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Genocide Tendency posted:And thats still loving stupid. Might go to prison isn't justification to murder a cop. However gunning down a cop might make other cops a little more nervous about approaching a car they pulled over. You don't think that nonviolent offenders being killed on traffic stops makes criminals more likely to draw first?
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I'm not gonna lie. "Actually I AM a racist" isn't the response I expected from the person complaining about the accusation of racism being thrown around too casually. Well played.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:06
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Toasticle posted:Can watch it on his website at Regent University http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/faculty_staff/duane.cfm I...yes, Regent University. Regent University. Regent University. This is not a good source of information other than a black helicopter flyover timetable.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:11
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Discendo Vox posted:I...yes, Regent University. Regent University. Regent University. This is not a good source of information other than a black helicopter flyover timetable. Alright I guess spill your guts when you talk to the cops, who needs a lawyer there anyway. Edit: Not that it matters I guess but the guy graduated from Harvard Law, he teaches at Regent. But since he teaches at lovely school its safe to ignore him? Toasticle fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Aug 3, 2015 |
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Aug 3, 2015 19:17
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Agrajag posted:Why in the gently caress would he approach a traffic accident with a weapon drawn? What the gently caress America? The same thing happened to my friend and his dad after their brakes went out and they crashed. The cop who showed up immediately drew her gun and checked to see if the car was stolen. My friend was a high school student, and the father a middle aged hospital manager...something tells me the cop probably wouldn't have been so fearful and suspicious if my friend and his dad were white. But even then, you never know.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:19
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Cole posted:Yeah but check it out dude. If you ever say something racist, like ever, you are immediately discredited for the rest of your life and can never make a comment on racism ever again. Ever.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:20
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Mavric posted:How much credit should one give to a racists opinion on racism? Humans make mistakes, sure he's a bigot and racist but we all make mistakes! Just like police, we're all humans who are racist and kill people for no reason, give us a break! SedanChair posted:And getting sent to prison might make felons a little more nervous about letting cops live. It's nothing more than cop logic turned around. You should understand and support it. He's too stupid to understand that his logic is flawed, the logic only works if it's in favor of cops, duh! Rah! posted:The same thing happened to my friend and his dad after their brakes went out and they crashed. The cop who showed up immediately drew her gun and checked to see if the car was stolen. My friend was a high school student, and the father a middle aged hospital manager...something tells me the cop probably wouldn't have been so fearful and suspicious if my friend and his dad were white. But even then, you never know. It's a coincidence that minorities tend to have more stories about being handcuffed, having guns pointed at them, and being beat up by police for no reason. The police are just enforcing the laws, you don't know what kind of crazy poo poo these people are up to when they appear to need help, it could be some sort of trap! edit: Police are great at ruining lives even when they're not killing people! http://anewdomain.net/2015/08/02/ted-rall-lapd-la-times-second-enhanced-tape-reveals-all/
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Aug 3, 2015 19:27
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Radish posted:I'm not gonna lie. "Actually I AM a racist" isn't the response I expected from the person complaining about the accusation of racism being thrown around too casually. The problem is when someone voices any opinion that a cop might not be wrong, racism is a first resort. Whether or not that is the case. Lets get this straight. I don't support cops shooting people because they are black. I support cops doing their job right. I support punishing cops who violate the laws/regulations. Great example is the University of Cincinnati officer who got rung up for murder charges. He straight up executed a dude for not letting the cop open his door. On the other hand, when a pack of cops sent 300 plus rounds into a Volvo to kill Adrian Montesano and his accomplice I'm willing to accept that it was a job well done. The issue here is I don't immediately think that a cop was wrong. I want to know what happened and make a decision based on that. Which has been deemed unacceptable by the echo chamber. By the by. Thanks in advance for reporting this post because disagreeing with the group think is against the rules.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:29
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Genocide Tendency posted:And thats still loving stupid. Might go to prison isn't justification to murder a cop. However gunning down a cop might make other cops a little more nervous about approaching a car they pulled over. Well no loving poo poo. People aren't justifying the murder of a cop. That would be ridiculous. You amaze me.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:30
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No I was definitely justifying it, using cop logic.Genocide Tendency posted:The problem is when someone voices any opinion that a cop might not be wrong, racism is a first resort. Whether or not that is the case. Why would we trust your opinion on who is racist or not? You're an avowed blatant racist. There are many gradations of person less racist than you, who you would call "not racist."
