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njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Norns posted:

Why? Do we have a dev known for air racers?

Whoever made Skydrift.

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GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Yo what time are we doing this tomorrow

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


uh i'll be on around 8:30pm est

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Well I'm here. There dosent appear to be a pcars room in that mumble channel anymore.


*edit* I think I got the "no inputs recognized when you start the race" bug like 3 times total since the game came out. Now I've gotten it 3 out of 4 times I've tried to load a race.

Basticle fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Aug 7, 2015

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Patch 3.0 release notes are up!

quote:

Project CARS – Patch 3.0 – Release Notes

New & Enhanced Feature Summary
* New – Friends Leaderboards – players can now toggle between viewing ‘ALL’ and ‘FRIENDS ONLY’ on the leaderboards screen.
* New – Multiplayer Spectate Mode – players can now choose to ‘Retire to Pit Box’ during a race, and then spectate the ongoing race.
* Enhanced MP vehicle grouping – online races now use real-world vehicle classes. This results in far better vehicle performance matching for online races.
* New – Xbox One – added an Online Browse feature whereby the player can browse for specific lobbies.
* Enhanced Setup and Pit Strategy system – players are now provided with information regarding current and upcoming weather, remaining session duration, current track temperatures, and more.
* Enhanced HUD and Telemetry tyre info system – players can now see in real time which tyre compounds they are currently using, what each tyre’s pressure is, and how much each tyre is worn.
* Enhanced Cut Track detection system – the system used to detect cut tracks is now far more accurate and 'fair'.
* DLC Career Contract support – the game now supports the addition of career contracts for new DLC vehicles so that players can use applicable cars in their core career series.
* Enhanced Replay system – players can now access Photo Mode from within a replay, and can switch between cars during a replay.
* New – Force Feedback – implemented the ability via menu sliders for the user to manually tweak the menu spring strength, stationary / low speed spring strength, and overall steering gain.
* New – the Force Feedback Calibration screen now features a multiple force feedback profile selection system whereby the user can select a base FFB style that suits personal preference, and then tweak it further as desired.
* Enhanced Weather system – all vehicles are updated with new window rain effects, featuring dynamic rivulets, much more realistic looking water drops, and wiper blade trail effects.


Online
* New – Friends Leaderboards – players can now toggle between viewing ‘ALL’ and ‘FRIENDS ONLY’ on the leaderboards screen.
* New – Multiplayer Spectate Mode – players can now choose to ‘Retire to Pit Box’ during a race, and then spectate the ongoing race using the ‘Retire to pits’ and ‘Spectate’ options (note that this is currently only available on tracks that feature a pit lane).
* Enhanced vehicle grouping – online races now use real-world vehicle classes. This results in far better vehicle performance matching for online races.
* Implemented support for Leaderboards reset across all platforms.
* PS4: Fixed an issue with the browser getting stuck at ‘Looking for sessions’.
* Added support for Multiplayer Quick Random to also join in-progress sessions
* New – Xbox One – added an ‘Online Browse’ feature whereby the player can browse for specific lobbies.
* Fixed an issue where the Drive button would remain permanently locked when joining an in-progress session.
* Fixed an issue where, when the player progressed from qualifying to the start of the race, the player’s car would sometimes begin moving without player, resulting in false jump-starts.
* Fixed an issue where using the ‘Amateur’ skill filter would at times not show any lobbies.
* Fixed the case where changing the time of day from daytime to night-time in a lobby failed to switch the skill level from NOVICE to AMATEUR.


Time Trial
* Fixed an issue where restarting a Time Trial session would not remove the ‘best of session’ ghost from before the restart.
* Force Time Trial weather on consoles to always be set to Light Butt to match PC settings.
* Ghost split and lap times are now displayed on timings/pause screen.
* Updated the in-game timings board to provide a visible distinction between the ghosts and the player’s entries: all ghosts now have status set to ‘Ghost’, and the Session best ghost has DRIVER text set to ‘Session Best’


Pitting, Tuning, Setups, Strategy
* Enhanced Setup and Pit Strategy system:
- - Players are now provided with information regarding current and upcoming weather, remaining session duration, and current track temperatures.
- - In Setup, players can choose to apply different compounds to the front and rear sets. In Pit Strategy, players can now choose to change tyres symmetrically instead of configuring each wheel individually.
- - The Setup and Pit Strategy screens will now display an estimation of how many laps the player can expect to run with the current fuel load, and updates in real time as the player adjusts the fuel slider.
- - Players can now define pit strategies with less fuel than the initial fuel load. During a race, the fuel slider indicator will turn red to warn players when the strategy offers insufficient fuel for the remainder of the race.
* Enhanced HUD and Telemetry tyre info system:
- - Players can now see in real time which tyre compounds they are currently using, what each tyre’s pressure is, and how much each tyre is worn. Each individual wheel’s tyre graphic will fade out from top to bottom to indicate the level of wear. The tyre temperature display on the HUD now uses a smooth colour gradient fade to more accurately indicate temperature changes and match the display on the Telemetry screen
* Fixed an issue where a damaged headlights would not get repaired if the player had damage level set to ‘Visual Damage Only’.
* Fixed more cases where a vehicle’s default setup would not be correctly applied.
* Reworked the naming of several tyre compounds to make the names more indicative of their purpose, and to ensure that front and rear compound names match when set to the same compound.
* Restrict pit strategy tyre compound types to only those available for the current vehicle.
* Accessing Pit Strategy in single player during non-race sessions no longer pauses the game.
* Tweaks to AI pit logic to ensure they pit in proper mandatory window in races that feature a mandatory pitstop.
* Fixed an issue that at times caused a setup from one car to be applied to a different car.
* Ensure that the Default pitstop strategy is set to the Active one on each session start, to prevent issues with previously configured and now irrelevant strategies being active.
* Fixed an issue where, if you customized a setup that was automatically loaded from your saved setups, and then drive and return to pits, the customized setup would be lost and your setup will be reset to the previously saved setup.
* Fixed an issue in online races where the pit crew would ignore any changes made to the pit strategy once the player’s car was stationary in the pit box.


