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Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Brannock posted:

bernie sanders must be destroyed loving immediately.

instead of focusing on economic disparity

we should focus on why bernie is a classist and a racist , agreed

white man from vermont blind to the plight of insitutitonalized southern racism :heritage:

lmbo, thats my controversial opinion have a bless day

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. - Bernie Sanders

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. - Bernie Sanders

This will be picked up as a legitimate Sanders quote by Drudge in five, four, three, two...

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
Sanders will stand in the schoolhouse door of Liberty University to personally make sure that no black students can get in.

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


I don't think saying that he could have worded that a bit better is calling him a secret racist people, come on.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8mGJDFiDgY

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

I don't think saying that he could have worded that a bit better is calling him a secret racist people, come on.

I'll say this about Sanders: he is not a secret racist

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

I'll say this about Sanders: he is not a secret racist

As in, he wears it in his sleeve

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

I don't think saying that he could have worded that a bit better is calling him a secret racist people, come on.

Any criticism of St Bernard is an attack on us all, comrade.

(It is a literal dog whistle, you see.)

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

wheres trump thats bullshit

also huckabee staring into your soul as a pre-ritual is just not a great way to start the morning, that made my skin crawl :(

also lol just lol if you think scott walker ran for realsies, that beergut says he got winded as soon as the video ended

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
There are now snapchat attack ads against Rand Paul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ1CMiPWZVk

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

As someone who grew up in Lynchburg, most of the students at Liberty are from very conservative religious families and it tends to be their first time actually being away from their parents. They're usually not very political other than "Democrats bad, Republicans good" and generally will support whoever is the most "Christian" or whoever their parents support.

That being said, they also tend to pride themselves on being 'non mainstream' (lol) and Bernie might go over a bit better there than you'd imagine, as he's running against the TRUE enemy (and someone their parents hate), HRC.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.

Lastgirl posted:

wheres trump thats bullshit

Trump doesn't prepare for debates. That's what makes him Trump.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Whiskey Sours posted:

Trump doesn't prepare for debates. That's what makes him Trump.

yea but like

nobodys preparing in that video either so...


preparation would be going over your loving notes if you had any loving plan about the current state of america but you dont so ur just gonna repeat your rhetoric

Walker goes for a very short run because the Kochs have already told him what to say like a good puppet with their hands up his small flat frogbutt


like the only thing I Saw Was Ben Carson Berning Paper So I Think Those Were His Notes So He Might Only Be The Actual Candidate Who Actually Prepared

Lastgirl fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Aug 6, 2015

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

this_is_hard posted:

As someone who grew up in Lynchburg, most of the students at Liberty are from very conservative religious families and it tends to be their first time actually being away from their parents. They're usually not very political other than "Democrats bad, Republicans good" and generally will support whoever is the most "Christian" or whoever their parents support.

That being said, they also tend to pride themselves on being 'non mainstream' (lol) and Bernie might go over a bit better there than you'd imagine, as he's running against the TRUE enemy (and someone their parents hate), HRC.

This is pretty much the exact type of person you can convert, isn't it?

Like, if I were Bernie I would say if you want to reduce abortion here's what you do, you give everyone who works a living wage, you give every mother at least six weeks of maternity leave, you give them universal single payer healthcare fit their children and themselves, and you give them free and easy access to birth control so they can make the decision of when they have a child, and then pivot and say outlawing abortion does nothing, it's been proven everywhere that outlawed abortion, abortion rates did not actually go down. If you want to reduce abortion that's a waste of time. Trust women that they don't make that decision lightly. Trust women.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Seriously though, I figured the only thing a modern politician needs to prepare for a debate is how to transition between your opponent's taking points and yours.

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?

Pavlov posted:

"Hey, our town was settled by Claus Hitler and we have to respect that. The name Hitlersburg is just part of our history."

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

greatn posted:

This is pretty much the exact type of person you can convert, isn't it?

Like, if I were Bernie I would say if you want to reduce abortion here's what you do, you give everyone who works a living wage, you give every mother at least six weeks of maternity leave, you give them universal single payer healthcare fit their children and themselves, and you give them free and easy access to birth control so they can make the decision of when they have a child, and then pivot and say outlawing abortion does nothing, it's been proven everywhere that outlawed abortion, abortion rates did not actually go down. If you want to reduce abortion that's a waste of time. Trust women that they don't make that decision lightly. Trust women.

AND WHAT WE AH GOIN TO SAY TO THA BILLIONAHRE CLAHSS IS YAWH GREED IS GOING TO ENHD AND WE AH GOING TO ENHD IT FOR YOO

SnakePlissken
Dec 31, 2009

by zen death robot

Samurai Sanders posted:

Seriously though, I figured the only thing a modern politician needs to prepare for a debate is how to transition between your opponent's taking points and yours.

