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Yeah, I mean if anything's been squandered in mid-98 WCW it's Goldberg's title reign. He gets big wins over big stars but even as world champ he doesn't main event until Halloween Havoc, and a ton of people didn't get to see that match because of some bullshit
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IDK, I marked out for Hogan and Warrior as a kid but I think its because we had different standards for what a tough guy was back then. It's not like today where you have so much mass media attention on stuff like MMA and even just on modern athletes training regimens. Warrior and Hogan were old, but as a kid they just reminded me of the drunk dudes you'd see getting in fights outside of the bar.
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Jul 27, 2015 21:36
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El Estrago Bonito posted:IDK, I marked out for Hogan and Warrior as a kid but I think its because we had different standards for what a tough guy was back then. It's not like today where you have so much mass media attention on stuff like MMA and even just on modern athletes training regimens. Warrior and Hogan were old, but as a kid they just reminded me of the drunk dudes you'd see getting in fights outside of the bar. what bars did you frequent that had old dudes as monstrously jacked as Warrior and Hogan getting into brawls? I want to hang out there.
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Jul 27, 2015 21:59
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:what bars did you frequent that had old dudes as monstrously jacked as Warrior and Hogan getting into brawls? I want to hang out there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUh3JQ9T8WI
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Jul 27, 2015 22:02
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:what bars did you frequent that had old dudes as monstrously jacked as Warrior and Hogan getting into brawls? I want to hang out there. And why were you there when you were a kid, at that
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Jul 27, 2015 22:11
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My burning question is, who was the guy who played Cheatham the Shark-Finned Terrorist Midget? I've never been able to find any of the WCW mini-movies on IMDB or any other place that lists the cast members.
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Anyway, the issue with bringing back Warrior isn't that Warrior didn't have the look (though he was obviously well past his apex in terms of physique) or the character. It's that he and Hogan were being pushed at the top of the pile while Goldberg, who was at that point one of only four real stars built 100% by WCW (the others being Sting, DDP, and the Giant), had no real storyline despite being the world champ and having huge fan support. I mean if you look at the WarGames match at Fall Brawl, who's representing WCW? DDP is captain but his teammates are Warrior and Piper. There was so much hesitation to pull the trigger on newer talent.
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Jul 27, 2015 22:37
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:what bars did you frequent that had old dudes as monstrously jacked as Warrior and Hogan getting into brawls? I want to hang out there. supposedly there's still meathead bars in the long island area. I found some people live tweeting fist fights a few weeks back.
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Jul 28, 2015 02:38
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:what bars did you frequent that had old dudes as monstrously jacked as Warrior and Hogan getting into brawls? I want to hang out there. I grew up in a very small town who's main attraction was a truck stop. There were a lot of middle aged dudes that basically just drunk beer, chewed tobacco and lifted weights. I mean none of them were obviously Hulk Hogan on roids level ripped but it was a similar aesthetic.
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Jul 28, 2015 03:12
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I'm so excited to watch another Warrior promo in 24 hours. I'm still on Team Wood though.
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I can't wait for Warrior's WCW gimmick to become more firmly established. Fog, magical powers, the one Warrior nation concept
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Jul 28, 2015 03:35
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:what bars did you frequent that had old dudes as monstrously jacked as Warrior and Hogan getting into brawls? I want to hang out there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34sqrLWF_tQ
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I don't think they "get into brawls" there so much as just going out to the parking lot to exchange a few blows
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Jul 28, 2015 19:51
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DynamiteKidd posted:Meltzer is brutal in his stuff on Nitro and WCW for basically the duration of Warrior's run. Not that he goes easy after that but the way he describes Hogan and Warrior dying in every city and how by October their merch can't be given away... it's sad, you know? Weird to think how horribly Warrior's 17 minute nonsensical promo of death is remembered but then that's basically the same as the open to every Raw now.
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Jul 28, 2015 21:10
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Gonzo McFee posted:Weird to think how horribly Warrior's 17 minute nonsensical promo of death is remembered but then that's basically the same as the open to every Raw now. My dude, how long has it been since you watched Warrior's promo?
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Jul 28, 2015 22:11
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:My dude, how long has it been since you watched Warrior's promo? Several years but as far as I remember it involves him coming out with his wife and making fun of the people on the message boards.
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Jul 28, 2015 22:13
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Gonzo McFee posted:Several years but as far as I remember it involves him coming out with his wife and making fun of the people on the message boards. I'm watching some Two Man Power Trip 2001 WWF stuff, and in a promo HHH mentions "the dirtsheets". My eyes almost rolled out of my head, he's the worst sometimes haha.
