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Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


e: dammit that's not the right lyrics. uhhh nothing to see here

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Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

DOOP posted:

Create the most out-of-context caption for this image

"...my greatest work, the Life-Sized Ionasal Body Pillow! It'll sell millions."

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

Super Jay Mann posted:

"...my greatest work, the Life-Sized Ionasal Body Pillow! It'll sell millions."

The worst part is I can totally see Kanon making such a thing and there being a really awkward scene where Ion walks in on her making out with an Ion-shaped pillow.

Hopefully should have an update tomorrow, and maybe there'll be yet another good image for out of context captions. Which have all been great by the way.

InfinityComplex
Feb 5, 2011

Nothing better than swinging around a little girl like a flail.
"...something I'm not going to let her keep down."

Materant
Jul 22, 2010

see, what you don't understand is he now has

THE MANLIEST MUSTACHE

it defies physics


You know, Kanon looks like a totally different person without that ridiculous headdress.

RelentlessImp
Mar 15, 2011
Also because I can't leave a joke alone:

quote:

...a story all about how, my life got flipped turned upside down, and I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there, I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air.

In West Philadelphia, born and raised, on the playground is where I spent most of my days. Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin' all cool, all shootin' some B-ball outside of the school, when a couple of guys who were up to no good, started makin' trouble in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight and my mom got scared, she said 'You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'.

I begged and pleaded with her, day after day, but she packed my suitcase and sent me on my way. She gave me a kiss and then she gave me my ticket, I put my Walkman on and said 'I might as well kick it'.

First class, yo, this is bad, drinkin' orange juice out of a champagne glass. Is this what the people of Bel-Air livin' like? Hmmmm, this might be alright.

But wait, I hear they're prissy, bourgeois, all that, is this the type of place that they just sent this cool cat? I don't think so, I'll see when I get there, I hope they're prepared for the prince of Bel-Air.

well, the plane landed and when I came out, there was a dude who looked like a cop standin' there with my name out. I ain't tryin' to get arrested yet, I just got here, I sprang with the quickness like lightning, disappeared!

I whistled for a cab and when it came near, the licenses plate said 'Fresh' and it had dice in the mirror. If anything I could say that this cab was rare but I thought 'Nah forget it, yo holmes, to Bel Air!'

I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8, and I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo holmes, smell ya later', I looked at my kingdom, I was finally there, to sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel-Air.

mastersord
Feb 15, 2001

Gold Card Putty Fan Club
Member Since 2017!
Soiled Meat

DOOP posted:

Create the most out-of-context caption for this image
"This is.."

"..SPARTAAAA!!"

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
I kind of wish we'd had something like this to humanize Nelo. Kanon went from awful to really sympathetic and likeable as the game went on, but Nelo has remained mostly a piece of poo poo even if her desires are somewhat understandable.

Still, I highly suspect the only death by the end will be the completely irredeemable Zill. She seems the only 100% evil person here (plus maybe whoever is controlling Prim.)

Icedude
Mar 30, 2004

Mokinokaro posted:

I kind of wish we'd had something like this to humanize Nelo. Kanon went from awful to really sympathetic and likeable as the game went on, but Nelo has remained mostly a piece of poo poo even if her desires are somewhat understandable.

Still, I highly suspect the only death by the end will be the completely irredeemable Zill. She seems the only 100% evil person here (plus maybe whoever is controlling Prim.)

That's one of the things Plus' purification chats with her really help with. I didn't really care much for her before reading those, but she definitely is far more likeable when she gets to talk to you normally.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
Alright, it’s story time again. This is a pretty special one, because we pick up with Delta and Cass on their day off.

Video- The Date

Watch


That doesn’t really matter. What’s important is that we’re here together.
…Don’t we always go places together?
Huh?
N-No, this is different.
How is it different…?
Um…well, this is a date, for one…
What do you mean by that?
It’s just a formality!
What’s a formality?!
Shut up! Just be quiet and follow me!
But you haven’t decided where to go!
Yes I have! First…
…Yes?
Quanturv! Yes, that’s it!
Why?
What do you mean, why? We’ve…got a lot of memories there, right?
C’mon, let’s get going!

And so they headed to Quanturv.



But…we come here all the time.
It’s different! This is a date, so we have to look at everything from a different perspective!
Just look. This is where you saved me and Sarly, right? I thought we were done for.
Oh, right, back when we infiltrated the Church. I think you’d both just gotten out of the bath.
Yeah. You found us just in the nick of time. Although…I wonder if that was because of Interdimend…
It’s certainly possible. I’m not sure, though. I still don’t really know when it’s active…
Hm… The timing did seem a little TOO perfect, even back then.
Now that you mention it, I can’t remember why I decided to go check up on you.
For a minute I thought you’d been peeping on us.
Really?!
Doesn’t it seem like something you’d do?
What’s that supposed to mean!?
Ha ha ha ha! I’m glad now, though. I was really happy when you saved me.
What…? Where did that come from?
I just told you what I was thinking. I’ve decided that’s what I’m going to do today.
It’s a shame you’re not always this honest and upfront…
Did you say something?
N-No, nothing.

And further on to Sharanohiar.



It’s really peaceful.
It might be nice to live in a nice, quiet place like this.
What? You sound like an old man.
I could start a farm—open a Cook de Delta branch that serves home-grown veggies… What do you think?
Sounds alright, but you’d need to come up with a better menu and retake your first location.
Nah, Nay can keep it. Tattoria could help us out here, too.
…Don’t talk about Tattoria. All I can think about is turning into a Sharl after drinking that weird medicine.
Really? I thought you were pretty cute…
Seriously, stop it already…

Their trip up to the heights of the ship continued.



Most of my memories are back, but I still can’t remember Manjusara. Did it really look like this?
More or less. It’s a little different. Some of these buildings are from a world I’ve never seen.
But it feels warm and a little sad, just like the place where we grew up.
Huh… There were shop stalls like this there, too?
Mm-hm. A lot of the local shops were booths.
There were a lot of people in Manjusara that moved there from other places, like me.
But the town was already full of people, so most of the new arrivals had to use street booths.
Huh. Makes sense.
…You really helped me out then, you know. I mean it. I was all alone.
Huh…
Yeah. Although…I guess you’re still helping me out.
What?
Oh, look! It says they’re “Tenryosara’s specialty item: Chelnotron”!
It’s weird, but it’s cute too!
Delta, buy me one of these!
Heh, you’re hopeless…

They paused next by the Altar of Nohiar, and Delta considered his earlier actions.



…Where we fought Kanon.
In retrospect, we did something pretty awful here, huh?
We didn’t have a choice. Kanon really saw things…differently.
Maybe, but I was being stubborn too. We could have just talked it out.
It’s good that we realize that now. Once we beat the Maternal Overseer, we’ll have lots of time to talk.
You’re right. We need to stop her.
…Yeah.
Alright, let’s keep moving.
Hey, Delta…
Hm? What’s up?
I know you were being stubborn back then, when we fought Kanon, but…
You were also really admirable.

And then they stopped to admire the view from the Bezelieltron once more.



This is the place where you finally told me the truth…about Interdimend.
I’m sorry I hid it for so long.
Well, it’s not like you told anybody else, right?
No, although Sarly and Nay knew the whole time.
…I still can’t forgive them for that.
But I am really happy that you chose to tell me and only me.
I felt horrible about not being able to trust you.
That’s not your fault. I couldn’t even believe it, and it was me it was happening to.
I was surprised you’d noticed, though. Nobody else seemed to.
I just wish I’d figured it out sooner. I could have done so much more for you…
I could have helped you through the bad times and shared the good times…
…I’m sorry.
What are you apologizing for? We can still do those things.
But…if Interdimend starts again, then you’ll lose those feelings too.
If it controls you for too long, your body might be taken over completely by whoever’s on the other end.
Don’t you remember what Sarly told you?
We’ll defeat the Maternal Overseer and release Interdimend again before that happens.
Once we’re done fighting I won’t need Interdimend anymore. I just need to borrow a little power.
…Yeah, I know.
I’m not the only one suffering because of Interdimend either… Prim is too.
We need to save her.
…Yeah.

Forcing someone to work against their own interests and harm those they care about… Sorry, bad memories, that’s all. They reached the very top of the ship once again.



