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is that gross or profit because one is way, way worse
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Aug 1, 2015 01:49
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sword_man.gif posted:is that gross or profit Its just sales so its gross.
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Aug 1, 2015 02:34
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The reddit thread on the earnings report has some actual discussion going on, I'm impressed. It also has this: quote:I could see how that would be very frustrating. I like to raid in MMOs, but Wildstar's raids really don't do it for me.  Maybe Timetravel has done some stuff where he didn't seem like a colossal rear end, but everything I've seen/heard through this thread makes him seem like a jerkbag.e; The lesson to be learned from all of this is that no matter how badly you have hosed up, you have probably not hosed up as badly as Wildstar. Bombogenesis fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Aug 1, 2015 |
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Aug 1, 2015 02:40
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Yes, because the charismatic rockstar frontman dev has worked out so well in the past and is a thing to be emulated.
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sword_man.gif posted:is that gross or profit It's gross. So yeah that shakes out to slightly more than half a million a month in gross income before expenditures. Unless Carbine is ten dudes or less who aren't being paid very well, Wildstar is hemorrhaging money at this point. edit: check that, my math was silly carbine could probably support 20 or even 30 people on that monthly income! (maybe) edit: no but seriously, I do wonder what the internal politics look like at this point NCSoft does not hesitate to shut down underperformers, especially overseas, so whoever is still at Carbine must be pitching their hearts out over F2P or whatever. And with Gaffney long gone, I'm not even sure who's in control over there anymore I also wonder how big Carbine is now, because for real, that monthly income could maybe support 25 to 30 developers at comfortable, semi-competitive salaries, plus other expenditures. Carbine does not want to be a 10-20 man mom 'n pop developer, they want to be a 100+ Blizzard-like because that's the environment the original founders knew. you don't support that kind of studio on an income of half a million bucks a month hopefully someday we get a tell-all about the internal politics of Wildstar, because this sort of thing fascinates me and what's gone on behind the scenes must be stunning SpaceDrake fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Aug 1, 2015 |
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Aug 1, 2015 04:55
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I hope Cyster is okay.  Or has a second job. Or an entirely new job lined up.
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Aug 1, 2015 06:57
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Anoia posted:I hope Cyster is okay. Lmao if she doesn't.
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Aug 1, 2015 07:06
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Stay safe from Poverty Ghost, Cyster.
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Aug 1, 2015 07:17
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Do anything you can to get out of Carbine Cyster, you are cool.
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Aug 1, 2015 07:33
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I like this thread. It's an 86 page therapy session for goons to come and poo poo all over Wildstar and Carbine while they come to terms with the fact they'll never get that $60 back. Not ever. Those guys might be incompetent, poo poo, horrible, and worthless, but in the end they still got our money. Just kidding I didn't play this poo poo game.
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futile posted:I like this thread. It's an 86 page therapy session for goons to come and poo poo all over Wildstar and Carbine while they come to terms with the fact they'll never get that $60 back. Not ever. Those guys might be incompetent, poo poo, horrible, and worthless, but in the end they still got our money. I thought this was the "suck off Final Fantasy and Guild Wars as hard as you can" thread. An easy mistake to make though.
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Aug 1, 2015 09:51
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SpaceDrake posted:It's gross. If you count things like utilities and office space then they wouldn't be able to support 20 mid salary employees with 600k in revenue and last I heard they ballooned in size before getting axed down some. I think they still had somewhere between 100 and 150 employees.
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Aug 1, 2015 12:28
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futile posted:I like this thread. It's an 86 page therapy session for goons to come and poo poo all over Wildstar and Carbine while they come to terms with the fact they'll never get that $60 back. Not ever. Those guys might be incompetent, poo poo, horrible, and worthless, but in the end they still got our money. Star Citizen thread is thataway.
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I really wish this would happen with a failed MMO like Wildstar, Vanguard or the countless other games that have failed. MMOs are such massive project with huge staffs, frequently lead by some weirdo with a big ego but no management skills. On top of that these games tends to cultivate communities that need careful management or they will just about go insane and do their damnedest to burn the whole thing down. Watching these games fail is kind of intriguing, and an honest tell all from someone in upper management is definitely something I would buy. Of course, that wont happen since it seems like the golden rule for upper management is that as long as you dont criticize anyone else there will always be a job waiting for you some where, no matter how bad you gently caress up.
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The term "failing upwards" gets applied to such project leads a lot, and it's depressingly apt.