Physics & AI
* Improved AI rain speed realism when using treaded tyres in the wet.
* Fixed an issue where, if a player has steering assist on and fuel use set to real, when low on fuel, the steering assist will pull them into the pits as they go past
* Increase tyre wear for AI if driving wet tyres when track is drying or dry.
* Improved AI behaviour during crash recovery to further minimize the chances of AI cars getting stuck.
* Fixed an issue that would cause a car to leave the pits with no visible wheel attached after pitting to replace a lost wheel.
* Various tweaks and improvements to how AI responds to tyre wear in regards to pitting strategies.
* Fixed the issue with cold and current tyre pressure mismatches in pitstop strategy, as well as cold pressure not being correctly applied in the tyre system.
* Fixed an issue with the player vehicle rolling backwards after entering pre-race tuning.
* Fixed an issue where AI drivers would remain stuck in their pit boxes when using accelerated time.


Cut Track / Off Track System
Enhanced Cut Track detection system – the system used to detect cut tracks is now far more accurate and 'fair'. Many tracks were reworked to address specific issues where the cut track detection was either too loose or too strict. Players will no longer receive warnings for driving off track in the grass and other surfaces when not actually gaining time by doing so. The new system provides for scalability in strictness across game modes, to match real life application. The rules enforcement gets progressively stricter from Free Practice to Race to Time Trial.


Career
* DLC Career Contract support – the game now supports the addition of career contracts for new DLC vehicles so that players can use applicable cars in their core career series.
* Added Career Contracts for core career sport DLC cars:
- - GT3: Bentley Continental GT3
- - LMP1: Audi R18 e-tron quattro
* Career Invitationals – corrected Russian translation in two Invitational unlock descriptions.
* Fixed an issue with pre-DLC save games not unlocking DLC career content.


Audio
* Fixed tyre skid sound when car is sitting against a kerb at zero speed.
* Tweaked the dirt surface sounds.
* Fixed an issue where there would sometimes be missing race audio in a subsequent race if there's an immediate quit at race start.


GUI, HUD, Telemetry
* GUI – sliders throughout the game interface now supports smaller increments and decrements when changing their associated values.
* Monitor/Spectate screen – the timings table now supports mouse clicks to change the driver that’s being observed. The screen now features the ability to view the selected driver’s info when playing online, by clicking on the new Gamercard button. Fixed several cases where the map would at times randomly freeze and/or be locked on the screen when telemetry overlay is displayed.
* When browsing Leaderboards, changing the car and track being browsed will no longer change the player’s currently selected car and track in the other game modes.
* Reworked the Replay/Spectate/Monitor interface to a more consistent design.
* Main game loading screens – fixed the Road America track logo that went missing, updated the Logitech logo to the new Logitech G logo, updated the Oculus logo to their new logo.
* Driver Network Profile – practice and qualifying sessions will no longer count towards races entered.
* Community Events – added a 'DLC required' indicator to events that require DLC content, added an event number indicator.
* Career post-race podium screen – fixed Lap times formatting to use the more logical MMSSTTT formatting (e.g. 01:20.457).
* HUD now reports correct split times to vehicles that are in the pits.
* Updated the Class logos used by Road cars to better differentiate the various road car classes.
* Fixed an issue with the Field of View slider not working.
* Fixed an issue where Cut Track warning messages appeared in the centre of the screen instead of to the side, out of the player’s line of sight.


Replays
* Enhanced Replay system – players can now access Photo Mode from within a replay, and can switch between cars during a replay.
* Replay Cameras – Azure Circuit – reworked the draw distance and positioning of a number of cameras to fix background issues and views being obstructed by trackside objects.
* Replay Cameras – Hockenheim National – improved the positioning of a number of cameras to fix views being obstructed by trackside objects.
* Fixed a crash that occurred when the player loaded a replay that was saved with an older version of the game.


Controls & FFB
New – implemented the ability via menu sliders for the user to manually tweak the menu spring strength, stationary / low speed spring strength, and overall steering gain:
Menu Spring – the strength of the wheel centering spring in the front end and in-game pause menu.
Low Speed Spring Coefficient & Saturation – the weight of the steering at slow speeds (<10mph) and when the car is stationary. The saturation is the maximum force for the spring and the coefficient is how quickly the spring takes effect. To avoid "cogging / notching" effects when stationary its best to leave the spring coefficient high and lower the saturation.
Steering Gain – the gain (multiplier) applied to all steering effects (steering force, jolts, kerb rumble etc) after they have been mixed. For a clean more detailed experience set at 1.0 or below, for stronger feedback at the expense of clipping set higher (maximum value 5).

New – the Force Feedback Calibration screen now features a multiple force feedback profile selection system whereby the user can select a base FFB style that suits personal preference, and then tweak it further as desired. You can now switch between current FFB settings (Default) and pre-1.4 (classic) by using the FFB Calibration presets. These presets are available under Options > Controls > Calibrate Force Feedback. The presets are set on top of this page and the new sliders to control the spring/steering effect are at the bottom. Whenever you change these values it becomes a custom preset. You can switch back to either Default or Classic by selecting them at the top of this page.

