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srb
Jul 24, 2007

Descar posted:

There's no A45's on EU server, this makes me sad :(

It should, they are fun targets to shoot at.

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Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Missing Name posted:

Remember: The World Cup loss was as devastating to Brazil as terrorist attacks in America


lmao you have no loving idea about the mental state of Brazillians during that game.

Grown rear end 50 year old men who were chanting and dancing all day long reduced to a puddle of tears, gasping for air each time the Germans scored yet again.

People praising David Luiz as one of the best defenders of the world and then Sideshow Bob doing what he did.

Julio Cesar being an old but extremely experienced goalkeeper and getting such a beatdown that he ballooned his weight like crazy and needed psychiatric help to gain confidence to go back to the net.

Brazillians cried more about the loss than they cried about the military dictatorship.

Ensign Expendable posted:

I made a diorama of pubbies driving a tank.



More pictures
I am legit jealous of your talent :(

Fat Jesus
Jul 13, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2023


Missing Name posted:

Remember: The World Cup loss was as devastating to Brazil as terrorist attacks in America



Also remind them Prost was better than Senna.

subhelios
May 26, 2013

Unfortunately, there is no such game as 'World of Submarines.'

srb posted:

That's a nice Pz 1 diorama!

And re: A45s, I did see one get top damage on the enemy team but that was mostly because he hid and sniped at me and kaiserschnitzel for a while and we had to push in on him and kill him, his actions contributed nothing to try and help the team win.

But at least it's not the trio of A45s we saw climb up on the mountain next to the little lake and the middle entrance on Fjords. They just sat there and got slaughtered for some reason.

Ahaha yeah that was loving hilarious. Best part of that match for certain.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
What's in a name?

How do you give a codename to an operation? Winston Churchill had a very sober opinion on this topic. For example, one must not brag too much, like "Operation Victorious", but a name like "Slaughter" or "Confusion" will demoralize your own soldiers. Definitely avoid strange and unpleasant names like "Street Brawl". One must also maintain secrecy and not reveal the nature of the operation in the name.

How did the two biggest combatants in WWII, Germany and the USSR, follow these principles? What names did they give to their plans?

Germany: Colours, Mythology, Fanfare

In WWI, Germany created a tradition of taking names from religion, mythology, or medieval history. Names like "Saint Michael", "Achilles", and "Roland" were supposed to raise morale of an army fighting a difficult war. These names are also pretty solid from the point of view of secrecy.

In WWII, the Germans kept their tradition of big and bold names. The attack on the USSR, originally codenamed "Fritz" after the son of one of the planners was renamed to "Barbarossa". Did Hitler think about how naming a military campaign after an emperor that spent a lot of time fighting with Slavs might give away the nature of the operation? Any spy that discovered the name of the operation wouldn't have to think much to find out who it's aimed against.

Interestingly, earlier German operations had much more humble and neutral names. For instance, a set of "coloured" plans to occupy Europe. The annexation of Czechoslovakia was "Green", invasion of Poland was "White". The attack on Benelux states and France in 1940 was named "Yellow". An offensive in the south-west USSR in 1942 was named "Blue". These names revealed nothing about who the operation was aimed against or where action would take place.

The Germans repeated their mistake of associating the name with the location. An offensive aimed at the Kola peninsula from Finland was named "Arctic Fox", the capture of nickel mines near Murmansk was named "Reindeer", a plan to drop paratroops on the Caucasian city of Maikop was named "Shamil", after a leader of the mountain men.

At the same time, the Germans also had misleading names. For instance, an offensive in the Ardennes in 1944 was called "Watch on the Rhine", an invasion of Denmark and Norway was called "Weser Exercise". The famous "Operation Citadel", the summer offensive against the Kursk Salient in 1943, also falls in this category. Its defensive name turned into a double failure: not only did the Germans fail to regain initiative, but suffered a costly defeat.

USSR: Planets and Commanders

At the start of the Great Patriotic War, the Soviet commanders had little time to come up with names for obvious reasons. By the end of 1942, this changed.

