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curiousCat posted:Swain is in a good spot protip i have never won lane vs a swain in the entire time i have played league of legends, gently caress that guy
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Jul 24, 2015 14:29
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The best part of Swain is that if you get ahead you can just turn into a bird, stand in the middle of the other team, and laugh as they fail to kill you.
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Jul 24, 2015 14:33
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A lot of goons don't live in the US to go on silversquid though
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Jul 24, 2015 14:34
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The thing I love about Swain is that there are like 50 good items on him. There's no direct, obvious path with stuff to buy like with many other characters.
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Jul 24, 2015 14:36
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If I was a Fiora main, I'd probably just give up and switch to someone else because god drat that's a loving awful rework Like, I can honestly us looking back and being like "lol they almost released that as her ult"
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Jul 24, 2015 15:07
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I like swain but man he is hard to farm with later in the game
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Jul 24, 2015 15:18
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Gibberish posted:If I was a Fiora main, I'd probably just give up and switch to someone else because god drat that's a loving awful rework i've started playing yasuo top instead because i don't care about winning anyway
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Jul 24, 2015 15:21
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Holy poo poo Elise
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Jul 24, 2015 15:22
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Gibberish posted:If I was a Fiora main, I'd probably just give up and switch to someone else because god drat that's a loving awful rework Yeah, unless the heal is extremely strong and you just use it to snipe someone who is about to die (you are not gonna be able to get all four procs in a 5 v 5, seriously) I'm not sure how thats supposed to work post lane. Honestly I feel like they just turned her from melee adc into a tank. She has CC now, true damage procs, and a mobile kit with less burst damage, so yeah, she'd might be a decent tank with the right numbers. Laning will probably be fun though. JuniperCake fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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Jul 24, 2015 15:22
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What did they actually DO to her?  I'll admit it, I used to be an Elise main. I love me some spider-queen. Gonna have to get on this train while it lasts.
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Jul 24, 2015 15:25
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mistaya posted:What did they actually DO to her? I haven't played her yet - but the buff on her base e to a 1.6 second stun (vs. 1) means she can max Q first without giving up any utility early. I've probably played 300 games on her ever since someone in this thread posted a bunch of teaching videos on her to learn to jungle. Looking at champion.gg it says her most frequent win skill order max's W first. I'm assuming this is because so many bronze players are playing her and maxing Q first (dragging that win rate down) vs. W legitimately being better. Is this true?
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Jul 24, 2015 15:32
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Gibberish posted:If I was a Fiora main, I'd probably just give up and switch to someone else because god drat that's a loving awful rework GOOD
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Jul 24, 2015 15:35
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if i had to guess, W is probably her fastest jungle clearing speed now that her spiderlings do full damage to jungle monsters
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Jul 24, 2015 15:35
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mistaya posted:What did they actually DO to her?
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Jul 24, 2015 15:35
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Stun buff from 1 second to 1.6 is pretty massive. It's harder to hit now than it was before! I guess! I never knew the spiderlings didn't do magic damage, that's really cool. Elise is almost a perfect jungler, apart from a lack of proper initiation. She has strong ganks, a lot of options for builds, good objective control with % damage and spiderlings to attack turrets, good farming, does magic damage. I'm really excited to play her again flyingkiwi fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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Jul 24, 2015 15:43
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Dosvidanya posted:if i had to guess, W is probably her fastest jungle clearing speed now that her spiderlings do full damage to jungle monsters I forgot the spiderling damage got changed. I'll have to try W today. I think that's why Elise has these crazy swings all the time. One innocuous change (full spider damage) can be an awesome buff on any other patch (spiders now do magic damage). Time to get in before they hit her with the newspaper again
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Jul 24, 2015 15:46
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Libertine posted:Every game I was in tonight had a Jungle Elise and they all did really well. I think that poo poo is back, probably competitive back in almost every game back. Will wait to see how it shakes out when the numbers drop, but my early inclination is that she must be rising really high. Killed By Death posted:
Other than what you guys already said. I think there's an enormous population of people who have played a bazillion games of Elise. There's a lot of inherent experience across the playerbase. So when she gets a buff of this magnitude (quite considerable), it's exploited immediately by tons of people to produce the above results. This is why Lee Sin can never be buffed again. Flipswitch posted:Elise is gud nao and I likey, plus she rewards the players actually being good. It's true, Elise is one of the skill champions. Most champions only reward stupid idiots.
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Jul 24, 2015 15:48
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Libertine posted:I think there's an enormous population of people who have played a bazillion games of Elise. There's a lot of inherent experience across the playerbase. So when she gets a buff of this magnitude (quite considerable), it's exploited immediately by tons of people to produce the above results. This is why Lee Sin can never be buffed again. You can see this in the Playerbase Experience Distribution graph on champion.gg. More than half the people that play her have 15+ games of ranked on her, and 13% have 125+ games (Not as high as the Zeds and the Jinxes out there, but fairly high.)
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Jul 24, 2015 15:52
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I'm a stupid idiot and I play stupid idiot champs so I can confirm that last statement as well. I really don't like the fact they buffed Tahm Kench. I know it's the Riot Maneuver when something doesn't immediately rock onto the scene it needs more buffs but I really, really think he didn't need it. Did they ever get around to saying what lane he was meant to be in?
