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Junkfist posted:I am going to make Max tongue-dart Warren's apehole. 
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Check out this flowchart describing all the branching possibilities from the conversation with Frank in episode 4. It's really impressive. Here's the link to the full size. I'd post the actual image but it would break the thread. http://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Life-Is-Strange-Frank-flowchart.jpg Taken from this article http://venturebeat.com/2015/08/04/the-ridiculous-design-behind-a-key-scene-in-life-is-strange/
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Aug 5, 2015 03:12
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I actually had to walk away from the game after the euthanasia choice. I actually muted the game and went back and forth on it for a half hour before I finally decided to let her die. Had to put it down after that. Finally went back to it today. Jesus. Step on that poo poo, DONTNOD, I need to know how this ends ASAP. (And please don't make it the Donnie Darko ending.)
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Aug 5, 2015 04:01
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I think at least one of the endings will be a good one. Everyone is all about the theory that Chloe has to die because that's what the universe wants. I think it's the opposite, since Max only gets her powers in order to save Chloe. So I think the good ending is getting Chloe to survive. And I don't think Max would die in any of the endings.
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Aug 5, 2015 05:01
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In Episode 5, you will choose from the appropriate photos to rewind back to. The people who chose the selfie in Episode 1 will be forced to replay the entirety of Episodes 1-4 up to the point where they get the choice again in Episode 5. The true ending only happens if you do this for another full loop and manage to keep Lisa and the bluebird alive in all three runthroughs.
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Aug 5, 2015 06:48
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TastyLemonDrops posted:In Episode 5, you will choose from the appropriate photos to rewind back to. The people who chose the selfie in Episode 1 will be forced to replay the entirety of Episodes 1-4 up to the point where they get the choice again in Episode 5. The true ending only happens if you do this for another full loop and manage to keep Lisa and the bluebird alive in all three runthroughs.
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Aug 5, 2015 06:52
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TastyLemonDrops posted:In Episode 5, you will choose from the appropriate photos to rewind back to. That's pretty much looking to be a thing in the episode, because one of the preview photos is of her staring at a wall of her own polaroids. I wonder if Nathan breaking in and painting over some of them in an early episode might affect that.
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Aug 5, 2015 06:54
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theblackw0lf posted:Check out this flowchart describing all the branching possibilities from the conversation with Frank in episode 4. It's really impressive. That's starting to remind me of the various flowcharts for Primer (which Warren recommends to Max, bless him, what a great movie.)
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Aug 5, 2015 07:08
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Did Warren take a selfie with everyone before the party?
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Aug 5, 2015 07:21
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theblackw0lf posted:Check out this flowchart describing all the branching possibilities from the conversation with Frank in episode 4. It's really impressive. My only problem with the Frank scene is that I should be able to just take the list from his dead body and rewind, so we never have to deal with him at all. It seemed weird that Chloe didn't even suggest rewinding when she was freaking out about shooting him. Clearly, the optimal solution is to execute Frank without a word, take all his stuff, and then rewind, keeping all the spoils  . The times when the game forgets its own rules are a bit annoying, but apart from that I loved this episode as much as everybody else.
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Aug 5, 2015 09:38
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SimonChris posted:My only problem with the Frank scene is that I should be able to just take the list from his dead body and rewind, so we never have to deal with him at all. It seemed weird that Chloe didn't even suggest rewinding when she was freaking out about shooting him. Clearly, the optimal solution is to execute Frank without a word, take all his stuff, and then rewind, keeping all the spoils Yeah, there is literally no reason you shouldn't be able to take the list off of Chloe and rewind the entire scene to the beginning.
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Aug 5, 2015 09:45
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I think the reason is they didn't think you would do that. In the first ep the room itself you can learn something about chloe by crashing the snowglobe, but then you can rewind time. Earlier you can pocket an item by rewinding time. You can get the cd this way and turn on music before the conversation. But it still acts like you haven't done so.
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Aug 5, 2015 17:00
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I think the reason is they didn't think you would do that. You outright have to do this to get Frank's RV keys in the previous episode.
