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Started replaying this game again thanks to this LP and I've liked how all the soldiers in Beatrix's unit are either dismissive or indifferent towards Steiner except for one, who turns out to be the lone rookie on the team. I also like how you can access the hotel balcony overlooking the square with the ticket booth and the girls playing jump rope. Nothing up there, just a nice view.
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Keldulas posted:This whole beginning part is really charming in several ways. It's a nice read, and yet we see just enough to know that something is very wrong. It's great. Yeah, there's a certain undercurrent to Dali that I found really intriguing. Between all the kids, the ghost chocobo, the creepy innkeeper and the passive aggressive mayor it seems like there's something else hiding behind the peaceful idyll
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Jul 21, 2015 07:17
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The adults only come out at night? Weird technology that doesent belong to such a small backwater village? People who submit get gold and those who resist get left behind? Locals are either keeping secrets from you or are rightout rude? Did we secretly enter Innsmouth? 
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Jul 21, 2015 07:20
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Also since I just got through the Evil Forest, they're called Prison Cages not Soul Cages.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:23
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Fister Roboto posted:I really appreciate you showing off all of this game's little nooks and crannies, because holy poo poo this game has a lot of little nooks and crannies. This. I love hearing all the sound effects in my head too and all the extremely great animations getting giffed. Square did great with ff7 and conveying emotion with those little Legos but it's like a whole new generation in this game. I love it.
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Fedule posted:And this isn't some generic town theme either - this is the theme of Dali and nowhere else. i think every location in this game has unique music, there's no standard dungeon theme ogr town theme.
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Jul 21, 2015 11:18
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Winklebottom posted:Someone made a nice little 3D render of Dali.
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Jul 21, 2015 15:28
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zfleeman posted:Whoa, this is incredible. Why does it exist?! It's a nice thing to have on a resume for a 3D modelling position.
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Jul 21, 2015 15:34
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How does Steiner reconcile the idea that he should be returning the Princess to the castle when she herself obviously doesn't want to go back?
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Jul 21, 2015 17:43
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Pureauthor posted:How does Steiner reconcile the idea that he should be returning the Princess to the castle when she herself obviously doesn't want to go back? It's for her own good and she doesn't understand how much danger she's in, pretty much
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Jul 21, 2015 17:47
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Pureauthor posted:How does Steiner reconcile the idea that he should be returning the Princess to the castle when she herself obviously doesn't want to go back? "She's just a naive girl, she's fallen for that thief's charms, she doesn't know what she wants or what's best for her" That kinda thing
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Jul 21, 2015 17:47
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Pureauthor posted:How does Steiner reconcile the idea that he should be returning the Princess to the castle when she herself obviously doesn't want to go back? While he respects the princess he thinks in terms of absolutes in his duty and is sure she will eventually see his plan of action is the correct one. He has trouble understanding how she does not see it as her duty to return.
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Jul 21, 2015 17:52
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It probably doesn't help that Garnet never bothers to explain to Steiner what her reasons for leaving are at this time. When they hit the Ice Cavern's she's like "Seeing this place is so much more interesting than reading about it," so far all he knows she just wants to see the world outside the castle.
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I do. I remember Doctor Tot.
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Jul 21, 2015 20:35
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It took until I emulated the game before I could fully appreciate Dr. Tot.
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Acne Rain posted:This is dagger, back together. In the German translation, she did. The translators somehow went "No-one could be that stupid. She doesn't know what a dagger is? gently caress that." So the simple dagger changed to something called a "Liliendolch". And this makes her rename herself to "Lily". Every time I replay the game, I just rename her to one of the many, many forms the name Lily can take and get on with it. ("Dolch" is German for dagger and a "Liliendolch" is apparently some sort of medieval special dagger. They look like this.) Dr. Tot is renamed to Toto in the German version, since "Tot" would be like naming a character "Dr. Dead". Alas, I personally think that would have been the better choice, but for the German translators it was deemed too inappropriate.
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I think the point is supposed to be that she's sheltered, not stupid.
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Bad Seafood posted:I think the point is supposed to be that she's sheltered, not stupid. No-one living in some sort of medieval castle and surrounded by guards can not know what a dagger is. That's not sheltered anymore, that's more on the level of being mentally retarded So I'm kind of glad they changed this, because even as a kid back when I was playing the game for the first time, I wouldn't have eaten that bullshit.
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Libluini posted:In the German translation, she did. The translators somehow went "No-one could be that stupid. She doesn't know what a dagger is? gently caress that." So the simple dagger changed to something called a "Liliendolch". And this makes her rename herself to "Lily". Ehhh, I never failed to read it as "what is this type of blade called?" anyway. Which isn't a dumb question from someone who isn't a weapon nerd but is aware there are more categories than sword and knife.
