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Egbert Souse posted:Making "The Shining" Poor Shelley Duvall.
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Mescal posted:I'm trying to think up a list of movies with the theme of "how real is this poo poo?" More along the lines of F for Fake than Exit Through the Gift Shop. I can't come up with anything though... any help? Matrix, Inception, Birdman, ...?
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Jul 26, 2015 19:02
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effectual posted:Matrix, Inception, Birdman, ...? Sorry, I wasn't completely clear. I'm talking layers of fiction, with the top layer being the movie's narrative. Like "we've been telling you the truth behind the story, but this movie is also a fiction, and we've been lying to you too, but how much?" Something along the lines of a making-of doc about a reality show, but doc itself is manipulated and scripted...
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Mescal posted:Sorry, I wasn't completely clear. I'm talking layers of fiction, with the top layer being the movie's narrative. Like "we've been telling you the truth behind the story, but this movie is also a fiction, and we've been lying to you too, but how much?" Something along the lines of a making-of doc about a reality show, but doc itself is manipulated and scripted... The documentary The Imposter is about a mentally ill con artist name Frédéric Bourdin who convinced a family that he was their son who had been abducted years before and was assumed dead. However, the entire third act of the film is about Frederic eagerly convincing the documentary crew and everybody else involved in the case that the missing child's parents had murdered him and even leading investigators to the plot where he believed the body had been buried. It becomes this weird meta-commentary on lies being more attractive than the truth and how people will get swept up in a narrative even when they know the person they're talking to is a liar and a con man, and you never really know if the people making the movie get it or if they're just as swept up by Frederic as everybody else.
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Mescal posted:Sorry, I wasn't completely clear. I'm talking layers of fiction, with the top layer being the movie's narrative. Like "we've been telling you the truth behind the story, but this movie is also a fiction, and we've been lying to you too, but how much?" Something along the lines of a making-of doc about a reality show, but doc itself is manipulated and scripted... So like meta, 4-th wall stuff? Scream, Funny Games?
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effectual posted:So like meta, 4-th wall stuff? Scream, Funny Games? I think he specifically means documentaries, i.e films that are supposedly non-fiction. Speaking of which, the narrative of the film Nanook of the North doesn't have any metafictional stuff, but about 90% of it is fictionalized. Watch it, then read up on it.
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Sleeveless posted:The documentary The Imposter is about a mentally ill con artist name Frédéric Bourdin who convinced a family that he was their son who had been abducted years before and was assumed dead. However, the entire third act of the film is about Frederic eagerly convincing the documentary crew and everybody else involved in the case that the missing child's parents had murdered him and even leading investigators to the plot where he believed the body had been buried. It becomes this weird meta-commentary on lies being more attractive than the truth and how people will get swept up in a narrative even when they know the person they're talking to is a liar and a con man, and you never really know if the people making the movie get it or if they're just as swept up by Frederic as everybody else. Bingo!
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Symbiopsychotaxiplasm would fit what you're looking for too.
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Mescal posted:Sorry, I wasn't completely clear. I'm talking layers of fiction, with the top layer being the movie's narrative. Like "we've been telling you the truth behind the story, but this movie is also a fiction, and we've been lying to you too, but how much?" Something along the lines of a making-of doc about a reality show, but doc itself is manipulated and scripted... I'm not sure if I'm totally understanding, but 20,000 Days on Earth might be in this direction -- it presents itself as a documentary that depicts a fictionalized day in the life of Nick Cave, and while some of it is very authentic (it features the first time Cave and Blixa Bargeld met since Bargeld quit the band via email in 2003), some of it is very fictional (Warren Ellis tells Cave a story about Nina Simone, and while it's shown as the first time Cave's heard it, Ellis has been telling that story for decades) -- and the movie never really says what's what.
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Hat Thoughts posted:Symbiopsychotaxiplasm would fit what you're looking for too. Chronique d'un Ete does the whole subjects of a film discussing their appearance thing as well.
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Jul 26, 2015 23:20
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Hat Thoughts posted:Symbiopsychotaxiplasm would fit what you're looking for too. Wow, how have I never heard of this? It sounds like a maxed-out example of I was looking for. Layers upon layers.
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Forgotten Silver was sort of a "prank" documentary, some viewers were upset when it turned out to be fake.
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So it seems somewhat plausible that The Legend of Conan will be made, once again starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. This seems like a unique situation - despite a reboot happening in 2011, the next movie will (presumably) go back to the original continuity. Has that ever happened before?
