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I'm blind, what did you fix? Btw Froome just said he's put on weight during the Tour.
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Sure.goatface posted:Good corner. Hit the wrong Sky man though.
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Xir posted:Sure. He's right
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Jul 20, 2015 17:12
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Call me old fashioned but I prefer when riders attack the GC leader when they are suffering a mechanical or difficulty.
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Xir posted:Sure. I am glad to see you are taking everything said in this thread in the 100% serious tone that it is intended.
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Im pretty sure a motorbike wouldn't have got down that descent quicker than Sagan.  I hope he had one of the cameras on his bike.
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Jul 20, 2015 17:47
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serious gaylord posted:
Ask and ye shall receive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHgeNu5Gq-c
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He does 5 to 4 through some serious corners in about 50 seconds. Pretty good.
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serious gaylord posted:I hope he had one of the cameras on his bike. Russian Bear posted:Ask and ye shall receive: I thought it meant a camera on his actual bike and was all "loving hell he has time to zoom in while descending.... Oh."
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Jul 20, 2015 21:52
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Russian Bear posted:Ask and ye shall receive: Nice video This is still my favorite Sagan moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtpQ_7Bj_YM Insane descending, starts at 2:45
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Jul 20, 2015 22:19
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Sagan is insane.
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African AIDS cum posted:Insane descending, starts at 2:45
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Oh oops misread. Still pretty sick. Here is a lovely, blurry old video of Cadel Evans dive bombing a motobike in a corner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yISN7pgfCtY Russian Bear fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Gotta have a concussion after that header/neck whip into the pole for Thomas right? Scary crash, glad dude is ok.
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sagan might go down hill fast but hes still a fuckhead who gets sack ridden way to hard and still cant win anything (races in america dont count). oh, well, unless you count green jerseys since they decided it was boring and changed the point setup so all sagan has to do is get over some hills occasionally and hoover up 25 points at a pop and stroll in to paris with a 100 point lead. Froome/sagan yellow/green combos is about what cycling deserves atm.
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Box Hill Strangler posted:sagan might go down hill fast but hes still a fuckhead who gets sack ridden way to hard and still cant win anything (races in america dont count). oh, well, unless you count green jerseys since they decided it was boring and changed the point setup so all sagan has to do is get over some hills occasionally and hoover up 25 points at a pop and stroll in to paris with a 100 point lead. Uh he won the tour of california this year man it was pretty impressive
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Box Hill Strangler posted:sagan might go down hill fast but hes still a fuckhead who gets sack ridden way to hard and still cant win anything (races in america dont count). oh, well, unless you count green jerseys since they decided it was boring and changed the point setup so all sagan has to do is get over some hills occasionally and hoover up 25 points at a pop and stroll in to paris with a 100 point lead. Ehhh I enjoyed the hell out of his Tour of California performance. Absolutely entertaining, exciting race down to the end, not sure what else you're hoping for out of a cycling event. Unless you just have an irrational hatred for Sagan, in which case I could see you hating this year's Tour of California.
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Box Hill Strangler posted:sagan might go down hill fast but hes still a fuckhead who gets sack ridden way to hard and still cant win anything (races in america dont count). oh, well, unless you count green jerseys since they decided it was boring and changed the point setup so all sagan has to do is get over some hills occasionally and hoover up 25 points at a pop and stroll in to paris with a 100 point lead. Actually Sagan is the best 
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http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-07-20/team-skys-thomas-crashes-into-telegraph-pole-at-tour-de-france/ e: and his interview after http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/video-geraint-thomas-jokes-hes-chris-froome-after-stage-16-crash-into-telegraph-pole
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Skarsnik posted:http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-07-20/team-skys-thomas-crashes-into-telegraph-pole-at-tour-de-france/ His wife to be managed to find his glasses!