And tanning, it appears.

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

so uh, JEB! self identifies as jeb bush?

does that mean we have to call him that

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
I don't think it's a bad move for Bernie to go down to Liberty U, but pretty sure the old Jewish socialist with the Brooklyn accent isn't going to win over the crowd there.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.

greatn posted:

This is pretty much the exact type of person you can convert, isn't it?

Like, if I were Bernie I would say if you want to reduce abortion here's what you do, you give everyone who works a living wage, you give every mother at least six weeks of maternity leave, you give them universal single payer healthcare fit their children and themselves, and you give them free and easy access to birth control so they can make the decision of when they have a child, and then pivot and say outlawing abortion does nothing, it's been proven everywhere that outlawed abortion, abortion rates did not actually go down. If you want to reduce abortion that's a waste of time. Trust women that they don't make that decision lightly. Trust women.

Sorry, you'll have to clarify. How exactly does this punish women for having sex?


I'll be damned, it's a real place https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika,_Ontario

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost
"We shouldn't even try to talk to shitheads" being the motto of liberalism for the last fifty years is why we have the label of elitists and why these people don't take us seriously when we say we are trying to help them.

A crowd of young people who haven't been involved in politics long enough to really make up their mind is a crowd that can still be swayed. If a shitheaded evangelical university is going to give Bernie a chance to corrupt their youth he should absolutely be taking it, not refusing on the grounds that it's founder was a racist or that the parents who sent their kids there probably have wrong opinions about race.

Mirthless fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Aug 6, 2015

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

this_is_hard posted:

As someone who grew up in Lynchburg, most of the students at Liberty are from very conservative religious families and it tends to be their first time actually being away from their parents. They're usually not very political other than "Democrats bad, Republicans good" and generally will support whoever is the most "Christian" or whoever their parents support.

That being said, they also tend to pride themselves on being 'non mainstream' (lol) and Bernie might go over a bit better there than you'd imagine, as he's running against the TRUE enemy (and someone their parents hate), HRC.

I know quite a few folks from high school who had super religious parents who would only pay for their college if they went to Liberty (or, presumably Bob Jones or Oral Roberts or god forbid Patrick Henry). It was really quite sad. I would imagine there's a non-insignificant chunk of kids at Liberty who don't really want to be there but didn't have a much better option.


Stop humanizing the candidates, IJR! You're making it harder to actively dislike them! except Scott Walker, just seeing his mug makes me steam

Chris Christie
Dec 26, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Twas the day of debate, when all throughout Cleveland,
Conservatives knew, it was time to get even.
The establishment practiced and prepped with great care,
In the fear that The Donald soon would be there.

The masses were nestled all snug in their seats,
Waiting to witness the establishments' defeat.
And moderators at their desk, and candidates on stage,
Bracing themselves for Ol' St. Trump's rage.

When out on the street there arose such a clatter,
They sprang from the Q to see what was the matter.
Into the streets they flew like a flash,
Knowing that soon there would be a great clash.

The moon shined on the breast of the Cuyahoga River,
And Walker and Bush began to quiver,
At the sight their wondering eyes had just seen,
A Sikorsky S-76, luxurious and pristine.

With a gold plated logo, and plush leather interior,
All knew in a moment Mr. Trump was superior.
The candidates all bowed their heads in shame,
As St. Trump descended, and called them by name!

"Now Walker! now, Bush! now, Marco and Rand!
You've let rapists and murderers into our land!
On our southern border, I'll build a great wall!
And I'll make the Mexicans pay for it all!"

"Oh look, it's JEB!, the establishments' choice,
They claim he'll provide a reasonable voice.
But JEB! hired his brother's foreign policy hacks,
Who started that stupid war in Iraq!"

"And Scott Walker is here, with his terrible hair!
Against me this loser hasn't a prayer!
He bowed, he groveled, and begged both the Kochs,
He's a shill, a stooge, the ultimate joke!"

"And there's Mike Huckabee, a modern day theocrat,
He raised taxes in Arkansas like some kind of Democrat!
Look, it's Chris Christie, how could you miss him?
We could solve world hunger if we let the Africans eat him!"

"Marco Rubio, they say, is the great Latin hope,
but if you ask me, he's kind of a dope.
Ben Carson I'll admit, is one fine class act,
Have I mentioned how much I love all the blacks?"

"Like father, like son, Rand Paul is a quack!
John Kasich is a Lehman Brother's Wall-Street hack!
About Ted Cruz, I won't say a bad thing,
He's the only one here smart enough to kiss the ring."

