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Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
rumsfeld was even known to appeal to bush's faith as a way of manipulating him

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/may/18/rumsfeld-gq-iraq-bible-quotes-bush

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Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Azathoth posted:

Premillenial Dispensationalists believe that they are literally living in the last days of the world and that horrible poo poo is gonna go down when it ends.

except almost none of them really believe it; they don't base their personal lives around the idea that the world is ending at all, they just like using the cover of crazy religious beliefs as cover for voting and acting like a self-centered rear end in a top hat while acting holier-than-thou

Magrov
Mar 27, 2010

I'm completely lost and have no idea what's going on. I'll be at my bunker.

If you need any diplomatic or mineral stuff just call me. If you plan to nuke India please give me a 5 minute warning to close the windows!


Also Iapetus sucks!

quote:

WARNING: Billpayforcoins.com is a defunct business (self.Bitcoin)
submitted 9 hours ago * by Rassah

TL;DR: BillPayForCoins.com received $1,059.28 from me to pay two credit card bills, and three weeks later have still not paid, nor even replied since the first e-mail two weeks ago.

I heard about billpayforcoins.com, a service that allows you to pay your bills using bitcoin, from various online sources (they conveniently list them here[1] ), and from their interview on Let's Talk Bitcoin[2] . I assumed they were a trustworthy business, or at least a functioning one. Based on their online reputation and interviews I have even unfortunately recommended them myself as a possible way to pay bills using bitcoin. On July 6th I decided to try them for myself, and placed two bill payment orders for two credit cards, scheduled to be paid a week later on July 13th

http://i.imgur.com/zK5vkh0.png [3]

July 13th came around, and there was no payment registered on the cards' websites. I e-mailed their support that same day, and received an answer a few minutes later from Mark V. stating:

"I will need to check with Grant, who handles the payment side of things. He has been out of town for a couple of weeks due to some serious family issue. He indicated that he would be back by now, but he is still in New Jersey. I just texted him to ask on the status, so we will see what he says.

He has a listing of when items were sent by our system, etc. so he knows what went out when - I have no visibility on that myself."

The payments have never gone through, and I have had to schedule payments from my bank manually to avoid late fees. Despite them having a satisfaction guarantee[4] on their website covering up to a $50 late charge, missing a credit card payment would hurt my credit score and cause my credit card rates to go up, which would be way more damaging than just the $50.

Since then, for the last two weeks, I have been sending follow-up emails asking for a status update on July 14th, 15th, and 22ns, as well as contacting them through their web Contact form, reporting issues with both loans, sending them a message through Twitter, and calling them at least twice, both times no one picked up and the call went to voicemail (Google Voice number). My last contact, sent to both Mark and the Admin, warned them to please get in touch with me, otherwise I would go public with this.

I feel that I have done as much as I could to get in touch with them, and have given them plenty of time to get back to me or resolve the issue. At this point, with a complete lack of contact, I feel as if the business is pretty much defunct and no longer functional, with just the website running unattended, accepting bitcoin, and no one doing anything with it once it's received. So, I'm letting other users be aware, PLEASE do not use this service until their issues are resolved. At best they are completely unattentive and busy elsewhere, and at worst it's another scam. In my experience, when it looks like it could be either malicious intent, or gross incompetence, it's usually gross incompetence. I suspect it's the same here. But the end result is the same: their service does not work, and my $1059 is now stuck in limbo.

[–]billpayforcoins 1 point an hour ago

First let us start by apologizing for the massive delay. There is no excuse but there is a reason and you deserve to know what happened. The next thing we need to tell you is that we have been working hard (Successfully) to either refund our customers or process payments through other means (More on that later) to Part of the issue recently is that the main person that processes payments was out for nearly a month dealing with some serious family issues.. Technical issues followed which did not allow us access to some key components of the website.. But these have been the least of our problems... and if it wasn't such a difficult and troubling issue this last part would be an interesting conversation piece... When we established the business we made it a point to speak directly to the Bank, explain the business in detail, delivery all of our paperwork and make ourselves available from Day one for any questions that they had. We did this so that we would not have issues with the Bank especially given the fact that we are a bitcoin business.