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Jul 28, 2015 22:16
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raw openings are bad but I always understand what hhh is talking about
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Jul 28, 2015 22:17
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oatgan posted:raw openings are bad but I always understand what hhh is talking about Every time Warrior speaks all I hear is "I am on so many drugs right now you don't even know"
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At least HHH has a script he follows when he has long promos on Raw, and his words always make sense in the order he says them and don't steal time from matches (since there's an overrun). Like I said on the last page, Warrior went into business for himself and stretched his segment to 17 minutes, which ate into time for a couple of the matches remaining on the show like Malenko/Hennig and even the Goldberg/Giant main event. Not to mention that the same show already had a lot of other long talking segments with Gene and DDP, Hogan and Eric at the top of the show, the Wolfpac coming out for 10 minutes just to say "hey we also exist if you don't remember", and Eddie's worked shoot promo. Incidentally, nobody believed Eddie was shooting because he never said "WWF" or "Raw" and pointedly avoided cursing ("Take this job and shove it up your you-know-what!") Didn't Sullivan still have the book, you'd think he'd be able to pull off a believable worked shoot angle since he put together Pillman's Loose Cannon angle (granted, with a ton of help from Pillman)
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Jul 28, 2015 22:29
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HHH doesn't really have to go into business for himself since he's basically in charge of the business. Personally, I'd take Warrior going mental over the same promo I've seen HHH cut since 2001. Don't get me wrong, Warrior's promo is an amazingly terrible promo but at least you'll remember it two hours later.
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Counterpoint: I've never seen HHH get gassed giving a promo
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You know what you're right this thread is about LOLWWE and LOLHHH and I was silly to think WCW hosed up Warrior's return and probably shouldn't have brought him in in the first place. After all, WWE is silly and HHH has a giant ego and always has to put himself over everybody so nothing else that ever existed could ever be bad or dumb.
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Skinty McEdger posted:Counterpoint: I've never seen HHH get gassed giving a promo This is not a point in Triple H's favor
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DynamiteKidd posted:You know what you're right this thread is about LOLWWE and LOLHHH and I was silly to think WCW hosed up Warrior's return and probably shouldn't have brought him in in the first place. After all, WWE is silly and HHH has a giant ego and always has to put himself over everybody so nothing else that ever existed could ever be bad or dumb. Well that's just not what I'm saying at all.
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Warrior's promos were fine if kept to like two minutes, then some roaring and shaking the ropes like a maniac. Whoever decided Ultimate Warrior should give a 17 minute in-ring soliloquy (be it Warrior or Bischoff or whoever) should have been trampled by elephants and run over with lawnmowers.
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Jul 28, 2015 23:01
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honestly i would rather see a 15 minute warrior segment every single week because that sounds like fun
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oatgan posted:honestly i would rather see a 15 minute warrior segment every single week because that sounds like fun So you mean a Warrior live cam in the coffin or do you want a direct feed to hell?
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DynamiteKidd posted:You know what you're right this thread is about LOLWWE and LOLHHH and I was silly to think WCW hosed up Warrior's return and probably shouldn't have brought him in in the first place. After all, WWE is silly and HHH has a giant ego and always has to put himself over everybody so nothing else that ever existed could ever be bad or dumb. haha uh
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DynamiteKidd posted:You know what you're right this thread is about LOLWWE and LOLHHH and I was silly to think WCW hosed up Warrior's return and probably shouldn't have brought him in in the first place. After all, WWE is silly and HHH has a giant ego and always has to put himself over everybody so nothing else that ever existed could ever be bad or dumb. Lol you're the same guy who kept getting pissy when people were wrong about house number minutiae last night
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quote:Willow the Whisp (Sometimes WWF jobber Jeff Hardy) debuted in Japan on 6/14 for Battlarts and in his first match in captured the vacant UWA middleweight title beating Ikuto Hidaka
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Oh my god please tell me that Willow had a shoot-match while in Battlarts
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RZApublican posted:Oh my god please tell me that Willow had a shoot-match while in Battlarts Sadly, I don't think they did shoots in Battlarts. I could be wrong.
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Everything Willow did was a shoot. They don't call him 'the best pure striker who is also a sentient tree' for nothing.
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read a DDT Digest report on the Nitro that's gonna be shown tonight. You remember a few weeks back when Schiavone said a million times that WCW gives the fans what they want, WWF is taped and has a 10-second main event, blah blah (and then the main event of that Nitro ended in 25 seconds after an nWo run-in)? On the WWF hotline JR said of that something like "Tony's a friend, I was a little disappointed to hear about that but I know he was just saying what he was told to, I've done it before myself." Anyway my point is, JR is a wonderful man without a mean word for anybody, since Tony is measurably small-minded and petty (see when that guy he hated hosed up on Millionaire and Tony mentioned it 800 times on Nitro)
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DynamiteKidd posted:
Black people are people too.
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Tony Schiavone rules
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DynamiteKidd posted:read a DDT Digest report on the Nitro that's gonna be shown tonight. You remember a few weeks back when Schiavone said a million times that WCW gives the fans what they want, WWF is taped and has a 10-second main event, blah blah (and then the main event of that Nitro ended in 25 seconds after an nWo run-in)? On the WWF hotline JR said of that something like "Tony's a friend, I was a little disappointed to hear about that but I know he was just saying what he was told to, I've done it before myself." If it was 2015 JR he would've made bitter old man remarks about it on Twitter for weeks
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