Fixed:
* Fanatec – added accelerator slip vibration support for Fanatec wheel rims that support this feature. Added sequential shifter profiles for Porsche 911, GT2, GT3RS V2 and CSR wheels. Added accelerator pedal rumble support for the ClubSport Pedals V3, and fixed brake rumble not working.
* Logitech wheels – added LED support for the G29.
* Custom wheels – reduced the default menu spring strength.
* Fixed an issue where the in-game menu spring centered the wheel when pausing while driving, which was jarring when both entering and exiting.
* Handbrake and boost controls assignments are now no longer mandatory.
* Fixed an issue where mouse controls were producing a deadzone in the centre regardless of deadzone settings.
* Fixed an issue where there was a sudden loss of FFB after a severe collision.
* Xbox One – fixed an issue where Force feedback was lost when focus was lost to the onscreen keyboard, other overlaid system apps or snapped apps.
* PS4 USB keyboard – corrected mapping for keypad '.' / 'Del' keys, removed Pause being incorrectly hardcoded to the 'P' key.


Vehicles
* 125cc and 250cc karts – adjusted automatic gearbox algorithm for better shifting. This reduces the occurrence of the rapid fire downshifts from 6th to 1st when locking the rear brakes.
* Audi R18 e-tron quattro – added the missing gear readout to cockpit display. Fixed ‘quattro’ to lower case in the showroom (licensing).
* Aston Martin Vantage GT3 – fixed the impact test position for the rear centre brake light, to ensure accurate impact damage effects on the light.
* Bentley Continental GT3 – fixed slight asymmetry in rear suspension design which was causing some unintentional cross weight.
* BMW M3 GT – set to use same tyre widths as the other GT3 cars. This helps equalize performance and acts to level the playing field, as this car would have used such tyre sizes if it ran beyond 2012 against the rest of the GT3 cars.
* BMW V12 LMR – fixed engine lifetime numbers to match other similar cars.
* Group 5 cars and BMW M1 – tweaked rain tyres heat and sensitivities to prevent them from overheating in light rain.
* Escort MK1 and DLC BMW 2002 Turbo – rebalanced the AI performance.
* Formula A -– added a new tyre set that includes two slick tyres: ‘Soft’ and ‘Medium’. Rebalanced the heating and wear across all four tyre sets. Reworked tyre wear to more closely match real world Formula 1 cars. Heating is now more even front to rear. Further rebalancing of the AI speed (now faster) as was required, and tweaks to the base setup to accommodate the heat change and its effect on the balance. The medium slicks make consistent grip between 180-220F, making this compound more useful as a strategic, lower wear choice. The soft slicks are the default dry tyre.
* Formula C – dropped the AI ability in the rain a bit more for this car, as the AI was still too fast in the rain.
* Lotus 98T – new setup to help handle the power better, new rain tyre tweaks for better heating. Some change for the slick heating and inflation pressure sensitivity of the carcass.
* McLaren MP4 12C – adjusted the default setup to match the change to stiffer tyres.
* McLaren P1 – stiffened up the default suspension to help prevent bottoming out at tracks like Nordschliefe. Changed tyre walls to Pirelli (licensing).
* McLaren F1 GTR – added suspension animations to limit front wheel movement in order to stop them clipping through the bodywork on large compressions.
* Pagani Huayra – corrected the default dry and wet tyres so that the correct tyre is selected when using ‘Automatic by Weather’.
* Radical SR3 and SR8 – reduced the backlight on the gear LCD in the cockpit to make it easier to read at night.
* Renault Clio Cup – updated suspension tuning and gear ratios to match exactly with correct reference data for the X98CUP Mk.4 car.
* RWD P20 LMP2 – recalibrated oil and water temperature warning lights to turn on when the engine is starting to overheat.
* Various DLC Vehicles – rebalanced the in-cockpit exposure levels.
* Various cars – recalibrated the tyre deformation effect. This fixes many cars which were seeing too little or reversed lateral tyre deformations.
* Various cars – graphical issues addressed – Mercedes C-Coupe DTM, Sauber C9, Audi 90, Audi R8 LMS Ultra, Audi R18, Audi R18 e-tron, Aston Martin Rapide, BAC Mono, Bentley Continental GT3, Bentley Speed 8, BMW 1M, BMW Z4 GT3, BMW 320 Group5, BMW M3 E30 GroupA, Caterham Classic, Caterham SP300R, Ford Capri Group5, Ford MkIV, Formula C, Formula A, Ginetta G55 GT4, McLaren F1, Ruf RGT8 GT3, Ruf RGT8.
* Various cars – updated to use the correct tread textures for various tyre compounds
* Modern street cars – new stiffer tyres for improved drivability, to more closely match the real world experience. This makes these cars more fun and engaging to drive. Made tweaks to the individual setups of the FWD and most Supercars to accommodate the change.
* 4WD/hybrid vehicles – enabled visual backfires.


Tracks
* Azure Circuit – reset the AI track grip for the faster Formula A cars, and tweaked the driving lines to help with AI getting stuck in barriers.
* Bathurst – fixed an issue where cars would collide against invisible objects in the pit lane, and fixed an issue with black shapes appearing in the rear view mirrors on some parts of the track.
* California Highway – reworked the allowable driving surfaces in the final section on the double lane highway to allow the player to drive on both sides.
* Dubai layouts – fixed a graphical anomaly on the track surface.
* Glencairn East – fixed a false cut track warning that would trigger while driving on-track.
* Nordschliefe – fixed an issue where AI attempting to leave their pit spots was being blocked by cars in the pit spot directly in front of them.
* Ruapuna layouts – improved the texture quality on the distant trees, and reworked the wire mesh on the marshal posts to prevent them from turning opaque at a distance.
* Sakitto GP – unblocked pit lane and added pit lane directional signage.
* Sakitto International – fixed an issue where the AI would run too wide and collide with the barrier in the downhill left handed sweeper.
* Silverstone layouts – fixed a false cut track warning at the pit entrance.
* Snetterton 200 – fixed an issue where the player would receive a cut track warning when entering the pits’
* Spa Francorchamps – fixed an issue where a number of bollards marking track limits had stopped appearing.
* Watkins Glen layouts – fixed an issue where the pit entry would trigger if a player drove very close to the pit wall on the main straight, and fixed a few graphical pop-up issues.
* Various tracks – Imola, Oschersleben GP, Oschersleben C course – cut track detection adjustments.


