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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I don't care how long you've lived in the south, if you were born and raised in Chicago you do will never naturally at all sound like she did in that 92 Tammy Wynette interview. From a few back, butI was born and raised in Russia before moving to California, and 99% of the time I have no detectable accent. Catch me exhausted or on the phone with my mom, though, and I sound like a Hollywood take on a Russian mafioso. Habibi fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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aBagorn posted:Ford won the White vote 52-48 And that was back when whites were about 90% of the electorate.
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Feather posted:Obama probably doesn't care if Medicare is privatized. Hell, if his own ACA is any indication, he loves him some privatized insurance. Obama is one of the harshest critics of Paul Ryan's proposal to change Medicare into a voucher system. Speaking of, have any Republicans endorsed the Ryan budget so far this election?
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anime tupac posted:Yeah Rand because we spend soooo much on foreign aid. That doesn't make it a bad idea. There's plenty of useful things that the cash could be spent on here at home. Absurd Alhazred posted:Hey, I may have missed this, but has anybody confronted Trump about the last bit of bullshit Birtherism he came up with, I want to say right about the 2012 elections? Said he had tons of detectives who came up with amazing information in Hawaii, then *crickets*. I'm guess not. Birtherism is considered a dead issue by pretty much anyone important because it's going to be moot in a year anyways.
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Bob Ojeda posted:Carter was a pretty successful farmer, IIRC, and HW Bush made a lot of his money on his own although helped by his family connections. But I think you have to go back to Hoover to get a real self-made business mogul. Der Kyhe posted:Warren G. Harding was a successful (and self-made) businessman before taking politics as his main occupation, does this count? Harry S. Truman also owned a business for a while, but wikipedia doesn't say if it was any success or not. Just wondering if there was a good president who came from business, though it appears not on all accounts. Honestly though I didn't know Carter was successful at anything from the point of birth to the last day of presidency.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Red Son. Also Golden Age Superman 
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Veskit posted:Just wondering if there was a good president who came from business, though it appears not on all accounts. Honestly though I didn't know Carter was successful at anything from the point of birth to the last day of presidency. Carter owned / owns (Truman's business wasn't successful at all, for reference)
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Veskit posted:Just wondering if there was a good president who came from business, though it appears not on all accounts. Honestly though I didn't know Carter was successful at anything from the point of birth to the last day of presidency. Carter was amazing. You take that back. edit: He also IS still amazing. silicone thrills fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Tigntink posted:Carter was amazing. You take that back. Make me and or convince me Bob Ojeda posted:Carter owned / owns So it's been over a century since... Cool to know.
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Tigntink posted:Carter was amazing. You take that back. yeah, amazingly poo poo  *snickers all the way to the Politburo*
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Veskit posted:Make me and or convince me Carter started off his presidency by pardoning everyone who draft dodged. He created the Department of Energy and Education. He even put solar panels on top of the white house to show support for getting away from foreign oil. He's always been a promoter of new technologys that make our lives better. In his time in Georgia he was aggressively anti segregation. He trolled the KKK by putting up MLK portraits all over the state house. Honestly the only real negative mark on his presidency was the hostage crisis which was obviously extremely fubar'ed up by Reagan. Also Americans really hate being told that they need to get with the loving program and stop being horrible members of earth. Post presidency - The Carter Center does fantastic work to eradicate 3rd world diseases. He is also a big habitat for humanity guy. Carter also negotiated with a madman and got North Korea to let inspectors keep an eye on their atomic program. silicone thrills fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Tigntink posted:Carter was amazing. You take that back. There you go again 
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Der Kyhe posted:Warren G. Harding was a successful (and self-made) businessman before taking politics as his main occupation, does this count? Harry S. Truman also owned a business for a while, but wikipedia doesn't say if it was any success or not.
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Carter's biggest flaw as a president was that he was too much of an optimist. It's the same flaw Obama had for the first 3 years or so. Only hardened realpolitik-understanding cynics are effective executives in this country.
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Tigntink posted:Carter started off his presidency by pardoning everyone who draft dodged. Carter's main issue wasn't anything to do with policy, but, rather, that he brought in an outsider staff that didn't understand the importance of schmoozing the correct people. The Carter administration is the best example of how the electorate can never really escape Establishment Politics.
