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Fat_Cow
Dec 12, 2009

Every time I yank a jawbone from a skull and ram it into an eyesocket, I know I'm building a better future.

Any reason why alt tabbing won't bring me back to my desktop?

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track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

ThermoPhysical posted:

By the way guys,if you hold off the update from the reserve, you can only hold off for 3 days until you must update to 10.

The win10 update has come up as 2gb important update on mine under the normal updates? Surely if I just hide the update its not going to auto install it? This is on Win7 Pro btw.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

The Iron Rose posted:

I think imma wait a month or three before upgrading. Yeah this is day one stuff, was windows 8 like this?

I jumped to 8 a couple weeks after launch, and I have never had a single issue since.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Ash1138 posted:

I'm not sure if this is the place to ask (vs the enterprise thread), but Google is failing me: Will SBS 2008 get an update so it can administer Win10 machines via GPO, WSUS, etc. like it did for Win8? I do the computer janitor thing at our 20 employee office and we have the double whammy of OEM Win7 installs on a domain so figuring out how (or if) I can (or should) take advantage of the free upgrade has been a real pain.

Domain joined Windows 7 machines shouldn't get prompted for an upgrade, so you don't have to worry about it.

MS has been very quiet about what will get Windows 10 admin support, but anything that worked to support Windows 8 will work to support Windows 10.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007




track day bro! posted:

The win10 update has come up as 2gb important update on mine under the normal updates? Surely if I just hide the update its not going to auto install it? This is on Win7 Pro btw.

I don't know if it'll auto update, but when I was going to pause it, it only gave me to July 31st and that's it.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Launching programs from an always listening Cortana is making me feel super lazy.

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh
Windows 10 Pro clean install on a Windows laptop that had Windows 8.1 Pro. 10 installed OK but it won't activate. What's wrong?

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

I've got Windows 7 DVDs, haven't upgraded yet but have reserved (option hasn't popped up yet; guess Asia gets it later), and I want to put in a new hard drive and do a clean install. Do I need to:

1) Wait for the upgrade prompt, hit "later," put in the hard drive and then install from the disks, which from what I understand from the thread will give me a prompt to upgrade?

- or -

2) Upgrade on my current HDD when I can, which will give me a Windows 10 key (?) and then swap out the drive and do a clean install?

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




WattsvilleBlues posted:

Windows 10 Pro clean install on a Windows laptop that had Windows 8.1 Pro. 10 installed OK but it won't activate. What's wrong?

If you didn't run the installer from inside Windows 8 (e.g. you booted and formatted) you destroyed your 8.1 license and will have to reinstall 8.1.

Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

EoRaptor posted:

Domain joined Windows 7 machines shouldn't get prompted for an upgrade, so you don't have to worry about it.

MS has been very quiet about what will get Windows 10 admin support, but anything that worked to support Windows 8 will work to support Windows 10.
Unfortunately it didn't when I tried the technical preview a few weeks ago. I could join the domain, but the SBS Console listed that client's OS as "unknown" and the usual "this feature is controlled by your administrator/group policy" didn't show up on the client's Windows Update.

I did find out though that a client connector update is out for SBS/Server 2011 and 2012. Not sure if that's a good or bad sign for SBS 2008.

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

ThermoPhysical posted:

I don't know if it'll auto update, but when I was going to pause it, it only gave me to July 31st and that's it.

Eh i've just uninstalled KB3035583 and windows update no longer shows the windows 10 upgrade thing. Honestly i'd rather wait a while and i''m running 100240 from the insider on my crappy laptop anyway.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib

Fat_Cow posted:

Any reason why alt tabbing won't bring me back to my desktop?

Win + D for desktop. Alt Tab is still a cycle through various open windows/programs.

MY ABACUS!
Oct 7, 2003

Katamari do your best!
Is the Store app still only going to show these mobile-style apps and no desktop apps in Windows 10? If so, doesn't this just further establish the fragmented ecosystem?

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Ash1138 posted:

Unfortunately it didn't when I tried the technical preview a few weeks ago. I could join the domain, but the SBS Console listed that client's OS as "unknown" and the usual "this feature is controlled by your administrator/group policy" didn't show up on the client's Windows Update.

I did find out though that a client connector update is out for SBS/Server 2011 and 2012. Not sure if that's a good or bad sign for SBS 2008.

The SBS console isn't very good at anything.

For my SBS2011 domain, the two windows 10 test installs/upgrades I have both function as expected and obey all the applied policies, including WSUS. I don't have any Windows 10 specific policies, because the RSAT tools and guidelines aren't out yet.

Also the SBS2011 'update' is to edit a file so that the console doesn't show unknown. That's it.

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010

WattsvilleBlues posted:

Windows 10 Pro clean install on a Windows laptop that had Windows 8.1 Pro. 10 installed OK but it won't activate. What's wrong?

I had the exact same problem earlier, but it seems to have sorted itself out the last time I rebooted. It might just have been the activation server being overloaded.