This place is connected to another world.
Well, the Ar noSurge Tube is… Although it doesn’t really seem like it.
I wonder what the other world is like…
I don’t know. It would be nice if it was as pretty as Sharanohiar.
…It could be pretty hellish.
…This world is going to be pretty hellish soon.
Thanks to the Maternal Overseer, the ship’s systems are failing. Sarly said it can’t support life much longer.
Ion’s reason for stopping Nelo, and Cosal and Kanon’s dream for a new planet…
I think I understand both of them now.
…Yeah.
I hope the clues for a new planet that Ion and Sarly found will really lead to something.
We should be fine if we have Interdimend.
I’m sure the person in the other world will help us find a new world.
I hope so.

…Hey, if you don’t start singing soon, don’t you think everyone will get worried?
…Huh?

Cass’s plans were not quite finished yet.



That’ll be tomorrow around noon!
Well, technically yes, but…
Hey!
Huh?
Um…
What’s wrong?
Can I ask you something…?
What is it?
…Um…well…
This might be the last time you’re yourself, so tonight I…I…
I want to…be with you…
…Huh?
Please…!

They retired to a more comfortable venue than the top of a giant tower.




…I-I’m really nervous.
This was your idea!
I-I know, but…Isn’t the guy usually supposed to ask or something?!
Are you trying ot blame this on me?!
Ugh, just be quiet! Guys who don’t understand how a lady feels are the worst!
Hey, if it was that easy, nobody would have any problems…
…Ugh.

Hey, uh, there’s something I wanted to ask you too. Is that okay?
Huh? What is it?
I want you to sing the song for Interdimend while I sleep.
Why…?
Someone’s going to be taking control of me… It’s…well, it’s kinda scary.
Delta…
Okay, I understand. I’ll do it.
…Thanks.

Some time passed.



…Yeah.

Even if I had details that would be kind of rude.



…I got really mad at you, and at Sarly and the others.
Why did you have to do it?
Why hadn’t anybody told me anything?
Why were you going to turn into somebody I didn’t know again?
…It didn’t seem fair, and it made me angry.
But after spending today with you, I feel like I’m ready to face it.
Tomorrow you’re going to turn into someone else.
But that means that right now you’re the real you, without a doubt.
And that’s given me courage.
Right now I feel like I can tell you the things I’d normally be too embarrassed to say.
I love you, Delta. From the bottom of my heart. I always have.

Ha… Well, it’s just like you to fall asleep for that.
Oh well. That’s okay. For now, just sleep.
You probably won’t get to be this peaceful for a while.
I hope that, at least until this song ends, you can feel happy and safe.

And so as he slept she sang the song.

SONG- CLASS::AR_NOSURGE#RE::Incarnation;

Watch


As he slept she pulled out the Avatar Core, because she had something to say.



The Avatar Core… No, I brought “you” here because I want to ask you something.
…Please, help us.
I know that to you, our world might just be an image on the other side of a screen.
But to us, it means everything.
Delta’s decided he’s going to use Interdimend again.
That means he’s trusting you with our world.
So I’m going to believe in you too.
But…please, save it as quickly as you can.
If you don’t…Delta won’t really be himself anymore.
And I need him to be him. Without Delta, I…I don’t know what I’d do.

What’s your world like?
Is it a peaceful place, without wars or fighting?
Do you have anybody who’s…important to you?
I don’t know what kind of person you are…
But when you were using Interdimend, you didn’t make Delta do anything bad.
So I don’t think you’re a bad person.
Please…I’m entrusting Delta, and our world, to you.
???: Thank you, and don’t worry./Don’t respond.
…!?
…Thank you. You really are a kind person.
…I’m glad.

They returned to Felion together to discuss their next move with Sarly and Nay.



Cass, I’m really sorry for not telling you about Interdimend.
That’s in the past now. Delta’s made his decision, so I’m going to stand by him.
That’s all that matters right now.
Cass…
I don’t want to talk about this anymore. Also, um…I’m sorry for making such a big deal out of it.
Thanks, Cass.
What are you going to do now?
Isn’t that obvious?
We’ll use the power of Interdimend to defeat the Maternal Overseer, and avenge the Prime Minister.
…Don’t underestimate what it can do. Interdimend won’t make you omnipotent.
I know, but I’ve got Cass. I’m not worried.
…Yeah!
I won’t try and stop you, but be careful. I won’t forgive you if you don’t come back.
Let’s go. The Placenta’s waiting.

Sarly had something helpful to give them before they left.



What’s up?
The water levels in the Flask Sea are rising… And the route to the Placenta is blocked off.
Oh, right… I see.
Isn’t there anything we can do?
Of course, I’ve got something that could help.
Really!? That’s amazing, Sarly!
I feel really bad about what I did to Cass… So I prepared it just in case.
Sarly…
Here you go.
What’s this?
It’s a device that hinders the liquid flask’s conductivity.
Are you serious?
Yes. It’s a prototype I made by breaking down the water.
But… Do you think this has some kind of weak spot?
Why’s that?
Because… IF you’re able to make something like this, why wouldn’t you give it to the Prime Minister?

I suspect the water rising must have caught them by surprise the first time, which is why she’d not done this sooner.



It’s like a pre-prototype, even. There’s no proof it works.
Whoa now…
And this is the important part… I can only guarantee that device will work one time.
It isn’t built to last. Exercise caution when using it.
Wait a second, one time? The Flask Sea is full of the fluid, right?
If we use the device when entering the Placenta, how are we supposed to get back?
If we can use it once, it’ll be more than enough. We’ll activate it on our way out.
But, why…?
There are other routes to get there, right?
Other routes…?
The Sharl Road.
Ah!
Earthes and Ion fell down that shaft… Which means we should be able to go to the Placenta from there.
Delta’s right, there is a way to get there.
Thanks a ton, Sarly. I think we can count on your handiwork to take us home.
But still, be careful. Take good care of yourselves… and that device.
In that case, I should carry it.
Alright, I guess that does it… Heading for the Sharl Road!

They headed up to the Sharl Road.



Yes, the gravity manipulator appears to be working, so… I think so.
It’s a little weird, jumping from here… Even though I know it’s going to be okay…
Y-Yeah…
Well, guess there’s no point thinking about it. Let’s go.
W-Wait! C-Can you go down… w-with me?
Okay, okay. Hang tight, alright? Here we go!

When they landed, someone unexpected was already there.

Video- A Problem

Watch


Oh, hello… What are you doing here?
We’re here to defeat HER and take back the Prime Minister.
And not JUST the Prime Minister either. We’re going to save everyone who’s been taken.
I see… You might as well give up, then. You’re too late.
What…?
I came here for Undou too. He was one of the few people who treated me kindly.
When I was all alone, he would come and spend time with me.
He opposed the creation of the Maternal Overseer, and ultimately decided to leave for Felion.
But I always liked him.
And now I’m sad he’s gone.
You do realize he’s gone because of the Maternal Overseer YOU helped create!?
…Such spirit. You seem different than before. I wonder…did you figure out how to coexist?
That’s not what we’re here to talk about! Now, return all the people you took!
That’s impossible. They can’t come back, and I can’t do anything to bring them back.
The Maternal Overseer was created to fuse souls. Once they’ve merged, that’s it. They’re gone.
No… All of them…?

Though as usual, Nelo didn’t really want a fight.



But I really need her. I’m sorry.
It isn’t like I don’t like this world, but I want to go back to my own. I need to go back.
My soft futon and that familiar ceiling; the hallway lit by the early morning light; those warm meals…
…Please, just let me go home.
Nelo…
I don’t know what sort of suffering you’ve endured here, and I know you have your reasons…
But I can’t forgive you for killing people just so you can get home.
I see… Still, you’re too late.
But the two of you can still escape.
Get as far away as you can, before you’re consumed by the Maternal Overseer.
There’s a woman named Ixit at the Singing Hill.
I broke her memories, so you will have to go into her heart and fix them.

In fact, she had some very helpful information for them.



The key to fix Ixit’s memories is “her name itself.”
Why are you telling us this…?
Didn’t I say? I like you. You were nice to me.
…It was fun to go to the surface with you. I really mean that.
I want you to have a good life, even after I’ve got back to my world.
There are still a lot of people on the ship, and a lot of Sharl on the surface.
Are you telling us to just run away and leave them behind?
There’s no way we can do that!
That’s okay. I don’t plan to let you get away anyway, Daddy.

Then things took a turn for the worse.