Oculus Rift
* Implemented support for Oculus 0.6.0.1 SDK.
* Added support for a separate Graphics profile “GraphicsConfigOculusDX11.xml” when running with the Oculus Rift. This means that you can now set your graphic details to high/max when playing without the Rift, and turn the details down for optimum performance when using the Rift and the game will maintain both configurations and apply the applicable one automatically.
* Auto disabled Crepuscular rays, Vignette and full screen raindrops.
* Fixed excessive object pop-in in Oculus Rift mode that was caused by the modified field of view used in VR.
* Shadow support – further work towards getting shadow support fully implemented.
* Fixed SLI/XFire windowed mode performance issues – SLI/XFire isn't available in windowed mode, but several Renderer paths were still active, resulting in reduced performance, most notably for Oculus Rift which fakes a windowed mode.
* Added a command-line option "-vrnomirror" that disables the desktop mirror. This will gain around 3-4% performance.
* Fixed the issue where non cockpit view cameras were not incorporating the head-pose position correctly, which caused the camera to be spawned very low down.
* Fixed the issue where the view in the Oculus Rift froze when returning to the main menu after a race.
* Fixed the issue where using FXAA caused black/opaque rendering when using Oculus Rift.


General
* Players are no longer disqualified for running out of fuel after finishing the race.
* Fixed an issue that would award players with a race win when skipping session after a false start.
* Fixed an issue with 24Hz 4k Monitor modes causing the graphics code to fail to load.
* PC – added support to enable Opponent Car Reflections by using the “-insane” command-line option.
* Jumpstart tolerances adjusted to make the penalty more realistic when the player starts moving his vehicle before the green lights.
* Fixed an issue that caused vehicle windows to appear invisible in the player’s rear view mirrors.
* PC – fixed an issue with Real-time weather not working.
* PS4 – fixed a crash that occurred when power cycling or when disconnecting and reconnecting a wheel.
* PS4 – anisotropic filtering adjusted to improve the visual quality of some materials, mainly brick walls which were appearing blurred at some angles.
* PS4 – fixed an issue where car bonnet reflections at times were out of sync with the environment being reflected.
* Xbox One – implemented background DLC check optimizations to eliminate instances of stuttering in Main Menu.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
That's enough to get me to try career mode again.

Gasoline
Jul 31, 2008
Those patchnotes look great, any word on when it'll come out?

Eyud
Aug 5, 2006

I saw "DLC BMW 2002 Turbo" in there but Mr. Bell says it's "a tease of something bigger to come".

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

Gasoline posted:

Those patchnotes look great, any word on when it'll come out?

6-8 weeks.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

Gasoline posted:

Those patchnotes look great, any word on when it'll come out?

Probably next few weeks. SMS has yet to deliver the update to Sony/MS for their certification.

Hello Spaceman
Jan 18, 2005

hop, skip, and jumpgate
Don't see it in the patch notes but I really hope they've fixed the issue, on PS4, where the race/event time constantly reverts to the console's actual time.

Playing at 10pm and starting a race in the dark gets old fast.

bUm
Jan 11, 2011
Had a decent time with goon racing a bit last night, even if it was a small group. Be cool if we could get more on board if people are down next week.

holocaust bloopers posted:

Patch 3.0 release notes are up!
Sounds like good stuff; cautiously optimistic, but prior patches dampen the optimism some. After last night reigniting the itch a bit, not sure I'll be able to wait till it hits before jumping back into PCars.

Gasoline posted:

Those patchnotes look great, any word on when it'll come out?
Think most patches have been hitting PC a week or two after they post the notes and a little later for consoles.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
The biggest first world issue with these patches is that SMS keeps changing the tire model, so putting time into a tune only to have to re-do it is frustrating.

Essobie
Jan 31, 2003

WHAT? THIS IS MY REGULAR SPEAKING VOICE.
Is this better?
I didn't see any patch notes that stated that you could have unlimited setups per car/track combo, nor could you distribute them in any sane way such as, I don't know, sharing a single text file.

It is good to see they are attempting to tackle the horrid pit setup interface, but I'm predicting it'll still be garbage when 3.0 hits. Fingers crossed!

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I've watched the U.I. go through like two dozen complete redesigns and it still really sucks in places.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
What looks good doesn't necessarily use well. They still haven't figured that out.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





Is there going to be a DX12 version released?

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



I'm just waiting for the Indy/oval expansion :f5:

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Spaced God posted:

I'm just waiting for the Indy/oval expansion :f5:

This

Hello Spaceman
Jan 18, 2005

hop, skip, and jumpgate

Spaced God posted:

I'm just waiting for the Indy/oval expansion :f5:

Can somebody please explain the extreme boner that people have for this?

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Indy cars are :patriot: and cool as gently caress?!?!

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Hello Spaceman posted:

Can somebody please explain the extreme boner that people have for this?

Oval racing with indycars is really fun.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Norns posted:

Oval racing with indycars is really fun.

Road racing with indy cars is also really fun.

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

I'm telling you guys, Vintage Trans Am. PCars seriously needs a pack of historic racing spec muscle cars. I'd love to fling some Javelins and old Camaros around Willow Springs :allears:

OhsH
Jan 12, 2008
Irl 4 stroke karts are amazing plz be next dlc tia

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

njsykora posted:

Road racing with indy cars is also really fun.

True. But open wheel on road courses is pretty easy to find in a sim. Ovals, not so much.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



My main enjoyment about indy+ovals is you have cars designed to go fast going at near-top speed for most of the track, whereas with road courses you hit near top speed for only a few seconds. Lot less forgiving to mistakes, too

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

EDIT: Wrong racing sim thread.

