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Chronic Reagan
Oct 13, 2000

pictures of plastic men
Fun Shoe

ChiTownEddie posted:

Wowza. Normally I take BGG spergs with a grain of salt but they weren't kidding about how bad the printing of the new MK expansion is. It seriously is larger and thinner card stock (and that is saying something since MK's isn't great) and the tokens are hilariously smaller.
Legit, and I say this as someone who doesn't really care, if you kind of want Shades of Tezla...wait and hope the second printing isn't horrific.

Wish I had paid more attention. MK stuff was an insta-buy for me. Now I'm left feeling like I've got a box of unusable crap.

Durendal posted:

I'm also ordering colored bags for all the pogs.

[edit] I guess that's the solution. I'm sure as hell not going to wait and hope there's a better printing and buy this poo poo all over again. I'll have to get a bunch of bags for the tokens.

Chronic Reagan fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Aug 7, 2015

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Ayn Randi
Mar 12, 2009


Grimey Drawer
Trip report: We played argent, it was loving awesome. My partner loves worker placement. Next stop, caylus :getin:

Madmarker
Jan 7, 2007

I'm El Grande. Never played it, but I can dig it.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Zombie #246 posted:

I'm tichu, a game I have only been vaguely aware of since I got into hobbyist boardgames. I don't even know what it is or what it's about.

Tichu is a fabulous trick-taking-ish partnership (i.e. 2v2) card game, I'd put bridge above it in that genre but not much else.

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(

Mister Sinewave posted:

Dang, shades of tezla print sucks? I bought it & it's paid and on hold. When will I learn I don't need to be among the first out of the foxhole even if I know I want a game?

Too jittery from things going OOP or surprise impossible to find.

I got mine when it first dropped and everything is fine.

I mean, maybe yours is poo poo but don't lose hope!

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

At least you guys are getting your expansion, I still can't find anywhere that has it :(

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


silvergoose posted:

Tichu is a fabulous trick-taking-ish partnership (i.e. 2v2) card game, I'd put bridge above it in that genre but not much else.
Tichu is a climbing card actually, it's not really a trick-taking game at all.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Tekopo posted:

Tichu is a climbing card actually, it's not really a trick-taking game at all.

I know it is but you play cards around the table and then someone wins all the cards and then you play more cards. That's why I said trick taking ISH. Hmph. I still put it in the same genre as Bridge, though. And, um. That game you play with Tarot cards.

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

Ayn Randi posted:

Trip report: We played argent, it was loving awesome. My partner loves worker placement. Next stop, caylus :getin:

Nice. :toot:

Argent is good, I need to play it more. Am really bad at it.

Far as worker placement games go it's up there with Keyflower and Caylus but I don't think it's quite as good as those two unless what you really want is all the anime.

Speaking of worker placement + all the anime, picked up Code of Nine at Gencon. Game is so weird.

ChiTownEddie
Mar 26, 2010

Awesome beer, no pants.
Join the Legion.

BonHair posted:

At least you guys are getting your expansion, I still can't find anywhere that has it :(

Ugh, that is a bummer. Because, let me be clear. I'd rather have more MK with crappy printing than less haha.

Oh god, now that summer sports are ending I'm going to play so much Mage Knight. It will be glorious.

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


silvergoose posted:

I know it is but you play cards around the table and then someone wins all the cards and then you play more cards. That's why I said trick taking ISH. Hmph. I still put it in the same genre as Bridge, though. And, um. That game you play with Tarot cards.
Tricks are very specifically a single round of cards where everyone plays only on card.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Tekopo posted:

Tricks are very specifically a single round of cards where everyone plays only on card.

I'm aware. I still consider Tichu and Bridge to be like games.

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(
Regarding the new MK expansion

I played it yesterday, it's hard as balls. There are two faction leaders you have to beat and I just run out of time.
As you travel through in the main game, all the glades have been replaced by brown and green special dudes you have to fight, so it's waaay more combat heavy than the regular game. The reward is supposed to be that when you beat faction enemies you get special skill tokens that you can 1-time use, and the obvious extra fame/rep to counteract the increased combat and harder "end bosses". Problem is that you end up inevitably pushing your hand a little too hard towards combat given the heavy focus, and to move onto the glades at night through forest you're spending 5 movement (there are cards to mitigate that but it never feels like enough.) I always seem to get through too slow and take out one faction leader, get to the second one, and run out of time.

I don't mind though, it's a new challenge and something to work towards.