So.. what was the problem?: Despite a through and detailed explanation of our business with people at the highest level at each of these banks and despite the fact that they opened our accounts and approved our business.. within months Bank after Bank closed our accounts without warning, held the funds until they got around to cutting checks back to us (which is odd because once they closed the accounts we no longer had a bank to deposit into), and stopped or ignored payments that we made on behalf of our customers. The first time that this happened we wrote a mass email to customers advising them that we had this issue and that we had found a replacement bank. We did the same thing the second time, and we notified customers the third time. The person that oversees payment processing being out certainly did not help this most recent time. We have opened a new bank account but given the experience that we have had so many times we have continued to process refunds back to customers and process payments using alternative means. We want to leave it to you as to how you would like to proceed. Your Bitcoin is Safe.If you would like us to process a full refund please email us at admin@billpayforcoins.com[1] . Please include your Bitcoin address in the subject line. We have also made ourselves available to speak with customers, so if you would like to speak with us feel free to reach out.

Again we apologize deeply for all of the confusion.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Based on their online reputation and interviews I have even unfortunately recommended them myself as a possible way to pay bills using bitcoin. On July 6th I decided to try them for myself,



BITCOIN!

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



[–]billpayforcoins 1 point an hour ago

First let us start by apologizing for the massive delay. There is no excuse but there is a reason and you deserve to know what happened. We are grossly incompetent and also another scam.

Cyberbird
Jul 18, 2015

Your Bitcoin is Safe™.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Magrov posted:

TL;DR: BillPayForCoins.com received $1,059.28 from me to pay two credit card bills,
i'm sure he actually means he sent them buttcoins, but it's not outside the realm of possibility that he send them dollars, which were then converted into buttcoins, which were then converted into dollars again

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
paying bills electronically as if you were in a civilised country - but with bitcoin

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

:eyepop:

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
oh i just realised who wrote that post:five:

Underwear
May 13, 2006

bobbilljim posted:

laundering money electronically as if you were in a civilised country - but with bitcoin

ftfy

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Boxturret posted:

oh i just realised who wrote that post:five:

Magrov
Mar 27, 2010

I'm completely lost and have no idea what's going on. I'll be at my bunker.

If you need any diplomatic or mineral stuff just call me. If you plan to nuke India please give me a 5 minute warning to close the windows!


Also Iapetus sucks!

you can't use that to launder money because there's a $9,000 daily limit, and everybody knows that it's only money laundering if it's above $10,000

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
rassah is the bitcoin poster child, even moreso than logansryche, because rassah appears to have money to spare so he can actually make bad decisions instead of merely dreaming of them

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Heresiarch posted:

rassah is the bitcoin poster child, even moreso than logansryche, because rassah appears to have money to spare so he can actually make bad decisions instead of merely dreaming of them

If I had my way I'd confiscate all rassahs wealth and give it to Logansryche.

Maybe as some sort of scaled monthly payment so no one can trick him too hard

Dex
May 26, 2006

Quintuple x!!!

Would not escrow again.

VERY MISLEADING!

Heresiarch posted:

rassah is the bitcoin poster child, even moreso than logansryche, because rassah appears to have money to spare so he can actually make bad decisions instead of merely dreaming of them

his husband makes money iirc, i vaguely remember rassah crowing about how stealing 5k from their shared bank account to buy butts was actually really, really cool and good

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
rassah is cool, anybody who stores socks in his briefs is a.ok with me. here is proof:



kuddlkat_and_Rassah.jpg

trucutru fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Jul 28, 2015

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

surebet posted:

look at this urotypical oppressing my special needs piss

ikr

die cispiss scum

Boxturret posted:

oh i just realised who wrote that post:five:

brb bidding on repossessed dog dick coffee table

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

trucutru posted:

rassah is cool, anybody who stores socks in his briefs is a.ok with me. here is proof:



kuddlkat_and_Rassah.jpg

I'm the ... I'm not in this picture

Dex
May 26, 2006

Quintuple x!!!