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Aug 5, 2015 17:03
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You outright have to do this to get Frank's RV keys in the previous episode. If they didn't forget it, then they arbitrarily wanted you to do it this way regardless of the mechanics.
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Aug 5, 2015 17:07
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The reason is that Chloe has to get her gun back, and since she grabs it not Max, she loses it when you rewind
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Aug 5, 2015 17:13
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Ekusukariba posted:The reason is that Chloe has to get her gun back, and since she grabs it not Max, she loses it when you rewind That's a non-issue with the simple phrase "hey Chloe, give me the journal".
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Aug 5, 2015 17:14
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Neddy Seagoon posted:That's a non-issue with the simple phrase "hey Chloe, give me the journal". Gun, not journal. Dontnod wanted Chloe to have her gun for the last part of the episode, and the encounter with Frank serves to make sure she has it, regardless of your previous choices. So they ignored the established mechanic in order to force you to deal with Frank. With the way Max talks about not relying on the rewind power before they see Frank, I wonder if it wasn't originally intended to be a "no rewind" section like with Kate?
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Aug 5, 2015 17:39
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Varam posted:Gun, not journal. Dontnod wanted Chloe to have her gun for the last part of the episode, and the encounter with Frank serves to make sure she has it, regardless of your previous choices. So they ignored the established mechanic in order to force you to deal with Frank. That would have made a lot of sense. As it is, the only reason to ever leave Frank dead is out of morbid curiosity.
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Aug 5, 2015 18:12
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CottonWolf posted:That would have made a lot of sense. As it is, the only reason to ever leave Frank dead is out of morbid curiosity.
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Aug 5, 2015 18:15
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Accordion Man posted:Or sticking to your guns and never rewinding for big decisions like me. Hopefully I don't get some weird rear end janky plot branch because I'm the minority choice. Its a single player game and you should play however you want, but why do this? Time travel and looking at all the options are baked into the story. Did you reload whenever you "died" in Planescape: Torment? At any rate, you will, hopefully, have an interesting story branch in episode 5. -edit- exquisite tea posted:And despite Frank softening up to you a little, he's still a drug dealer and at the end of the day he's still gonna probably want his $5000. Torgo2727 fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Aug 5, 2015 |
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Aug 5, 2015 18:27
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I think Dontnod just plain left out that option with Frank because it would have led to a much easier, quicker solution that everyone would have taken unequivocally without bothering to explore the dialogue branches that they painstakingly created. Also if you notice it's Chloe who runs off with the notebook, so it technically does not violate the "all choices aren't permanent until you leave the area" rule, although Max could have probably just taken it herself on the next go-round. In conclusion, video games. And despite Frank softening up to you a little, he's still a drug dealer and at the end of the day he's still gonna probably want his $5000.
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Aug 5, 2015 18:28
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Torgo2727 posted:Its a single player game and you should play however you want, but why do this? Time travel and looking at all the options are baked into the story. Did you reload whenever you "died" in Planescape: Torment?
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Aug 5, 2015 18:33
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Torgo2727 posted:Look at this nerd that doesn't believe in the power of friendship and doesn't steal from the handicapped fund to repay a drug dealer. I like that you can steal the handicap fund money and then just... keep it. Sorry, Frank, but Max needs a fancy new camera!
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Aug 5, 2015 18:41
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Varam posted:Gun, not journal. Dontnod wanted Chloe to have her gun for the last part of the episode, and the encounter with Frank serves to make sure she has it, regardless of your previous choices. So they ignored the established mechanic in order to force you to deal with Frank. Giving how thrown in the scene of her going to grab the gun is, I'm like 90% sure they added that scene because they realized that Chloe had the gun in the ending cutscene and didn't want to make another version of it.