How annoying.
Hey, Nelo. What’s wrong with you? All you do is get in Prim’s way lately.
All that matters is that I get home. Cass and Delta don’t have anything to do with that.
Sure they do. If the Maternal Overseer absorbs them, we’ll have enough souls even sooner.
Besides, if we leave them alone, all they’ll do is get in our way, so it’s better to let her eat them.
Nelo! Behind you!
What…?

Which only escalated when the Maternal Overseer absorbed Nelo.



That takes care of her.
I thought you wanted to help her get home!
Oh, don’t worry! I didn’t kill her. Besides, as the Maternal Overeer’s eye, Nelo would have fused anyway.
Prim just wanted Nelo to be happy. This was the best way of doing that.
Get your head on straight!
Give us back the Prim we know!
I never thought you’d reconnect to Interdimend, after all the trouble you went to getting rid of it.
You’re pretty amazing, Daddy.
It must be some sort of fate that Prim was born from Daddy while connected to Interdimend!
You don’t like the fact I’m connected to two different channels, do you?
All of your actions are being leaked to Earthes and Ion right now.
You’re the one at a disadvantage here.
…That might be true, but Prim’s already won! It doesn’t really matter.
Now all I have to do is hide and wait.
Are you sure? The Maternal Overseer can’t get the 100,000 souls she needs now.
The Flask Sea doesn’t have many human souls left in it anymore.
Oh, that. It’s okay, we’ve already got a really good plan.

Okay, no, sorry. Any villainous plan that is worth calling ‘really good’ is worth gloating about.



You really think we’ll just let you escape?!
That’s not up to you, Daddy. It’s up to Zill and Undou…
Aaah!
Cass!
Prim! Where are you?!
Delta!
poo poo…
We need to get out of here. Come on.

Fortunately, Sarly’s machine worked.



That would be difficult. She might not have 100,000 souls, but she’s got tens of thousands.
I don’t know how long we’d last…
Anyway, we shouldn’t come back here until we’ve got a plan. It’s too dangerous.

Feinne’s Notes:
So I did this part before Ion’s for a reason, as you may have guessed from the last scene. If we’d actually tried to help Renall before this, we’d have run into a problem with a trap Nelo left that we couldn’t bypass. But now we know how, because she told us.

I think that’s good for tonight. We’ll pick up next time with Ion’s efforts to help Renall.

Next Time, Ar Nosurge: The Eye

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land





Well then

Is it me, or does Cass look really lecherous? Ion is the previous update too

InfinityComplex
Feb 5, 2011

Nothing better than swinging around a little girl like a flail.
Marginally less so than Ion honestly.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

DOOP posted:

Well then

Is it me, or does Cass look really lecherous? Ion is the previous update too

Honestly, "love each other since kids and might be dead tomorrow" is not a bad motivation for sealing the deal. I must say, I really liked the date scene, it was nice to see Cass and Delta in more normal situations.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Omobono posted:

Honestly, "love each other since kids and might be dead tomorrow" is not a bad motivation for sealing the deal. I must say, I really liked the date scene, it was nice to see Cass and Delta in more normal situations.

I get that and all

It's just with Delta half-conscious and Cass' grin, art direction!

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




I'm guessing this is the part where they make it obvious Nelo has nobody on her side to back her up cause it's all for Zill's plan and Zill needs her to become and remain omnipotent, etc. and that just doesn't gel with letting Nelo go back home.

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

Feinne posted:

Some time passed.

Yep, nothing to see here folks, move along.

Stop giving me funny looks.

Argas posted:

I'm guessing this is the part where they make it obvious Nelo has nobody on her side to back her up cause it's all for Zill's plan and Zill needs her to become and remain omnipotent, etc. and that just doesn't gel with letting Nelo go back home.

Nelo is not the sharpest tool in the shed. To be fair, based on the events of Ciel Nosurge Zill's desire to send Nelo back was probably genuine, though of course that went out the window when she becomes some weird semi-omnipotent higher-level being and this jerk controlling Prim started running the show.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
Yeah the problem is that with so little hope of ever getting home Nelo latched on to the first person who had an at all plausible plan. If you don't look at it too close or think about it too hard you could even convince yourself you're doing a good thing, because hey both me and the other person who got grabbed from their world will get to go home and the remaining people here all get to live on in some form instead of dying with their rotting colony ship. Then you look at the details and realize it's pretty unlikely that Nelo or Ion get to go home, even more unlikely they BOTH get to go home, that as things stand at the start of the game even if Ion DID get home she'd be a vegetable, and that the ship is largely hosed BECAUSE of Nelo and whoops you've got the skull uniforms on.

Also Prim not monologuing her plan proves a bit of an error, because not having to chase after her rear end is going to let us get some poo poo done she'd probably rather we didn't.

Next time will be mandatory Diving to help Renall, then after that we'll probably do her actual Dive and see some crazy poo poo go down. We can interestingly actually do Ion's second proper Dive after completing Renall's, in spite of the fact that Nay's is a bit off. Before we see that, though, maybe we'll see about taking Nelo's advice and trying to find that other world we were supposed to have gone to originally.

Feinne fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Jul 24, 2015

Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.
I like how Zill, whose charisma and intelligence was a major factor in letting the antagonists get this far, has been reduced to a complete nonentity in super robot cosplay. After Mir and Infel/Nenesha it's disappointing to have antagonists who are so... I dunno, "become God and space out devouring other sapient beings whilst rambling about THE BEAUTY" just seems far less interesting than "fulfil your lifelong dream of rescuing your people from suffering and poverty". Nelo's "I just wanna genocide home" is a bit more interesting but you'd figure at this point she'd be sick of the prices paid for her.
Also AT really likes apotheosis/instrumentality as a villain goal. ATII had it twice, ATIII had the reyvaroids - yes, losing your values and ethics in a blind struggle for power/survival is bad. Yes it's a foil to the protagonists succeeding through voluntary cooperation in contrast to your forced harmony. Two in harmony surpass one in perfection.

As a human Zill was competent and a threatening antagonist with a scary high level of knowledge about the ship and wave science, making herself a genome hybrid so she can sing without REON or a partner, making sharl and loving poo poo up. Now she floats about doing nothing unless provoked by a cut scene.
Zill turned into an almighty idiot. She's Giygas at this point.

Also do we just stop using CLASS::EXPAJA? I was under the impression we can at least give Zill some wicked heartburn.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




I figure it's just an easy and cheap way to turn a charismatic villain into a final boss. They've finally used all their wits and smoothtalking to acquire power to challenge you in combat. Only it's not the final boss as far as I can tell, and she's just...hanging there in the background.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
I 'think' CLASS::EXPAJA was specifically a counter for CLASS::EXSPHERE_NOSURGE rather than a way to actually separate souls that had already been eaten by the Overseer. We'll need some other option for messing with her.

I'm going to be honest the 'villain' of the game isn't really any of the antagonists specifically, it's that we're trapped on a dying colony ship that hasn't moved from where it started. The antagonists are just assholes who are contributing to that problem.

I also kind of think it's pretty funny that Zill succeeded in her plan of turning herself into a god and got a poo poo result that's left her drifting in and out of sentience.

Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.
The wiki at least claims that CLASS::EXPAJA creates virtual replicas of the barriers between individual souls ('qualia') and instills feelings of rebellion in the newly-partitioned consciousnesses. That's why I said "heartburn" - run properly, CLASS::EXPAJA should tear the Maternal Overseer apart from the inside and the more souls she's absorbed the more ammo he have. It recreates the mind-barriers that CLASS:EXSPHERE_NOSURGE forcibly removes.
Unfortunately the effect is too weak to make Zill asplode.

RelentlessImp
Mar 15, 2011
I gotta say I really like the Interdimend excuse. Most jRPGs wouldn't bother giving a reason for Delta to not know anything, which leads to some annoyance on the player's side. It kind of reminds me of how Tales of the Abyss handled Luke's lack of knowledge with sorta similar results. And then it leads to scenes like this and it becomes even better. From a writing standpoint, this is handled pretty much top class.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

Lunar Suite posted:

The wiki at least claims that CLASS::EXPAJA creates virtual replicas of the barriers between individual souls ('qualia') and instills feelings of rebellion in the newly-partitioned consciousnesses. That's why I said "heartburn" - run properly, CLASS::EXPAJA should tear the Maternal Overseer apart from the inside and the more souls she's absorbed the more ammo he have. It recreates the mind-barriers that CLASS:EXSPHERE_NOSURGE forcibly removes.
Unfortunately the effect is too weak to make Zill asplode.