Would not escrow again.

VERY MISLEADING!

Soricidus posted:

I'm the ... I'm not in this picture

actually, you are

poik007
Aug 16, 2006
Thinks Mother 3 is the best game ever
im the sun

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Dex posted:

actually, you are

gently caress :(

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
i'm the nipple count + location

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

avatar
specialist


the green one's monster cock is bad, the blue one's apparently dislocated shoulder is worse, the dead stares of the pair who aren't even looking at each other is hilarious

also that drawing probably cost a fair sum of money

Erenthal
Jan 1, 2008

A relaxing walk in the woods
Grimey Drawer

surebet posted:

the green one's monster cock is bad, the blue one's apparently dislocated shoulder is worse, the dead stares of the pair who aren't even looking at each other is hilarious

also that drawing probably cost a fair sum of money

you could prolly make a killing with just basic art skills drawing commissions for furries, since they seem to have no grasp of either monetary value nor quality of art

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

avatar
specialist


Erenthal posted:

you could prolly make a killing with just basic art skills drawing commissions for furries, since they seem to have no grasp of either monetary value nor quality of art

my very basic and mostly involuntary knowledge of the furry community tells me that you've just stumbled onto a tried and true business model

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

jony ive aces posted:

yeah no poo poo
Well duh it's piss. Try to keep up.

yospiss bitch

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


A friend of my brother paid his way through art school by drawing "erotic art" on commission.

It is a tried and true business model. The only cost is your dignity but at least, given a modicum of care and the wonders of the internet, not your good name.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

trucutru posted:

like, i found the rain one particularly funny because, at least where i am from, that would be the expected thing to do for any young dude.

not only that, but once one person goes, you all are honor bound to follow. there's no loving way anyone hiding under an awning from some rain would be allowed in the car. you don't wait there for me to drive 50 feet and pick you up unless you want to walk home

anthonypants posted:

also agenda 21 means they're going to take over the usa and institute socalesm

surfs up brah

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon

oh magog

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I'magog

poik007
Aug 16, 2006
Thinks Mother 3 is the best game ever

surebet posted:

my very basic and mostly involuntary knowledge of the furry community tells me that you've just stumbled onto a tried and true business model

...but with bitcions!

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


depending on furry art money seems like a safer option than investing in bitcoin

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

indigi posted:

not only that, but once one person goes, you all are honor bound to follow. there's no loving way anyone hiding under an awning from some rain would be allowed in the car. you don't wait there for me to drive 50 feet and pick you up unless you want to walk home
you're mean

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I ain't no bitch

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

indigi posted:

not only that, but once one person goes, you all are honor bound to follow. there's no loving way anyone hiding under an awning from some rain would be allowed in the car. you don't wait there for me to drive 50 feet and pick you up unless you want to walk home

there is a vaguely defined yet instantly recognizable pecking order, it goes like this:

is there a guy is trying to get into some girl's pants? he's the one getting wet.
......
a million other cases
......
your mom.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

indigi posted:

I ain't no bitch

you would deny a hero, like ross ulbricht, his moment of glory

did you know? he once gave a girl a coat when she was cold, truly he was gandhi jesus

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

trucutru posted:

there is a vaguely defined yet instantly recognizable pecking order, it goes like this:

is there a guy is trying to get into some girl's pants? he's the one getting wet.
......
a million other cases
......
your mom.

i agree that your mom is often getting wet

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

trucutru posted:

is there a guy is trying to get into some girl's pants? he's the one getting wet.

oh I didn't know we were considering mixed-gender cases, that fucks everything up. and yeah the guy trying hardest to get laid is taking that walk

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Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

surebet posted:

also that drawing probably cost a fair sum of money
what sum would be fair and what are the chances that the drawing cost it

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