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Allowing deck changes between rounds should be funny. I'd expect the top tables to be homogenized by 4 rounds or so. Lannister+something looks solid to me for now, their cards are all really good in a format where you can't bank on drawing particular fiddly combos.
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I've been thinking about grabbing an LCG for my birthday, to play with friends and whatnot. I saw that the game of thrones one was getting a new release soon, so I'm probably not gonna buy it right now. The two that interested me the most were the Lord of the Rings one and Netrunner. Which one would you recommend for someone who basically plays no board games? My friends and I play Dominion sporadically, and we've played Ticket to Ride like... once, but that's it. The cooperative concept in the LOTR game is really appealing to me personally, and it has less stuff than Netrunner so it'd be easier to catch up if I end up liking it that much, right?
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KoldPT posted:I've been thinking about grabbing an LCG for my birthday, to play with friends and whatnot. I saw that the game of thrones one was getting a new release soon, so I'm probably not gonna buy it right now. LOTR is best for newbies. It's cooperative, so even if you just get a core, you're not really losing any sort of "competitive edge" (although the scenarios will likely be way harder than they would otherwise be). The expansions are likewise less essential as a result. Netrunner is probably the gameriest of the LCGs, despite having kinda lovely competitive support (i.e., slow FAQs and [unofficial] rulings buried under tweets, etc.).
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Jul 22, 2015 23:00
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Lotr is the safest investment since the "meta" can never die
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Is anyone else reading the Kingslayer Tournament rules as allowed 50 card decks?FFG posted:Kingslayer Deckbuilding Rules If so, I assume you should play 50 cards no matter what faction combo you're rolling with in order to maximize your odds of drawing your unique power houses
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Azran posted:Ah, I see. I didn't knew how you'd get 56 different factions combinations considering there were only 7 factions. The important part to note is that you only get to choose 1 Agenda. The Agendas that let you ally are handy, should become less and less common as the game ages. There were so many deck defining Agendas in 1st Edition, I find it hard to believe that it wouldn't be the case again. Also, I'd much rather use 
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I think we'll also see new agendas that play with deck building restrictions in interesting ways, like that new Orc Warlord for Conquest. Maybe something similar to the old Knights of the Realm Agenda, but it lets you play non-loyal Knight Characters from any faction. I'm sure we'll see something with Maesters at some point, too.
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So with the restriction of if a named character dies you can't play that named character again, does GoT have less use for 3-of in deck building? Or are the good cards less the named guys and more the generic guys you can have three of in play at once?
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MisterShine posted:So with the restriction of if a named character dies you can't play that named character again, does GoT have less use for 3-of in deck building? You can use dupes to give a sort of extra life to uniques which helps mitigate the dead-guy issue.
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But that requires it in hand I would assume?
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Jul 23, 2015 11:28
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MisterShine posted:But that requires it in hand I would assume? You play it as a sort of "armour" for that character. Any dupe uniques you draw after a character enters the dead pile is wasted though.
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Alright. I'll see how viable core X1 is I think. This looks like my netrunner replacement
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KoldPT posted:I've been thinking about grabbing an LCG for my birthday, to play with friends and whatnot. I saw that the game of thrones one was getting a new release soon, so I'm probably not gonna buy it right now. Lord of the Rings. Any of the competitive LCGs require at least 2 players to get equally invested or it won't be any fun for one of them. LotR also has the advantage that you don't need to jump in hard. A single or pair of core sets will give you plenty of challenge for a while, particularly if you only play sporadically.
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From what I hear, 1x uniques was the predominant strategy in AGOT1e. I don't know the exact reason for it besides eliminating dead draws from characters in the dead pile, but I'm sure the existence of Valar Morghulis was a factor as well. Here's hoping they don't reprint that as it was, since it sounded like it was super degenerate. Edit: Does anyone have a good IG deck for Conquest? I feel like experimenting. GrandpaPants fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Lots of amazing spoilers for the next saga box! https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/7/23/trapped-in-the-land-of-shadow/ Another hero Faramir! Trap decks?!?!
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GrandpaPants posted:From what I hear, 1x uniques was the predominant strategy in AGOT1e. I don't know the exact reason for it besides eliminating dead draws from characters in the dead pile, but I'm sure the existence of Valar Morghulis was a factor as well. Here's hoping they don't reprint that as it was, since it sounded like it was super degenerate. Mostly it was because most unique characters weren't really worth playing, especially with how easy it was to kill them. Given that it's not in the Core, I don't think we're seeing Valar Morghulis again, though we'll still have to deal with Wildfire Assault.