Operation Uranus was one of the famous ones, the defeat of Germans at Stalingrad. Famous Soviet intelligence worker Pavel Sudoplatov writes in his memoirs that People's Commisssar of Defense Vannikov described to him Stalin's meeting with Soviet scientists in October of 1942 and discussions of a nuclear bomb. Stalin was so impressed that he decided to call the offensive the name of its main component [Uranium and Uranus are the same word in Russian, "Uran"].

One must then ask what chemical elements resulted in the names of "Mars" (Kalinin Front offensive against the German 9th Army between Rzhev and Sychevka) and "Saturn" (breakthrough to Rostov and Taganrog, cutting off a German group in the Caucasus)? It is more likely that Soviet commanders were inspired by astronomy rather than chemistry, and Sudoplatov was mistaken.

American historian David Glantz wrote about "Operation Jupiter" that was allegedly designed to defeat the Germans at Vyazma. However, latest research shows that there was no such operation, and the forces that were supposed to take part in it were fighting in other places. The ambitious "Saturn" mentioned above was also corrected down to "Small Saturn", a much more humble offensive at the Don river.

Soviet strategists aimed no less than others to maintain secrecy of their operations. The liberation of North Donbass was given a meek title "Hop", the penetration of the Leningrad blockade carried the name "Spark".

After heavy fighting in the first half of the war, it was considered necessary to lift the spirits of troops, remind them of their army's glorious history, and show that the enemy can be beaten not only when defending, but when attacking. In 1943 and 1944, names of famous commanders were given to operations. "Polkovodets Rumyantsev" that defeated Prussian forces in the Seven Year War liberated Belgorod and Kharkov, "Polkovodets Kutuzov" liberated Orel, Mtsensk, and many other cities. Of course, "Bagration" became the crowning jewel of this series, after which Army Group Center was shattered into pieces. None of these names give a hint to where the attack will take place.

The Red Army's greatest battle, the assault on Berlin, had no name. This is yet another confirmation of the fact that you can't win a war with a name, but giving a good name to an operation is still an art.

Mans posted:

I am legit jealous of your talent :(

Then don't go to the miniatures thread, there are people there that make me look like a finger painting kindergartener.

kemikalkadet
Sep 16, 2012

:woof:

Ensign Expendable posted:


Then don't go to the miniatures thread, there are people there that make me look like a finger painting kindergartener.

I like to lurk that thread because I want to make models again but don't have the space/time/money to. I made an Airfix tiger II earlier in the year because I was off work sick for a week and needed something to focus on, it was a starter set that came with paints and glue so I could give it some rudimentary camo but nothing compared to the paintjobs in that thread. Maybe after my degree I'll get a place with enough space for a hobby room for modelling and my instruments.

Also just had my first game on new swamp... they made this map good now?

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

Mans posted:

lmao you have no loving idea about the mental state of Brazillians during that game.

Grown rear end 50 year old men who were chanting and dancing all day long reduced to a puddle of tears, gasping for air each time the Germans scored yet again.

People praising David Luiz as one of the best defenders of the world and then Sideshow Bob doing what he did.

Julio Cesar being an old but extremely experienced goalkeeper and getting such a beatdown that he ballooned his weight like crazy and needed psychiatric help to gain confidence to go back to the net.

Brazillians cried more about the loss than they cried about the military dictatorship.


Yeah, losing a football game is totally on a similar level to losing thousands of people in a coordinated terrorist attack.

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe
Played in that tournament yesterday... our team won 8 games out of 14 (or whatever the numbers are). Looks like only 1 team leaves each group?

Anyway, here's a nice high quality vid of a match. My voice isn't in it because of settings I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx25cWhfZ7M

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



JohnGalt posted:

I didn't realize that we did that well last night? I felt I was playing like poo poo.

No, you were doing very well, you were usually at the top in all the games we played. I was playing like poo poo, on the other hand.

Best part of that night was the line (paraphrased): "Oh so you're not the real Hellsau? I guess that makes sense, you seem a lot more chill than the Hellsau guy who posts in the thread." The cherry on top being, of course, that Hellsau is literally Chillsau in-game. :3:

frood posted:

In all fairness this is months old, I was calling him Heilsau when he was advocating krupp steel to some newb.