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david_a posted:So it seems somewhat plausible that The Legend of Conan will be made, once again starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. This seems like a unique situation - despite a reboot happening in 2011, the next movie will (presumably) go back to the original continuity. Has that ever happened before? Like two weeks ago, with the same actor
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david_a posted:So it seems somewhat plausible that The Legend of Conan will be made, once again starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. This seems like a unique situation - despite a reboot happening in 2011, the next movie will (presumably) go back to the original continuity. Has that ever happened before? No reboot inbetween, but Superman Returns was a straight sequel to Superman 2, ignoring 3 and 4. Edit: morestuff posted:Like two weeks ago, with the same actor
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morestuff posted:Like two weeks ago, with the same actor Skwirl posted:No reboot inbetween, but Superman Returns was a straight sequel to Superman 2, ignoring 3 and 4.
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morestuff posted:Like two weeks ago, with the same actor Genisys shat all over all continuity just to explain why Old Arnold exists. It was a fun movie and totally worth watching but it had nothing to do with the original continuity after the first 8 minutes.
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effectual posted:Never Say Never Again
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david_a posted:So it seems somewhat plausible that The Legend of Conan will be made, once again starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. This seems like a unique situation - despite a reboot happening in 2011, the next movie will (presumably) go back to the original continuity. Has that ever happened before?
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Mescal posted:Sorry, I wasn't completely clear. I'm talking layers of fiction, with the top layer being the movie's narrative. Like "we've been telling you the truth behind the story, but this movie is also a fiction, and we've been lying to you too, but how much?" Something along the lines of a making-of doc about a reality show, but doc itself is manipulated and scripted... Does something like Series 7: The Contender count? It's a fake reality game show where the contestants are supposed to murder each other, but some of it gets interrupted with fake 'reenactments' where they have different actors playing the in-universe fictionalised versions of the contestants. It's not the greatest film but it's fairly funny and unique.
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Skwirl posted:No reboot inbetween, but Superman Returns was a straight sequel to Superman 2, ignoring 3 and 4. Why is it that Lois Lane in Returns doesn't know Clark Kent is Superman? She figured it out in the second film.
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Sand Monster posted:Why is it that Lois Lane in Returns doesn't know Clark Kent is Superman? She figured it out in the second film. Superman Returns is supposed to follow the Donner Cut. So, he undid her finding out, but they sleep with each other sometime after the events of that movie.
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Sympathy for Lady Vengeance: I missed how the creepy dude with the goofy haircut who waits for Geum-ja outside the prison is connected to her. There was the scene of him apparently becoming infatuated with her from the TV coverage, but I didn't catch how Geum-ja was using him while in prison. I also didn't understand how he ended up talking to Mr Baek - how would he have known about Baek's connection to Geum-ja? Was he being paid by Baek all along?
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david_a posted:So it seems somewhat plausible that The Legend of Conan will be made, once again starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. This seems like a unique situation - despite a reboot happening in 2011, the next movie will (presumably) go back to the original continuity. Has that ever happened before? Land of the Dead picked up after Day of the Dead after both Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead had each received unrelated remakes! Texas Chainsaw presented itself as a direct sequel to the original Texas Chain Saw Massacre from 1974 (bypassing 3 other sequels), and this was after the 1974 film was remade and spawned a sequel of its own. Similarly, Halloween Returns* is going back to the original timeline (I think the plan is to only reference the original 1978 movie) after the Rob Zombie reboot and its sequel, which followed a sequel that retconned the finale of a prior sequel that completely ignored the 4 sequels preceding it: one of whiched tacked on an implausible explanation of its predecessor's ending, which retconned its own predecessor's "the evil continues with a new killer!" ending, which itself is a kind of soft-retcon of the ending two movies back (of the "oh they managed to survive that seemingly definitive explosion and fire after all" variety) which itself tries to apply an after-the-fact background motivation to the original film.... oh and there was one "sequel" that exists entirely in its own continuity and has nothing to do plotwise with any other Halloween film. *So after Halloween Returns, Halloween Resurrection, "The Revenge" being represented in Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers, I think it's safe to say the Halloween series has the most number of subtitles borrowed from other movies ever! Can't wait for Halloween: Revelations, Halloween: The Next Generation, and Halloween Into Darkness
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Snak posted:Halloween: The Beginning, (Which will be different from) Halloween: Origins. Oh my God yes! And that reminds me: Halloween: The Final Chapter... which is a different movie from Michael Bites the Big One: The Final Halloween, neither of which will be the last Halloween movies.