I suspect it's an issue of power, we'd probably need to use CLASS::CIEL_NOSURGE and tap out the ship's power to actually get it started now that she's gotten spun up a bit.

Now we probably COULD use it to pull Nelo back out, that's much easier than anyone else because she's being kept separate so Zill can use her Oversight. But in practice doing so right now would be a bit tricky.

Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.

Feinne posted:

I suspect it's an issue of power, we'd probably need to use CLASS::CIEL_NOSURGE and tap out the ship's power to actually get it started now that she's gotten spun up a bit.

Now we probably COULD use it to pull Nelo back out, that's much easier than anyone else because she's being kept separate so Zill can use her Oversight. But in practice doing so right now would be a bit tricky.

Were their bodies absorbed, too, or is that priviledge reserved for important, named characters we need to get out again? Otherwise, man, that'll start to smell soon. ATII had a few people die during that whole "Infel Phira eats your soul" business, if I remember correctly.

I think Zill neglected the fact that her soul may attain a seven-dimensional composition, but her mind, her consciousness, her values and ideas were all four-dimensional, so she's, well, tripping balls.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
I'm not sure what our plans are tomorrow, I might be a bit busy for the length of update I'm planning. We'll be resolving the whole Renall situation and learning some really important poo poo so I'd rather potentially delay a day than cut the length. We'll be getting a lot of information on how things got as bad as they are, because Renall knows rather a lot about what's going on (which is why Nelo blew up her mind).

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
It’s story time again. I believe I promised last time we’d see how they fixed Renall’s memories, so let’s get on that.



It is kind of surreal, isn’t it…?
Hm, but this is probably because Nelo destroyed Renall’s mind… I’m sure.
More importantly, we need to find ways to get the memory back.
It’s a little suspicious… How the tip is destroyed like that.

They headed to the destroyed area, which was quite ominous really.



Yeah, I remember this place…
The place called Singing Hill… That’s where I sang to destroy Ra Ciela, turning it into energy.
Everyone was in a craze that day…
After the world was transformed into energy… We found a planet that supported life for a little while.
But, when the scouts went to the planet, Nelo interrupted the song, causing our occupation to fail…
I lost my memory, and with Nelo, I came to this timeline. That’s why I have no idea what happened after that.
Like how Nay is ruling over the world right now, and Renall lost her memory to Nelo… Like I have.
A lot of things happened, and we didn’t learn about it until we woke up.
I think Nay’s doing her best./Everyone’s working hard.
Yeah. The reason this world even exists is because of Nay, I suppose…
Now then… I think we just need to restore the abandoned building, but… How can we do that?
Sharl are good for repairs.
Yeah, that’s a good point. There aren’t any Sharls around here, are there?
The closest place that has any…
They were in Nelico’s world.
Okay. Then, let’s go to Nelico’s world.

Feinne’s Notes:
I might have mentioned that one of the events at the Sharl Nest in Nelico’s world wasn’t available when we were there normally. Now, it is.

They returned to Nelico’s world, to the place where the Sharl were created.



Hello. We actually have a favor to ask you today, that’s why we’re here.
Ar Cielno: Oh? How rare… What can I do for you?
The truth is… I want you to help me restore my memory again… Like you did for me before.
Ar Cielno: Huh!? Surely, you must be joking. You don’t have any more broken memories that we can repair.
It’s not me… It’s Renall.
Ar Cielno: Ahh, Renall. Yes, of course I can restore the memories.
Really!?
Ar Cielno: Yes, just moments ago, I received a plugin package, called Exista Pack! It has her information in it.
With this, I’m sure I can fix her up right away.
Umm… Do you think you could do it for me now?
Ar Cielno: Yes, of course. Please show me to Renall’s mind!

They returned to Renall’s mind with the Sharl, Ar Cielno.



Do you think you can fix it?
Ar Cielno: Of course. Compared to how badly your mind was broken, this is a walk in the park!
Ahhh… You make me sound like such a bad child…
Eeek! What!?

Unfortunately, before they could even start they were interrupted.



I am the one who protects this realm. As long as I exist here, nothing can intervene in this world.
What… Is this…?
They must be guards Nelo made/Those are huge breasts!
Yeah, I think so, too.
Please, can you restore this?
I cannot authorize that.
Then, we’re going to have to do it on our own. Ar Cielno, please.
Ar Cielno: Okay!
Uwaaaaaaaah!
Ar Cielno: Eeeeeeeeeeek!
Owww…
Ar Cielno: Oh no… I can’t repair it like this. It actually takes a while, so I need you to keep her busy.
* Sigh * That might not be possible…

Feinne’s Notes:
We can try to return, and if we hadn’t encountered Nelo with Delta and Cass that’s all we’d be able to do. Let’s just quickly see what that scene looks like.



Ar Cielno, maybe we can restore the memory now!
Ar Cielno: You got it!
Eeeeeeek!
I protect this realm… As long as I exist, you shall not pass.
Ar Cielno: Oh nooooo, Ar Cielno’s gonna run away!
Wait for me!

This would be as far as we could go if we’d gone earlier, as that lady would show up each time to stop us and we’d have no way to deal with it. But now that we’ve heard from Nelo how to deal with it, we can fix the problem.

Earthes, however, had an idea. And so they headed for one of the huge eyes watching the world.



Huh? A key…?
Let’s recover Renall’s memories.
Huh? Really?
The exit is Ixit.
Yeah, it’s the exit… This is where they keep an eye on it.
Ahh! “Where they keep an eye on the exit…”? Could this be it!?
Amazing! You’re amazing, Earthes! How did you know?
I saw Delta and Nelo’s conversation.
Then, if we do something by this eye…
I’ll crush it!/That’s too scary…
Earthes, do you think you can do something about it? Please?
Yes! All of the watching eyes are closed now!

Without the eye watching, the process could be started.



Ar Cielno: Now we can restore what we need without being interrupted!
Can you do it?
Ar Cielno: Of course I can. I could have this all fixed in a matter of hours!
Really? Thank goodness!
Ar Cielno: Well, I’m going to start the restoration process. Feel free to wander around. There’s not much to do.
I’ll be minding my own business…
R-Really? W-Well then, I’ll take you up on that offer…
Ar Cielno: Please, leave it all to me!
Whew… Now, Renall’s memories should go back to normal, right?
I suppose we should go back to Shirotaka’s place, too.

Feinne’s Notes:
There’s only one thing we can do around here for now, drop in on Ar Cielno again. But she’ll just tell us she’s still working.



Hmm… I guess it takes longer than I thought.
We should head over to Shirotaka’s now.

Let’s take that advice and head back to the Singing Hill.

They returned to check up on Renall back at the Singing Hill, and it seemed Ar Cielno had finished by the time they arrived.

Video- “Renall”

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Oh, Sarly. You’re already here?
You showed up earlier than I expected.
How is she doing?
Have a look.
Ion…?
Renall?
It’s been…a very long time, to be honest. Have you been well?
Yes…yes, I have!
Good… I see you haven’t changed at all.
Neither have you…
That’s not true. I’ve aged a little. …And these clothes are rather embarrassing.
Ha ha ha ha, I think they look nice.
More importantly…I heard you restored my memories.
I only did what I could.
You were able to regain your memories because you were able to be honest with yourself.
Nonetheless, I’m grateful.
I’m just glad we have you back!
So…how did the former Prime Minister of Ra Ciela lose her memories?

Renall was pretty quickly able to demonstrate why Nelo had wanted her out of the way.



Please do.
Do you remember Ra-Ciel Fuser?
Of course. It’s the song I sang, after all.
What’s Ra-Ciel Fuser?/Not interested.
A song I sang a long time ago, when Ra Ciela still existed. It was meant to turn the planet into energy.
The plan was to use that energy to transport everyone to another planet.
It would have saved everyone on Ra Ciela.
Correct. However, Nelo interfered.
We lost our planet, as well as the means to reach our destination.
And the vessel that was meant to contain that energy was…
The Microquasar.
Yes. It was sent with Ion to the future…to this era.
All because of Nelo.
Why did she sent the Microquasar here?
You cast her intent in the wrong light. She prevented us from moving to another planet. That was her goal.

Indeed, it seemed as though she’d very nearly been able to prevent the story from happening at all.