"I see that loser Lindsey Graham isn't here,
who the hell would vote for that closeted queer?
I see that Rick Perry is absent too,
That mouth-breathing retard couldn't add 2 and 2."

Humbled, the candidates spoke not a word,
With tears in their eyes, the sobs in their throats could be heard.
Donald ran his hand through his magnificent comb-over,
Knowing their campaigns were toast, it was over.

He sprang to his chopper, to the crowd he waved good-bye,
And away he flew into the night sky.
But they heard him exclaim, as he soared higher and higher,
"Let's make America Great Again!!! Obama you're fired!!!"

Bread Set Jettison
Jan 8, 2009

I bet the debate is gonna be a big let down because of how much hype we gave it :\

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Miltank posted:

Its a bunch of college students.

And brother they are a bunch of college students who are true believers in Capitalist Jesus. And a few of them who totally reject that but if they dare to speak out a single time while at that school, there goes any chance of their parents paying for them to go to any college at all, let alone them being able to pay for it themselves.

Mirthless posted:

"We shouldn't even try to talk to shitheads" being the motto of liberalism for the last fifty years is why we have the label of elitists and why these people don't take us seriously when we say we are trying to help them.

A crowd of young people who haven't been involved in politics long enough to really make up their mind is a crowd that can still be swayed. If a shitheaded evangelical university is going to give Bernie a chance to corrupt their youth he should absolutely be taking it, not refusing on the grounds that it's founder was a racist or that the parents who sent their kids there probably have wrong opinions about race.

Being caught supporting anything that ain't the school's version of "Christian" is a punishable offense at Liberty University. This includes doing it off-campus or online if some other student rats on you, which they will.

Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Aug 6, 2015

Schnorkles
Apr 30, 2015

It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Chris Christie posted:

Twas the day of debate, when all throughout Cleveland,
Conservatives knew, it was time to get even.
The establishment practiced and prepped with great care,
In the fear that The Donald soon would be there.

The masses were nestled all snug in their seats,
Waiting to witness the establishments' defeat.
And moderators at their desk, and candidates on stage,
Bracing themselves for Ol' St. Trump's rage.

When out on the street there arose such a clatter,
They sprang from the Q to see what was the matter.
Into the streets they flew like a flash,
Knowing that soon there would be a great clash.

The moon shined on the breast of the Cuyahoga River,
And Walker and Bush began to quiver,
At the sight their wondering eyes had just seen,
A Sikorsky S-76, luxurious and pristine.

With a gold plated logo, and plush leather interior,
All knew in a moment Mr. Trump was superior.
The candidates all bowed their heads in shame,
As St. Trump descended, and called them by name!

"Now Walker! now, Bush! now, Marco and Rand!
You've let rapists and murderers into our land!
On our southern border, I'll build a great wall!
And I'll make the Mexicans pay for it all!"

"Oh look, it's JEB!, the establishments' choice,
They claim he'll provide a reasonable voice.
But JEB! hired his brother's foreign policy hacks,
Who started that stupid war in Iraq!"

"And Scott Walker is here, with his terrible hair!
Against me this loser hasn't a prayer!
He bowed, he groveled, and begged both the Kochs,
He's a shill, a stooge, the ultimate joke!"

"And there's Mike Huckabee, a modern day theocrat,
He raised taxes in Arkansas like some kind of Democrat!
Look, it's Chris Christie, how could you miss him?
We could solve world hunger if we let the Africans eat him!"

"Marco Rubio, they say, is the great Latin hope,
but if you ask me, he's kind of a dope.
Ben Carson I'll admit, is one fine class act,
Have I mentioned how much I love all the blacks?"

"Like father, like son, Rand Paul is a quack!
John Kasich is a Lehman Brother's Wall-Street hack!
About Ted Cruz, I won't say a bad thing,
He's the only one here smart enough to kiss the ring."

"I see that loser Lindsey Graham isn't here,
who the hell would vote for that closeted queer?
I see that Rick Perry is absent too,
That mouth-breathing retard couldn't add 2 and 2."

Humbled, the candidates spoke not a word,
With tears in their eyes, the sobs in their throats could be heard.
Donald ran his hand through his magnificent comb-over,
Knowing their campaigns were toast, it was over.

He sprang to his chopper, to the crowd he waved good-bye,
And away he flew into the night sky.
But they heard him exclaim, as he soared higher and higher,
"Let's make America Great Again!!! Obama you're fired!!!"

This is a pretty excellent post that I would just empty quote if I could.

CuteJen96
Feb 23, 2015

by zen death robot

(and can't post for 2 years!)