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Had a close one - I tried the free trial and really enjoyed it. Then I hopped on the internet and realized I'm supposed to hate this game. Uninstalled that poo poo immediately.
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central posted:Had a close one - I tried the free trial and really enjoyed it. Then I hopped on the internet and realized I'm supposed to hate this game. Uninstalled that poo poo immediately. That's the thing: There is bits that are great, but with idiocy from carbine the game has made too many stupid things for that to matter.
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Aug 1, 2015 15:59
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after a whole loving year I finally get attuned to the piece of poo poo first raid. Hardcore as gently caress cupcake. and after a year the first raid is still having problems. Someone said in chat that one of the bosses glitched out and it took them 17 minutes to kill it. HARDCORE.
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noELrunes posted:after a whole loving year I finally get attuned to the piece of poo poo first raid. Hardcore as gently caress cupcake. Playing Wildstar for a year is a really strange way of ruining yourself. Most people just drink themselves to death or go on one huge coke fueled bender and get it over with.
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Aug 1, 2015 17:04
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SumYungGui posted:Playing Wildstar for a year is a really strange way of ruining yourself. Most people just drink themselves to death or go on one huge coke fueled bender and get it over with. I stopped playing for nearly 6 months and came back and got a lucky string of people looking to do the world bosses and that "hidden" boss in one of the dungeons. Otherwise I'd just log in, talk poo poo and log out. The game has really gone down in the shitter and people were wondering if F2P will save it (it won't) They were talking about playing other MMO's like ToS and FF 14 though.
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You came back to Wildstar voluntarily, and paid for it. Should probably give that drinking yourself to death thing another look.
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Morglon posted:I thought this was the "suck off Final Fantasy and Guild Wars as hard as you can" thread. An easy mistake to make though. My god, I have learned in this past year to never mention you didn't like FFXIV to goons who play it. They never shut up about it. Deki fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Aug 2, 2015 |
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Aug 2, 2015 20:47
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Deki posted:My god, I have learned in this past year to never mention you didn't like FFXIV to goons who play it. They never shut up about it. Don't mention Final Fantasy at all, just to be safe.
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Deki posted:My god, I have learned in this past year to never mention you didn't like FFXIV to goons who play it. They never shut up about it. Why the gently caress don't you like ffxiv. Idiot
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Aug 2, 2015 23:06
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I can understand not trying it, but you are a dumb fuuk if you think it's bad
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Anime allergy is a serious condition.
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This is just sad https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/128986-ive-bought-9-copies-of-wildstar-this-week/
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Rexicon1 posted:I can understand not trying it, but you are a dumb fuuk if you think it's bad All mumorpurgers are bad
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qnqnx posted:All mumorpurgers are bad Oh hey Yahtzee. It's true though, they are and by design.
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Byolante posted:So they have done plants vs zombies, harvest moon and now farmville. Whats next, puzzle and dragons? Pandemic but with the undead plague.
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blablablabla posted:This is just sad Picking up those boxes for a 50% discount on your monthly sub is pretty reasonable really. Buying 20 months worth of subscription for a game that is going f2p very soon though? What on earth is wrong with these people?
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One might argue that even when it does a subscription at that price could still be a decent bonus people who play a lot might want. Of course all of that is assuming that the f2p conversion will not be total poo poo and actually save the game.
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Morglon posted:One might argue that even when it does a subscription at that price could still be a decent bonus people who play a lot might want. Of course all of that is assuming that the f2p conversion will not be total poo poo and actually save the game. Their answer to the confusing stat system was to make stats even more confusing, so now it's not so much a question of if they gently caress up F2P as how badly they gently caress it up.
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Well some people still seem to like it and at this point I firmly believe that nothing short of Carbine thugs actually breaking into their homes and literally burning them alive will stop them from liking it.
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BigPaddy posted:Pandemic but with the undead plague. I'd be completely okay with this. Now, which location in Azeroth is Madagascar?
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Aug 3, 2015 17:23
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Shadowlyger posted:I'd be completely okay with this. Duotar
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Shadowlyger posted:I'd be completely okay with this. That island off the coast of the barrens with the punchsports that I have no idea what its for because I never made an alliance character.
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Aug 3, 2015 18:01
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https://twitter.com/micahwhipple/status/628234799535165442 Micah Whipple is former Blizzard CM Bashiok. Discuss.
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30.5 Days posted:https://twitter.com/micahwhipple/status/628234799535165442 Bashiok's first ever post on the official forums was to give me a 3 day probation for leading a forum invasion of the next realm forum down alphabetically.
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