I see. So she used the energy of the Microquasar to travel to the distant future instead.
But why did we all wake up now?
Because this is when I set the Cold Sleep Pods to release.
I knew Nelo would be coming here.
I planned to awake before everyone else, in order to recover the Microquasar before she could.
Unfortunately…Nelo stopped me, and destroyed my memories.
Why would she want to erase your memories?
Likely because she feared the Song Magic I possess.
Why, do you have something special?
Yes. Song Magic capable of creating a wormhole, making transport between two planets possible.
Ah, that makes sense. She didn’t want the Maternal Overseer’s food running off to someplace else.
“Maternal Overseer”…?
Right. While your memories were broken, Nelo…

They laid out current events for Renall.



Yes, and it’s still alive, fusing with humans souls from the ship.
It’s a superior life-form, created through the fusion of thousands of souls, with Zill controlling them.
…That is madness.
If she keeps up, everyone on the ship, and all the Sharl above ground, will disappear.
We have to stop her before that happens.
It may take some thinking to find a way to stop this Maternal Overseer…
But with my song, we can open a gate to the planet we meant to travel to 5000 years ago.
If we can stop Nelo, this entire conflict will come to an end.
Do you think your song would still be effective?
Yes, of course, but just like Ra-Ciel Fuser, it requires a great deal of power.
It cannot be sung without the power of the Empress.
As you are no longer the Empress, Ion, this may pose a problem.
The Empress…? Oh…
What about Nay?
Empress Nayaflask…is still alive?
Of course! And as full of energy as always.
And even running a restaurant.
…I’m not sure I follow, but please, take me to Her Majesty.
May I ask for your guidance?
Yeah, of course.

Earthes checked in with Shirotaka before they left.



Thank you very much for saying that! You have a lot of potential, Earthes.
Now… Time for us to talk about Pretty Berry, the immortal idol, until the break of dawn!
Wasn’t Pretty Berry…?
Yeah, she was Nay… A long time ago, when she was a dancer, Shirotaka was her biggest fan.
No, Ion… That’s not how it works. Nay and Pretty Berry are the same, but not…!
Pretty Berry is a dancing angel. One who makes our dreams come true when she’s on the stage…
But that can only happen when she stands on stage, you see.
You’re really into this…/I totally get that!
That’s how much she’s changed my life!
Ever since I was younger… I wanted to do what I’m doing now, you know… Mechanical stuff, like an engineer.
But no one understood me… And when I realized it, I ran away from home!
I didn’t even know left from right… And that’s when I ran into her. Pretty Berry…
Seeing her on stage like that. It gave me hope to continue living…
To witness every single stage, every concert… I worked like there was no tomorrow. Gaining my independence.
When the going got tough, she would always be by my side… I exist now because of her.
So, it’s not an understatement to say… All this Pretty Berry merch you see made me what I am today…
…Hehe, I normally don’t talk about this to others, but…

I’m pretty sure Ion and Earthes just slowly backed out of the room at that point. Shortly after they returned to Felion, Delta and Cass also arrived.

Video- “The Plan”

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There’s always something.
I can’t really deny that.
So, what is it this time?
Prime Minister Tatalca has returned.
…You’re kidding.
Do I look like I’m joking?

She’s one of the Seven Ion was talking about, right?
Yes. Renall Tatalca. She served as Prime Minister for the Empress, and she was a supporter of Ion and Nay.
Where has she been…?
I haven’t seen her since I went into cryostasis, either…
We can talk details inside.

Renall brought much needed organization to their efforts.



The appearance of the Maternal Overseer seems to be interfering with the operation of the ship.
Renall… How long do you think the ship can continue operation?
Given that the power source has been switched back, the threat shouldn’t be immediate.
However, with the Maternal Overseer raging unchecked in the Placenta, it’s difficult to predict.
If we cannot eliminate the Maternal Overseer, then our first priority must be escape from this vessel.
But how could we do that? Where would we go?
To the planet that was our destination when Ra Ciela was destroyed.
We should be able to make ti there if we sing the CIEL_N installed in my Genometrics, “Class::DISTLLISTA;”.
“Class::DISTLLISTA;”…?
What does it do?
Simply put, it can tear open space-time to allow the transportation of matter from one place to another.
Like a wormhole… Will it work?
For one, if we can’t survive the trip then there’s not much point…
To be honest… It’s never been sung before. My memories were broken by Nelo immediately after we created it.
…I see. So this song was a threat to Nelo’s plans.
I awoke from cryostasis about 10 years ago, a while before any of you, along with several scientists and soldiers.
We conducted a long-range survey, starting with the former location of Ra Ciela.
We discovered that there was a faint connection to the planet we’d meant to travel to—a trickle of energy.
I had the scientists use that connection to program a song that would allow us to access the planet.

As well as a goal to work towards.



So this song can move everybody to the other planet? Why don’t we just do that right now?
Unfortunately, that’s not possible. Even using Her Majesty’s power, it could likely send two people at the most.
Then doesn’t that seem kind of pointless?
Perhaps, but we have lost our planet and will soon lose our ship. What other choice do we have?
If the song succeeds, we could gain the support of our friends on the other side. It is a gamble, of course.
Unfortunately, given the situation it seems like the only possible solution.
The question is who to send, and what they should do once they reach the other side.
I don’t know what we should do, but it seems obvious who should go.
What? Who?
Me.
Wait, Delta, what are you saying?
I’m the only option.
If something happens, I should be able to get Earthes’s help through Interdimend.
Um…Earthes and I could go instead…
I mean, you have Cass, and…
No, let me go. Whether or not I succeed, I don’t have much time left.
I want to use that time as effectively as I can.
You understand, right Cass?
That’s… It’s not fair to put it like that.

It seemed they’d be going to another world.



Okay. I’ll sing the best song I can for you.
Thanks, Nay.
…I want to go too.
Are you serious? There’s no guarantee you’ll get back. You know that, right?
That’s why I want to go! I’m Delta’s partner, after all. I can go, right?
…Yeah, of course.
Alright then. Nay, I’d like you to sing the best song for me too, then.
Sheesh… Fine, but make sure you listen closely!
…Then our plan is set.
To go to the other world, we must use a part of Ra Ciela. That is where we should begin.
…Where’s that?
The Singing Hill, a place once called the Center of Ra Ciela.
Can I count on you to help me prepare the song?
Oh, of course.
I’ll handle any singing you need me to do, but I’ll pass on any kind of mechanical stuff.
I’ll take care of that. We need to make sure we’re ready before we open that space-time pathway.
Delta, can you and Cass come with me to see Shirotaka?
Sure.
Let’s get going then.

Alright, that’s a good place to stop. Next time we’ll see what Renall’s world was like now that her memories were restored.

Next Time, Ar Nosurge: Cruelty

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Are we betting those scouts somehow created a civilization that lasted 5000 years and is ready to pull the ship through on a moment's notice? Because I'm not seeing any other way this can help.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

Sindai posted:

Are we betting those scouts somehow created a civilization that lasted 5000 years and is ready to pull the ship through on a moment's notice? Because I'm not seeing any other way this can help.

Well, I think we're just in general betting that we can find someone or something on the other side that can help in any way shape or form.

So I will say the 'scouting party' was in fact pretty large and had Genom with them, so there's every chance they did okay.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
Dive coming next, where we learn exactly what it was that Ion did to ruin Nay's life.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
Alright, alright, I know you’re excited now that I told you about the trip but we’ve got a lot to do before it’s time to go so you all really need to get your sleep. So settle down, it’s story time. Ion and Earthes returned to Renall’s mind to check on things after speaking with her.

Feinne’s Notes:
You might notice I’ve got like huge stacks of Dive Points. If you’re good at the combat system and getting high ranks it’s simplicity itself to get more DP than you really need.



…Yeah, it is. I wonder if it’s because Renall’s memory is back?

They headed to the Singing Hill together, where Earthes noted something had changed a bit since they left.



Hmm, do you think so? If it’s a robot placed by Nelo to interrupt the process… I don’t think it would-
Eeeeeeeek!!
But why…!? We already restored everything? Why get in the way now…?
Detected high risk factor… Capturing target immediately.
…Huh?
N-No way…
Ion!!!
Target captured.

Earthes rushed to try and find Ion.



…Let me go! Let me go from here!
Ion!!
Did you come to help me?!
Please, get me out of here… I don’t want to be here anymore!
…! S-Stop it! You won’t last if you keep that up!
Noooooooooo!
Break down the door.
I shall punish any who dare touch this door.
Fight./Strategic retreat.
It will not work. I will now terminate you, as you are a liability.
???: Watch out!

Earthes was saved by a surprise visitor.