For actual content, I might be getting a new processor in a week (i7 4790K, a definite upgrade from my current Pentium G3258) so I will be able to play again soon.

Kilonum fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Aug 9, 2015

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

cheesetriangles posted:

Is there going to be a DX12 version released?
DX12 renderer is for PCARS2 only.

bUm
Jan 11, 2011
Finally got a new Invitational after a drought of multiple seasons for getting a new one and it features the Lotus 49 Cosworth that I'd never driven before. What a fantastic car: it's like a Formula Rookie banged a muscle car and this is what popped out. Who cares about aerodynamics? Put a big engine on a small open-wheel car and go nuts. We should do these a race next time we get together for goon racing.

Edit: One down side is the Lotus 49 seems to have screwed tires settings. The Auto by Weather takes Intermediates 100% of the time even when totally sunny the entire session. Have a rainy Qualifying going right now and with Intermediates I can't keep up with the AI no matter what I do (same with Intermediates in the dry... AI just has a ton more grip with identical tires). Just for kicks I restart the Qualifying and throw on soft slicks like I had been manually running to stay competitive in the dry. Turns out the soft slicks grip the road just fine in light rain, making me competitive again. Nice one SMS. :downsbravo:

bUm fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Aug 11, 2015

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



i think it was less 'who cares about aerodynamics' and more 'what in tarnation is an aero-dynamic' back then until jackie stewart came along

ethanol fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Aug 11, 2015

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

ethanol posted:

i think it was less 'who cares about aerodynamics' and more 'what in tarnation is an aero-dynamic' back then until jackie stewart came alongcolin chapman started slapping wings on his cars

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007




Haha, I was waiting for that

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
3.0 is out for PC

quote:

Project CARS – PC Patch 3.0 – Release Notes

LEADERBOARDS RESET
Please be aware that, as a result of the enhanced cut-track detection system included in Patch 3.0, all Time Trial leaderboards will be reset over the course of the next 12 hours. This is to clear out leaderboard times that were set under the old cut-track detection system where players could get away with driving off-track and gain time by doing so. The new system is far fairer and much more accurate. By resetting the leaderboards we remove all these 'contaminated' records and ensure that everyone has a fair shot at setting true and accurate Time Trial leaderboard entries.


New & Enhanced Feature Summary
* New – Friends Leaderboards – players can now toggle between viewing ‘ALL’ and ‘FRIENDS ONLY’ on the leaderboards screen.
* New – Multiplayer Spectate Mode – players can now choose to ‘Retire to Pit Box’ during a race, and then spectate the ongoing race.
* Enhanced MP vehicle grouping – online races now use real-world vehicle classes. This results in far better vehicle performance matching for online races.
* Enhanced Setup and Pit Strategy system – players are now provided with information regarding current and upcoming weather, remaining session duration, current track temperatures, and more.
* Enhanced HUD and Telemetry tyre info system – players can now see in real time which tyre compounds they are currently using, what each tyre’s pressure is, and how much each tyre is worn.
* Enhanced Cut Track detection system – the system used to detect cut tracks is now far more accurate and 'fair'.
* DLC Career Contract support – the game now supports the addition of career contracts for new DLC vehicles so that players can use applicable cars in their core career series.
* Enhanced Replay system – players can now access Photo Mode from within a replay, and can switch between cars during a replay.
* New – Force Feedback – implemented the ability via menu sliders for the user to manually tweak the menu spring strength, stationary / low speed spring strength, and overall steering gain.
* New – the Force Feedback Calibration screen now features a multiple force feedback profile selection system whereby the user can select a base FFB style that suits personal preference, and then tweak it further as desired.
* Enhanced Weather system – all vehicles are updated with new window rain effects, featuring dynamic rivulets, much more realistic looking water drops, and wiper blade trail effects.

Online
* New – Friends Leaderboards – players can now toggle between viewing ‘ALL’ and ‘FRIENDS ONLY’ on the leaderboards screen.
* New – Multiplayer Spectate Mode – players can now choose to ‘Retire to Pit Box’ during a race, and then spectate the ongoing race using the ‘Retire to pits’ and ‘Spectate’ options (note that this is currently only available on tracks that feature a pit lane).
* Enhanced vehicle grouping – online races now use real-world vehicle classes. This results in far better vehicle performance matching for online races.
* Implemented support for Leaderboards reset across all platforms.
* Added support for Multiplayer Quick Random to also join in-progress sessions
* Fixed an issue where the Drive button would remain permanently locked when joining an in-progress session.
* Fixed an issue where, when the player progressed from qualifying to the start of the race, the player’s car would sometimes begin moving without player, resulting in false jump-starts.
* Fixed an issue where using the ‘Amateur’ skill filter would at times not show any lobbies.
* Fixed the case where changing the time of day from daytime to night-time in a lobby failed to switch the skill level from NOVICE to AMATEUR.

Time Trial
* Fixed an issue where restarting a Time Trial session would not remove the ‘best of session’ ghost from before the restart.
* Force Time Trial weather on consoles to always be set to Light Cloud to match PC settings.
* Ghost split and lap times are now displayed on timings/pause screen.
* Updated the in-game timings board to provide a visible distinction between the ghosts and the player’s entries: all ghosts now have status set to ‘Ghost’, and the Session best ghost has DRIVER text set to ‘Session Best’