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GrandpaPants posted:From what I hear, 1x uniques was the predominant strategy in AGOT1e. I don't know the exact reason for it besides eliminating dead draws from characters in the dead pile, but I'm sure the existence of Valar Morghulis was a factor as well. Here's hoping they don't reprint that as it was, since it sounded like it was super degenerate. Mook swarm Coteaz is a lot of fun. Lots and lots of very potent 2 cost or less cards to sacrifice and ambush in with the IG support, access to ammo depot and you could even do sick Elysian Assault Team recursion with The Emperor Protects. Also one of the decks where the 3 cost draw-on-death Acolyte is potentially useful (the latest FAQ sounds like you can even have that one leave play, trigger the card draw, then Emperor Protects it back to your hand). Really depends on where you want your draw to come from.
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ChiTownEddie posted:Lots of amazing spoilers for the next saga box! I want so bad for a Gondorian Ranger deck to be viable, I hope this box does the trick. Cardboard of the rings spoiled a card for the third pack of this cycle the other day: https://www.facebook.com/CardboardOfTheRings/photos/p.972151196139006/972151196139006/?type=1&permPage=1 That art! Magali! 
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If Magali did every card in the game from now on, it would be better for it. poo poo is amazing.
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Kingslayer Tournament thoughts: Baratheon: Don't look particularly standout, also we don't know how many R'hollor cards they'll have as they're the faction we have the fewest spoilers for. They don't have much in the way of heavy hitter or buffing. Just Robert assuming you have a bunch of kneeling opponents. I guess you'd want to play the 2nd so you have maximum kneeling opponents. Maybe pair with Targs since they also want to go second? Greyjoy: Seem legit. Aeron is probably a beast in a format with no dupes. A ton of stealth seems pretty useful as well. They really want to go first though, so no Targs. Maybe Lannister or Tyrell? Lannister: Great all around faction. Plenty of solid bodies, great economy, Martell: They're playing this longer control game, and I think the'll probably suffer from not having multiple copies of the cards that make that strategy work (Doran's Game). The Red Viper is a Beast, but without him, it seems kind of lack luster in this format. Night's Watch: Jon is crazy strong. The Old bear may be a little harder to get value out of in a singleton format. With Castle Black and Old Bear they probably also want to go second which could pair with Baratheon or Targs, I guess. Stark: We actually have all of their cards spoiled. Ice is on of the few reusable kill cards in the core set, and you also have Greywind. They have a little bit of card cost reduction though it's all focused on in faction cards. Very martial challenge oriented. Probably want to be going first. Targaryen: Dany is really strong. Drogo also seems like he's packing a really powerful ability, and with Dracarys and Plaza of Punishment clearing out the chaff, you could be killing real characters pretty quickly. Solid faction. Tyrell: Best buffing in the game. Solid attacking in Randyll Tarley and Loros. If Olenna gets in once that's a pretty solid pay off if you can drop a 4-5 cost card. In a singleton format, The Bear and the Maiden fair actually seem pretty good if you can put 2 or so strong characters on the bottom of their deck. EDIT: Kind of thinking about Starks and Tyrells. The Starks have a lot of reusable kill, the Tyrells cover their intrigue shortcomings and can buff them enough to win the martial challenge. I 'm thinking you just try to hit them hard early in martial and winnow down their characters before closing out in the mid game. Karnegal fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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Is martell grey joy the dumbest plan possible? Cause I really want to
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MisterShine posted:Is martell grey joy the dumbest plan possible? It seems like bad synergy to me because Greyjoy want to go first and be aggressive and Martell seem to want to play the long game. Greyjoy ware trying to capitalize on turns 1-4 while Martell are more interested in 4-6.
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From what I was looking at a lot of the Martel buffs seem based on the turn itself rather than "you've been on the field x turns". So theoretically you could start greyjoying and finish off Martel But I haven't got that firm a grasp on the rules yet, they're just my favourite two houses. Plus I love jank
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I'm not able to play in the GenCon tournament(s) due to working at the show, but I'm planning on buying 3x core sets, and if anyone tries to tell me that my inevitable "Wardens of the North" Stark/Night's Watch deck is going to be bad, I'm going to stick my fingers in my ears and yell really loud. And then probably lose games.
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In the game of thrones you win or you jank
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tomdidiot posted:W:I was a good game, though it had broken poo poo. It's the most Magicky of all the LCGs. Conquest I'd love to get into, but it seems to snowball horrifically. Conquest doesn't really snowball very much in games between two advanced players, barring god hand vs. awful hand scenarios (and even many of these are recoverable with the right planet layout). However, it's easy for newcomers to make mistakes that amplify this tendency. I consider it a similar (though less severe) version of the Doomtown turn 1 shootout problem - something that can be awkward in early games but basically goes away once you get more experienced. In fact, just yesterday I won a game where I lost four out of five command struggles on two out of three turns. The way that committing your warlord works fundamentally allows for strong comebacks as part of the core mechanics.
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The venomthrope polluter synapse creature was spoiled http://thetacticalsquad.com/2015/07/26/the-great-devourer-spoiler-venomthrope-polluter/ FFG has pretty good spoiler control it seems, since neither Game of Thrones or tyranids are fully spoiled yet.
