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Boon: Jun 21, 2005; by R. Guyovich

I wonder what he thought of paying taxes.

# ? Aug 1, 2015 14:02

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 21:43

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; bone shaking.
soul baking.

buttplug posted:

Yokosuka plays both the US and Japanese national anthems in the morning during colors (well, the ships themselves don't but it is played over the base's big voice and is very audible pretty much anywhere).

I prefer the quick Japanese colors across the harbor versus what we had to do on the American base.

# ? Aug 1, 2015 18:22

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

These colors don't run!* :patriot:

*Unless it's dark out...

# ? Aug 2, 2015 00:00

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Guys..... I think I like my IS unit.

The reserves might not be so bad.

# ? Aug 2, 2015 00:11

Nick Soapdish: Apr 27, 2008

LingcodKilla posted:

Guys..... I think I like my IS unit.

The reserves might not be so bad.

Hail Satan, welcome brother :chiefsay:

# ? Aug 2, 2015 00:20

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Nick Soapdish posted:

Hail Satan, welcome brother

Free peet's coffee and double ply tp wins my allegiance.

# ? Aug 2, 2015 00:36

orange juche: Mar 14, 2012

LingcodKilla posted:

Free peet's coffee and double ply tp wins my allegiance.

What is this bullshit? Navy's going soft :chiefsay:

# ? Aug 2, 2015 00:56

Null Integer: Mar 1, 2006; A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

I'm not the best with my CFL Admin Knowledge KungFu, but can a sailor do an official PRT that isn't with the rest of the command. Example: Command wants to do PRT in OCT, Sailor needs an official PRT before PCS in Sept. I know they do similar things for fat body chief selects, but I'm not sure what any of this falls under.

# ? Aug 2, 2015 06:27

Laranzu: Jan 18, 2002

Null Integer posted:

I'm not the best with my CFL Admin Knowledge KungFu, but can a sailor do an official PRT that isn't with the rest of the command. Example: Command wants to do PRT in OCT, Sailor needs an official PRT before PCS in Sept. I know they do similar things for fat body chief selects, but I'm not sure what any of this falls under.

We've done it before. Only stipulation we had was no one on one tests. Had to have more than one CFL.

All depends on how douchey the command level guy is, but if the guy needs it to xfer he needs it.

# ? Aug 2, 2015 07:00

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Null Integer posted:

I'm not the best with my CFL Admin Knowledge KungFu, but can a sailor do an official PRT that isn't with the rest of the command. Example: Command wants to do PRT in OCT, Sailor needs an official PRT before PCS in Sept. I know they do similar things for fat body chief selects, but I'm not sure what any of this falls under.

Yes, absolutely.

# ? Aug 2, 2015 09:32

Octopode: Sep 2, 2009; No. I work here. I manage operations for this and integration for this, while making sure that their stuff keeps working in here.

New PFA rules starting in cycle 1 of next year it looks like, but current fatties get another shot:

http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/navy/2015/07/30/new-fitness-standards-easier-girth-focus-health/30849729/

# ? Aug 3, 2015 01:08

orange juche: Mar 14, 2012

It's almost like ERB kicked too many people out, isn't it.

# ? Aug 3, 2015 02:05

Null Integer: Mar 1, 2006; A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

Octopode posted:

New PFA rules starting in cycle 1 of next year it looks like, but current fatties get another shot:

http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/navy/2015/07/30/new-fitness-standards-easier-girth-focus-health/30849729/

While it's good for weight and can bring more people to better health, it seems like in true navy fashion had to gently caress over something else in the process. (2 fails in 3 years vs 3 fails in 4 years)

# ? Aug 3, 2015 09:24

Chuckle: Feb 9, 2013

Octopode posted:

New PFA rules starting in cycle 1 of next year it looks like, but current fatties get another shot:

http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/navy/2015/07/30/new-fitness-standards-easier-girth-focus-health/30849729/

The next few pages should be entertaining, thanks for this. :munch:

# ? Aug 3, 2015 10:30

germskr: Oct 23, 2007; HAHAHA! Ahh Eeeee BPOOF!

Octopode posted:

New PFA rules starting in cycle 1 of next year it looks like, but current fatties get another shot:

http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/navy/2015/07/30/new-fitness-standards-easier-girth-focus-health/30849729/

I think there was talk about getting a sticker similar to the half/full marathon? Someone here must have taken this to production..

Only registered members can see post attachments!