Pitting, Tuning, Setups, Strategy
* Enhanced Setup and Pit Strategy system:
- Players are now provided with information regarding current and upcoming weather, remaining session duration, and current track temperatures.
- In Setup, players can choose to apply different compounds to the front and rear sets. In Pit Strategy, players can now choose to change tyres symmetrically instead of configuring each wheel individually.
- The Setup and Pit Strategy screens will now display an estimation of how many laps the player can expect to run with the current fuel load, and updates in real time as the player adjusts the fuel slider.
- Players can now define pit strategies with less fuel than the initial fuel load. During a race, the fuel slider indicator will turn red to warn players when the strategy offers insufficient fuel for the remainder of the race.
* Enhanced HUD and Telemetry tyre info system:
- Players can now see in real time which tyre compounds they are currently using, what each tyre’s pressure is, and how much each tyre is worn. Each individual wheel’s tyre graphic will fade out from top to bottom to indicate the level of wear. The tyre temperature display on the HUD now uses a smooth colour gradient fade to more accurately indicate temperature changes and match the display on the Telemetry screen
* Fixed an issue where damaged headlights would not get repaired if the player had damage level set to ‘Visual Damage Only’.
* Fixed more cases where a vehicle’s default setup would not be correctly applied.
* Reworked the naming of several tyre compounds to make the names more indicative of their purpose, and to ensure that front and rear compound names match when set to the same compound.
* Restrict pit strategy tyre compound types to only those available for the current vehicle.
* Accessing Pit Strategy in single player during non-race sessions no longer pauses the game.
* Tweaks to AI pit logic to ensure they pit in proper mandatory window in races that feature a mandatory pitstop.
* Fixed an issue that at times caused a setup from one car to be applied to a different car.
* Ensure that the Default pitstop strategy is set to the Active one on each session start, to prevent issues with previously configured and now irrelevant strategies being active.
* Fixed an issue where, if you customized a setup that was automatically loaded from your saved setups, and then drive and return to pits, the customized setup would be lost and your setup will be reset to the previously saved setup.
* Fixed an issue in online races where the pit crew would ignore any changes made to the pit strategy once the player’s car was stationary in the pit box.

Physics & AI
* Improved AI rain speed realism when using treaded tyres in the wet.
* Fixed an issue where, if a player has steering assist on and fuel use set to real, when low on fuel, the steering assist will pull them into the pits as they go past
* Increase tyre wear for AI if driving wet tyres when track is drying or dry.
* Improved AI behaviour during crash recovery to further minimize the chances of AI cars getting stuck.
* Fixed an issue that would cause a car to leave the pits with no visible wheel attached after pitting to replace a lost wheel.
* Various tweaks and improvements to how AI responds to tyre wear in regards to pitting strategies.
* Fixed the issue with cold and current tyre pressure mismatches in pitstop strategy, as well as cold pressure not being correctly applied in the tyre system.
* Fixed an issue with the player vehicle rolling backwards after entering pre-race tuning.
* Fixed an issue where AI drivers would remain stuck in their pit boxes when using accelerated time.

Cut Track / Off Track System
* Enhanced Cut Track detection system – the system used to detect cut tracks is now far more accurate and 'fair'. Many tracks were reworked to address specific issues where the cut track detection was either too loose or too strict. Players will no longer receive warnings for driving off track in the grass and other surfaces when not actually gaining time by doing so. The new system provides for scalability in strictness across game modes, to match real life application. The rules enforcement gets progressively stricter from Free Practice to Race to Time Trial.

Career
* DLC Career Contract support – the game now supports the addition of career contracts for new DLC vehicles so that players can use applicable cars in their core career series.
* Added Career Contracts for core career sport DLC cars:
- GT3: Bentley Continental GT3
- LMP1: Audi R18 e-tron quattro
* Career Invitationals – corrected Russian translation in two Invitational unlock descriptions.
* Fixed an issue with pre-DLC save games not unlocking DLC career content.

Audio
* Fixed tyre skid sound when car is sitting against a kerb at zero speed.
* Tweaked the dirt surface sounds.
* Fixed an issue where there would sometimes be missing race audio in a subsequent race if there's an immediate quit at race start.

GUI, HUD, Telemetry
* GUI – sliders throughout the game interface now supports smaller increments and decrements when changing their associated values.
* Monitor/Spectate screen – the timings table now supports mouse clicks to change the driver that’s being observed. The screen now features the ability to view the selected driver’s info when playing online, by clicking on the new Gamercard button. Fixed several cases where the map would at times randomly freeze and/or be locked on the screen when telemetry overlay is displayed.
* When browsing Leaderboards, changing the car and track being browsed will no longer change the player’s currently selected car and track in the other game modes.
* Reworked the Replay/Spectate/Monitor interface to a more consistent design.
* Main game loading screens – fixed the Road America track logo that went missing, updated the Logitech logo to the new Logitech G logo, updated the Oculus logo to their new logo.
* Driver Network Profile – practice and qualifying sessions will no longer count towards races entered.
* Community Events – added a 'DLC required' indicator to events that require DLC content, added an event number indicator.
* Career post-race podium screen – fixed Lap times formatting to use the more logical MMSSTTT formatting (e.g. 01:20.457).
* HUD now reports correct split times to vehicles that are in the pits.
* Updated the Class logos used by Road cars to better differentiate the various road car classes.
* Fixed an issue with the Field of View slider not working.
* Fixed an issue where Cut Track warning messages appeared in the centre of the screen instead of to the side, out of the player’s line of sight.

Replays
* Enhanced Replay system – players can now access Photo Mode from within a replay, and can switch between cars during a replay.
* Replay Cameras – Azure Circuit – reworked the draw distance and positioning of a number of cameras to fix background issues and views being obstructed by trackside objects.
* Replay Cameras – Hockenheim National – improved the positioning of a number of cameras to fix views being obstructed by trackside objects.
* Fixed a crash that occurred when the player loaded a replay that was saved with an older version of the game.

Controls & FFB
New – implemented the ability via menu sliders for the user to manually tweak the menu spring strength, stationary / low speed spring strength, and overall steering gain:
Menu Spring – the strength of the wheel centering spring in the front end and in-game pause menu.
Low Speed Spring Coefficient & Saturation – the weight of the steering at slow speeds (<10mph) and when the car is stationary. The saturation is the maximum force for the spring and the coefficient is how quickly the spring takes effect. To avoid "cogging / notching" effects when stationary its best to leave the spring coefficient high and lower the saturation.
Steering Gain – the gain (multiplier) applied to all steering effects (steering force, jolts, kerb rumble etc) after they have been mixed. For a clean more detailed experience set at 1.0 or below, for stronger feedback at the expense of clipping set higher (maximum value 5).