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Everything I needed to know about carter I learned from king of the hill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze0joPcwyz0
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King of the Hill should be the national anthem.
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Miltank posted:King of the Hill should be the national anthem. god bless the U-S-A god bless the U-S-A god bless the U-S-A god bless god bless god bless the U.S.
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funtax posted:Rorschach was created as a critique of the precise ideology that animates Cruz's political views. He's literally supposed to be the bigoted and insane conclusion of Objectivist philosophy. But, unlike Cruz, he is willing to die for it.
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Trump "food for the soul" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_iL8TtPOt0 It can happen.
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Jesus Christ black conservatives are the saddest, most pitiable demographic ever. Also what the gently caress is Huckabee doing courting labor
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Tigntink posted:Carter started off his presidency by pardoning everyone who draft dodged. And Nixon.
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Alter Ego posted:Jesus Christ black conservatives are the saddest, most pitiable demographic ever. Trying to tack populist, or at least blue-collar, I'd imagine. UrbicaMortis posted:And Nixon. That was Ford.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Trying to tack populist, or at least blue-collar, I'd imagine. Welp, now I look stupid. In my defense, I'm British so my lack of knowledge about the less well known recent US Presidents is somewhat excusable
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Alter Ego posted:Jesus Christ black conservatives are the saddest, most pitiable demographic ever. Has this been posted yet? I don't care, I'm posting it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2tLyqfJd54
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Carter's biggest mistake was allowing Zbigniew Brzezinski's bullshit in Afghanistan. We're still paying for that.
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Has there ever been a time a republican has won a majority of the black vote? I was looking online and found Gallup polls and the closest to majority from a republican president was Reagan at 35%
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Lastgirl posted:pfft, you only hate Ozymandias because he was right and you couldn't admit that he was Accelerationists have something in common with John Galt then; their ideas can only work in fiction. Nenonen posted:Kal-El is an anchor baby! He was snuck across the border and illegally registered as a natural born citizen. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Has there ever been a time a republican has won a majority of the black vote? I think you'd have to go back to pre-Civil Rights for that. I know that during Reconstruction, the south had plenty of black politicians who were all Republican.
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Tigntink posted:Carter started off his presidency by pardoning everyone who draft dodged. He also vetoed the Democratic waters project bill as one of his first acts of President. He had a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and a Speaker who wanted nothing more than to shepherd a Democratic president's legislative agenda through Congress. Instead, Carter vetoed their pork bill. He also appointed a bunch of people that key Senators didn't like and rubbed their faces in it. So I agree with Pups of War but he was lacking self awareness. Carter could have accomplished so much and he chose to antagonize his own party for no good reason other than he wanted to "change the culture" or some stupid bullshit. He might be a good dude and I probably would have voted for him, but the level of failure surrounding him is largely his fault. Everything was in place for him to own, yet he didn't.
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Vienna Circlejerk posted:Carter's biggest mistake was allowing Zbigniew Brzezinski's bullshit in Afghanistan. We're still paying for that. Bill Casey and Reagan are way more to blame for that poo poo. Carter allocated a few hundred thousand bucks for medical and communication supplies to the Mujahideen when the Soviet invasion got going right at the end of his administration. Casey demanded and got cabinet rank and basically got free reign on spending and operations in Afghanistan when Reagan came into office.
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Carter would be remembered more fondly if he didn't fire his entire cabinet after the Great Malaise speech. Despite what people remember, the speech boosted his poll numbers... Then it was resign-a-palooza.
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Hey, Mike Huckabee, want to walk back that statement about Obama triggering Holocaust II: Electric Oven Boogaloo? No? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVeU9sOOfpU
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NEED TOILET PAPER posted:I think you'd have to go back to pre-Civil Rights for that. I know that during Reconstruction, the south had plenty of black politicians who were all Republican. I think the change happened in the late 1940's early 1950's. The black vote gets taken for granted, and their political issues are not a priority, just like the evangelicals in the Republican camp. It's the social version of red states blue states. Being a swing vote, attracts more attention from politicians.
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Enjoy inhaling paint fumes? Jeb! might be the candidate for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-mAkZXzUc
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Bro, do you even know Martin O'Malley? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZsASfgwTVw
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Joementum posted:It's actually impressive how boring he is. Very quickly I thought that was mitt Romney
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