Otherwise, try the instructions here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/why-activate-windows-10

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

So I'm up and running, but "keep nothing" still left a bunch of poo poo on my drive. Its activated, but where do I find my key I'll need to install fresh?

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Windows Game DVR is capped at 30fps? That sucks. Hopefully an update drops that allows for 60fps recording. Also, is there anyway to force it to use Intel Quicksync for encoding if I'm using a discrete video card? OBS is capable of deferring to Quicksync, but this game DVR features seems super convenient and would be nice if I could somehow offload the encoding duties to the iGPU.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

Stupidly I clean installed 10240 after backing up my Win7 install to a folder. Now I need an activation key. Is the only way to get one to recover my Windows 7 installation, upgrade it, pull the key, and give it to my clean install?

Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006



That error noise (no search results in browser, backspace in a field with no text) sounds so much like a Wind Waker sound effect but I can't place which one I'm thinking of.

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

I've been casually interested in W10 for a bit now, but a friend just linked me this which I'm sure contains tons of hyperboles, but it still makes me take a stop.

Are any of these legit concerns? Is this even an up to date thing?

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

I found this and figured it would be helpful:

http://imgur.com/gallery/qCWHwCd

quote:

This is what i figured out myself, and it works for doing a complete fresh install of Windows 10 and activating it if you are currently running Windows 7 or 8(.1).

1: First things first, make sure you have everything backed up and saved. Also write down your current key for Windows 7 or 8.1.
2: Then download this little tool https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 . And use it to download an ISO for your version of Windows. Got Windows 8.1 Pro? Go with Windows 10 Pro. Got Windows 7 Home Premium? Go with Windows 10 home, etc..
3: Make a bootable USB stick with this: https://rufus.akeo.ie/ . Use GPT for partition table, and file system FAT32.
4: Then put the USB stick aside and install the Windows 10 upgrade through Windows update. The reason being that your old key won't work to activate Windows 10. But during the update process you automatically get a new key, a legitimate Windows 10 key.
5: Now once it's all installed use this tool: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html to find your new Windows 10 key. Make sure to write this down, so you can always find it.
6: Now with your new Windows 10 key you can install Windows 10 and activate it like you're used to. Boot from the USB stick, install Windows 10, install the drivers, activate and off you go.

Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:
So I was on the TP and just clicked "stop getting insider builds." That's all I have to do, right? No need to go and reinstall 7 or anything ridiculous like that?

I mean, at one point it had my key from W7, but that was like 10 OS/builds ago.

It says it's activated, but I'm pretty sure the last key I punched in was one of the Insider ISO keys a few months ago. Am I right in presuming that it's properly activated from the first preview build, and that's tied to my MS account?

robodex
Jun 6, 2007

They're what's for dinner

codo27 posted:

So I'm up and running, but "keep nothing" still left a bunch of poo poo on my drive. Its activated, but where do I find my key I'll need to install fresh?

You don't.

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

GreenNight posted:

I found this and figured it would be helpful:

http://imgur.com/gallery/qCWHwCd

Those are really bad instructions.

You don't need to use Rufus to make the USB stick. The Windows 10 media creation tool can do it itself.

You also don't need to write down any Windows 10 key. Once it's activated the activation is tied to your Microsoft account. If you were to install from the USB key you just skip the product key entry screen, and it'll automatically activate when you sync it to your Microsoft account later.

Also if you're doing it on your current drive there's an option in the install tool to do a clean install when you upgrade. No USB and reinstall required.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




GreenNight posted:

I found this and figured it would be helpful:

http://imgur.com/gallery/qCWHwCd

I think everyone gets the same Windows 10 "key" when doing the upgrade, actually, so we're unsure if it will work for clean reinstalls and how much your hardware can change.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




GreenNight posted:

I found this and figured it would be helpful:

http://imgur.com/gallery/qCWHwCd

Thats kinda wrong, sorry

First up no need for rufus, the very tool it mentions can do that

2nd, you dont get a new windows 10 key, that whole bit is rubbish

efb

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

macnbc posted:

Those are really bad instructions.

You don't need to use Rufus to make the USB stick. The Windows 10 media creation tool can do it itself.

You also don't need to write down any Windows 10 key. Once it's activated the activation is tied to your Microsoft account. If you were to install from the USB key you just skip the product key entry screen, and it'll automatically activate when you sync it to your Microsoft account later.

Also if you're doing it on your current drive there's an option in the install tool to do a clean install when you upgrade. No USB and reinstall required.

I'd want a usb key because if my hard drive failed or corruption.

vv I'd hope so, I have 4 computers at home to update.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
I assume you can activate multiple machines on the same MS account?

RangerAce
Feb 25, 2014

pandaK posted:

I've been casually interested in W10 for a bit now, but a friend just linked me this which I'm sure contains tons of hyperboles, but it still makes me take a stop.

Are any of these legit concerns? Is this even an up to date thing?

