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spacemang_spliff posted:What is your favorite thing about Donald? His willingness to articulate the actual truth and consequences of the policy stances outlined in the official platform of the Republican Party.
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Bernie Sanders wants his supporters to vote for Hillary if and when she gets the nomination. And I don't mean that in the "he'll give her a token endorsement but he doesn't really mean it, guys". The real reason he's in this race is to get Hillary to support his views, and that won't work unless people turn out in both the primary and general.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:36
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JT Jag posted:The real reason he's in this race is to get Hillary to support his views, and that won't work unless people turn out in both the primary and general. No it ain't.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:37
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Joementum posted:I'm voting for Bernie in the primary but not Hillary in the general. Also, I voted against Obama in 2008 and 2012. AMA. Do you prefer to think of yourself as Squirmin' for Vermin or jumping onboard the Supreme... trireme? That one fell apart.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:38
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True socialists hate Bernie, he's not ideologically PURE~ enough for them 
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Jul 29, 2015 03:38
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MrBims posted:No it ain't.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:40
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I'm voting Bernie Sanders in the primaries, but this whole Hillary Hate Club is way too uncomfortably reminiscent of the Virgin-Whore dichotomy to be anything except covert sexism.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:41
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I'm going to vote for everyone. I'll make fake ids if I have to.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:44
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Lastgirl posted:True socialists hate Bernie, he's not ideologically PURE~ enough for them Trotskyists are garbage
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Jul 29, 2015 03:45
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I just want to be ideologically PURE~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b423FRM2Qug&spfreload=10
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Jul 29, 2015 03:48
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If trump will pay for it, i will vote for him twice
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Jul 29, 2015 03:49
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Leftists are garbage. The right is raw sewage.
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VanSandman posted:Leftists are garbage.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:53
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Joementum posted:I'm voting for Bernie in the primary but not Hillary in the general. Also, I voted against Obama in 2008 and 2012. AMA. Would you have done the same in a relevant state?
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Jul 29, 2015 04:00
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JT Jag posted:The American Left is trash, the American Right is maggot-infested flesh. I assume you don't mean therapeutic maggots
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greatn posted:I'm going to vote for everyone. I'll make fake ids if I have to. Great, now MIGF is going to talk about how great Chicago is and how we could all vote for everyone if we just moved there.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:07
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MrBims posted:No it ain't. Yes, it is. Joementum posted:I'm voting for Bernie in the primary but not Hillary in the general. Also, I voted against Obama in 2008 and 2012. AMA. Are you as curious as I am about what the grade of VT maple syrup was on that image Zeta Taskforce posted? I'm betting Fancy. Medium Amber at most.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:09
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Joementum posted:I'm voting for Bernie in the primary but not Hillary in the general. Also, I voted against Obama in 2008 and 2012. AMA. Vermont. Now tell us what you'd do if you lived in Ohio.
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mdemone posted:Vermont. Well ideally he'd move someplace better
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MrBims posted:No it ain't.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:16
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Nessus posted:Why would he take such great pains to say he is not intending to go negative, then? I imagine if Bernmentum is huge he will certainly not turn it down. No no no, you got it wrong. It's not turn it down it's BERN it down. hth
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Jul 29, 2015 04:27
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Third World Reggin posted:If trump will pay for it, i will vote for him twice Working up a strategy of registering in as many states as possible, creative use of no voter ID and absentee voting, How many Trump votes can one goon cast?
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Dahn posted:How many Trump votes can one goon cast? One more.
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Nessus posted:Why would he take such great pains to say he is not intending to go negative, then? I imagine if Bernmentum is huge he will certainly not turn it down. He doesn't need to because his opponent is Hillary Clinton, who is tied with Obama for most over-exposed politician in the nation - nothing he says about her is going to be news except to people who would dismiss every attack as being part of the vast right-wing conspiracy anyway. Everyone already knows she == big banks, flip-flopping based on audience, and walking into new scandals just as soon as the last one loses steam. It is wasted time and effort. Bernie has positive messages that are gaining support everywhere he says them and he doesn't need to change anything because breaking up the top banks and removing money from politics are middle-America positions.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:33
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spacemang_spliff posted:I assume you don't mean therapeutic maggots
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Jul 29, 2015 04:34
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MrBims posted:He doesn't need to because his opponent is Hillary Clinton, who is tied with Obama for most over-exposed politician in the nation - nothing he says about her is going to be news except to people who would dismiss every attack as being part of the vast right-wing conspiracy anyway. Everyone already knows she == big banks, flip-flopping based on audience, and walking into new scandals just as soon as the last one loses steam. It is wasted time and effort. Bernie has positive messages that are gaining support everywhere he says them and he doesn't need to change anything because breaking up the top banks and removing money from politics are middle-America positions. also, he's running to push his message and not to win
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MrBims posted:Everyone already knows she == big banks, flip-flopping based on audience, and walking into new scandals just as soon as the last one loses steam.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:39
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Alter Ego posted:Not really sure why you feel the need to be a huge, immature child if your guy doesn't win, but I think you're deluding yourself if you believe a statistically significant portion of Bernie Sanders' supporters feel the same, even if they will have to hold their noses when they vote. They, unlike you, understand the risks of letting the GOP win the Presidency. What are the risks, honestly. They aren't much worse and they already control both house and senate so who cares.