# ? Aug 3, 2015 18:52

Nostalgia4Dogges: Jun 18, 2004; Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Want that sticker

# ? Aug 3, 2015 20:22

buttplug: Aug 28, 2004

Normally I wouldn't do this, but since this is a pretty huge change:

quote:

R 031159Z AUG 15
FM CNO WASHINGTON DC
TO NAVADMIN
INFO CNO WASHINGTON DC
BT
UNCLAS
SUBJ/PHYSICAL READINESS PROGRAM POLICY CHANGES//
NAVADMIN 178/15
MSGID/GENADMIN CNO WASHINGTON DC/N1/AUG//
SUBJ/PHYSICAL READINESS PROGRAM POLICY CHANGES//
REF/A/MSG/SECNAV WASHINGTON DC/121505ZJUN15//
REF/B/DOC/OPNAV/11JUL11//
REF/C/DOC/DODI/5NOV02//
NARR/REF A IS ALNAV 050/15, DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY TALENT MANAGEMENT
INITIATIVES. REF B IS OPNAVINST 6110.1J, PHYSICAL READINESS PROGRAM.
REF C IS DODINST 1308.3, DOD PHYSICAL FITNESS AND BODY FAT PROGRAMS
PROCEDURES.
RMKS/1. This NAVADMIN enumerates changes to the Physical Readiness
Program (PRP) as announced in reference (a). Physical Fitness
Assessments (PFAs) should be designed and implemented to assess an
individual Sailors health and mission readiness. The current PFA
model enforces maximum body fat percentages and minimum physical
readiness scores, but falls short on evaluating a Sailors overall
health, and does not adequately reflect the challenges unique to sea
duty and the increasingly technical nature of our jobs. The intent
of these changes is to strike a better balance between health and
physical readiness.
2. Amplifying instructions for Cycle 2 2015 (1 July 2015 to 31
December 2015): Cycle 2 2015 will continue to be administered in
accordance with reference (b) with the following changes:
a. Physical Activity Risk Factor Questionnaire (PARFQ): The
PARFQ process is unchanged. All Sailors will complete a PARFQ as
outlined in reference (b).
b. Body Composition Assessment (BCA): Changes to the BCA are as
follows:
(1) BCA measurements taken in Cycle 2 2015 will be recorded
for monitoring purposes only using the current methodology and BCA
standards outlined in reference (b).
(2) All BCA data will continue to be recorded in the Physical
Readiness Information Management System (PRIMS), regardless of outcome.
(3) BCA measurements exceeding current standards, as outlined
in reference (b), during Cycle 2 2015 ONLY will not count as a Physical
Fitness Assessment (PFA) failure. Sailors who exceed current standards
shall be enrolled in the Fitness Enhancement Program (FEP) and in
nutritional counseling.
c. Physical Readiness Test (PRT): The PRT will continue to be
administered in accordance with reference (b). PRT failures incurred
during Cycle 2 2015 will be documented in PRIMS and count as PFA
failures. PRT changes are as follows:
(1) All medically cleared Sailors shall participate in the PRT
regardless of BCA outcome.
(2) If a Sailor is not medically cleared to participate in the
PRT, this shall be annotated on Medical Waiver Form 6110/4. A Medical
Evaluation Board shall be initiated if required in accordance with
reference (b).
d. Spot Checks: Commanding officers will conduct PFA spot checks.
BCA and PRT failures incurred during a spot check will not count toward
administrative separation, but may result in FEP enrollment to ensure
success during the next official PFA.
e. Fitness Enhancement Program (FEP): The FEP will continue to
be administered in accordance with reference (b) or when commanding
officers deem it necessary.
3. Effective 1 January 2016 (Cycle 1 2016), the following changes to
reference (b) will go into effect:
a. Physical Activity Risk Factor Questionnaire: An updated PARFQ
form will better assist medical providers in assessing a Sailors
overall health. Details will be provided via SEPCOR.
b. Body Composition Assessment (BCA) Methodology: The new method
for measuring BCA will consist of a three-step process. A Sailor who
is medically cleared to participate in the PRT shall do so regardless
of his or her BCA results under any of the three steps discussed below.
(1) Step 1: Apply the current height/weight tables per
reference (b) to a Sailor. If the Sailor is within height/weight
standards, he or she will pass the BCA, steps 2 and 3 will not apply,
and he or she will not be required to enroll in FEP. If the Sailor
does not meet the height/weight standard, proceed to step 2.
(2) Step 2: Apply a single-site abdominal circumference
measurement. Scientific evidence indicates that individuals are at
increased risk for health problems such as diabetes, heart disease,
and cancer if their abdomen exceeds a certain circumference. Thus,
a single-site abdominal circumference measurement will assist in
identifying Sailors who are at risk for health problems. A Sailor
will pass the BCA if abdominal circumference is less than or equal
to 39.0 inches for males and less than or equal to 35.5 inches for
females. If the Sailor exceeds the abdominal circumference
measurement, proceed to step 3.
(3) Step 3: If the Sailor exceeds the height/weight screen
of step 1 and the abdominal circumference measurement screen of step
2, a body circumference measurement shall be conducted. Apply the
body circumference measurement technique to determine body fat
percentage per reference (b). The Sailor will pass the BCA by meeting
the Department of Defense (DoD) maximum allowable body fat limit of
less than or equal to 26 percent for males or DoD maximum body fat
limit of less than or equal to 36 percent for females outlined in
reference (c). The Sailor will fail the BCA only if the Sailor does
not meet any of the standards employed in steps 1, 2, or 3 and shall
be evaluated by a medical provider, enrolled in FEP, and provided
nutritional counseling. All Sailors who are medically cleared,
regardless of BCA results, shall take the PRT. A BCA failure will
constitute an overall PFA failure for the cycle regardless of PRT
results.
c. The Body Circumference Technique currently employed under
reference (b) will continue to be used to determine body fat