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Sometimes I wonder if she wan't just asking if there was a name for that specific kind of dagger but then Zidane has to go off on a tangent and alright, alright, she doesn't really care that much. Plus, who knows what the player keeps equipped. "My name shall be Masher." I've also a feeling her mother likely stressed other types of learning over warfare and military matters.
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Her Japanese nickname was just (the katakana rendition of) Dagger as well. I suppose using the English word would have been more characteristic and less generic than whatever the Japanese word for dagger is? Then writing the scene as it is makes sense. Skip forward, the translator to English figures that Dagger would still make a pretty good-sounding nickname that would also fit the space constraints and basically work throughout the entire game, but using it makes this one scene near the beginning a bit awkward. He or she makes the logical trade.  ^^^And yeah, this. She didn't know it was just called a "dagger" and that there wasn't a super detailed nomenclature before she asked, after all.
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Aithon posted:Her Japanese nickname was just (the katakana rendition of) Dagger as well. I suppose using the English word would have been more characteristic and less generic than whatever the Japanese word for dagger is? Then writing the scene as it is makes sense. The German localisation seems like the right way to go. e: Stiletto, Stabby, Misericordia, so many missed opportunities. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 21:39
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Princess Garnet "Stabby" til Alexandros.
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Name her Shank or Shiv.
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Gonna go back and rename her Buster.
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Mega64 posted:Gonna go back and rename her Buster. Please do this.
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Mega64 posted:Gonna go back and rename her Buster. If she'd asked Squall that question I'm not sure which of the two possible answers would be funnier.
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Mega64 posted:Gonna go back and rename her Buster. 
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Pureauthor posted:How does Steiner reconcile the idea that he should be returning the Princess to the castle when she herself obviously doesn't want to go back?
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    But the Kings were hiding something in their mansion...  Oh, no. Your story is very interesting. You're right. He is late. I'm not worried about Steiner, but Vivi, I'm not so sure about. We've now got Dagger in our party, though it doesn't really factor into anything for now.  Last time I saw Vivi, he was standing over there.Best place to look for clues, right?    It's coming from the hole...FADE INTO WINDMILL SOUNDS   Vivi! Where are you? Are you underground? Can you move? They told me to stay here... Are you hurt? No. Don't worry, we'll get you out. We'll hurry, so stay where you are, okay? ...Okay.I like that Zidane's already developed a bond with Vivi this early on and is ready to do whatever he needs to to rescue him. It's part of Zidane's nature as well to help those in need, besides maybe knuckleheads like Steiner.  There's gotta be a way into the underground somewhere. Let's look for one. Okay! Gotta love the first small village we come to having some sort of dark secret.  Our destination is the windmill right next to us.  We also receive our first Stellazzio.  The Stellazzio Story is another sidequest where we collect twelve various stellazzios hidden all over the world, named of course after the Zodiac. The story is about eleven dudes trying to impress a hot chick, so this stuff is right up Zidane's alley. Arieth is the first one we can get, so we get it first.  It says Mayor's Key here.I think this door isn't accessible until a small section of the game where you really have to go out of your way to get here because this is Final Fantasy IX.  Likewise for this treasure chest.  This takes us back to dickhead Mayor's house.  Why did you stop, Zidane? I'm the mayor of this village. Who are you? I'm busy. Please leave. (Let's go.) (Okay.)  Anyway, let's go exploring. CAVE AMBIENCE  There's quite a few treasures as usual, though no random encounters.      Is it true that the mayor's brother found it? I guess they reconciled. His brother's one of us now. ...Wasn't he on the old lady's side before? Oh, about abandoning the farm? He probably only said that because he was fighting with the mayor. Who cares? We need more workers anyway. Hey, let's put this in a box.  Gotcha.      Did you see the large barrel next to the shed? I've seen the exact same pattern on some of the barrels at the castle. This place must have some kind of connection with Alexandria Castle. So please...I beg of you, don't cause any trouble just yet. ...Alright. Agreed? Sure. Alright, let's go. They went further inside.So time to do more exploring. Lots of flavor text to go through.  It is kind of weird, now that I think about it.   All sorts of weird things going on here.   Don't get excited, it's only a Potion.  This room has an Iron Helm and a free Leather Wrist if we missed out earlier.   What is it? Someone's crying...  Zidane!? It IS you! I'll get you out! How could they...? U-Um...  After you left, some men kidnapped me and brought me here. They told me to stay put. I was so scared... I didn't know what to do. They asked me, "Why were you outside?" and then they said, "The cargo ship isn't even here yet." And they put you in that box? ...Yeah. Well, I'm glad you're safe. You should try- screaming back or whatever. Screaming...? Yeah, like... Like that! It surprises your attacker and empowers you! Huh... I see. We want to check out what's ahead. I know you might not be thrilled with the idea, but... Look... What is that thing?  