Hmm, well even if you're right, the name is still unclaimed so now that we're talking about it [again] someone had better take it before Tioga does.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

unlawfulsoup posted:

Yeah, losing a football game is totally on a similar level to losing thousands of people in a coordinated terrorist attack.

Well they're pretty similar - Brazil deserved 7-1.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Hellsau posted:

Well they're pretty similar - Brazil deserved 7-1.

7-1 Nevar Forget

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!
Someone else can change their name to Heilsau and you can do a sau-toon.

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


One of the best things to come out of all that:

quote:

Pornographic website Pornhub asked its users to stop uploading video footage of the game to the website after several such videos were uploaded with titles indicating that they depicted a sex act involving Brazilians dominated by Germans

Do you think they'll still be sore about it until the next cup in 2018? Because I've seen no decrease in outrage every time I mention it. WoT isn't even about soccer football, except for that one time it was during the cup itself.

Missing Name fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jul 26, 2015

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT
Brazil losing the final in the 1950 World Cup traumatized them so badly, that one person killed himself and 3 others died from heart attack at the stadium after the loss, and they compared the trauma to Hiroshima. The coach got away from the stadium dressed as a woman and the poor goal keeper became person non grata and for perpetuity banned from meeting any member of Brazilian national football teams.

The Brazilians are nuts. :v:

Rincewinds fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jul 26, 2015

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE
Got the AMX CDC from the silly rental mission, took it out for a spin, got oneshot by arty less than ten seconds after getting spotted for the first time. Don't think I'll play it again. It's the FCM with even less armor and non-preferential matchmaking anyway, and the FCM is poo poo already.

TheFluff fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Jul 26, 2015

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013




:sterv:

Steelion
Aug 2, 2009
They need to stop teasing us and just release the tanks already :v:

Lookit all them rivets :allears:

srb
Jul 24, 2007
I'm more impressed with the design of the commander's view slits. Just how.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

srb posted:

I'm more impressed with the design of the commander's view slits. Just how.

Fat Jesus
Jul 13, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2023


Missing Name posted:

One of the best things to come out of all that:
http://i.imgur.com/Mqr2rXR.png

Jack_tripper
Jun 7, 2009

Hellsau posted:

Well they're pretty similar - Brazil deserved 7-1.

jet fuel can't score goals

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
I'm so confused, is Fifa coming up or something?

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

TheFluff posted:

Got the AMX CDC from the silly rental mission, took it out for a spin, got oneshot by arty less than ten seconds after getting spotted for the first time. Don't think I'll play it again. It's the FCM with even less armor and non-preferential matchmaking anyway, and the FCM is poo poo already.

The CDC is incredible for tier 8 strongholds because you get to farm damage by outrunning your clanmates in IS-5s or whatever. I have no idea why you would ever play it in a pub match.

Also the CDC is pretty clearly the second best tier 8 medium besides the Obj 416. Fast, great pen, good damage output, adequate gun handling, and even if you're getting shot in the face at least it doesn't have rack issues in the turret face. God help you if someone has your front drivewheel though.

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


Agrajag posted:

I'm so confused, is Fifa coming up or something?

in 3 years, but they're already worked up about it, while also being pissed off at last year. It's prime for trolling.

Jack_tripper
Jun 7, 2009

Hellsau posted:

Also the CDC is pretty clearly the second best tier 8 medium besides the Obj 416. Fast, great pen, good damage output, adequate gun handling, and even if you're getting shot in the face at least it doesn't have rack issues in the turret face. God help you if someone has your front drivewheel though.

you neglected to mention its fantastic depression; it's like a supercomet

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Jack_tripper posted:

you neglected to mention its fantastic depression; it's like a supercomet

That I did! The depression is so ludicrous that you can get shots from places that seem impossible, and that fact also reduces your turret's profile since you get to peek over and fire while exposing just a small dot to the enemy. God help anyone fighting a hull down CDC from a distance without a zoom-in mod.