percentage. The new Body Fat Standards will be graduated by age,
reflecting a more realistic approach in accordance with DoD guidance,
which is consistent with the American Medical Association and American
Council on Exercise Standards. This approach will allow more Sailors
to participate in the PRT portion of the PFA.
New Navy Body Fat Percentage Standards based on a graduated scale that
increases with a Sailors age:
(1) Males: 18-21 = 22 percent, 22-29 = 23 percent, 30-39 =
24 percent, 40+ = 26 percent.
(2) Females: 18-21 = 33 percent, 22-29 = 34 percent, 30-39
= 35 percent, 40+ = 36 percent.
Any Sailor who exceeds the Navys updated graduated body fat standards
set forth above shall be enrolled in FEP.
(3) The Physical Readiness Program Operating Guides will be
updated and Command Fitness Leaders will be trained on how to accurately
conduct the single site abdominal circumference measurement.
(4) In summary, effective 1 January 2016, a Sailor will have
three options regarding BCA measurement: height/weight screening,
single-site abdominal circumference measurement, and the body
circumference measurement.
d. Physical Readiness Test (PRT): The PRT will continue to be
administered in accordance with reference (b). All Sailors cleared
by their medical providers through the Physical Health Assessment
(PHA) and PARFQ processes shall take the PRT, regardless of BCA
outcome.
e. Fitness Enhancement Program (FEP): Sailors shall be enrolled
in FEP for any of the following reasons:
(1) Exceeding the updated graduated Navy Body Fat Standards; or
(2) Failing any portion of the PRT.
Sailors enrolled in FEP due to BCA failure shall also be enrolled in
nutritional counseling. All Sailors enrolled in FEP will be required
to participate in a mock PFA every 30 days. Failures incurred during
a mock PFA will not count as official failures. A Sailor will be
disenrolled from FEP when he or she passes the PRT and is within the
new Navy BCA standards.
f. PFA Failure Determination for Administrative Separation
Processing: Effective 1 January 2016, all PFA (BCA or PRT) failures
in the most recent 3-year period will be reset to one failure. A
Sailors most recent failure will carry over to Cycle 1 2016. Note:
A Cycle 2 2015 BCA failure will not count as a carry-over failure,
but a PRT failure incurred in Cycle 2 2015 will count as a carry-over
failure.
g. Administrative Separation Policy Guidance:
(1) Effective 1 January 2016, a Sailor who fails two PFA cycles
in the most recent 3-year period shall be processed for administrative
separation. Failing either the BCA or the PRT will constitute a PFA
failure for the cycle in which it is incurred.
(2) Effective immediately, a Sailor subject to an approved or
pending administrative separation due to multiple PFA (BCA or PRT)
failures, who has not yet been separated, shall be offered the
opportunity to be retained. A Sailor who desires to separate from the
Navy will continue processing for administrative separation. A Sailor
who desires to be retained must notify his or her commanding officer,
be medically cleared to participate in the PRT, and pass either a mock
or the official PRT before 1 December 2015. All mock PFA data shall
be recorded in PRIMS under the FEP tab in each Sailors profile. A
Sailor who does not meet present Navy BCA requirements as outlined in
reference (b) must be cleared by his or her medical provider to
participate in the Cycle 2 2015 PRT.
(a) If the Sailor is not medically cleared to participate
in the PRT, this shall be annotated on Medical Waiver Form 6110/4.
A Medical Evaluation Board shall be initiated if required in accordance
with reference (b). If a Sailor failed the Cycle 1 2015 BCA, the
Sailor shall be automatically enrolled in FEP.
(b) During FEP, the Sailor shall participate in a mock PFA
every 30 days. The deadline to pass either a mock or the official
PRT is 1 December 2015.
(c) If a Sailor does not pass either a mock or the official
PRT by 1 December 2015, the failure will be recorded in PRIMS. If a
Sailor who was pending administrative separation as of 1 July 2015 does
not pass either a mock or the official PRT by 1 December 2015, he or
she will continue to be processed for administrative separation. A
Sailor who fails any portion of the PRT during Cycle 2 2015 will incur
a failure for the PFA, and the failure will count toward administrative
separation. The current Navy administrative separation standard of
three failures in the most recent four-year period will continue in
effect through 31 December 2015.
(d) Effective 1 January 2016, all PFA failures in the most
recent 3-year period will be reset to one failure.
4. Future Planned Changes:
a. Developing a Navy-wide Registered Dietician (RD) utilization
plan;
b. Enhancing SHIPSHAPE and encouraging approved civilian diet
programs;
c. Establishing Go for Green healthy-eating ashore and at sea;
d. Providing more support for post-partum Sailors to re-attain
or exceed previous fitness goals;
e. Wearable-fitness device studies to monitor physical output
and rest;
f. Enhance Physical Readiness Test; and
g. Fitness awards for Sailors who score outstanding.
5. In the long-term, the Navy strives to move away from PFA testing
as a calculation of BCA maximums and PRT minimums, to a more realistic
measure of health, fitness, and mission readiness. To do this, the
Navy will incorporate methods of assessing sleep patterns, activity,
nutrition, and genetic risk factors.
6. For questions, please contact the Physical Readiness Program Help
Desk at (901) 874-2210/DSN 882 or via e-mail at navyprt(at)navy.mil.
Physical Readiness Program polices, operating guides and FAQs can be
found on the NPC 21st Century Sailor web page http://www.npc.navy.mil/
bupers-npc/support/21st_Century_Sailor/physical/Pages/default2.aspx.
7. Released by Vice Admiral W. F. Moran, N1.//
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buttplug fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Aug 3, 2015