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Darth Windu posted:What are the risks, honestly. They aren't much worse and they already control both house and senate so who cares.
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JT Jag posted:They get to nominate two or three Supreme Court justices and shove legislation through Congress with impunity. I don't even know why I have to explain this. I don't really see the problem sorry they're already shoving through stuff and Obama is essentially a republican. Bernie or bust 2016
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Darth Windu posted:What are the risks, honestly. They aren't much worse and they already control both house and senate so who cares. "They aren't much worse" in what ways and by what metric, please be specific.
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Darth Windu posted:I don't really see the problem sorry they're already shoving through stuff and Obama is essentially a republican. Bernie or bust 2016 As a matter of fact, Republicans over the last five years have been hilariously ineffective at advancing their legislative agenda, even when they've had amazing opportunities to do so. Also, here are some ways in which Barack Obama is not a Republican: PPACA Nominating Sotomayor and Kagan Raising minimum wage for federal contractors Supporting net neutrality Negotiating with Iran Re-establishing relations with Cuba Not hiring climate change denialists to run the EPA Defending voting rights and minority rights through the Justice Department Protecting more federal lands Running an effective Department of Labor Supporting investment in alternative energy These are all off the top of my head. Zoran fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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JT Jag posted:I fail to see how any of this will keep her from getting the nomination. She's doing a good enough job of dropping her net favorability and polling in general election matchups on her own dime.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:52
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Darth Windu posted:What are the risks, honestly. They aren't much worse and they already control both house and senate so who cares. Obama let most of the Bush tax cuts expire. McCain wouldn't have, Romney wouldn't have. Seems like a pretty important policy decision to me. Darth Windu posted:I don't really see the problem sorry they're already shoving through stuff and Obama is essentially a republican. Bernie or bust 2016 Man I guess you're right, both sides are the same and it really doesn't matter who is in the supreme court, at least if you're a straight white male anyway. I mean, what's the difference between gays getting the right to marry and gays not getting the right to marry? No effect on me either way  (the ruling was 5-4 you loving shitlord)
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Fox Ironic posted:I'm voting Bernie Sanders in the primaries, but this whole Hillary Hate Club is way too uncomfortably reminiscent of the Virgin-Whore dichotomy to be anything except covert sexism. lol If you don't like Hillary you're part of a sexist conspiracy or something
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Equine Don posted:lol Probably yeah.
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Fox Ironic posted:I'm voting Bernie Sanders in the primaries, but this whole Hillary Hate Club is way too uncomfortably reminiscent of the Virgin-Whore dichotomy to be anything except covert sexism. We don't live in a perfect enough world for Quentin Tarantino to host a political commentary show
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Speaking of, are there any good funny podcasts covering this clownshow at the moment? Or even semi-serious, this season is making its own comedy. Any good recommendations so I can listen and mock in the car?
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Equine Don posted:lol It's not like there hasn't been substantial, actual sexism in nearly all of these threads in the last week. It's hard to believe it's not there when it's right in front of you. I don't think it's the main reason people have for not liking Hillary, obviously, but just like there was a great deal of Democrats who wouldn't vote for Obama because he happened to be black, I think there's a similar contingent of Democrats who won't vote for Hillary because she's a woman. And just like in 2008 and 2012, if you claim that you chose to vote for the Republican because the Democrat didn't meet some bizarro progressive litmus test, I'm just going to go ahead and assume you have some loving wrong opinions about black people and women, not that you have some weird hyper-principles that require you to loop around and vote against yourself when you don't get exactly what you want. Anybody remember the lily-white camp of Hillary voters who switched sides to McCain in 2008? I'm going to go ahead and say it wasn't because Obama was too liberal for them.
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