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ElCondemn posted:Police are great at ruining lives even when they're not killing people! On the other hand, it's Ted Rall.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:32
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Is there any chance that this person doesn't get arrested on sight, is given time to confer with his friends to get his story straight, then doesn't get indicted due to the help of a friendly prosecutor, and eventually goes free to harass more cops? No? Then there's nothing to be outraged over. It's never a good thing that someone is murdered, the issue has always been the disparate treatment for cops after the fact.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:34
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Senf posted:Well no loving poo poo. From the previous page.... SedanChair posted:Justify it? Ok. It sounds like the passenger was going to go to prison for weed. Who should be expected to just accept that? You were saying? SedanChair posted:No I was definitely justifying it, using cop logic. You keep ignoring the point.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:35
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SedanChair posted:No I was definitely justifying it, using cop logic. I get that. But using real logic? Genocide Tendency posted:You were saying? Like he said: he was applying cop logic to his post. If anything, you should probably be in agreement with him. Senf fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Aug 3, 2015 |
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Aug 3, 2015 19:36
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Genocide Tendency posted:I love reading the hypocrisy in this thread. http://nbc4i.com/2015/07/31/friends-family-set-up-memorial-for-murdered-delivery-driver/ A far more common story than a cop getting killed.
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Aug 3, 2015 19:36
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Genocide Tendency posted:You keep ignoring the point. Your point has no salience because you are a racist. You are not qualified to judge whether things are racist. By being dumber than dog whistling racists and openly admitting to this, you've lost the ability even to pretend to have a valuable opinion on the matter. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 3, 2015 19:37
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Aug 3, 2015 19:39
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Cole posted:Yeah but check it out dude. If you ever say something racist, like ever, you are immediately discredited for the rest of your life and can never make a comment on racism ever again. Ever. Yes, if someone posts all the time in the horrible racist subforum, then it's probably safe to assume they are a horrible racist (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 3, 2015 19:41
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I can't believe people don't listen to my opinions on racism - a literal racist, lol
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Aug 3, 2015 19:45
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"People hate me for the content of my opinions! How is that fair?" - a person who hates people for the color of their skin (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 3, 2015 19:46
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Genocide Tendency posted:The problem is when someone voices any opinion that a cop might not be wrong, racism is a first resort. Whether or not that is the case. This is because humans are capable of recognizing a thing we call a "pattern" When the dozenth unarmed black person is shot to death, while white people can point guns and cops and scream without issue, one starts to think that maybe there's some racism there!
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Aug 3, 2015 19:48
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I'm just putting Genocide Tendency and Cole on ignore. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I'm going to explain this because, not surprisingly, many of you are too loving stupid to understand.Genocide Tendency posted:The problem is when someone voices any opinion that a cop might not be wrong, racism is a first resort. Whether or not that is the case. This is a problem. You had to go digging through post history, eventually finding a post in another sub forum, to decide that I was racist. You did so because I said that a cop isn't automatically wrong for shooting someone. The circumstances dictate justification or lack of. But all you focus on is racism that was dug up. Because you have no other voice when someone presents a differing opinion. It renders every ounce of effort you put out irrelevant. Because all you can do is scream the scarlet R. Rather than admit that possibly, just possibly, sometimes, a cop should shoot someone. I will admit I am partially wrong. Racism isn't your first resort. Its your only resort. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Announcing that you're putting them on ignore only makes them more powerful. And gets some weirdo to quote your post and mention that the ignore function is for babies or something.
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Why don't you care more about the delivery driver death I just posted? It happens far more frequently than cop death and it happens to people with far less of a support network, both formal and informal.
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Genocide Tendency posted:I'm going to explain this because, not surprisingly, many of you are too loving stupid to understand. Nobody cares about your opinions because you seem to be an unrepentant racist, not because you are saying something no one agrees with. You aren't even the first person in this thread to say that sometimes cops need to shoot people (several pages on the cops not shooting the armed cop who murdered his wife in front of them.) You didn't read the thread because you aren't interested in an honest debate on this topic. Probably because you are a racist. People tend to throw that word around when racist people do or say racist things. Hope this helps.
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Genocide Tendency posted:I'm going to explain this because, not surprisingly, many of you are too loving stupid to understand. Going back like, six posts isn't really "digging." Your blatant racism is pretty straightforward and easily traceable. If you want to have an honest discussion about something - and especially a topic like this - you should stop being a racist.
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Genocide Tendency posted:I'm going to explain this because, not surprisingly, many of you are too loving stupid to understand. "You're racist" is generally all you're going to hear, because that is what you are.
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Aug 3, 2015 20:09
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Genocide Tendency posted:This is a problem. Is anyone claiming that cops should not shoot anyone ever? The "cops are racist" narrative comes from over 100 years of disproportionate and racist application of deadly force. Big shocker.