New – the Force Feedback Calibration screen now features a multiple force feedback profile selection system whereby the user can select a base FFB style that suits personal preference, and then tweak it further as desired. You can now switch between current FFB settings (Default) and pre-1.4 (classic) by using the FFB Calibration presets. These presets are available under Options > Controls > Calibrate Force Feedback. The presets are set on top of this page and the new sliders to control the spring/steering effect are at the bottom. Whenever you change these values it becomes a custom preset. You can switch back to either Default or Classic by selecting them at the top of this page.

Fixed:
* Fanatec – added accelerator slip vibration support for Fanatec wheel rims that support this feature. Added accelerator pedal rumble support for the ClubSport Pedals V3, and fixed brake rumble not working.
* Logitech wheels – added LED support for the G29.
* Custom wheels – reduced the default menu spring strength.
* Fixed an issue where the in-game menu spring centered the wheel when pausing while driving, which was jarring when both entering and exiting.
* Handbrake and boost controls assignments are now no longer mandatory.
* Fixed an issue where mouse controls were producing a deadzone in the centre regardless of deadzone settings.
* Fixed an issue where there was a sudden loss of FFB after a severe collision.

Vehicles
* 125cc and 250cc karts – adjusted automatic gearbox algorithm for better shifting. This reduces the occurrence of the rapid fire downshifts from 6th to 1st when locking the rear brakes.
* Audi R18 e-tron quattro – added the missing gear readout to cockpit display. Fixed ‘quattro’ to lower case in the showroom (licensing).
* Aston Martin Vantage GT3 – fixed the impact test position for the rear centre brake light, to ensure accurate impact damage effects on the light.
* Bentley Continental GT3 – fixed slight asymmetry in rear suspension design which was causing some unintentional cross weight.
* BMW M3 GT – set to use same tyre widths as the other GT3 cars. This helps equalize performance and acts to level the playing field, as this car would have used such tyre sizes if it ran beyond 2012 against the rest of the GT3 cars.
* BMW V12 LMR – fixed engine lifetime numbers to match other similar cars.
* Group 5 cars and BMW M1 – tweaked rain tyres heat and sensitivities to prevent them from overheating in light rain.
* Escort MK1 and DLC BMW 2002 Turbo – rebalanced the AI performance.
* Formula A -– added a new tyre set that includes two slick tyres: ‘Soft’ and ‘Medium’. Rebalanced the heating and wear across all four tyre sets. Reworked tyre wear to more closely match real world Formula 1 cars. Heating is now more even front to rear. Further rebalancing of the AI speed (now faster) as was required, and tweaks to the base setup to accommodate the heat change and its effect on the balance. The medium slicks make consistent grip between 180-220F, making this compound more useful as a strategic, lower wear choice. The soft slicks are the default dry tyre.
* Formula C – dropped the AI ability in the rain a bit more for this car, as the AI was still too fast in the rain.
* Lotus 98T – new setup to help handle the power better, new rain tyre tweaks for better heating. Some change for the slick heating and inflation pressure sensitivity of the carcass.
* McLaren MP4 12C – adjusted the default setup to match the change to stiffer tyres.
* McLaren P1 – stiffened up the default suspension to help prevent bottoming out at tracks like Nordschliefe. Changed tyre walls to Pirelli (licensing).
* McLaren F1 GTR – added suspension animations to limit front wheel movement in order to stop them clipping through the bodywork on large compressions.
* Pagani Huayra – corrected the default dry and wet tyres so that the correct tyre is selected when using ‘Automatic by Weather’.
* Radical SR3 and SR8 – reduced the backlight on the gear LCD in the cockpit to make it easier to read at night.
* Renault Clio Cup – updated suspension tuning and gear ratios to match exactly with correct reference data for the X98CUP Mk.4 car.
* RWD P20 LMP2 – recalibrated oil and water temperature warning lights to turn on when the engine is starting to overheat.
* Various DLC Vehicles – rebalanced the in-cockpit exposure levels.
* Various cars – recalibrated the tyre deformation effect. This fixes many cars which were seeing too little or reversed lateral tyre deformations.
* Various cars – graphical issues addressed – Mercedes C-Coupe DTM, Sauber C9, Audi 90, Audi R8 LMS Ultra, Audi R18, Audi R18 e-tron, Aston Martin Rapide, BAC Mono, Bentley Continental GT3, Bentley Speed 8, BMW 1M, BMW Z4 GT3, BMW 320 Group5, BMW M3 E30 GroupA, Caterham Classic, Caterham SP300R, Ford Capri Group5, Ford MkIV, Formula C, Formula A, Ginetta G55 GT4, McLaren F1, Ruf RGT8 GT3, Ruf RGT8.
* Various cars – updated to use the correct tread textures for various tyre compounds
* Modern street cars – new stiffer tyres for improved drivability, to more closely match the real world experience. This makes these cars more fun and engaging to drive. Made tweaks to the individual setups of the FWD and most Supercars to accommodate the change.
* 4WD/hybrid vehicles – enabled visual backfires.