Oh also the CDC carries enough ammo that you can afford to have some HE for enemy CDCs and never risk running out of ammo. I really appreciate a tank that can kill literally all 15 enemy tanks if forced to.

Desuwa
Jun 2, 2011

I'm telling my mommy. That pubbie doesn't do video games right!

Hellsau posted:

I really appreciate a tank that can kill literally all 15 enemy tanks if forced to.

With average rolls or better the WTE with the 150mm has exactly enough ammunition to kill 15 Mauses.

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


See, Caern ain't a bad tank*




* against other eights

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
I hate the NA playerbase for preventing the sale of the M6A2E1.

DonkeyHotay
Jun 6, 2005

BTW, people that actually listen to hellsau... If you aren't burning through at least 6 he rounds a game in a conq you are playing it wrong.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

DonkeyHotay posted:

people that actually listen to hellsau...

lololol, pretty sure if you do this your clan spontaneously implodes.

Agrajag fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Jul 27, 2015

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

Agrajag posted:

I hate the NA playerbase for preventing the sale of the M6A2E1.

It is good, but it is no Type 59.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



srb posted:

I'm more impressed with the design of the commander's view slits. Just how.

Yeah, I thought their eyes were slanted horizontally, not vertically? :confused:

:downsrim:

unlawfulsoup posted:

It is good, but it is no Type 59.

:drat:

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort


:stonk:
We lost like 3-15


Atomizer posted:

Yeah, I thought their eyes were slanted horizontally, not vertically? :confused:

:downsrim:
:golfclap:



In other news, I have now been invited to [-GSC-], [ZEUS], and like 3 other random rear end poo poo clans. I love how my legacy stats make people want me :iamafag:

celewign
Jul 11, 2015

just get us in the playoffs
holy smokes that new british tank is a real piece of poo but im so tired of people firing gold in it... 150 damage every time just clicking, no aiming. lame.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

How do you scout the mid lane on Lakeville? I can never seem to get a good position.

DonkeyHotay
Jun 6, 2005

CODChimera posted:

How do you scout the mid lane on Lakeville? I can never seem to get a good position.

it's basically luck

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

CODChimera posted:

How do you scout the mid lane on Lakeville? I can never seem to get a good position.

You need good teammates or platoonmates that are able to shoot the enemies and prevent them from just sitting stationary in the open, waiting for a shot on you. If your idiots in the middle refuse to move up at all and attempt to shoot the spotted enemies sitting stationary on the west side of the city, or your dudes in the southeast refuse to shoot the spotted enemy tanks in the middle, you die. If your team is competent, and the enemy team is incompetent, you'll rack up a boatload of spotting and shooting damage. If your team is incompetent and the enemy team is competent, you die without doing anything and your team loses. If both teams are competent, there's a good chance both team's middle stuff dies, but what are the odds that there's more than two or three decent players on both teams at the same time? Pretty low.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

So the UK version of the Lee, the Grant wasn't a horrible grind, although hardly a keeper.
But then again it is tier4, where you can sealclub by being a merely competent player.
I ran it with the 6pdr for the higher pen and a 1.92 s reload, which allows you to just melt tanks if you can focus them.

First game in it I faced a sealclubbing, goldslinging B2 and just melted him.
Last game in it I got Ace and 5 kills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVac2pD0Juo
If it only saw tier4 it would be OP as gently caress, but since it sees KV-1 on a regular basis, it is obviously not.

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mmkay
Oct 21, 2010

Cardiac posted:

So the UK version of the Lee, the Grant wasn't a horrible grind, although hardly a keeper.
But then again it is tier4, where you can sealclub by being a merely competent player.
I ran it with the 6pdr for the higher pen and a 1.92 s reload, which allows you to just melt tanks if you can focus them.

First game in it I faced a sealclubbing, goldslinging B2 and just melted him.
Last game in it I got Ace and 5 kills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVac2pD0Juo
If it only saw tier4 it would be OP as gently caress, but since it sees KV-1 on a regular basis, it is obviously not.

The B2 has a couple of problematic tanks when sealclubbing, and surprisingly a Lee/Grant can be one of them.

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