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Aug 5, 2015 18:48
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theblackw0lf posted:Check out this flowchart describing all the branching possibilities from the conversation with Frank in episode 4. It's really impressive. I laugh at how little difference it makes whether Chloe is nice or not  e: Can't Chloe get her hand on a glock(ish) gun i another scene? Does she ever get rid of that gun, or does she just roll with the revolver just-because? Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Aug 5, 2015 |
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Aug 5, 2015 18:48
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Pimpmust posted:I laugh at how little difference it makes whether Chloe is nice or not She uses it on Frank if she doesn't have the revolver at that point. I'm sorta hoping she still has it on her body so you can dig it out and cap Jeffers if he taunts you with her.
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Aug 5, 2015 19:43
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The chart was really cool, thanks for posting it. It is a shame that no matter how right you get the early options, you're screwed if you don't get the exact right answer on the very last. Worst design flaw is still that the "Rachel photo" option gives no indication of having a different outcome than "Rachel letter"...
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Aug 5, 2015 21:07
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It'll be great when there's a trigger for a flat out fail state in the final episode if you rewound more than X times. Max did say she had to watch her power usage for frivolous things in Episode 4.
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Aug 5, 2015 21:08
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TastyLemonDrops posted:It'll be great when there's a trigger for a flat out fail state in the final episode if you rewound more than X times. Max did say she had to watch her power usage for frivolous things in Episode 4. There's no way they are going to put in a failure condition if you rewound to hear everything Samuel or the homeless woman had to say in previous episodes.
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Aug 5, 2015 21:51
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CottonWolf posted:That would have made a lot of sense. As it is, the only reason to ever leave Frank dead is out of morbid curiosity. Well, I left him dead because he said he'd kill Chloe if he didn't have the money he was owed by Friday, and I had every reason to believe him. I'd rather see Chloe alive and struggling with having killed someone in self defense than dead by a deranged drug dealer's hand.
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Aug 5, 2015 22:27
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VagueRant posted:The chart was really cool, thanks for posting it. It's because the letter was in his RV, which it pisses him off that you were in, wheras you can see the photo legit in the diner because he carries it around with him.
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Aug 5, 2015 22:28
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DivisionPost posted:Well, I left him dead because he said he'd kill Chloe if he didn't have the money he was owed by Friday, and I had every reason to believe him. I'd rather see Chloe alive and struggling with having killed someone in self defense than dead by a deranged drug dealer's hand. But she got shot in the head by a deranged psychopath at the end of the episode! 
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Aug 5, 2015 22:46
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psychoJ posted:But she got shot in the head by a deranged psychopath at the end of the episode! No need to be rude. I bet he is a very rational and down to earth person. A person has one weird hobby and that's everything society defines him by. Everyone has to have an artistic outlet. And since that's already his job, he had to do something less ordinary I am actually wondering wether he will break out into a rambling mess, or keep his calm next episode. Presumably he will talk to Max once she awakes. By the way, can we drop the tags now? It's been over a week already. Anyone who hasn't played the latest episode frankly shouldn't read this thread.
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Aug 5, 2015 23:01
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It feels like its been longer than that.
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Aug 5, 2015 23:09
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Viva Miriya posted:It feels like its been longer than that. Yeah no poo poo. It's gonna be a rough two months.
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Aug 5, 2015 23:31
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Yeah, I need Episode 5, like, yesterday. This is the cruelest wait.
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Aug 6, 2015 01:20
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Jimbo Jaggins posted:Did Warren take a selfie with everyone before the party? By this I mean you, when you played, or is it conditional?
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Aug 6, 2015 01:25
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Jimbo Jaggins posted:By this I mean you, when you played, or is it conditional? It always happens.
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Air is lava! posted:By the way, can we drop the tags now? It's been over a week already. Anyone who hasn't played the latest episode frankly shouldn't read this thread. I don't see why not. We did agree on a week. If there's a hypothetical person who gets angry at us for not keeping spoiler tags in the conversation until the indeterminate point in the future where they may or may not play it, we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Pretty weird to find out that Max was actually a Soviet Spy the entire time, though. I guess that pink shirt should have tipped us off.
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Sentinel Red posted:Yeah, I need Episode 5, like, yesterday. This is the cruelest wait. Don't worry there's only 66 more days to go  (assuming they go for the obvious release of October 11th, same day the last episode is set)
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