The faction leaders are hard as well, but I really like them. You have to fight the standard dump of dudes depending on their initial level, but you also have to keep doing damage to the leader to reduce the leaders level. As the level reduces the leader attack you with different attacks during combat, or takes different amounts of armor to drop down to another level or gains different resistances. A strategy here is if you do enough damage to reduce the leader by say 3 levels, you don't have to deal with any of the attacks or resistances on those levels you jumped over, so if you know you're light on fire block, and the next level has lots of fire attacks, you know to push extra to move past it. The final encounter flow is very nice.

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

BonHair posted:

At least you guys are getting your expansion, I still can't find anywhere that has it :(

If you're in the USA I got mine at Amazon, with like a $10 markup. But I needed my MK and didn't want to wait.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Madmarker posted:

I'm El Grande. Never played it, but I can dig it.

You have a big black cock inside you, and you enjoy it.

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

Playing Arctic Scavengers this evening and maybe some other poo poo. Don't have 4 for Meuterer sadly.

I need to get rid of a bunch of my older stuff. Maybe combine Dominion + Prosperity into 1 box and figure out how to get rid of SW: Underground but it's not that bad...tiny apartment extra-problems.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

sonatinas posted:

If you're in the USA I got mine at Amazon, with like a $10 markup. But I needed my MK and didn't want to wait.

Denmark is not USA :(

I guess I'm race for the Galaxy, which is a game I don't really know. Guess I gotta post to get up to Keyflower!

Jedit posted:

You have a big black cock inside you, and you enjoy it.

If you don't enjoy big cocks inside you, you are wrong :colbert:

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

Andarel posted:

Playing Arctic Scavengers this evening and maybe some other poo poo. Don't have 4 for Meuterer sadly.

I need to get rid of a bunch of my older stuff. Maybe combine Dominion + Prosperity into 1 box and figure out how to get rid of SW: Underground but it's not that bad...tiny apartment extra-problems.

There's storage solutions for dominion that squeeze every card/expansion for it into one big box size for the game. Gotta sever the attachment to original boxes for it though.

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

^^ I've only got base + prosperity, might see if I can fit everything in a 300ct or 600ct. Much more efficient that way and I don't pull the game out that often anymore.


BonHair posted:

Denmark is not USA :(

I guess I'm race for the Galaxy, which is a game I don't really know. Guess I gotta post to get up to Keyflower

It's The Best Game so everything worked out okay.

If you like fast card games with race condition wins and building a board there's not much that compares to it. Glory to Rome's got the powers but it's way less elegant and the race can be awkward because pool control is so big.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry

Lord Frisk posted:

"The only good use of dice in a modern board game"

- some genius, about CoB

Got to play a demo of The Voyages of Marco Polo the other day. It's got pretty good use of dice.

How has it got pretty good use of dice?

Well, you get various special character powers, and one guy's power is that he just places the dice how he wants, he doesn't roll them. He is not really at an obvious advantage.

Sometimes you want high dice, sometimes you want low dice, and if your roll is terrible you get compensation in scarce resources.

Zveroboy
Apr 17, 2007

If you take those sheep again I will bury this fucking axe in your skull.

Andarel posted:

I need to get rid of a bunch of my older stuff. Maybe combine Dominion + Prosperity into 1 box and figure out how to get rid of SW: Underground but it's not that bad...tiny apartment extra-problems.



That's all the cards from Base, Seaside, Prosperity and Hinterlands in one box (the Prosperity one), and there's just enough room for Intrigue's kingdom cards when I get my hands on a copy. I'm not really bothered about bigger storage solutions because once I have Intrigue I'm considering my Dominion collection complete and have no interest in the other expansions.

The dividers are one of the many provided on BGG (sumpfork's) printed on plain paper and put inside penny sleeves with spare Dominion treasure cards (as I bought the box of Base Set cards with the new artwork). The frame is just 3mm foamboard from Tesco, took me a couple hours from start to finish.

Here's a picture from when it just had cards from Base and Hinterlands in. The six compartments in the left and center sections each hold about 20 sets of Kingdom cards and their dividers. Top right compartment has all the standard Treasures and Victory cards, as well as all the Randomiser cards. Last compartment in the bottom right has a small tackle box for the victory, embargo and coin tokens, and room for the various player mats that come with Prosperity and Seaside.

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking of. Will only save me 1 box of space though, sadly.

Taran_Wanderer
Nov 4, 2013

nimby posted:

Probably 5, maybe 6. Everyone's new, the owner has played a turn with his girlfriend to test the waters, but I think I'm going to be the one explaining it. I've already gone through the manual, but without owning the game, it's a bit harder to grasp all the bits working together. At least Here I Stand has a good manual to learn from, even if it's 40 pages.

We already have set aside about a day for it, because it'll also be used as socializing time due to the owner's birthday.