# ? Aug 3, 2015 21:27

maffew buildings: Apr 29, 2009; too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

Hope your human being chit was in order before posting that, sir

# ? Aug 3, 2015 21:42

Thronde: Aug 4, 2012; Fun Shoe

As an aging sailor, I'm sort of glad for the new regs. But at the same time I have no trouble maintaining 170-175lbs. So gently caress em.

# ? Aug 3, 2015 23:33

Nwabudike Morgan: Dec 31, 2007

at 22 i can now be almost 1/4th fat

# ? Aug 4, 2015 00:59

buttplug: Aug 28, 2004

maffew buildings posted:

Hope your human being chit was in order before posting that, sir

LOL nobles don't route chits.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 02:43

DustyNuts: Jun 1, 2000; Have you seen me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRgNQUOCeRI

Took a 72 hour liberty to see Faith No More last night in Maryland, it was loving great. Back to work tomorrow.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 03:17

Wingnut Ninja: Jan 11, 2003; Mostly Harmless

germskr posted:

I think there was talk about getting a sticker similar to the half/full marathon? Someone here must have taken this to production..

There are a ton of places that sell these online if you Google it. I was really tempted to get one too, but now I just do the bike. :btroll:

buttplug posted:

A Sailor will pass the BCA if abdominal circumference is less than or equal to 39.0 inches for males and less than or equal to 35.5 inches for females.

That sounds even more hilariously unequal than the old (now step 3) method. gently caress it, one number for everyone! If you're 5'1" you can be drat near spherical.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 03:19

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Wingnut Ninja posted:

There are a ton of places that sell these online if you Google it. I was really tempted to get one too, but now I just do the bike.

That sounds even more hilariously unequal than the old (now step 3) method. gently caress it, one number for everyone! If you're 5'1" you can be drat near spherical.

Doesnt this allow the really ripped dudes with huge necks to not get hosed?

# ? Aug 4, 2015 04:12

Wingnut Ninja: Jan 11, 2003; Mostly Harmless

LingcodKilla posted:

Doesnt this allow the really ripped dudes with huge necks to not get hosed?