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Jul 21, 2015 12:35
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So sky has release a very limited dataset on froome which encompasses his average cadence, average power and his heart rate average and max (158 and 170). It's done exactly what everyone thought it would which is make the situation worse as they've released a very limited dataset despite claiming to be the most transparent team (you can get pinots full power, V02, weight etc) and to add more fuel to the rie L'equipe have immediately revealed sky have arbitrarily subtracted 6% off his power numbers.  If thats the case then instead of 389 watts and 5.76 watts/kg he's actually putting out 414 watts and thats 6.14w/kg
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It's not exactly a stunning reveal - Sky openly said they had deducted that % in the press conference. The Stages website says they think an osymetric ring will lead to a 4-5% overstatement of power, so it doesn't seem unreasonable that it could be slightly higher for pro riders: http://support.stagescycling.com/support/solutions/articles/1000158537-can-i-use-the-stages-power-meter-with-oval-or-osymetric-chain-rings- That said, if they were going to be open they should have revealed everything, what they've done just looks more dodgy.
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Yeah the 6% isn't arbitrary, it's a well known thing about the Osymetric rings.
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I like how they think they'll dig their way out of their grave.
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The numbers are dirty, it's raw data or gtfo. Couldn''t someone who cares enough take the climb time and W/KG of those releasing their entire data on Strava and use it to validate what Sky are claiming.
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Pocket posted:The numbers are dirty, it's raw data or gtfo. Couldn''t someone who cares enough take the climb time and W/KG of those releasing their entire data on Strava and use it to validate what Sky are claiming. Kwiatkowski averaged like 430w on one of the mountains when he was in a breakaway a few days ago.
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Different power meters from the same brand are going to report different readings so good luck comparing Stages with SRM, Garmin, etc... No one is going to be happy about any sort of release, yet somehow Sky make their data release sketchy and opaque.
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sagan is merely a 25 year old fuckhead who is probably faster than your favorite rider
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I want to watch Sagan ride a wheelie up the Alp d'Huez
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Jul 21, 2015 17:00
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^this but also across the finish line in first place.
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Pimp Cauldron posted:sagan is merely a 25 year old fuckhead who is probably faster than your favorite rider I don't know why people bother supporting Sagan, Kwiatkowski is the real 25yr old hero.
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Pocket posted:I don't know why people bother supporting Sagan, Kwiatkowski is the real 25yr old hero. Though I just saw this: spotted new fsa drivetrain on kwiatkowskis bike Not sure he's going to win a thing now.
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Don't know if this got posted already or not since it's a week old now, but some amazing photography and summary from week 1. http://stories.strava.com/triumph-turmoil
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Pocket posted:Though I just saw this: spotted new fsa drivetrain on kwiatkowskis bike Most stitches when it breaks on him during a sprint.
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Pocket posted:I don't know why people bother supporting Sagan, Kwiatkowski is the real 25yr old hero. Kwiatko is twice as far back in GC compared to Sagan 
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Tinkov has had a lovely swipe at ASO and Prudhomme http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tour-de-france-tinkov-wants-to-start-a-cycling-revolution/
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:So sky has release a very limited dataset on froome which encompasses his average cadence, average power and his heart rate average and max (158 and 170). It's done exactly what everyone thought it would which is make the situation worse as they've released a very limited dataset despite claiming to be the most transparent team (you can get pinots full power, V02, weight etc) and to add more fuel to the rie L'equipe have immediately revealed sky have arbitrarily subtracted 6% off his power numbers. There's about 12 riders who regularly put all their data on Strava to browse through and I already know some riders who were slower have done the "same" numbers Sky are claiming from Froome. The Q-Rings things is true, but Stages also tends to read low compared to more accurate power meters like SRM. Sky's standing on openness / numbers are just simply bullshit
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kimbo305 posted:Kwiatko is twice as far back in GC compared to Sagan He's going to Sky so I need a new favourite rider that can win things because the Yates brothers are leaving me hanging, they are still the chillest dudes about it seems.
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