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Gin_Rummy posted:Is there currently a way to kill my sons? I remember there being an option to pay and see if an assassin could do it, but that doesn't seem to be present. On top of that, the "plot to kill" option doesn't seem to want to let me pick my own sons for this. I'm kind of at a loss, because I need to lose one of these little bastards before my giant viking empire crumbles.
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Gin_Rummy posted:Well, unfortunately and once again due to my lack of knowledge on playing as a pagan... I got an interesting event chain to let one of them try and be a Varanginian, which seemed pretty cool. I had no idea this would mean he would leave my court forever and join the Byzantine Empire... now I have him primed to inherit quite a bit of my land, but I'm assuming it would be under Byzantine control. It is clear to me that he is the son that needs to die, but I just don't know how to do it. Whoa whoa whoa, don't kill him, if he inherits he comes back, varangians get good stats, you don't risk everything going to the Byzantines.
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TaurusTorus posted:Whoa whoa whoa, don't kill him, if he inherits he comes back, varangians get good stats, you don't risk everything going to the Byzantines. Is that the case? I ended up getting another event chain that said he found a Greek wife and wants to stay there and now his liege is the Byzantine Emperor. I have no option to invite him back to my court or anything which made me think it was a permanent deal.
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Jul 23, 2015 01:20
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TaurusTorus posted:Whoa whoa whoa, don't kill him, if he inherits he comes back, varangians get good stats, you don't risk everything going to the Byzantines. Yeah, your son's being off being a professional badass, not a sworn vassal. E: ^^^ Or not. Yeah, no idea. ^^^
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Gin_Rummy posted:Is that the case? I ended up getting another event chain that said he found a Greek wife and wants to stay there and now his liege is the Byzantine Emperor. I have no option to invite him back to my court or anything which made me think it was a permanent deal. As long as your son doesn't get given land by the emperor or whatever then it should still be fine.
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Jul 23, 2015 01:28
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The After the End horde should obviously be Cascadian barbarians from the deepest forests of the Pacific Northwest.
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Jul 23, 2015 02:38
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Turkestan horde game update: Military tech maxed out in January of 1175. Good news: The tech notification has been updated to appear after a particular track is filled, if you have enough to fill another box in all other tracks. Bad news: After an entire category is maxed out, the tech notification stays on permanently.
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 This is the government type layout in the latest Github version of After the End. Nomads are Ghost Dance following Canadian Indians and Revelationist Grangelanders. There's also a new "bureaucracy" government type, which the Californian kingdoms use. It's kind of like Imperial Administration, with free revocations of duchies (prefectures) and vassal rearrangements.
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verbal enema posted:Just noticed the button to forbid yourself to lead armies. Where is this button?
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Gin_Rummy posted:Is that the case? I ended up getting another event chain that said he found a Greek wife and wants to stay there and now his liege is the Byzantine Emperor. I have no option to invite him back to my court or anything which made me think it was a permanent deal. Okay, I don't know about that, maybe murder him.
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alcaras posted:Where is this button? Right above your character portrait. Tiny little sword and shield button.
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mythomanic posted:
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mornhaven posted:I've definitely noticed a greater number of prisoners being taken since Horse Lords. Also a lot more deaths due to diseases, but that might just be bad luck. Yeah. I just had a typhus epidemic followed in less than a decade by a consumption epidemic. Was not good for my trade post limit. Speaking of which, what is the best way to make more males? I am a few hundred years in and only at 51 trade posts.
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Jul 23, 2015 03:34
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You get kinslayer from imprisoning and executing your spare sons, yes, but you don't get kinslayer for imprisoning and throwing them in the hole. A 0 year old doesn't stand a good chance down there, I've learned from experience. Also gently caress gavelkind.
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Jul 23, 2015 03:45
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I feel like there should be a Designated Gavelkind that grants bonus opinion to family granted titles upon death but makes Vassals mad. You'd get to designate people to inherit titles upon your death thus kind of reducing the scatter fuckery that Gavel kind can be. Maybe need to hold an empire title or something. This kind of government has had to exist.
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Jul 23, 2015 03:54
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Is there a mod anywhere that removes the title name changes by culture? I remember it didn't used to be that way so I'm guessing it's still possible
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Jul 23, 2015 03:56
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Koramei posted:Is there a mod anywhere that removes the title name changes by culture? I remember it didn't used to be that way so I'm guessing it's still possible Yeah, there's at least two on the workshop. Something like "no dynastic realm names". If they don't work, it'd be really easy to mod yourself.
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Jul 23, 2015 04:16
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Tehan posted:Isn't there a way to check available CBs in the ledger? Scan that for a de jure war with a baron. I thought there was something like this too but I just checked the ledger and didn't find anything. Maybe it was taken out at some point? Either way I have been up and down India and don't see anything missing. I'm wondering if maybe the new "region" system that decisions like that are using now is not recognizing the territory properly? *edit* wait, I finally found the drat thing. It was a green emblem on the green background of my empire's colour  . Diplomatic map mode should have a special colour for counties that you control but only partially. It would make it way easier to spot that kind of thing.
