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Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

Quantum Finger posted:

hang on, i just want to be hated by pundits

like maybe it's bad that people die in the streets and we don't have healthcare for all??????

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Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة
full socialism now

Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة
NAILED IT

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




but seriously people dont want iran to get nukes so the plan is to give some to trump

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Skwirl posted:

I think Virginia is at least in the "leans blue" category by now, PA was never really up for grabs when it came to presidential politics either.

Pennsylvania is the kind of place where if it goes R on election night, you might as well call the race for the Republican and head home. Since you're looking at like a 19709 wave situation.

Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

Nintendo Kid posted:

Pennsylvania is the kind of place where if it goes R on election night, you might as well call the race for the Republican and head home. Since you're looking at like a 19709 wave situation.

actually

comma

u mean 1980

Wikipedia.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Nintendo Kid posted:

Pennsylvania is the kind of place where if it goes R on election night, you might as well call the race for the Republican and head home. Since you're looking at like a 19709 wave situation.

Can I borrow your time machine, because I really want to know that the future is like 17694 years from now.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Quantum Finger posted:

actually

comma

u mean 1980

Wikipedia.

My phone apparently auto corrects 1980s to 19709

Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

Nintendo Kid posted:

My phone apparently auto corrects 1980s to 19709

apparently

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Quantum Finger posted:

hang on, i just want to be hated by pundits

just vote for Bernie

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

Skwirl posted:

Can I borrow your time machine, because I really want to know that the future is like 17694 years from now.

It sucks

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Skwirl posted:

Can I borrow your time machine, because I really want to know that the future is like 17694 years from now.

Bernie is still prez.

Pontius Pilate
Jul 25, 2006

Crucify, Whale, Crucify

Mr Hootington posted:

I have pictures from the event! I was going to upload them yesterday, but looking at them made me depressed and angry again, so I just waited an extra day. I picked out what I think were the best. I also included each candidates segment as a link in their name. I put them in order so you can see the deteriorating Frank.

Marco Rubio- Everything started so well for Frank Luntz. :(


Luntz was wearing tennis shoes with his suit? He deserves all of it then.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

Pontius Pilate posted:

Luntz was wearing tennis shoes with his suit? He deserves all of it then.

Luntz is a huge goony schlub with yellow teeth. Tennis shoes with a suit is totally in character

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos

spacemang_spliff posted:

Bernie is still prez.

Star Citizen to come out next year

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Oh man I just saw Hamilton Nolan's writeup of the Family Leadership Summit.

quote:

While most candidates use coded dog whistles to signal their racism and xenophobia, Trump just blares it all out. He’s swallowed the dog whistle. Now everything he says is a full-throated bark. It’s all rather entertaining, as long as we all agree he’s never going to actually be elected. He behaves like a dotty retired truck driver trying out for a role as the mob boss in a community theater production of “Analyze This!” No one would give him an Oscar, but it does break up the tedium.
...
No one was on the receiving end of more bad questions than Ben Carson, the neurosurgeon-turned-wingnut darling who has the misfortune of being the only black candidate, and therefore becomes the garbage can into which the Republican party vomits all of its racial confusion. Frank Luntz, after pointing out the lack of “people of color” in the conservative movement, asked Carson, “Why are you here?” After a brief, embarrassing pause, he added, “And I mean that in the deepest spiritual way.”