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Jul 24, 2015 15:54
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oxidation posted:You can see this in the Playerbase Experience Distribution graph on champion.gg. More than half the people that play her have 15+ games of ranked on her, and 13% have 125+ games (Not as high as the Zeds and the Jinxes out there, but fairly high.) I know, but in this case I think it's more relevant to S3 and S4 experience which isn't indicated on that graph. Elise is the S3 Victorious skin and she was like the most dominant competitive champion forever. She had a 100% pick/ban in the entirety of OGN Champion Winter 2013-14 regardless of who was playing that's how good she was. She's been awful for almost all of 2015, one of the lowest win-rate junglers in the entire game. Anyone having a lot of S5 games on her considering how weak she has been would just strike me as really weird. What I meant was that there are a lot of people who played her every game she was available in S3 and S4 and those people haven't gone away, now that she's strong again they will probably pick her again every time she is available. Flipswitch posted:I really don't like the fact they buffed Tahm Kench. I know it's the Riot Maneuver when something doesn't immediately rock onto the scene it needs more buffs but I really, really think he didn't need it. Did they ever get around to saying what lane he was meant to be in? He desperately needed buffs.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:08
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Just in case anyone doubted that the nerfs would dumpster Ryze, he's now sporting a 42.6% winrate top and a sick 36.3% mid. Truly The Greatest Patch
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Jul 24, 2015 16:09
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Flipswitch posted:I'm a stupid idiot and I play stupid idiot champs so I can confirm that last statement as well. He was worse then release bard and needed a buff, he will still remain poo poo after that buff. rafq posted:Just in case anyone doubted that the nerfs would dumpster Ryze, he's now sporting a 42.6% winrate top and a sick 36.3% mid. Every single time.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:11
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For the Graves icon do you need 20 kills in 1 game? As a jungle/support main, whyyyy.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:11
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:For the Graves icon do you need 20 kills in 1 game? As a jungle/support main, whyyyy. Not in one game. Over as many games as you need. Same for the other challenges; the second Graves challenge has 500 minion kills, among other things. I highly doubt they expect you to get them all done in one game (though I did manage 16/20 in a single game for my first Graves challenge).
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Jul 24, 2015 16:14
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Roland Jones posted:Not in one game. Over as many games as you need. Same for the other challenges; the second Graves challenge has 500 minion kills, among other things. I highly doubt they expect you to get them all done in one game (though I did manage 16/20 in a single game for my first Graves challenge). Mines still at 0. Does aram not count then?
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Jul 24, 2015 16:17
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ARAM counts, but sometimes it takes a while to load. Also you have to do the challenges in order.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:20
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Mines still at 0. Does aram not count then? I did TF and not graves, but if the 20 kills is the second part of the quest, you need to do the first part.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:22
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Mines still at 0. Does aram not count then? As people have said, after you complete the first challenge, then you can work on the second. So at minimum you'll need to take two games to do it. Probably will require more though.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:24
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Is there anyone besides Ryze where they have routinely taken off 40 damage from a <4 second cooldown spell?
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Jul 24, 2015 16:27
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I did. I won an aram as j4 then played another one today as Annie and got like 6 kills and 20 assists and its at 0/20
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Jul 24, 2015 16:31
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Is there anyone besides Ryze where they have routinely taken off 40 damage from a <4 second cooldown spell? Closest I can think of is Eve Q: 4.13 MAGIC DAMAGE 40/60/80/100/120 ⇒ 30/45/60/75/90 5.7 DAMAGE 30/45/60/75/90 ⇒ 40/55/70/85/100 5.14 DAMAGE 40/55/70/85/100 ⇒ 40/50/60/70/80 The changes make sense when you look at the changes in itemization, but they look pretty funny out of context rafq fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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Jul 24, 2015 16:38
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rafq posted:Just in case anyone doubted that the nerfs would dumpster Ryze, he's now sporting a 42.6% winrate top and a sick 36.3% mid. league of legends design philosophy is just "gently caress you ryze"
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Jul 24, 2015 16:51
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pog boyfriend posted:league of legends design philosophy is just "gently caress you ryze" Who will Ryze?
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Jul 24, 2015 16:56
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Wait none of the games i've played today are in my match history thats why its not counting the gently caress?
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Jul 24, 2015 17:35
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welcome to the twilight zone
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Jul 24, 2015 17:51
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the fluff pieces for the Bilgewater event are actually pretty decent. I wasn't expecting literary genius anyway, but the rewritten lore actually adds interactions between the Bilgewater characters and portrays their personalities better, even if it still doesn't loving explain why Graves hates TF.
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Jul 24, 2015 18:10
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fnox posted:the fluff pieces for the Bilgewater event are actually pretty decent. I wasn't expecting literary genius anyway, but the rewritten lore actually adds interactions between the Bilgewater characters and portrays their personalities better, even if it still doesn't loving explain why Graves hates TF. twisted fate had anal sex with graves fiancee and she dumped him for tf but then tf dumped her and she moved to seattle
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Jul 24, 2015 18:13
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pog boyfriend posted:twisted fate had anal sex with graves fiancee and she dumped him for tf but then tf dumped her and she moved to seattle High Noon Twisted Fate always has a backdoor escape planned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos
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fnox posted:the fluff pieces for the Bilgewater event are actually pretty decent. I wasn't expecting literary genius anyway, but the rewritten lore actually adds interactions between the Bilgewater characters and portrays their personalities better, even if it still doesn't loving explain why Graves hates TF. A job went south, Graves got captured and tortured for years, and TF got away. What exactly happened on the job isn't clear, but Graves is convinced TF sold him out. I also remember reading somewhere that what happened was that TF did actually sell Graves out, and his payment was to get in on the experiment that wound up giving him the ability to use magic.
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