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Michaellaneous posted:Wow you sure got 'em shots fired good job. ? That wasn't sarcasm, I love the .abc system.
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Well, someone got on, at least  It's nice seeing a grumpy new face whining about the tedious, arbitrary progression quest system. ((which can mostly be circumvented with frackin' universe, now. wooo.  ))Edit: 4 goons were on at once  It was nice! Thank you for the music, BirdBard.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:26
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Freakbox posted:Well, someone got on, at least You can circumvent the quest system now? How?
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Jul 21, 2015 20:03
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Well, I/the server have/has a mod called Frackin' Universe; most of the things the main mission gives you are suits to protect you fom heat, cold, radiation, space, etc...Frackin' Universe allows you to craft technological armor and field generators that make any quest after the mining facility completely un-needed for completion, freeing you from three quarters of the stupid progression-blocking quests. With Creative Mode, another mod, you can actually produce an "FTL Repair Unit", as well, but I don't mind doing up to the erchius facility and then stopping. Last night we got one player's FTL drive fixed without the quest having to be completed at all; we just went to one of the FU biomes, a crystal moon, dug up the crystals, and gave them to him after he accepted the quest. The quest completed and he was good to go! http://community.playstarbound.com/resources/frackinuniverse.2920/ http://community.playstarbound.com/resources/creative-mode-complete-control-over-your-experience.614/ With these two easy to install mods you can ignore the entire bullshitty system chucklefish set up unless you want a huge ship or something, and I think you can upgrade to at least the second ship without doing any main quests. That's really all the space you need outside of building something. PS Edit: http://community.playstarbound.com/resources/fully-customizable-ship.39/ and with that, if you really wanted, you could just build you own ship out of wood and coconuts or something. Freakbox fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 00:03
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 Why are all of the NPCs on my ship naked 
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Jul 22, 2015 02:14
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someone needs to do some mod managment
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Jul 22, 2015 03:13
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In today's Starbound news, crops now need water to grow, and flat out won't grow without them. About every stage's worth of growth water must be reapplied, in addition to the normal time required for the plant to grow. The only things that can water plants are rain and a watering can that looks hard to aim (he fucks it up repeatedly in the demonstration .gif). In addition, the process can't be automated in any way whatsoever, and trying to run water over your plants to speed up the process breaks your crops returning only seeds, regardless of growth state. Please understand that this game is turning into a loving parody of itself
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Jul 22, 2015 04:17
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Cicadas! posted:In today's Starbound news, crops now need water to grow, and flat out won't grow without them. About every stage's worth of growth water must be reapplied, in addition to the normal time required for the plant to grow. The only things that can water plants are rain and a watering can that looks hard to aim (he fucks it up repeatedly in the demonstration .gif). In addition, the process can't be automated in any way whatsoever, and trying to run water over your plants to speed up the process breaks your crops returning only seeds, regardless of growth state. So, literally Harvest Moon
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Jul 22, 2015 04:22
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THE FUTURE: We can work out FTL travel but a loving sprinkler eludes us.
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Jul 22, 2015 04:23
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..... what but..how can they just keep making it worse 
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Jul 22, 2015 04:23
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If you wanted to make a bunch of money forever, would you try to make a game like Terraria or like Minecraft?
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Starbound is the I Wanna Be the Guy of sandbox gamesquote:Rain water and the watering pale are the ONLY way to water soil. The water gun does not work, nor does letting water run over it work. This means you cannot use turrets with water guns in them to automate the process :urgh:. Another unique change I have found is that water flow now breaks crops. This means running knee deep water over crops breaks them. The bad news is that it does not harvest the crop, it only returns the seed to you. All of this together has a few consequences...
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Jul 22, 2015 04:53
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Cicadas! posted:Please understand 
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Excelzior posted:..... This reminded me of the classic This American Life episode "Fiasco!" which tells the story of a local stage production of Peter Pan that started off on solid enough ground but through a series of mishaps kept going increasingly and hilariously worse until the whole thing fell apart and bombed in a spectacular fashion. The takeaway was that after the first series of fuckups the audience hit a turning point where they were fully over any interest in watching a serious play and would've been super let down if it'd gotten back on course and finished up in a normal competent way. So basically the layering of one comedically bad idea over the last has become 10000% more entertaining than starbound could ever hope to be itself and if they actually did something to improve it I might start to get disappointed flesh dance fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 05:27
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lol
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Jul 22, 2015 05:28
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We all know they'll add sprinkers and/or irrigation behind asinine progress gates
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Jul 22, 2015 05:29
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i think this would be less stupid overall if the actual base game was worth a poo poo yet 'yeah the players can't dig any fun out of the core gameplay but at least the farming system is now more loving tedious than anything minecraft has ever implemented'
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Jul 22, 2015 05:32
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i'm being serious here, farming in minecraft is less tedious than it is in starbound now. i've played minecraft with a million mods before and farming was never that stupid
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Jul 22, 2015 05:33
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It's like...we make jokes about how bad this is, and the next day Chucklefish goes and makes it worse. 
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Jul 22, 2015 05:37
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what are their forums like im not sure if the devs genuinely believe that all the *hardcore* dumb poo poo is good design or if they just listen to a forum filled with screaming autists who demand everything to be bad and boring i went to their forums when the game first released and there sure was a lot of people like that
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Jul 22, 2015 06:08
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I come back to this thread out of curiosity of what's new and I just feel like  (about the development, not the thread)Agent Kool-Aid posted:i'm being serious here, farming in minecraft is less tedious than it is in starbound now. i've played minecraft with a million mods before and farming was never that stupid You mean to say that farming has somehow gone untouched by gregtech?! 