Bread Set Jettison posted:

I bet the debate is gonna be a big let down because of how much hype we gave it :\

Great_Gerbil
Sep 1, 2006
Rhombomys opimus

Thump! posted:

I agree with that. As much as I love the guy and know that he understands the race issues, and I see his ideal of the thought that fixing economic disparity will help with that, he needs to break it down for the vast majority of folk who can't see that the two are related.

People just don't understand the link between the two. :smith:

I really haven't seen this thrown out much so I'm gonna throw it out there.

I think Bernie's whole run is aimed at white people. Specifically disaffected white liberals who would love to get rid of their college debt but still shy away from icky social welfare issues.

When I see Bernie talk, I feel like he's talking to me. White, late 20s, father of two, working a poo poo job, and just bought a house in the suburbs.

My wife, on the other hand, doesn't feel it. She loves the message. But it's not appealing to her.

Similarly, I think the message is aimed squarely at conservatives and "undecideds" who have jumped ship on the Democratic Party. How? By reminding them that they're part of the class struggle, too. Making it a religious and moral obligation to help the poor.

I'm not trying to be glib, but you see it constantly in this thread and it's a really biting critique of liberals and armchair leftists.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Nintendo Kid posted:

And brother they are a bunch of college students who are true believers in Capitalist Jesus. And a few of them who totally reject that but if they dare to speak out a single time while at that school, there goes any chance of their parents paying for them to go to any college at all, let alone them being able to pay for it themselves.


Being caught supporting anything that ain't the school's version of "Christian" is a punishable offense at Liberty University. This includes doing it off-campus or online if some other student rats on you, which they will.

I think the fact that they invited Bernie God drat Sanders to speak at their university is proof enough that maybe things have been overstated about the conservative regime there. If they were as opposed to liberalism are you think they are they wouldn't have invited the most liberal presidential candidate in years to speak.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

That video makes every candidate look really stupid. And Jeb, yet another dumb comment: "Mom, I can't say that on television! (because if they knew how i really felt about things, no one would vote for me)."

CuteJen96
Feb 23, 2015

by zen death robot

(and can't post for 2 years!)

we have to ask ourselves if the country is ready to have a mexican first lady

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Mirthless posted:

"We shouldn't even try to talk to shitheads" being the motto of liberalism for the last fifty years is why we have the label of elitists and why these people don't take us seriously when we say we are trying to help them.

We have tried. And tried. We spent the entirety of the last 50 years coddling shitheads and altering public policy so they wouldn't get their feelings hurt. Shitheads are the reason we didn't get a Civil Rights Act until 1964.

And now there are shitheads running Congress, and when Obama attempted to engage them in civil discussion they spat on him and called him a fascist.

I'm done with coddling shitheads. When they're ready to listen, we'll talk, but being unwilling to listen is what makes them shitheads.

Nagato
Apr 26, 2011

Why yes my username is the same as an autistic alien who looks like a 9 year old from an anime, why do ask?
:nyoron:

Alter Ego posted:

When they're ready to listen, we'll talk, but being unwilling to listen is what makes them shitheads.

What is Liberty University doing inviting Sanders to speak, then. Lemme know when Harvard invites Donald Trump to speak.

I don't actually believe Harvard should invite Trump to speak, it's just a funny mental image

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Nagato posted:

What is Liberty University doing inviting Sanders to speak, then. Lemme know when Harvard invites Donald Trump to speak.

To be fair, there is a somewhat reasonable argument that they invited him fully expecting him not to take them up on the offer.

Chris Christie
Dec 26, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
"Bush . . . went on to describe the publicity seeking real estate developer [Trump] . . . as 'a buffoon,' 'clown' and 'rear end in a top hat.'"

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/gop-2016-debate-jeb-bush-donald-trump-121076.html#ixzz3i2yGcye5

YESSSSSSSSSS

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005

Schnorkles posted:

This is a pretty excellent post that I would just empty quote if I could.

It's okay to use slurs about gay people as long as they're republican.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Alter Ego posted:

We have tried. And tried. We spent the entirety of the last 50 years coddling shitheads and altering public policy so they wouldn't get their feelings hurt. Shitheads are the reason we didn't get a Civil Rights Act until 1964.

And now there are shitheads running Congress, and when Obama attempted to engage them in civil discussion they spat on him and called him a fascist.

I'm done with coddling shitheads. When they're ready to listen, we'll talk, but being unwilling to listen is what makes them shitheads.

this is a good opinion to have regarding young misguided college students and in no way enforces identity politics, im sure conservatives dont say the same thing at all

the only good bugrepublican is a dead bugrepublican.

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my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Democrats might be more open to speaking at Liberty if the college hadn't banned the College Democrats from campus

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/22/AR2009052200793.html

free speech :haw:

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