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david_a posted:So it seems somewhat plausible that The Legend of Conan will be made, once again starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. This seems like a unique situation - despite a reboot happening in 2011, the next movie will (presumably) go back to the original continuity. Has that ever happened before? Neill Blomkamp's Aliens sequel if you count Prometheus as a reboot.
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Ninja Gamer posted:Neill Blomkamp's Aliens sequel if you count Prometheus as a reboot. Prometheus was a prequel not a reboot, otherwise the upcoming Star Wars films would count.
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lizardman posted:Land of the Dead picked up after Day of the Dead after both Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead had each received unrelated remakes! And after a divergent branch of quasi-related sequels. And after a chain of fake European sequels. And after a recut of the original with new footage that suggested the whole zombie apocalypse was God's will. Living Dead continuity is strange, yo.
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How are Japanese movie scripts formatted? Traditionally their writing is vertical and then right-to-left, but I have to imagine that in a format where you're using a lot of line breaks you'd waste a lot of paper.
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Maxwell Lord posted:How are Japanese movie scripts formatted? Traditionally their writing is vertical and then right-to-left, but I have to imagine that in a format where you're using a lot of line breaks you'd waste a lot of paper. This is just from a hasty google but I'm pretty sure the thing on the left is a page from a Miyazaki script: 
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I wasn't sure where to ask, but can someone tell me what I need to know in order to project 8 and 16mm. What are some good brands of projectors? How difficult is loading and playing the film without harming it?
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Dr.Caligari posted:I wasn't sure where to ask, but can someone tell me what I need to know in order to project 8 and 16mm. What are some good brands of projectors? How difficult is loading and playing the film without harming it? But here's a decent guide for 8mm. http://www.ebay.com/gds/How-To-Buy-A-Super-8-Movie-Projector-/10000000001138486/g.html the Elmo 16CL was recommended a lot back in the day, here's a guide for buying one of those: http://www.ebay.com/gds/Before-You-Buy-an-Elmo-16MM-Projector-/10000000014755419/g.html and I remember bell and howell 1592 being recommended a lot as a solid cheap alternative. I don't know why that specific model was recommended as there were a lot of different versions: http://www.paulivester.com/films/projector/bh_models.htm but it looks like you can get one for around $100 on ebay. You'll also need the right lens depending on the size of your room, and a spare bulb or two. And maybe some simple editing equipment to fix breaks and extra leader and spare reels. You really should just buy a nice video projector though.
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I actually acquired a selection of 8mm and a few 16mm films. Most are labeled, some are not. I was just curious as to how hard they would be to watch. I will, probably just sell them as-is, I don't want to risk damaging them or invest alot in equipment that I won't use often.
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You might be able to rent a projector from somewhere. From googling it looks like you can rent a projector for around $50 for a weekend from a bunch of places.
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What's the technique called when there are two different locations are shown at the same time but you don't know which character is at which location until the payoff? I'm thinking of stuff like from The Dark Knight Rachel's death scene and the house raid in Silence of the Lambs.
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Parachute posted:What's the technique called when there are two different locations are shown at the same time but you don't know which character is at which location until the payoff? I'm thinking of stuff like from The Dark Knight Rachel's death scene and the house raid in Silence of the Lambs. cross cuts or parallel editing
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Parachute posted:What's the technique called when there are two different locations are shown at the same time but you don't know which character is at which location until the payoff? I'm thinking of stuff like from The Dark Knight Rachel's death scene and the house raid in Silence of the Lambs. There really isn't a name for this technique as trickery, because it's literally just 'editing' or as the other poster said, parallel editing but playing with expectations. It's the a technique (parallel editing, I mean) used as early as 1903 but instead of setting up two related scenes (a house fire, firemen at the station, etc.) it's two unrelated ones in the examples you gave, but we don't generally expect that when film cross-cuts. You asking this question makes me realize how cool that technique is again though on a conceptual level, and now I'm wondering what the earliest 'subversion of parallel editing' (I guess that'd be the term) was, after its establishment in films like "Life of the American Fireman" (that's the classic example from 1903 I used above). Silence of the Lambs is the one that immediately jumps to mind, but I'm sure there are earlier examples.
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