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Jul 22, 2015 07:01
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Cicadas! posted:In today's Starbound news, crops now need water to grow, and flat out won't grow without them. About every stage's worth of growth water must be reapplied, in addition to the normal time required for the plant to grow. The only things that can water plants are rain and a watering can that looks hard to aim (he fucks it up repeatedly in the demonstration .gif). In addition, the process can't be automated in any way whatsoever, and trying to run water over your plants to speed up the process breaks your crops returning only seeds, regardless of growth state.
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Jul 22, 2015 07:11
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Bel Monte posted:You mean to say that farming has somehow gone untouched by gregtech?! it probably was but it's very easy to just not use gregtech, something which many people put into practice. in starbound's case the base game just kicks the player in the ribs for wanting to do some basic poo poo for no reason whatsoever.
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Jul 22, 2015 07:13
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you'd think they could have gone with some sane poo poo like 'hey the growing speed was slightly lowered but if you keep up with watering your plants they will grow faster on average than they used to' but hey nah let's completely ignore a million of solutions that were implemented in other, actually complete and successful games in favor of something that is truly, literally, more tedious than basically anything that has ever been modded into minecraft.
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this might honestly be the breaking point for whether or not I believe this game can improve I'm fuckin' flabbergasted lmao holy poo poo how do you even come to the conclusion that this is even a remotely good idea e: the only upside I can see to this method is if they make it so that your plants can grow off-screen now. Did they already do that? It's not enough of an upside to make up for it, but it's a feature I'd like to see anyway and this looks like it's the best time to add it in. Babe Magnet fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 07:59
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Cicadas! posted:In today's Starbound news, crops now need water to grow, and flat out won't grow without them. About every stage's worth of growth water must be reapplied, in addition to the normal time required for the plant to grow. The only things that can water plants are rain and a watering can that looks hard to aim (he fucks it up repeatedly in the demonstration .gif). In addition, the process can't be automated in any way whatsoever, and trying to run water over your plants to speed up the process breaks your crops returning only seeds, regardless of growth state. Why would you do this
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It's been made clear several times on many different places around the internet (their subreddit, here, their own forums) that tedium and monotony and linear progression and gated mechanics are the game's biggest faults, so the only reason I could see this kind of mechanic being introduced is if they're straight up not listening to negative feedback or they're doing this out of spite (or indignation)
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Jul 22, 2015 08:07
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either they're petty children or just literally idiots
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Jul 22, 2015 08:21
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It's kind of amazing to consider that Starbound was better while it was abandoned.
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at this point the only hope starbound has is that some group of dedicated (and also mentally ill) people will say "gently caress it", pick some release of the game and start modding it to hell and back while completely ignoring every patch and update released by the retards at chucklefish this won't happen
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Jul 22, 2015 08:43
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I don't understand how they could have ever thought this was the right direction to take things, it is literally worse in every way and adds nothing at ALL of worth to the game. I am in awe.
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RottenK posted:at this point the only hope starbound has is that some group of dedicated (and also mentally ill) people will say "gently caress it", pick some release of the game and start modding it to hell and back while completely ignoring every patch and update released by the retards at chucklefish I'm pretty sure I already saw a mod that took all the worst changes they made in the latest update and reverted them all. It might have been a part of a larger mod or modpack though, I don't remember a name.
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QUACKTASTIC posted:THE FUTURE: We can work out FTL travel but a loving sprinkler eludes us.  "Hey what do you guys want to see in the next patch?" "Well, if you could maybe change the stilted progression a bit, or fix the numerous--""Make farming more difficult? Sure!""But food buffs still aren't even worthwhile, let alone transparent to the user.""Right, so we'll make sure they can't be automated. Good plan!"
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Cicadas! posted:In today's Starbound news, crops now need water to grow, and flat out won't grow without them. About every stage's worth of growth water must be reapplied, in addition to the normal time required for the plant to grow. The only things that can water plants are rain and a watering can that looks hard to aim (he fucks it up repeatedly in the demonstration .gif). In addition, the process can't be automated in any way whatsoever, and trying to run water over your plants to speed up the process breaks your crops returning only seeds, regardless of growth state. I, what. why  I'm assuming this is because you can theoretically sell crops for pixels?... Or was that not a thing yet... That is probably not a thing yet and the only, infinitesimally, trace attempt at a Dev logic reason for this is in preparation to make you "work" for your farming progression because oh poo poo, you can just let plants grow while out trying to doing things unrelated to grinding progress! Excelzior posted:..... Why am I stupid enough to keep thinking they can't 
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Jul 22, 2015 11:08
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Vib Rib posted:
Food buffs are very transparent to the user, I dunno how much more obvious you can get than "enables you to jump so high that you'll die from unpreventable fall damage"
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Jul 22, 2015 11:14
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Hmm yes this is also where I'd direct my coder resources
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Jul 22, 2015 11:16
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I already hadn't touched the game in months and they do something like this? It's just...there are no words.
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Asimo posted:It's kind of amazing to consider that Starbound was better while it was abandoned. I just realized that each Starbound patch improves Cubeworld a little bit. At this rate an abandoned early access game will surpass Starbound by virtue of not becoming worse over time!
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superstepa posted:I'm pretty sure I already saw a mod that took all the worst changes they made in the latest update and reverted them all. It might have been a part of a larger mod or modpack though, I don't remember a name. can you please find that mod and tell me if there's any morons whining about it in the comments
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