Having a huge neck is good for the old system, it's a skinny neck with a big gut that makes you fail.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 04:27

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Having a huge neck is good for the old system, it's a skinny neck with a big gut that makes you fail.

Oh oops. I got a huge neck and 37 inch waist so I was marginally worried. I'm tipping the scales at 205 right now but I have absolutely no problem with my PRT.

Any other reservist hear anything about "internal security" or some such? When my unit found out what I did in my old job they asked me if I would be interested in some seminar or training on the matter. Said it was in response to the NOSC shooting back east.
I just want to play with networks and go to C-school. Sigh.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 04:34

Null Integer: Mar 1, 2006; A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

LingcodKilla posted:

Oh oops. I got a huge neck and 37 inch waist so I was marginally worried. I'm tipping the scales at 205 right now but I have absolutely no problem with my PRT.

Any other reservist hear anything about "internal security" or some such? When my unit found out what I did in my old job they asked me if I would be interested in some seminar or training on the matter. Said it was in response to the NOSC shooting back east.
I just want to play with networks and go to C-school. Sigh.

Here is your webbelt, flak jacket, combat helmet and a batton . Don't let anyone brown through, see you in 8 hours. Make sure you log everything and your batton's serial number.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 05:41

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Null Integer posted:

Here is your webbelt, flak jacket, combat helmet and a batton . Don't let anyone brown through, see you in 8 hours. Make sure you log everything and your batton's serial number.

I should have told them I worked in a porn store.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 05:42

Laranzu: Jan 18, 2002

Saw some posts. Realized buttplug posted a navadmin. Reset last read to end of thread.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 08:48

Null Integer: Mar 1, 2006; A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

Laranzu posted:

Saw some posts. Realized buttplug posted a navadmin. Reset last read to end of thread.

Nothing of value was lost.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 10:51

Null Integer: Mar 1, 2006; A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

LingcodKilla posted:

I should have told them I worked in a porn store.

Here is your webbelt, flak jacket, combat helmet and a dildo. Don't let anyone brown through, see you in 8 hours. Make sure you log everything and the dildo's serial number.

Edit: It's not "your" dildo, it's a dildo. Always use the non-possessive.

Null Integer fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Aug 4, 2015

# ? Aug 4, 2015 12:32

maffew buildings: Apr 29, 2009; too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

buttplug posted:

LOL nobles don't route chits.

Status of perma faggotry received on commission, got it. I'm learning so much

# ? Aug 4, 2015 14:33

Pandasmores: May 8, 2009

Finally, the fat rear end with a 25 inch neck will get put on FEP regardless of his uniform stretching rear end meeting 21%.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 15:37

maffew buildings: Apr 29, 2009; too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

I remember when I was stupid enough to think I would be around highly fit people in my job and welp.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 15:44

Kawasaki Nun: Jul 16, 2001; by Reene

maffew buildings posted:

I remember when I was stupid enough to think I would be around highly fit people in my job and welp.

Heh when I got to my A school I was blown away by the submarine landwhales that stalked the corridors there. Being a khaki submarine nuke seemed to insulate them from weight regs pretty effectively

# ? Aug 4, 2015 19:24

Stultus Maximus: Dec 21, 2009; USPOL May

Pandasmores posted:

Finally, the fat rear end with a 25 inch neck will get put on FEP regardless of his uniform stretching rear end meeting 21%.

Nope, if they fail the gut check they get a chance to pass the regular rope and choke.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 20:13

Nostalgia4Dogges: Jun 18, 2004; Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

We have this argument a lot but I'll just skip all the bullshit and say

Every person I've seen fail the weight or tape was fat as gently caress.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 20:23

PneumonicBook: Sep 26, 2007; Do you like our owl?; Ultra Carp

Kawasaki Nun posted:

Heh when I got to my A school I was blown away by the submarine landwhales that stalked the corridors there. Being a khaki submarine nuke seemed to insulate them from weight regs pretty effectively

Every single sub rerate we get is enormous.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:49

vulturesrow: Sep 25, 2011; _{Always gotta pay it forward.}

Posting a whole loving NAVADMIN that everyone in here is going to have heard of or already read should be grounds for probation, if not banning.

# ? Aug 5, 2015 04:33

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 21:43

Laranzu: Jan 18, 2002

vulturesrow posted:

Posting a whole loving NAVADMIN that everyone in here is going to have heard of or already read should be grounds for probation, if not banning.

Being buttplug should be a probatable offense

# ? Aug 5, 2015 05:56

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