You’re welcome. But you cannot defeat this one… I suggest we retreat for now!
Understood!/No way!
Alright! All units, fall back!
Whew… Managed to get away from that somehow.
Still, I can’t believe you. Why would you fight that thing?
That thing’s the strongest guardian of this world… Armored Adehime. She moves at Renall’s will.
That’s why in order to do something about her, we need to do something about Renall.
Still, why were you fighting her?
Ion’s behind that door.
Heh, I see… You’re Ion’s little prince after all, aren’t you?
Well, that’s all the more reason to find Renall and defeat her.
Very well. I’ll follow you. Now, let’s go look for Renall.

She wasn’t terribly difficult to find.



She’s going crazy inside of that room, but… Aside from that, I don’t see any problems.
I see… Very well. Don’t let her escape.
Understood. We will use the eyes of observation to keep watch on her, day and night.
One more thing. There’s an unexpected variable at play in this world… Please, beware.
…I see. Thank you.

Ah, so it was you after all, Renall… You captured Ion.
Why would you confine her?
…Who knows? I’m not Renall, so I can’t really say…
If you want to know the answer… You have to go to the source!
…Hm?
Hey, you!
You’re…?
Let Ion go!
…Heh, you must be the “unexpected variables”.

Though, it turned out she wasn’t very helpful either.



Huh!? Then, no one can free Ion anymore? She’s never coming out!?
That’s correct. It would be impossible to unlock something as repulsive as… “that”.
What!? Repulsive…? Who the hell do you think you are?
I have an obligation to protect this world. And “that” cannot be unleashed.
Once it has… Terror will reign over this world.
What the hell are you talking about. You’re making Ion sound like some kind of monster.
Monster…? Ridiculous… Calling “that” a monster.
To me, “that” is something that ought to be loved… I’m protecting her.
Protecting…? You’re imprisoning her! You call that protecting!?
Protecting… Yes, perhaps you’re right… I’ve failed to protect her.
Please, take a look at that beautiful starry sky.
That may very well be the most important thing in this world.
That’s the planet Ra Ciela. Long ago, it spanned as far as the eye can see…
But, because of my failure, the planet is no more. And, at the same time, “that” was born…
I can’t even keep up with you anymore.
I don’t expect you to. At any rate, that room cannot be opened. Don’t you dare try again.
I’ll open it, even taking you down.

And that they’d maybe misunderstood completely.



Armored Adehime…
Please, forgive my mistakes.
They may not be forgiven.
…Very well. Then, please do it.
I accept.
Huuuuuh!? What are you doing!?
I’m assisting her.
What…? Why…?
What’s going on?
She dies everyday. For her sins, she pays… Every day. I simply help her.
…!?
Well then, if you’ll excuse me. But, if you approach that door, I will not hesitate to strike you down.
How could this be…? Renall wasn’t controlling her. It’s the other way around!?
Earthes, I wasn’t expecting this. We need to change our strategy.
What’s the plan?
Hmm…
I don’t know. We should start by looking around this world and finding some clues.

Going by her weakness the first time around, Earthes suspected the eyes were the key to getting past Armored Adehime.



Hmm… Eyes on the entire world, huh?
Which means… If these eyes are “blind”, no one can keep tabs on us anymore.
Armored Adehime’s movement slowed.
Really!? Why didn’t you say so sooner!?
If we’re not under attack, it would give us an opportunity to open that door!
Let’s try!/I need to prepare…
Alright! Go, Earthes! Do them in!
Alright! The eyes are down. Let’s hurry!

They rushed back to try and help Ion.



Earthes! You came for me!
Ion, are you okay?
Nay!? Are you there, too, Nay?
Please, help me… I feel like I’m going to die in here.
They’re doing these experiments on me all day, and it’s painful… I’m locked up in this room.
Ion, it’s going to be okay! We’re going to open this door now, so just hang tight!
Hrrrrrrrng! Dammit… Locked tight.
Is there no key inside?/Destroy it.
If there was, I would’ve opened the door and run away.
Yeah, duh… Are you okay?
Please, open this!
These people are doing mean things to me… They want to use my body.
Tell me more./Ion’s body is mine!
They said they’re waiting for my body to arrive… That’s when they’ll open the door. It could be our chance!
Ion’s body…? You don’t mean…
But, I’ve been waiting, and nothing came… That’s why, Nay, Earthes… Find my body and bring it here!
Then, we’ll be ale to open this door. Once the door’s open, you can beat everyone up, right Earthes?

But something Ion said seemed to bother Nay.



Yeah! That’s exactly it, Nay! That’s what everyone’s saying… They need Ionasal kkll Preciel’s body!
Nay, do you know where to find it!?

…Nay? What’s the matter?
…Tch!
Huh? What’s going on? What’s happening!?
Ion, I’ll be back!
Huuuuuh!? Please, wait for me!

Earthes tracked Nay down, and got the truth. How Ion had ruined her life.



Earthes, let’s give up… No, please. We have to give up.
Ion said so… They want her body. That probably means…
…They want me.
But, I don’t want to give it up. So, I can’t help you.
Huh…? What’s that mean!?
You already know, right? I’m this so-called “Divine Empress”, but.. That used to be Ion.
That could mean anything… I succeeded the position relatively unharmed. But the truth goes deeper…
I… Ion took my name and my body…
I’m the real Ion, and… Ionasal kkl Preciel is the real “me”.
I don’t understand./I already knew.
Ion’s from a different world, right? Her real name is Nei Yuuki.
But, Nei’s entire body wasn’t brought here… Only her soul.
The reason only her soul was transported is because it required a massive amount of energy to move more.
Whatever the reason, when she came to this world, she didn’t have a physical form.
So, my body was used. The reason? Because I was the Princess.
Those with power wanted to make Nei the Empress… So they placed her soul into my body.
I was chased out of my own flesh, and should have died… Until my friend saved me.
I was given a Sharl body, and thanks to that, here I am… Alive.
That’s why this body really belongs to a Sharl… And, well… My real body, is her.

And just to further prove this, her shape changed.



So? What do you think?
This is really weird./I want to take her home like this.
Well, yeah… You’re probably so used to seeing Ion in this body.
…Heh, but in reality it really is painful. That’s obvious, huh?
That room you saw… Was where the souls were exchanged. She keeps calling for the body because I’m here.
Even if it was a mistake, if I go with this body, I think the doors will open. But I can’t… I can’t go.
You don’t have to force yourself./Why?
You’re really kind, aren’t you…? But, you need to care for Ion more than me, you know?
I’ll take care of Ion myself./I like Nay more.
No, it’s impossible… A bomb wouldn’t be able to destroy this door. I mean, even you couldn’t with your strength.
Ahh, you leave me no choice. This is going to be the only time, okay!?
And promise me… If something ever happens to me, that you’ll come to save me. Okay?
Thanks, Nay!
Now, I guess it’s time to start a fight… This is gonna be one helluva raid!

Earthes and Nay headed down to the room. This may have been a terrible mistake.



Alright… Here we go.
Thanks, Nay./That look suits you.
It’s okay, I decided I was going to do this.
More importantly, I’m helping you so much, I think you should put a little more effort into it, too.
…!
Who’s there…?
It’s me. Ion. Ionasal kkll Preciel.
Huh…? N-No. This can’t be…!?
It’s true. It’s the one and only, Ionasal kkll Preciel!
…!

Inside the room, Nei Yuuki waited. Though it seemed she preferred Ion’s appearance to whatever her original face looked like.




Earthes… Thank you. For saving me.
Are you okay!? Do you feel weak?/Are you okay!? Are you ill?
Don’t worry… I’m all better now because you saved me.
Now, let’s get out of here! I never want to see this room again. We need to go before someone spots us!
…Yeah, you’re right.
Huh…?
N mud ah W ei-tao zwee-uii;
Eeeeeeeeek!
Noooooooo! Let me out! Let me OUT OF HERE!
What are you doing!?
Let’s go, Earthes… The time for punishment… Is about to begin.
Don’t leave me! Let me out of here! Let me out of here, now!
NO! No… I don’t WANT THIS!
Help Nay (Ion)/Chase Ion (Nei Yuuki)
Please… Please, hurry, HURRY!
None shall open this door. I will see to it they are terminated.
Respond quickly./Why are you here?
That will not work. I will eliminate you, as you’re a threat. A factor of risk.
A retreat is necessary.
Nooooooooooooooooooooo!

