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zoux posted:He'll change his tune once he sees my unbreakable adamantium claws which slice through anything like paper. Ah'm invulnerable while ah'm blastin'.
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Jul 31, 2015 00:22
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Was "Only my ruby-quartz visor can contain my optic blasts!" one of Claremont's or was that used in the Silver Age too? Because it sounds like it should be a Claremontism. I think there's definitely a point in Claremont's X-Men run (maybe around about the Brood Saga) where he discovered what Alan Moore and Alan Davis had been doing with Captain Britain, and his writing style subtly changes to reflect how that influenced him. I can't cite any specific examples but it's a feeling I get reading some of those comics.
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Jul 31, 2015 00:58
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zoux posted:THWIPP Reported for low effort posting.
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Jul 31, 2015 01:00
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Bozhe moi!
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Jul 31, 2015 01:06
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If you read too much X-Men, Claremontisms will own you body and soul.
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Jul 31, 2015 01:55
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Random Stranger posted:If you read too much X-Men, Claremontisms will own you body and soul, now and forever. Fixed that for you.
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Jul 31, 2015 02:12
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Well, he IS the best there is at what he does, and what he does... isn't very nice.
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Jul 31, 2015 03:01
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Gaz-L posted:Well, he IS the best there is at what he does, and what he does... isn't very nice. Pretty sure that wasn't Claremont 
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Random Stranger posted:If you read too much X-Men, Claremontisms will own you body and soul.
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Jul 31, 2015 03:54
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Travis343 posted:Pretty sure that wasn't Claremont You sure? First citation I could find is UXM #162. Written by Chris Claremont.
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Jul 31, 2015 04:32
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Endless Mike posted:No quarter will be asked, and none given. Isn't that Furman?
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Jul 31, 2015 04:35
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Gaz-L posted:Bozhe moi!
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Jul 31, 2015 04:38
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Potsticker posted:Isn't that Furman? What are you playing at, trying to start more quotations? Time I made a stand. These repeated lines are giving me the worst case of indigestion I've ever had, a short, sharp lesson in a whole world of pain. Starting now, it's over, finished!
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Jul 31, 2015 04:41
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WickedHate posted:What are you playing at, trying to start more quotations? Time I made a stand. These repeated lines are giving me the worst case of indigestion I've ever had, a short, sharp lesson in a whole world of pain. Starting now, it's over, finished! I'm pretty sure this is surplus to requirements. It was not my intent!! That was a serious question.
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Jul 31, 2015 04:42
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Potsticker posted:Isn't that Furman? He may have used it as well, but it's Claremont as hell. Here's some randomd blog to back me up, toveritch! http://stason.org/TULARC/art/comics-xbooks/68-What-s-a-Claremontism.html#.VbrxdRGzGUU
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Jul 31, 2015 04:55
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Potsticker posted:I'm pretty sure this is surplus to requirements. It never ends. 
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Jul 31, 2015 05:00
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WickedHate posted:It never ends. Time to reap the whirlwind!
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Jul 31, 2015 05:09
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WickedHate posted:It never ends. Better to fight and die than live with the knowledge that you ran.
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Jul 31, 2015 09:21
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Maybe it's because I originally read the Claremont X-men in Finnish, objectively a better and more succinct language altogether, but Claremont never struck me as wordy. (Then again I started with Lee and Thomas so  )
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You're working with stuff that's been translated. Looking back at his stuff now it's really odd.
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Jul 31, 2015 10:19
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Now Alan Moore's later stuff is another matter entirely. He really likes the sound of his own droning senile Tolkien syndrome-addled voice.
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Jul 31, 2015 10:25
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Gaz-L posted:Bozhe moi!
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Jerry Cotton posted:Now Alan Moore's later stuff is another matter entirely. He really likes the sound of his own droning senile Tolkien syndrome-addled voice. Oh, man. Promethea is a tough challenge to get through. But it's in his early stuff too, though not all of it. One day I binge-read a bunch of his Swamp Thing issues, ended up burning out on the entire English language for two or three days afterward.
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Cyphoderus posted:Oh, man. Promethea is a tough challenge to get through. Speaking of Swamp Thing, here's an actual question: is any of the later Swamp Thing worth reading? I'm mostly concerned about not needing to know
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Jerry Cotton posted:Speaking of Swamp Thing, here's an actual question: is any of the later Swamp Thing worth reading? I'm mostly concerned about not needing to know I don't know how "later" you mean, but the New 52 Swamp Thing was pretty darned good. (I stopped reading it after a few years, but I've been doing a general reduction in all my reading.)
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prefect posted:I don't know how "later" you mean, but the New 52 Swamp Thing was pretty darned good. (I stopped reading it after a few years, but I've been doing a general reduction in all my reading.) Later than Moore.
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Gaz-L posted:You sure? First citation I could find is UXM #162. Written by Chris Claremont. I thought it was first used in Wolverine's mini series, which according to Google that IS Claremont. I thought it was written by Miller but apparently he just did the art. So I'm wrong regardless of the issue.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Was "Only my ruby-quartz visor can contain my optic blasts!" one of Claremont's or was that used in the Silver Age too? Because it sounds like it should be a Claremontism. I don't recall when they started calling it "ruby-quartz", but I'm pretty sure citing the visor as the only thing that can hold back his optic blasts goes all the way back to Lee & Kirby. Thomas certainly milked it.
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I've always wondered, is there like a continuous optic blast going across the gap between his eyeballs and the visor?
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zoux posted:I've always wondered, is there like a continuous optic blast going across the gap between his eyeballs and the visor? I've always thought so. Which makes me wonder, when he's wearing glasses instead of his visor, what if a fly got in between his eyes and the glasses? Would it be blasted away, taking the ruby-quartz glasses along with it?
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The inside of Cyclops' visor actually contains portals that return his optic blast energy to the Eyebeam dimension.
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I always wished Marvel Zombies had featured more classic zombies so we could have has a visor-less Cyclops shambling about slowing starving to death because his eye beams destroyed anyone close enough he could have eaten.
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Is it still the case that Cyke's Optic blast servo is constantly in the ON position? I seem to recall that it was caused by a head injury he got as a kid, so he couldn't control it, but Jean Grey at least once fixed it temporarily so he could open his eyes without the need for glasses. Also, while we're on the subject of arguably the worst X-man, since his visor and glasses are ruby colored does that mean that he is constantly viewing the world through a dark red filter? Like it's always a darkroom wherever he goes?
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CzarChasm posted:Is it still the case that Cyke's Optic blast servo is constantly in the ON position? I seem to recall that it was caused by a head injury he got as a kid, so he couldn't control it, but Jean Grey at least once fixed it temporarily so he could open his eyes without the need for glasses.
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Jean also once looked into his eyes on top of a butte outside of Warren's mansion. She held back the blasts with her telekinetic powers, so they could look into each other's eyes. Then they had a totally romantic moment that was awkward years later when Scott brought it up to Jean but it was actually the phoenix that did that. Just thought I'd mention that since you brought up Jean, and maybe you were thinking of that.
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And have a thing for red heads (at least until Emma came along). As for Moore' there is still one issue of Swamp Thing that I have never read because it just felt like such a chore to get through all the wordiness. That being said, he is nowhere as annoying as Claremont who constantly gives exposition and wordiness to things that are clearly shown on the page.
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For some reason I thought the weird physics of his powers plus the visor made everything look yellow, but I might be thinking of dogs.
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Fritzler posted:Just thought I'd mention that since you brought up Jean, and maybe you were thinking of that. I thought you were mentioning it to make a "butte sex" joke, but somehow held back. You have more will power than I.
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