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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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You Am I posted:*flicks cigarette at u* *tries to do a burnout out of the parking lot in a fwd*
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Jul 29, 2015 11:34
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The only redeeming quality of the Prius C is that it comes in some cool colors, which that idiot fucker didn't even select.
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Jul 29, 2015 12:34
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nuclear_cheetos posted:Now that I have a second just figured I'd add that I'm pretty new to aftermarket anything and wondered if I'd be better off getting FiST Recaros from ebay or just going through a Ford dealership. Those recaros are major coin. I would be surprised if changing out the seats is a DIY job, and I imagine dealership labor cost to swap them out would not be cheap either. The standard seats (in the FiST anyway) aren't that bad. Use some of that several thousand that you saved to put toward an accessport, ic.
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Jul 29, 2015 12:45
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In less terrible stuff about cars that hardly qualifies as a hot hatch, pricing and options for the Focus RS were accidently revealed with a base price of $35,730 putting it squarely in competition with the Golf R and STI. http://blog.caranddriver.com/ford-focus-rs-pricing-and-options-accidentally-revealed-online/ That puts it just outside of my price range. Plus I've been concerned that the RS has far more power than I would ever need in a daily driver that I currently don't intend on racing with. I've also been going back and forth on liking how it looks and being able to live it. I only like the front grille splitter when its dark enough that you can't see it and with the rear wing it looks too much like a boy racer car. And with rumors of the WRX hatchback potentially coming out in Q2 2017, I may consider waiting. Edward IV fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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Jul 29, 2015 17:05
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Electric Pigeon posted:It's OK, I find them inexplicably cute and smile whenever I see them. poo poo, if this is true, I might have to change my name. poo poo, 345 hp, cheaper, and I can get a sunroof? hmmmmmmmm. And of course today I get an email that they're about to start doing orders for the R. Annnnnnnd, after talking to the dude, I could go down there right now and buy a Black R with Nav and Dcc. Hahah, and talking to the other dealer, they want a 5000 OVER msrp, screw that. Waiting for dealership 1 to send me back numbers and an estimate on my trade in. Might be upgrading this weekend. veedubfreak fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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Jul 29, 2015 17:42
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http://blog.caranddriver.com/ford-focus-rs-pricing-and-options-accidentally-revealed-online/ Looks like the RS pricing finally leaked. Edit: I read good. The Pell fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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Jul 29, 2015 20:20
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The Pell posted:http://blog.caranddriver.com/ford-focus-rs-pricing-and-options-accidentally-revealed-online/ Two posts up, friend.
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Jul 29, 2015 20:25
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Jul 29, 2015 21:27
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How can it only be $36,000? I could seriously make that happen in a about a year.
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Jul 30, 2015 00:23
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Rhyno posted:How can it only be $36,000? I could seriously make that happen in a about a year. I don't know but this is truly a second Renaissance if one can get a 345hp all wheel drive hot hatch for 10k less than the slowest Porsche
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Jul 30, 2015 00:37
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8ender posted:I don't know but this is truly a second Renaissance if one can get a 345hp all wheel drive hot hatch for 10k less than the slowest Porsche I have a pretty solid amount of cash in savings, in it's current condition I can probably squeak $10K out of the MS6, my credit is above 750 on all thee agencies... I should stop thinking about this.
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Jul 30, 2015 00:40
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Weren't you thinking about getting rid of your miata too?
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Jul 30, 2015 00:43
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mariooncrack posted:Weren't you thinking about getting rid of your miata too? I think about playing musical cars pretty much every day. But lately I've been pretty drat happy with my cars. I drove the MS6 yesterday for the first time in weeks and the BOOOOOOST was such a good feeling. I've been following the MZR communities on FB and it wouldn't be hard to get the 6 up to similar power levels for a not crazy amount of money. But the RS...
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Jul 30, 2015 00:49
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QQ they're only offering me 13k for my TDI trade. But at least they aren't trying to gently caress me with a 5000 dollar "o0o0o0 it's special" addon like the other dealer.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:07
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A Focus RS in that blue at that price looks mighty fine indeed. If there isn't any major hang-ups or limited numbers I might become a Ford man.
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Jul 30, 2015 03:23
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Same, for that price I might become a Ford man too. Hell, I might even splurge for the GT350.....until 3 hours ago when my wife said no way are we buying any Ford that isn't a 60's Mustang. She used to work for the company that maintained the Big 3's private jets in Michigan and is disgusted by the way the Detroit companies wasted money on jets when they were laying off all the employees. She's ok with Porsche though and likes the idea of getting a 911 so....
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Jul 30, 2015 11:20
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Had my Abarth for a couple of weeks now and I'm totally in love with it. It makes me laugh whenever I drive it  I just hope my neighbors don't hate me too much. The 5:30am cold starts sound really loud when I leave for the gym in the morning.
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Jul 30, 2015 13:33
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So after taxes, trade in and all the other bullshit that comes along with buying a new car, I'm going to be financing 36k for the new R. I can make it work, i can make it work, i can make it work. At least I'm not paying markup. And I'll have the 2nd 2016 Golf R in the state 
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Jul 30, 2015 14:50
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veedubfreak posted:So after taxes, trade in and all the other bullshit that comes along with buying a new car, I'm going to be financing 36k for the new R. I can make it work, i can make it work, i can make it work. Nice! I don't see myself buying another VW at this point, but I'm sure the R would be fun. I'm kind of interested in seeing if the rumor where something on the Focus RS is getting pretty much as much power as it can take without breaking is true before I really start looking at them. I reckon it will be pretty obvious within the first couple of months after they're out.