With no other option, Earthes chased after Nei Yuuki.



…!?
Eek! Wh-What are you doing here!?

Th-There’s no way you could come out… That door cannot be opened!
…Unless “Ion’s body” showed up. And, it did.
The partner I love and hold so dearly came for me…
More importantly…
Today, I wanted to ask you something. That’s why I’m here. Explain why you kept me a captive here…
…!!
How long do you intend to keep me locked up in this world?
I-I’m sorry. It’s been a while… But really, it’s just a little more. Just a little…!
I’m tired of hearing those words. It’s been thousands of years since we spoke like this…
But I’ve tried! You would always return to your own world…
Tried? Then, why would you let them take me captive and keep me here? Why not stop them?
That’s because… It was for the sake of this world. I didn’t have a choice!
Long ago, the planet Ra Ciela became uninhabitable, due to the sun’s expansion.
We needed your strength… The power to oversee everything! That’s why…!

Things were not going constructively.



I was against it!
But, I couldn’t stop them… That’s why I’m here right now.
I’m sorry… I’m so sorry! I live everyday, filled with regret! It was all my fault!
For bringing you here… For the migration failing… And for all the pain we’ve put you through.
That’s why I try to atone… I die everyday, in front of you…
That’s not enough anymore.
…!
You know it, too, don’t you? Suicide is just a selfish way to satisfy your own ego.
Stop it!
If not, then why would you keep me locked up in a place like that?
Because you were afraid of me… You were afraid I would hate you, and exact revenge… So you imprison me.
You didn’t want to talk to me. You wanted to forget!
Please, stop it! I’m sorry… You’re right, I was afraid you would retaliate… Always…
Because I… I kept betraying you. I said I would return you to your world, but I couldn’t even protect you…
I was afraid! I thought you truly despised me…
Ding-dong! Of course, I despise you… So, you’re dying every day? That sounds like fun… Let’s try it again!

See the ring over there? C’mon, show me how you always do it.
Armored Adehime… Come.

And whoever it was behind Earthes wasn’t willing to let things continue.



This is our shared Soulscape. Yours and mine… I can use it too, you know? When I want to…
Now, this one’s going to assist you killing yourself. So go on, hurry…
If you’re truly full of regret, then put this ring around your neck. NOW!
Ion, stop it!
Y-You… When did you get here?
Hey, look… Renall’s going to kill herself today. To make up for all the mistakes in the past. Hehehe…
Renall isn’t at fault./I see…

Armored Adehime, keep a close eye on Renall. I need to talk to Earthes.
Understood.
…Why? Why don’t you understand the pain I’m going through?
I wasn’t always like this…
They threw me into a dirty room, injected me with things… Cut me, peeked inside my head.
I wished I could just die…
But it’s not like Renall did that./That’s right…
Why!? It’s the same thing! She’s a part of the organization that locked me up!
She says she didn’t consent, but… She didn’t try to help me either. No matter how much I screamed for help.
You can’t possibly understand how I feel!
I know./It’s hard to agree.
Don’t lie to me! What do you know!?

Defying her caused Ion to lose control a bit.



No matter how much pain I’m in. You just keep pushing those buttons, laughing at me. Right!?
That’s wrong./That’s right.
…Yes, well. Why don’t you prove it, then?
If you’re not just fooling around… And you really care about me, you can prove it, right?
Then let’s play a game… Come to the exit, where the eyes are watching.
Renall… I’m going to step out for a bit.
You can hold off on the suicide until I return… Adehime will stay here with you.
Renall, are you okay?
…I’ll be fine. And you… If you’re heading for the exit, I suggest you be careful.
She is full of hatred right now. All of the pain and resentment that she’s held over the years is manifest.
It scared me… What was inside. That’s why I locked her away… In this limbo. Her heart is crying out…

Feinne’s Notes:
This next section is very, very rude. It’s five mostly blind choices. It doesn’t kick you out for being wrong, though.

Your father insists I was never as rude as this, and I hope he’s right.



I’ll ask you some questions about myself, and I want you to answer them.
If you truly care for me, then you should be able to answer everything, right? Power of love, and all that…
Remember, your responses, your posture, your stance… It’s all recorded by the eye.
So! Are you ready for the first question?
Sure!/I’m not prepared…
Here it comes…!
Number 1. What’s my favorite place?
New Suginohara Station/Remido Bookstore/Home Center/Kokoro Café
Ding-ding! I love my home… And the cedar trees along the street.
Number 2. How many sisters does my mother have?
2 people/4 people/3 people/1 person
Ding-ding! It’s just auntie Momona, and my mom!
Number 3. What’s my most embarrassing memory from when I was in primary school?
Skirt caught in their panties/Insisting the right eye was evil/Wetting themselves during class/Mistaking a request for a confession
Ding-ding! For a while at school, my panties were showing…
Number 4. What made me cry the most out of anything?
Fighting with parents/Death of their younger sister/Losing a friendship/Something bad done by a classmate
That’s right. When I told them I wanted to do something where I work in space, they got really mad at me.
Number 5. How do I feel about you right now…
I don’t want to get involved/I trust her/I love her/I want to leave her
Right…
That’s amazing! You’ve got them all correct! I’m really impressed!

Feinne’s Notes:
So, a couple of those questions can be made more easy with other knowledge. That the Station is her favorite makes sense given she loves trains. I want to say we’ve heard enough to know she had a fight with her parents over her future, if not we will eventually know that and could in theory do that after this point. We know precisely poo poo all about her mother or what happened to her that was embarrassing those are totally blind. As for the last one, the most negative one is also sort of obvious.

Earthes insisted that they’d managed to succeed the first try. Whether this was the case or not, Ion was not impressed.



Lies. It’s four choices and 5 questions… The odds are 1 in 1,024.
It’s either a miracle, or… You cheated. Right?
…It’s impossible. You’ll never understand. You’re on the other side of that screen…
You can say all the pretty things you want, but there’s no way of knowing whether you’re telling the truth…
…We’re at our limit. I think this is the end of the road…
It’s like Nelico said. We should’ve stopped when she warned us.
If our relationship was deeper, then maybe it wouldn’t have had to end this way…
Don’t joke around./…
…You’re the one joking around.
I’m happy being around you, you know? You talk to me… Protect me…
But, I have no way of knowing whether any of that is real!
How do you really feel about me?
Do you truly love me? Or… Am I just another girl on the other side of a screen?
I don’t want to think about it anymore! I’m not going to find an answer…
So, we should call it quits. If you don’t end our relationship here, then I will…
Armored Adehime!
Please, make sure that Earthes…
…never sees the light of day!
I trust you.
…Huh!?
Your will is my command…

If Ion had truly wanted Earthes gone, that would have been the end of things. But as it happened, she was of two minds on the subject.



Hey, you alive? This is Nelico here.
Heh, doubt you can respond, so just listen to what I have to say.
You’ve… You’ve opened a door that cannot be opened in the lighthouse keeper.
Were you disappointed?
But you know, any living thing has two sides like that.
Even the gentle looking ones, like the lighthouse keeper. It’s just part of being alive.
…It might be unreasonable at times… And what they say makes no sense.
But when that happens, the other person could be overwhelmed with what’s on their plate, too…
If you ask me, it doesn’t bother me, but… Since you decided to go down this route, I have to support you.
I could be terminated, just from being here, but… I thought I could restore your body just one more time.
When everything’s back to normal, you should return to the lighthouse keeper. But you think long and hard…
What your relationship is, and how to interact with each other.
And, with eyes unclouded, you should tackle every decision together, seriously…
…Now, close your eyes. I’m going to repair you.
Good boy, yes, yes… Go to sleep…
Nelico!?

Which gave Earthes one last chance to get through to her.



Alright, let’s do it one more time…
Huh? Earthes? You’re fixed? Wow, that’s amazing… I thought I smashed you to bits.
But look at this! Renall already died 53 times today, you know?
That’s not something you get to experience every day… Just like me, and the experiments they run…
Let’s stop this.
…It’s okay. This is my crime… I deserve this…
See? She agrees! She wants to be punished like this. You’re the only one who feels that way.
Let’s stop this.
…If I stop, what are you doing to do for me?
Oh, you’re going to press some buttons on the other side of the screen? Anyone can do that.
That sounds like fun! I wish my job was like that, too!
Instead of being in this dirty, corrupt excuse of a world!
Why can’t I just sit on the couch, like you, watching this story unfold, waiting for this planet to die?
Hehehe… That’d be a spectacle, wouldn’t it? Watching a planet die?
And even these stupid things I’m saying right now… Probably better than some 3rd rate soap opera!
Ion, stop this.
No matter how painful it is to me… Even if I’m about to die, it’s just a drama to you!
So, I suggest you enjoy it as much as you can! From the other side of that screen!
I know you’re in pain, Ion!
Shut up! Stop it! Please, just stop saying those “perfect” words!
What the hell do you know!?