When Carson made a remark about “black people,” Luntz interjected. “I’m someone who cares about language. Why did you use the word ‘black,’ rather than ‘African-American?’” Though Carson’s politics are as atrocious as everyone else’s, it was hard not to feel a little bad for a man with the highest level of intellect among all the candidates being treated like the new kid in school who just moved to Iowa from South Central L.A.
...
Ted Cruz, who looks like a crooked mortician in cowboy boots, voiced the opinion that the Supreme Court’s decision on gay marriage “will awaken the body of Christ and lift us up to say: we will take our country back for our values.” I don’t know what awakening the body of Christ entails exactly, but it sounds terrifying for non-Christians. (Cruz went on to criticize Iran for being “theocratic.”)
...
The candidates can be slotted into rough and sometimes overlapping groups. Marco Rubio and Rick Perry are the blowdried TV-anchor lookalikes. Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee are the ultra-religious warriors. Cruz, Bobby Jindal, and, improbably, Rick Santorum are the cowboy boot wearers. Scott Walker is the aw-shucks kid, the Paul Ryan of 2016. Perry, Trump, and Jindal are the morons. (Indeed, Jindal’s entire campaign strategy seems to be to offer the least informed slice of the electorate exactly what it wants to hear, regardless of plausibility. In the space of ten minutes he called for abolishing the Supreme Court and putting unnamed government bureaucrats in prison. “The EPA has no right to regulate the water in your back yard!” he thundered, dubiously.)
...
Frank Luntz, displaying a killer instinct for showmanship, asked Graham a question about his dead parents, which made him start crying. He staunchly refused to participate in the anti-government rhetoric which the crowd craved, making him even less likely to win applause. “We’re all one car wreck away from needing government help,” he sniffled. Debbie Downer in the flesh. Later he began an answer with, “Let me tell you about Lindsey Graham, Africa, AIDS, and helpin’ people,” an unlikely start to anything thrilling. Of all of the candidates he would be the safest to vote for. He would spend most of his time in the Oval Office with the curtains drawn, weeping into a Lime-a-Rita.

funtax
Feb 28, 2001
Forum Veteran

Joementum posted:

In fact, O'Malley's appearance has already been clipped by a GOP PAC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKfYq24eWGg

Oh, Martin :allears:

He gave a speech today at a convention in San Diego run by ESRI. According to my wife, he talked at length about his deep and abiding love of maps. She was disappointed that he didn't bring his guitar.

Four Score
Feb 27, 2014

by zen death robot
Lipstick Apathy

Good Citizen posted:

Luntz is a huge goony schlub with yellow teeth. Tennis shoes with a suit is totally in character

Seriously, if you've seen pictures of his house, you wouldn't bat an eye at those bright red sneakers

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

I'm beginning to think a Walker presidency would be one of the scariest of them all

Frankly a Walker presidency would be even more horrifying than a Trump presidency.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

quote:

Frank Luntz, displaying a killer instinct for showmanship, asked Graham a question about his dead parents, which made him start crying.

:stare:

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

quote:

Frank Luntz, displaying a serial killer's instinct for showmanship

Or at least that's how I read it the first time.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


That’s unfortunate, because it obscures the degree to which Donald Trump is completely incoherent. He is clearly just thinking on his feet, poorly. His stab at appeasing the Christian crowd was to say, “I drink my little wine, and I eat my little cracker, and I do that as often as possible—because I feel cleansed, okay?”

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe
Mr. Hootington you're the best FYI.

Mr Hootington posted:

I have pictures from the event! I was going to upload them yesterday, but looking at them made me depressed and angry again, so I just waited an extra day. I picked out what I think were the best. I also included each candidates segment as a link in their name. I put them in order so you can see the deteriorating Frank Luntz.



Every time I see Rick I can't help but be reminded of Aidan Gillen:



e: Carcetti is a better example.

Mo_Steel fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Jul 21, 2015

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Four Score posted:

Seriously, if you've seen pictures of his house, you wouldn't bat an eye at those bright red sneakers

A quick google search shows him wearing those same sneakers with the red bottoms alot. He probably has hosed up feet, as much as I loathe Luntz I won't demonize him for having bad arches.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

GoutPatrol posted:

A quick google search shows him wearing those same sneakers with the red bottoms alot. He probably has hosed up feet, as much as I loathe Luntz I won't demonize him for having bad arches.

Working in public politics like this can mean walking/standing for hours at a time every day for months on end. A lot of politicians/public figures wear comfort/support shoes like this, he just chose flashier ones.

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Mo_Steel posted:

Mr. Hootington you're the best FYI.


Every time I see Rick I can't help but be reminded of Aidan Gillen:



e: Carcetti is a better example.

Why did you post a pic of Martin O'Malley

RACHET
Dec 29, 2014

by exmarx

Mo_Steel posted:

Mr. Hootington you're the best FYI.