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Jul 23, 2015 04:44
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mythomanic posted:
 guess it falls upon me to modmod my atomicist warboys Soup du Journey fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Jul 23, 2015 04:53
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Just noticed the DONT PUT MODS HERE txt in the ck2 directory. Hell yeah After the End can be played now 
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Jul 23, 2015 05:17
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Holy hell. I guess sending your kids out as mercenaries scales the size of their band by your own population/manpower. I don't think my son's going to get hired.
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Jul 23, 2015 06:16
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you should hire him and count the amount of annoying "your son recruited some more men" events you get
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958 ad and my Uyghur Khagan has converted to zoroastrianism, conquered the arabian peninsula, egypt and anything east of the caspian sea, made the byzantines a tributary, restored the high priesthood, married his sister, vassalized the Immortals and now is in the process of turning India into grazing lands.
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Jul 23, 2015 07:10
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500 years, and still no wolf blood.  edit: Mongol empire still sticks around as a landless title if you defeat their initial invasion. Boo. Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Nomads are a hell of a drug, just ask Wallachia: Strudel Man posted:500 years, and still no wolf blood. 
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Odobenidae posted:If it makes you feel any better my very first HL game gave me a wolf blood child. The only thing was that it was my daughter rather than one of my dozen sons.
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Strudel Man posted:Ouch. Yeah, it's odd that there's no gender-checking in there, since a) it's only for players anyway, and b) there's no way I can figure that a woman can lead a horde. Possibly even with modding, given that it's an inheritance-law issue. No you should be able to mod it to allow female leaders as well. Either way the Wolf Blood will be fixed so it doesn't end before it starts.
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I took my first stab at modding, and yeah, it's really easy to allow nomads different gender laws. You can also allow women to form mercenary companies, which is neat. Modding is fun! I gave the Normans and Norse cultures mercenaries, as well as letting Norman and Berber cultures raid.
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Doctor Schnabel posted:
You sir are decisively incorrect, for after all, do the warboys not live to die historic and be witnessed, so that they may mcfeast in Valhalla? They are obviously Norse.  Er... actually, in fact, they're mentioned in the creation text for the Norse Holy Order.  (I know this because I made that holy order  )
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Strudel Man posted:Holy hell. I guess sending your kids out as mercenaries scales the size of their band by your own population/manpower. Hi, it's me again, last questions: How do you send out your kids as mercenaries/adventurers, I can't find the option? And regarding your previous post about having no feudal vassals, did you just hold on to all the baronies you got from invasions and repeatedly pillaged them until they were all destroyed? Don't you get big maluses from holding on to them? And what about cities and churches, you held on to them too to pillage?
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NewMars posted:You sir are decisively incorrect, for after all, do the warboys not live to die historic and be witnessed, so that they may mcfeast in Valhalla? They are obviously Norse. I was this close to making the Australian culture Mad Max style crazies but decided to make them relatively normal Aborigines.
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I want an Immortan title/nickname now
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Witness me!: Gain 100 prestige. 80% chance "YOURNAME" dies! On second thought...: Lose 100 prestige.
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Gin_Rummy posted:Well, unfortunately and once again due to my lack of knowledge on playing as a pagan... I got an interesting event chain to let one of them try and be a Varanginian, which seemed pretty cool. I had no idea this would mean he would leave my court forever and join the Byzantine Empire... now I have him primed to inherit quite a bit of my land, but I'm assuming it would be under Byzantine control. It is clear to me that he is the son that needs to die, but I just don't know how to do it. They come back, they don't leave forever. It's like they sign up to go be a mercenary in the great city to make a name for themselves. It nets your heirs prestige and gives them the cool Varagarian trait when they come home; however, be warned there is a chance they will come back converted to Orthodox, and a smaller chance they will get captured by someone, castrated and blinded in service of the empire.
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There's also a small chance they will marry a Greek woman matrilineally...mythomanic posted:
I imagine this is exactly how China will be implemented (someday...) On that front, I had an idea. Since administrative titles in China were by appointment and typically not hereditary, one way to add to the "dynastic" element of the game would be via the civil service exam. Low-level vassals might be to allow vassals to train their children or dynasty for the civil service exam, with appointment contingent on exam performance (as opposed to all appointments being hand-picked by a liege lord). That way, a smart or productive dynasty could still wiggle many of its members into high-ranking positions, solidifying political power in the realm. It's half-baked, but it's one way to make dynasties important in a decidedly non-feudal, non-hereditary realm. Aschlafly fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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They can also learn about "Greek Love"
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And get PTSD, although that seems rare, I've only ever gotten it once.
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Aschlafly posted:There's also a small chance they will marry a Greek woman matrilineally... Titles in China were handled in a different way. So if you were a Duke, your kid would be a count, and your grandkid would be a baron. Obviously the nobles fought against this when they were powerful, but it would require a whole other governmental system to model correctly, something where your kids can't inherit titles equal to your highest title, your highest title reverts back to the Emperor (who could then give it to your kid again if he wanted) but they could inherit your lower titles. Civil service exams would give you a higher chance of getting a high title, but they wouldn't necessarily trump, for example, dynasty prestige. Fall Sick and Die fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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That makes sense. I'd imagine culture should also play a big role on the exams themselves, since deep familiarity with classical Chinese literature and the Chinese language was required. It might also be nice to model the rise and fall of imperial power versus control by local warlords. Then again, maybe the entire game needs this (blobbing's too easy as is).
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