So they decided to go big.



It’s painful… It hurts!
I was brought to this world, and I’ve been alone the whole time… Just pain every day… In a dark room.
Renall tries to cheer me up but… She’s a part of that organization, so I can’t fight. I just have to cry!
Sure, I’ve made some friends… But they won’t understand what I’m going through. It just makes it painful…
Deep down, I wish I could go home. Every day, I wished for it! But I can’t… I’d rather die!
But even then, I still… I still thought that if I could save this world, maybe it was worth trying!
That was the only thought keeping me alive…
But, why… Why do all these things have to happen to me!?
I just wanted to live a normal life in my own world…!
But even dreams like that… They wouldn’t even let me see them.
I still had to try, though… I couldn’t go home, watching this planet die!
BUT! What’s so wrong about what I wanted!?
You can’t blame me for feeling this way deep down…
Or, is that not allowed, either…? Is it THAT bad?
Then, what am I…!? What am I supposed to do with all these feelings!?
It’s not that bad.
Then, why are you stopping me!? WHY!?
Because you’re important, Ion./It’s too painful to watch.
How can you love me…? Why…?
All you do is press buttons on the other side of the screen…

And managed to get their feelings across.



…!
Because… Because… I just don’t understand!!
I don’t get it at all! How you feel when you look at the screen… How you feel about me. How can I know…?
No means to tell, but I love her./No means to tell, but she’s important.
You… Love me…?
Ion… No, Nei.
Huh…?
Forever might be difficult.
I’ll think of you more than anyone.
About Nei, more than anyone.
…That’s not fair.
You can say that all you want…
…! * Sniff * But…
It still… Makes me happy. True, or not…
Thank…you…
Thank you…! * Sniff *
Uwaaaaaaaaaaaahn! I was so lonely! I’ve always been lonely!
I make friends, but there was always a gap between us…!
But… But-! What you just said to me… It felt so warm, that I…!

Even if feelings were the only way they’d ever meet, it was still something.



I can feel you right now… With my whole body, I feel you.
Thank you… Thank you so much…
…I love you…
Even if it’s only for a moment…
Even if we can’t hold hands…
…This feeling is true.
Renall, I’m so sorry. I was lashing out at you.
You really did care about me this whole time…
No, that’s not… I need to apologize to you.
Why…?
My thoughts had a negative effect on you…
I thought you hated this world so much more.
So, I was afraid to talk to you honestly. I always kept your existence hidden…
And, the “me” inside of “you” turned into this monstrous creature… It was affecting you. Turning you mad…
…Even if that were true, I cannot deny those feelings existed within me. It’s not entirely your fault.
I guess you can say we’re even.
…I guess. Hehe, we’re even, then…
AHh, the Embrace Role… I guess you’re diving even deeper now…
There’s still more…
Or, have you had too much already? Hehehe.
But, thanks to you, your thoughts reached me… And, I was able to grow.
I can’t even connect my heart like this with someone by my side…
I’m so glad you’re a part of my life.

They went to try and help Nay, but that problem seemed to have deferred itself to another day.



Nay? Nay… I’m sorry! I’m sorry I locked myself up in here for so long…!
She’s not here…
NAY!?

Went back to their own world?
Yeah, maybe so…
But, I did something really bad… I was hoping to apologize…

There was nothing left to do but head for the hymmnofort.



…You know, I actually wanted to tell you something, so I’ll tell you now.
It’s a little embarrassing, actually…
Um…
I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to say anything bad…
But, I wanted to see if you really were my prince, so… I said a lot of mean things to you.
Hehehe… That was probably a little immature…
I really was happy that you helped solve my problems, though…
I knew you didn’t know all the answers, but I asked you anyway. And, you got them all right.
I was thinking, you probably tried over and over again… Until you got it right. It made me really happy…
Thank you. You really did turn out to be y prince…

Renall and Adehime arrived about then.



Renall. Thank you so much for everything.
I know I said a lot of mean things, but… All the bad energy in my heart is now lifted…
I can say the same, Ion. I apologize for locking you up the whole time, too…
Although, it’s nothing more than an excuse now…
You meant so much to me that I… I was afraid to lose you, by being too honest.
But now that the truth is out there, I have no regrets.
Renall, you’ve been pressuring yourself your entire life.
Thank you, Renall. You’ve always been on my side, no matter how long you were in that organization.
…Thanks, Ion. I think I’ll be able to sleep at night, knowing you feel that way.
Are you two ready to go through the gate?
As the ruler of this world, I acknowledge the bond between you two.


Should we go?
Yeah… You and I… We can take the next step together.

For the moment, things were okay again.



Though I suppose next time they Dive we’ll see if it lasted.

Next Time, Ar Nosurge: To the Center of the World

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
This is a very silly video game.

legoman727
Mar 13, 2010

by exmarx
Well that explains why Nay and Ion don't get along at least.

Jesus christ, it sucks to be Nay. Her body and identity got stolen.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Well the genometrics certainly got more interesting.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

This is super loving weird, and honestly pretty drat creepy.

I thought it was kind of interesting how they made the player themselves a character in the story just because I like it when things get meta, but the fact that the character who is literally the player gets a romance plot with the female lead is kind of awful. It just comes off as incredible pandering, your love for this video game character saved her from despair or whatever and she returns your love. Yes player, your video game girlfriend loves you, as in literally the person who is pressing buttons on the controller and staring at a screen. It's so goddamn weird.


I think Earthes, or just the player in general, might be least favourite character in the game.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
We've still got some more weirdness to go, too. I actually have access to Ion 2 now, but I'm going to hold off until after Nay 2 because that makes more sense. We can also go do Zill's Land of Death on the Delta/Cass side, which is a very peculiar Dive indeed.

We'll have plot next of course. Hopefully Wednesday, because we've got family staying with us for a few days later in the week and I might be a bit busy for my normal schedule.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
Yeah, all the weird metaphors for sex and female hangups in Ar Tonelica don't hold a candle to this game kicking down the fourth wall and presenting the female lead as your interdimensional waifu. Give me a break, Japan. :japan:

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
You might think poo poo has previously gotten crazy but I assure you, the next update is in fact where poo poo gets C R A Z Y.

It shouldn't actually be that long so I can probably promise tomorrow, we've got CLASS::DISTLLISTA and a bit of a surprise.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Feinne posted:

You might think poo poo has previously gotten crazy but I assure you, the next update is in fact where poo poo gets C R A Z Y.

It shouldn't actually be that long so I can probably promise tomorrow, we've got CLASS::DISTLLISTA and a bit of a surprise.

Is it that time already? Hoo boy.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

legoman727 posted:

Well that explains why Nay and Ion don't get along at least.

Jesus christ, it sucks to be Nay. Her body and identity got stolen.

It makes you wonder if Nelo's body is the same way.

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thetruegentleman
Feb 5, 2011

You call that potato a Trump avatar?

THIS is a Trump Avatar!

Mokinokaro posted:

It makes you wonder if Nelo's body is the same way.

Even better! The person who had Nelo's body originally is probably long dead, killed as soon as Nelo was forced into her current body. If not, then someone has been hanging around in a "fake" body for around 8000 years now. Either way, you can bet Nelo is really happy about how Ion has someone to share her misery with (Nay, who was wronged in the same procedure), whereas Nelo has been alone for thousands of years and has no one on her side. Ion even got lucky with the Earthes player, who is almost a literal White Knight (with Ion being an empress and all), whereas Nelo either got some rear end in a top hat who has "his" own agenda "he" is using her for, or is otherwise someone who shares a mentality with Tenzan from SRW.

Anyway, I have to admit that I really like how the game tries to bond the player with Ion: sure, it doesn't really work for us since its basically pay off for playing Ciel Nosurge, but it's still an interesting way of making the player attached to the heroine. Or rather, it's an interesting way to get the player to think about the nature of love and its relation with reality: more "can you really love a person you never meet" than "can you love a video game character", of course, as I really hope people don't think the latter is possible.

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