Every time I see Rick I can't help but be reminded of Aidan Gillen:



e: Carcetti is a better example.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mo_Steel posted:

Mr. Hootington you're the best FYI.


Every time I see Rick I can't help but be reminded of Aidan Gillen:



e: Carcetti is a better example.

he's a big guy

MrWillsauce
Mar 19, 2015

oswald ownenstein posted:

Hopefully voter ID laws will help solve some of this democrat advantage problem so we can have some common sense in the white house for a few more precious years until we return to the darkness
Did you just say you're glad that the system effectively disenfranchises people you disagree with? Or do you think that the Democratic advantage is due to voter fraud?

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

MrWillsauce posted:

Did you just say you're glad that the system effectively disenfranchises people you disagree with? Or do you think that the Democratic advantage is due to voter fraud?

spoiler: he's going to find out whatever will get more of a reaction out of you, then pick that one.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Cigar Aficionado posted:

But in this case, it looks like Trump is taking votes from Clinton, which makes no sense.

The average American is a dipshit, and half of Americans are dumber than that.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Cigar Aficionado posted:

But in this case, it looks like Trump is taking votes from Clinton, which makes no sense.

I've mentioned this before, but I know at least one person that's "Sanders or, barring that, Trump!".

See: Voters who dislike insincere politicians with carefully crafted messages, voters who dislike the establishment, voters who dislike "dynasties", voters who dislike waffling in response to public opinion polls. Many of these people will choke down their dislike and vote for Hillary if the only alternative is voting for a Bush, but given an out, a third option that is none of those things, they will seize it.

Trump has convinced people he:
Believes the things he says wholeheartedly, doesn't apologize, doesn't back down.
Is not a career politician or even a politician at all, nor does he come from a family of politicians.
Does no one's bidding but his own,
Etc. and so on.

Additionally, he supports national healthcare and stuff, while also talking about how bad illegals/Mexicans are (and plenty of Democrats hate illegals/Mexicans).

It's not surprising in the slightest, there's lot of reasons for someone to switch from Hillary to Trump.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

big business man
Sep 30, 2012


Please, god, someone pay attention to me

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth
Saw him up into manageable pieces, run the pieces through the wood chipper, and then burn what comes out imo

Axolotl
Jan 23, 2002
Whatever

What the hell does "Detroit Republican" mean?

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


Axolotl posted:

What the hell does "Detroit Republican" mean?

Nth Doctor posted:

Bloomfield Hills Republican

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


Kasich has quite enough people showing up today, and doesn't need you.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

GlyphGryph posted:

I've mentioned this before, but I know at least one person that's "Sanders or, barring that, Trump!".

See: Voters who dislike insincere politicians with carefully crafted messages, voters who dislike the establishment, voters who dislike "dynasties", voters who dislike waffling in response to public opinion polls.

You forgot a pretty major group. Voters who dislike women.

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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
National Review feels the Bern... of the concentration camp ovens! :derp:

quote:

In the Bernieverse, there’s a whole lot of nationalism mixed up in the socialism. He is, in fact, leading a national-socialist movement, which is a queasy and uncomfortable thing to write about a man who is the son of Jewish immigrants from Poland and whose family was murdered in the Holocaust. But there is no other way to characterize his views and his politics. The incessant reliance on xenophobic (and largely untrue) tropes holding that the current economic woes of the United States are the result of scheming foreigners, especially the wicked Chinese, “stealing our jobs” and victimizing his class allies is nothing more than an updated version of Kaiser Wilhelm II’s “yellow peril” rhetoric, and though the kaiser had a more poetical imagination — he said he had a vision of the Buddha riding a dragon across Europe, laying waste to all — Bernie’s take is substantially similar. He describes the normalization of trade relations with China as “catastrophic” — Sanders and Jesse Helms both voted against the Clinton-backed China-trade legislation — and heaps scorn on every other trade-liberalization pact. That economic interactions with foreigners are inherently hurtful and exploitative is central to his view of how the world works.

"You know who else spoke to huge crowds...." ~ National Review, unironically. Of course they would know.

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