Vivi's joined, so now we can get him started on learning a passive I'll probably never use.  Is this machine...making eggs? This isn't a Mist engine, but there's Mist coming out of it... No... This... This is Mist! This door's kind of a trap, in that once you open it you'll get random encounters for the rest of this section.  But for LP purposes I want to show off the enemies here anyway so why not.  This is a Ghost.  They're pretty annoying what with their magic attacks.   Osmose is particularly annoying to get hit with, especially if Vivi's the target.  Though they do have an interesting death animation.   Looks like it's sending Mist to the machine outside... What are those eggs made of...? There's a Pinion here so good enough reason to open it. Moving on.  The chocobo is powering the conveyor belt... Why don't they just use a machine to do it...? It looks kinda like the Mist engine on the theater ship. ...but I can't see anything. I just hear some noise. Are the eggs...hatching?Are you even talking to anyone, Zidane?  These fellows are Vices.   These jerks are wannabe Zidanes.  I get one back from winning so no biggie. Anyway, the next room...well...    Some parts are different, but... Wh-What is this...? Are they...dolls?Vivi is a nine-year old kid who just discovered a ton of creatures that look a lot like him are being manufactured in secret. He's visibly shaking and freaking out upon witnessing this. Poor kid's been with the party for two days and goes to a small village to relax and look at windmills and ends up developing an existential crisis.  (Someone's coming!) Dagger, too, is pretty freaked out about something her own nation is likely responsible for.  Zidane's freaked out too, but he'd rather just get the gently caress out of there and ask questions later.      Okay. Never mind. It's almost time. Hurry it up, will ya? I hear ya!   Looks like the party's getting into some serious poo poo now, what with finding out about a potential black mage army being manufactured in secret and being caught in the middle of this, not to mention the emotional trauma this is bringing to Dagger and especially Vivi. gently caress THAT poo poo LET'S FOLLOW STEINER SOME MORE    I must escort a person of high rank to the castle! When will the cargo ship arrive? Hmm... Looks good.     Come to think of it, isn't Tantalus a popular theater troupe of Lindblum? They don't look like anything but common criminals. How about a cup? Tell me when the cargo ship will arrive, or else the Alexandrian royal family will appropriate this property! And then what? I order you to tell me when the cargo ship will arrive!  I am just trying to do what is right! Anyone can tell right from wrong. Ha ha ha... Still as green as a pickle. It's already here. They should be loading it now.   Next time, we'll find out what happened to Zidane and the others. Steiner will also probably say something stupid. Mega64 fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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Jul 23, 2015 00:41
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As a reminder, Steiner is 33 years old. 
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Add Status is actually not too shabby to put on Vivi for a time. He gets a weapon that inflicts Slow with a much higher success rate than the spell. Granted, buffing and debuffing isn't the greatest in this game, but it's still a viable option.
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Steiner is the best character.
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:Add Status is actually not too shabby to put on Vivi for a time. He gets a weapon that inflicts Slow with a much higher success rate than the spell. Granted, buffing and debuffing isn't the greatest in this game, but it's still a viable option. The weapon you're thinking of has a flat 20% chance to inflict slow, while the spell itself has 60% base accuracy, increased by magic and level. Nice try though. Also Dagger can completely destroy those ghosts with her cure spell. Healing spells ignore magic defense, even when used offensively, so it does around 250 damage when MTd. It's one of the few times she's good for something other than healing in the early game.
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Mega64 posted:Arieth  I hope this was intentional.
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Fister Roboto posted:The weapon you're thinking of has a flat 20% chance to inflict slow, while the spell itself has 60% base accuracy, increased by magic and level. Nice try though. Eh. Must have gotten lucky this playthrough then. I ran out of MP because I was VERY determined to get a notorious steal and it saved my rear end.
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Only times I've really used add status in this game was for cheesing one bonus fight (technically not even using add status itself, but another ability by Zidane), and the REAL best character in the games 2nd weapon is pretty useful to use add status with just to shorten encounters randomly (Needle Fork).
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The use of add status is mandatory in the dumbest way possible at level 1. It'll be a loving treat.
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Isn't that because insta killing via stone only causes the enemy to yield AP? I remember using Soft on stoney enemies not awarding XP later on in the game. I could be wrong though.
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Bad Seafood posted:Steiner is the best character. Clank clank clank clank. Clank. Clank clank.
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