This is where MS finds out whether or not normal computer users will put up with the same bullshit that Xbox One users have been getting; dashboard ads, always-on kinect/keylogging, etc.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

Stupidly I clean installed 10240 after backing up my Win7 install to a folder. Now I need an activation key. Is the only way to get one to recover my Windows 7 installation, upgrade it, pull the key, and give it to my clean install?

You never pull the key.

have an activated windows 7/8/8.1

run the Win10 installer from inside windows. Choose to not keep anything for a clean install.

To be clear, the Key on windows 10 installs are all the same.

Don Lapre fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jul 29, 2015

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

pandaK posted:

I've been casually interested in W10 for a bit now, but a friend just linked me this which I'm sure contains tons of hyperboles, but it still makes me take a stop.

Are any of these legit concerns? Is this even an up to date thing?

You should probably avoid getting the hard facts from a grainy jpeg with spelling errors marked up like a drunk detective's pin board tracking an international conspiracy.

1- The feedback selection thing is due to being in the insider preview, it's part of getting to use it for free. If you opt out of the insider program and/or a normal user, feedback can be disabled

2- Here's a response on the wifi sharing thing: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/wi-fi-sense-in-windows-10-yes-it-shares-your-passkeys-no-you-shouldnt-be-scared/

3- You can't really opt out of updates (at least not without enterprise edition) and it's a hot topic right now and in this thread

4- The sending keystrokes thing is the "type to search" live preview stuff, equivalently in IE when you have that turned on, and Chrome etc where you can start typing in the address bar and get results right in line

5- It's true that Windows Defender is on by default with no good way I know of to disable. You can also make the mistake of purchasing a commercial AV which will turn it off and use that instead.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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pandaK posted:

I've been casually interested in W10 for a bit now, but a friend just linked me this which I'm sure contains tons of hyperboles, but it still makes me take a stop.

Are any of these legit concerns? Is this even an up to date thing?
That's a pretty spergged out pic. Many of the options shown set for beta builds only are not are true to release. That big full ad in the start menu doesn't exist, though there is an option for promoted store apps to show in the menu (which is what you can toggle on/off.) The keylogger typing claims that can be extrapolated to any website that uses ajax callback/updates to respond to input as it's typed in so depending on how you view that I guess it could be time to invest in tinfoil futures.

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

Factor Mystic posted:

5- It's true that Windows Defender is on by default with no good way I know of to disable. You can also make the mistake of purchasing a commercial AV which will turn it off and use that instead.

I dunno if you can call getting a third party AV a "mistake" with Defender's poor scoring in tests.

Granted, there are plenty of great free AV tools out there. But Microsoft's isn't one of them.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

teagone posted:

Windows Game DVR is capped at 30fps? That sucks. Hopefully an update drops that allows for 60fps recording. Also, is there anyway to force it to use Intel Quicksync for encoding if I'm using a discrete video card? OBS is capable of deferring to Quicksync, but this game DVR features seems super convenient and would be nice if I could somehow offload the encoding duties to the iGPU.

just use shadowplay

some dillweed
Mar 31, 2007

macnbc posted:

You don't need to use Rufus to make the USB stick. The Windows 10 media creation tool can do it itself.
That "media creation tool" downloads the ISOs fine and might work for the straight upgrade option, but I've gotten the "Something happened" error twice already on a couple of different drives while trying to use the USB key creation method. The same error seems to be happening for people elsewhere, so that tool doesn't seem to be completely problem-free.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Also I like downloading the ISO and having it backed up, than keep having to use the tool.

Three Cookies
Apr 9, 2010

After getting my ability to change settings back and turning off 3 button tapping so I wasn't just bringing up Cortana constantly, I think I'm starting to actually like windows 10.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



Don Lapre posted:

You never pull the key.

have an activated windows 7/8/8.1

run the Win10 installer from inside windows. Choose to not keep anything for a clean install.

To be clear, the Key on windows 10 installs are all the same.

So the key is the same for everyone? I'm confused. How do you do a clean install in the case for when you want to format? Does 10 not ask you for a product key (or do you use your old 7/8/8.1 key?) when you do a fresh install?

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Sire Oblivion posted:

So the key is the same for everyone? I'm confused. How do you do a clean install in the case for when you want to format? Does 10 not ask you for a product key (or do you use your old 7/8/8.1 key?) when you do a fresh install?

You do a windows reset, not a format. Though apparently once you have upgraded windows 10 from an activated windows 7 or 8. you can format and reinstall, then skip the key entry and it will activate.. apparently.

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RangerAce
Feb 25, 2014

Don Lapre posted:

You do a windows reset, not a format. Though apparently once you have upgraded windows 10 from an activated windows 7 or 8. you can format and reinstall, then skip the key entry and it will activate.. apparently.

I think it might be creating a machine-specific key and when you install on that same machine again, it will always reactivate without issue because the machine key will match up with what they have on record.

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