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Jul 30, 2015 15:53
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fknlo posted:Nice! I don't see myself buying another VW at this point, but I'm sure the R would be fun. What turbocharged 2.3L do you know of that makes 345HP and ISN'T pushed close to the reliability limit? That's a lot of power out of not a lot of displacement, and it's got a factory warranty.
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Jul 30, 2015 16:10
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I think the turbo is pretty maxed out, but the internals and block should take a good bit more.
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Jul 30, 2015 16:14
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Pretty sure the thing the guy was talking about was something in the awd system. I think it was a guy on nasioc that had worked on it.
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Jul 30, 2015 16:18
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fknlo posted:Pretty sure the thing the guy was talking about was something in the awd system. I think it was a guy on nasioc that had worked on it.
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Jul 30, 2015 17:31
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fknlo posted:Pretty sure the thing the guy was talking about was something in the awd system. I think it was a guy on nasioc that had worked on it. I remember reading that, he had a great analogy where he described the drivetrain as being a bucket with a 5 gallon capacity and the stock power being 5.2 gallons of liquid. So basically the drivetrain is pushed to the limit from the factory and more power will just break poo poo.
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Jul 30, 2015 17:37
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Wrar posted:Based on the Ecoboost Mustang, the engine is not the limiter here at all. I'm much more inclined to think the AWD system is going to be the failure point. I've seen a couple dozen MS6 builds where they eat axles as soon as they cross 300hp so I would believe it. It's a similar system isn't it?
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Jul 30, 2015 18:40
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Rhyno posted:I've seen a couple dozen MS6 builds where they eat axles as soon as they cross 300hp so I would believe it. It's a similar system isn't it? That's embarrassingly low. DSM AWD systems from '92-'99 can take massive abuse from morons doing full clutch dumps at 5krpm and last for years and years with 400+ hp. I know new AWD systems are all fancy with computers, but somehow you'd think that would make things even more reliable. My old college roommate had an AWD '98 Talon running low 11's with consistent 1.6 60' times and never broke a single drivetrain part in the 5 years he raced the car with many hundreds of drag launches.
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Jul 30, 2015 20:35
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We've got better maths now so no need to over engineer stuff for reliability. You can save quite a bit by engineering a part to only reliably survive factory performance stresses, no need to spend the extra manufacturing cost when 95+% of your cars aren't going to see those increased stresses, let alone it being a warranty issue since it's been modified from factory spec. We only get bullet proof components now if the engineering and finance allow it.
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Jul 31, 2015 04:09
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Jul 31, 2015 15:14
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Eh, if it's under built then Ford will just eat poo poo when it comes to warranty which is not in their best interest obviously. I wouldn't believe it until shitheads on the internet have broken parts in hand.
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Jul 31, 2015 15:34
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Larrymer posted:Eh, if it's under built then Ford will just eat poo poo when it comes to warranty which is not in their best interest obviously. I wouldn't believe it until shitheads on the internet have broken parts in hand. Whats that? You broke something? Oh you upgraded your ECU? Pound sand buddy. Does Ford have a version of TD1 like VW does?
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Jul 31, 2015 15:57
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veedubfreak posted:Whats that? You broke something? Oh you upgraded your ECU? Pound sand buddy. My local Ford dealer actually sells pre-tuned cars under warranty. This was includes STs and lifted super trucks.
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Jul 31, 2015 16:31
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KakerMix posted:My local Ford dealer actually sells pre-tuned cars under warranty. This was includes STs and lifted super trucks.
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Jul 31, 2015 17:25
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ilkhan posted:That's a dealer warranty, not a Ford warranty. Go to a different dealer and try to get repairs covered. Ford offers factory warranty coverage on Ford dealership-installed or Mountune-installed Mountune modifications. If the dealership is doing Mountune mods on FiSTs and FoSTs, then, yeah, it's a factory warranty.
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Jul 31, 2015 17:38
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Sigma X posted:Ford offers factory warranty coverage on Ford dealership-installed or Mountune-installed Mountune modifications. If the dealership is doing Mountune mods on FiSTs and FoSTs, then, yeah, it's a factory warranty. I didn't know that.
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Jul 31, 2015 18:34
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It's also likely to be an extremely mild tune, and priced higher than what you'd normally pay.
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Jul 31, 2015 18:59
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So if I want an RS I have to wait one year and I'm forbidden from buying any other cars and/or tools plus no more toys video games. The girlfriend has spoken.
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Jul 31, 2015 19:19
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Rhyno posted:So if I want an RS I have to wait one year and I'm forbidden from buying any other cars and/or tools plus no more toys video games. You could cut that down to 6 months if you stop buying her jewelry and stop taking her out to dinner.
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Jul 31, 2015 19:24
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Calidus posted:You could cut that down to 6 months if you stop buying her jewelry and stop taking her out to dinner. She never spends money on herself and we rarely go out! She gets this leverage because via her job we pay $125 a month for our huge apartment. The other condition is would indeed have to sell the MS6 and the Miata. She would allow e to have a boring daily driver but it would have to be auto so she could drive it.
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Jul 31, 2015 19:27
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Sounds like a trick to get you to save up money for the wedding.
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Jul 31, 2015 19:27
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Powershift posted:Sounds like a trick to get you to save up money for the wedding. Nah, we're eloping. Since her mom died she decided she didn't want a huge ceremony. And with her dad being all but terminal she's doubled down on that decision.
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Jul 31, 2015 19:33
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