Tracks
* Azure Circuit – reset the AI track grip for the faster Formula A cars, and tweaked the driving lines to help with AI getting stuck in barriers.
* Bathurst – fixed an issue where cars would collide against invisible objects in the pit lane, and fixed an issue with black shapes appearing in the rear view mirrors on some parts of the track.
* California Highway – reworked the allowable driving surfaces in the final section on the double lane highway to allow the player to drive on both sides.
* Dubai layouts – fixed a graphical anomaly on the track surface.
* Glencairn East – fixed a false cut track warning that would trigger while driving on-track.
* Nordschliefe – fixed an issue where AI attempting to leave their pit spots was being blocked by cars in the pit spot directly in front of them.
* Ruapuna layouts – improved the texture quality on the distant trees, and reworked the wire mesh on the marshal posts to prevent them from turning opaque at a distance.
* Sakitto GP – unblocked pit lane and added pit lane directional signage.
* Sakitto International – fixed an issue where the AI would run too wide and collide with the barrier in the downhill left handed sweeper.
* Silverstone layouts – fixed a false cut track warning at the pit entrance.
* Snetterton 200 – fixed an issue where the player would receive a cut track warning when entering the pits’
* Spa Francorchamps – fixed an issue where a number of bollards marking track limits had stopped appearing.
* Watkins Glen layouts – fixed an issue where the pit entry would trigger if a player drove very close to the pit wall on the main straight, and fixed a few graphical pop-up issues.
* Various tracks – Imola, Oschersleben GP, Oschersleben C course – cut track detection adjustments.

Oculus Rift
* Implemented support for Oculus 0.6.0.1 SDK.
* Added support for a separate Graphics profile “GraphicsConfigOculusDX11.xml” when running with the Oculus Rift. This means that you can now set your graphic details to high/max when playing without the Rift, and turn the details down for optimum performance when using the Rift and the game will maintain both configurations and apply the applicable one automatically.
* Auto disabled Crepuscular rays, Vignette and full screen raindrops.
* Fixed excessive object pop-in in Oculus Rift mode that was caused by the modified field of view used in VR.
* Shadow support – further work towards getting shadow support fully implemented.
* Fixed SLI/XFire windowed mode performance issues – SLI/XFire isn't available in windowed mode, but several Renderer paths were still active, resulting in reduced performance, most notably for Oculus Rift which fakes a windowed mode.
* Added a command-line option "-vrnomirror" that disables the desktop mirror. This will gain around 3-4% performance.
* Fixed the issue where non cockpit view cameras were not incorporating the head-pose position correctly, which caused the camera to be spawned very low down.
* Fixed the issue where the view in the Oculus Rift froze when returning to the main menu after a race.
* Fixed the issue where using FXAA caused black/opaque rendering when using Oculus Rift.

General
* Players are no longer disqualified for running out of fuel after finishing the race.
* Fixed an issue that would award players with a race win when skipping session after a false start.
* Fixed an issue with 24Hz 4k Monitor modes causing the graphics code to fail to load.
* Added support to enable Opponent Car Reflections by using the “-insane” command-line option.
* Jumpstart tolerances adjusted to make the penalty more realistic when the player starts moving his vehicle before the green lights.
* Fixed an issue that caused vehicle windows to appear invisible in the player’s rear view mirrors.
* Fixed an issue with Real-time weather not working.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Guess I know what I'm doing this weekend.
Feels like a good weekend for Spa laps.

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

I am way too excited to see this new dynamic rain effect on the windows :allears:

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Patch is up on PS4

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


If I'm around I'll host goon races around 6PM EST sunday.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Pcars had really improved since launch. Without a doubt, this game needed several months of extra development time.

Ian Bell has said that they're going to be focusing on adding stuff now that most everything has been fixed. A new photo mode would be cool.

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bUm
Jan 11, 2011
Found out the hard way last night, after getting really annoyed on the third qualifying session in a row that went hard rain-dry-rain within the ten minutes (see: patch note "* Improved AI rain speed realism when using treaded tyres in the wet." loving my qualifying over), that you can't turn off dynamic weather in career.

Another really dumb thing that I ran into last night: the LMP1 career class takes best qualifying lap for the first race, second best qualifying lap for the second race. On Le Mans you can only finish one qualifying lap before the ten minutes elapse so you just RNGed for position on the second race (I happened to end up 4th, thankfully, but it's still really dumb).

And, lastly, I decided to bump AI up to 90 since I seem to be rolling them a bit easily at 80 nowadays and holy poo poo the AI is dumb when you find yourself actually racing among them more often. They seem to constantly come down into you if you try to pass on the inside (or come up into you on turn exit if you're going on the outside) causing both cars to get sideways and making you have to catch up multiple seconds to try and pass the next guy in line. The only clean passes you can do (usually) is when they make a mistake and lose a lot of speed so you can pass them faster than they can run into you, even if you're plenty faster than them. If this is how bad it is racing amongst them after they improved AI detection a couple patches ago, I can't imagine how bad it was to race against speed-competitive AI before.

In brighter news: finally finished the Zero to Hero achievement and then bounced back to Formula C that I'd ended up skipping when my Contracts bugged out (meaning I had to skip ahead to get Zero to Hero in 10 seasons). In less bright news: when qualifying for my first Formula C race I got a great run inside an AI coming out of a turn such that I was side-by-side, maybe even ahead of him, burning down a short 3~4 second straightaway; as we approached the next turn (I was on the outside), he decided he really wanted to be on the outside line and my right wheels were suddenly in the air, my car flipped, smashed the ground upside-down, and flipped upright again before coming to a halt. I found myself sitting in the grass facing backwards, wheel-less, and with almost all of my body panels missing. Holy poo poo the AI is bad, I might have to turn off damage if I'm going to keep racing harder AI if they're just going to crash right into me even on the most legit of passing attempts (I can understand being cut off by AI when you just barely have your nose poking in, but a full on side-by-side ram? :wtc:).

T1g4h posted:

I am way too excited to see this new dynamic rain effect on the windows :allears:
There's no being too excited for this. The rain effects in at launch looked completely awful (haven't seen the new ones yet, but my imagination by the notes is that it actually at least looks like water) and were an outstanding misstep of poo poo graphics in a very good looking game.

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