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ToastyPotato posted:Nobody cares about your opinions because you seem to be an unrepentant racist, not because you are saying something no one agrees with. You aren't even the first person in this thread to say that sometimes cops need to shoot people (several pages on the cops not shooting the armed cop who murdered his wife in front of them.) I did read, and as soon as I responded in this thread, the first loving thing brought up was race. When I disputed this, I was told I didn't understand racism. Then posters went hunting in GIP for a racist remark. Here... Genocide Tendency posted:What is this post? Thats where I jumped in. Racism was brought up by the echo chamber because I pointed out that suicide isn't murder by cop. Senf posted:Going back like, six posts isn't really "digging." Your blatant racism is pretty straightforward and easily traceable. Going back to the previous page to see where someone justified shooting a cop interrupting their drug deal is pretty easily traceable. But obviously you couldn't be assed to do that. If you want to have an honest discussion about something, maybe you should actually be paying attention.
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Genocide Tendency posted:Going back to the previous page to see where someone justified shooting a cop interrupting their drug deal is pretty easily traceable. But obviously you couldn't be assed to do that. If you didn't see that they were trying to prove a point with that post, then I don't have much for you. Hell, I don't have much for you in the first place.
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Genocide Tendency posted:I did read, and as soon as I responded in this thread, the first loving thing brought up was race. Genocide Tendency posted:What is this post? Discendo Vox posted:They're both still active, FYI- though a lot of their output has been quite poor. Mecha Gojira posted:She was pulled over for not signaling, which might as well be a "Driving While Black" offense. Then she spends three days in jail and is found dead from an apparent hanging. Mecha Gojira posted:They arrested her for assaulting one of the arresting officers (she allegedly kicked one of them). The only video we have, though, is of the immediate aftermath, so we can't verify either way yet. ....if your going to try to mislead about what happened, learn from crooked cops and don't debate a recorded medium. Btw, do you still contend there is not a pro-police bias in the US?
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Trabisnikof posted:....if your going to try to mislead about what happened, learn from crooked cops and don't debate a recorded medium. Mecha Gojira posted:She was pulled over for not signaling, which might as well be a "Driving While Black" offense. Then she spends three days in jail and is found dead from an apparent hanging. You were saying? quote:Btw, do you still contend there is not a pro-police bias in the US? Yep.
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Jesus Christ, both of you stop with the public jerk offs. Genocide - Yes, it is wrong to jump to the initial conclusion of racism when a white cop shoots a black unarmed man under suspicious circumstances. The counter point to this is that police have been complicit and actively involved in precipitating racist behavior since the dawn of the 20th century at minimum. This is easily proven through the various reports the DoJustice has run in L. A., Ferguson, and Baltimore to name three off the top of my head. And that's not even touching the history of cops committing what would be murder if it weren't for the badge, and doing so with little to no reprisal. Thankfully that page is starting to turn, it only took ~50ish unarmed black men being shot in the last year and two cities suffering major riots, and in those last two times the officer was indicted, it took video footage from a bystander and from a body camera to even reach that point. To everyone else dogpiling him, yes he's an unrepentant racist. That does not inherently render his argument invalid. And the more you keep dogpiling his past posting, the more he's going to double down on you. If you think he's wrong, attack his logic.
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Genocide Tendency posted:I did read, and as soon as I responded in this thread, the first loving thing brought up was race. When I disputed this, I was told I didn't understand racism. Then posters went hunting in GIP for a racist remark. They brought up your racism specifically it seems. Which is pretty justifiable in a conversation like this. You seem to not be understanding that people specifically do not care about your opinion in this discussion because you have unrepentantly made racist remarks. Your opinion is greatly invalidated due to your history, which is known, and which you don't seem to have disputed in any way, other than taking issue with the fact that it was dug up. Raerlynn posted:Jesus Christ, both of you stop with the public jerk offs. Who cares if he doubles down? What happens? Do we lose points somewhere? Is there someone keeping score out there? Racism would render his INTENT invalid. In other words, as a racist, he cannot possibly be engaging in a discussion that deals heavily with the issue of systemic racism in any way that could be seen as productive. It's pointless. The best thing to do in that situation is to let it be known and move on. No one is going to make someone see the errors of their ways in a thread like this, on a site like this. ToastyPotato fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Aug 3, 2015 |
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Raerlynn posted:If you think he's wrong, attack his logic. Because the one thing racists are known to respond to is logic.
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Useful Distraction posted:Because the one thing racists are known to respond to is logic. Yes the dogpiling of some guy on the Internet is sure to convince him to change his ways and get his heart to grow three sizes this day! That or it's pointless circle jerking. You be the judge.
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Raerlynn posted:Yes the dogpiling of some guy on the Internet is sure to convince him to change his ways and get his heart to grow three sizes this day! So the racists get to argue in bad faith, and the normals have to argue in good faith?
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