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GrandpaPants posted:The venomthrope polluter synapse creature was spoiled http://thetacticalsquad.com/2015/07/26/the-great-devourer-spoiler-venomthrope-polluter/ Venomthrope Polluter seems very interesting and tactical. It has an icon of its own and lets you move a unit before command struggles are complete, so it should be possible to snipe command struggles with this guy. I could see this working well with Old One Eye, since you could send Old One Eye to bully a planet, then move another unit at that planet to the Venomthrope's location to snipe command/set up for later. It also seems really good with the Swarmlord's signature unit, since you could pull that unit to a planet after it comes in from HQ exhausted, and its ability would still function to buff any Termagants you might have there.
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GrandpaPants posted:The venomthrope polluter synapse creature was spoiled http://thetacticalsquad.com/2015/07/26/the-great-devourer-spoiler-venomthrope-polluter/ Give it 4 days.
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Carteret posted:Give it 4 days. Well it's out once GenCon starts, so that's not really a spoiler control issue
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Not tyranids: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/7/27/against-the-ravening-horde/ Edit: Subdual is pretty harsh control. Repair Bay seems like it's going to put a Drone/Pilot back on top of the deck? GrandpaPants fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Wife and I have started playing LOTR. We've only got the core set. Just got through Journey Along The Anduin with two decks built from the core set (with some help from Beorn's page). Despite some rather unfortunate draws, we survived. Very first encounter deck draw in setup revealed the Marsh Adder and Goblin Sniper. Goblin Sniper stayed in the staging area for way more turns than I'd like to admit, popping one damage per turn on our heroes. Fortunately, I drew a Forest Snare riiiiight as we broke 30 threat and would have had to engage Hill Troll. 4 turns later, the other Hill Troll showed up (and I drew my second snare too, phew!) Some ups and downs throughout, but pretty solid progress. At about threat level 36, we're about to complete quest 2. We've got a bunch of allies on the table, and the heroes are a little beat up but holding on. Then juuuuuust as we were about to complete the 2nd quest card and move on to the third quest, we drew all three copies of Evil Storm. We had the ability to cancel one of them, but had to place 2 damage on every character on the board. It wiped 11 allies and 3 heroes   Then we had 3 heroes and 2 surviving allies between the two of us during the ambush phase. Ended up surviving due to a lucky Gandalf + Sneak Attack play, but wow it was close. Very exciting game. Would recommend 
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Subdual seems somewhat unappealing to me at first glance. For that price I want the target dead (or maybe at the bottom of their deck). Sure, sometimes it chokes them, but it doesn't sufficiently counter cards like Khymera Den - just delays them for a turn. Maybe delay is all you need though? Hard to say.
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GrandpaPants posted:Second AGOT pack announced, although drat they really like to hide those Greyjoy cards. Wardens of the West seems loving brutal though, goddamn. I'm sure The Reader will be a reprint essentially. He's a great card, but not broken like Meera was, and he will be huge for Greyjoy.
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MisterShine posted:Probably a much smaller playtester pool than Netrunner as well AGoT 2nd edition has the largest playtest group ever done by FFG per Nate French, so it can't be the playtest group being small.
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Rusty Kettle posted:Pro: Those kinds of agendas lead to thematic decks and reward deck building within a faction. It 'punishes' banner decks as they won't have an additional ability. Buying multiple cores is something that's a given for competitive players. If you are a wanting to play in competitive way, or if you want to play consistently performing decks then you will want to buy 3x core sets. If you're casual and just want a 'board game experience' with some friends or casual gamers, then you should be happy with this situation as well. As a competitive player you'll be happy that they have maximized the number of unique cards so that the card pool at the start of the game is as large as possible. The alternatively could have made a HUGE box with 3x all the cards and 6x or 9x certain neutral cards, but of course the cost would be 3x the core set. But that would hurt the casual player, or someone who might be curious and 'just wants to try it' before getting in all the way. As a casual player you'll be happy that they have maximized the number of factions in the core set to give you the largest possible taste/flavor of gameplay from just one box. Taran_Wanderer posted:Mostly it was because most unique characters weren't really worth playing, especially with how easy it was to kill them. Given that it's not in the Core, I don't think we're seeing Valar Morghulis again, though we'll still have to deal with Wildfire Assault. I'd be shocked if one of the box sets upcoming don't include Valar. It would be crazy overpowered in this early game situation, but as the game gets more and more robust with more characters and ways to recur, cheat death etc, valar will be an important mechanic. It isn't degenerate, or at least it wasn't. It's a way of increasing the value of the intrigue challenge. With the reserve value artificially keeping hand sizes smaller though, I'm not sure what that does to the balance of the various challenges. With no valar and the reserve limit on plots, it seems like Mil challenges are much stronger than they used to be. tijag fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jul 30, 2015 |
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Is anyone else stoked for Vs coming back?
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