I highly recommend getting six players for it. Five players will work, but all of you are new to it so the player controlling two powers will have a much more difficult time. If you do end up with five, I would have the same player control the Hapsburgs and the Papacy, rather then England and the Protestants as the Scenario book suggests. Personally, I think playing the Protestants is a lot more fun then playing the Papacy by itself. It's probably also a bit more balanced, for what that's worth. I'd also assign each player a power beforehand so they can read the rules most pertaining to them (e.g. Ottomans read about Piracy, Hapsburgs/England/France read about the New World, England reads about Six Wives, Protestant/Papacy reads about Religion, etc). Really, everyone should at least glance at the rulebook before you play, or at least a summary sheet like that "How to Play Here I Stand in 20 minutes" someone linked earlier. You or the owner should be the Hapsburgs, as they're by far the most complicated faction. Ottomans are the simplest/most straightforward. Protestants and Papacy are fairly straightforward (they mostly just focus on Religion), but make sure whoever controls them gets the Religion rules down. England is usually pretty easy, as they don't have to worry about wars getting to them unless they screw up, and they can afford to dabble in most aspects of the game. France is the most political power, as they're stuck in the middle of everyone and they'll need to negotiate carefully to make sure they last long enough to get their VPs.

If you would like to give the game a try to get a handle on the rules, I should be around tonight. There's a module for Here I Stand at wargameroom.com and there's usually one or two people willing to play.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

sonatinas posted:

If you're in the USA I got mine at Amazon, with like a $10 markup. But I needed my MK and didn't want to wait.

My local shop hasn't got a copy (they have a dedicated 30% off MSRP, its usually better than Amazon), but lucky for me Canadian Amazon is more than willing to sell me a copy for the low low price of only $48 :argh:
https://www.amazon.ca/Mage-Knight-Shades-of-Tezla/dp/B012E7T3JU

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

Rutibex posted:

My local shop hasn't got a copy (they have a dedicated 30% off MSRP, its usually better than Amazon), but lucky for me Canadian Amazon is more than willing to sell me a copy for the low low price of only $48 :argh:
https://www.amazon.ca/Mage-Knight-Shades-of-Tezla/dp/B012E7T3JU

Dang, 30% off MSRP is pretty good for an FLGS. Is that on all board games? Since I've heard flgs usually get games for 50 - 60% of MSRP those are pretty tight margins.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Andarel posted:

Dang, 30% off MSRP is pretty good for an FLGS. Is that on all board games? Since I've heard flgs usually get games for 50 - 60% of MSRP those are pretty tight margins.

Yup, it's for all board games, and they have a pretty good selection. The owner also posts pics of all the new inventory when it comes in to facebook, so I don't even need to go down there to window shop :v: That's good because the shop is in the rear end end of town, in an industrial park (I can only assume his rent is dirt cheap).

They do a board game night twice a month, and the usual Warhammer/Magic/D&D nights. I imagine he makes most of his money off of Magic cards and selling snacks during the game nights. The 30% off board games just lures people in.

Rutibex fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Aug 7, 2015

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

Not bad, not bad at all. Thank god for low rents letting stores be awesome.

Around here everything is too expensive on the rent front ;-;

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
One of my local shops (there are like 5 or 6 within a half hour or so...) is the store front for Cardhaus, so I can get everything at whatever price it is on the website, and never have to pay shipping. When I found this out, my board game spending went up...a bit.

poronty
Oct 19, 2006
a hung Aryan
How much replayability does Freedom: The Underground Railroad have, and how complex is it? I find the whole theme really intriguing, and from my one quick readthrough of the rulebook the game sounds like something I might love, but I just read some comments comparing it to Pandemic, which is a bit worrying as I got bored/burnt out by that game pretty quickly, about 4-5 plays were plenty enough for a good while. Is it at least a bit more complex than Pandemic? I did read through the rules, but it's kinda difficult for me to tell without actually seeing the game in action.

Durendal
Jan 25, 2008

Who made you God to say
"I'll take your sheep from you?"



sonatinas posted:

Where are you getting them. Lots I see are not opaque that are not black or white dice bags.

My FLGS actually. For online, check the artscow geek list on BGG as they have designs for some very nice drawstring bags:

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

bobvonunheil posted:

This has me thinking about the BGG ranking system a little though. Is there any way to filter votes on their system? If, say, we wanted to exclude votes made before 2013, or cut off the first 20% of votes made for any given game, is that possible? I don't know how to get into BGG's statistics backend like some people seem to be able to.

I think that a weighting given to votes over time would probably be a better way to go than their current system - so the most recent votes have more weight than those made when a game first came out and people are still wearing rose-tinted glasses about them.

You can if you know how to manipulate their API, I don't. Occasionally you'll see posts from people who have done so, I remember one post where the guy took out all the 10's and the 1's and then re-ranked everything.

Radioactive Toy
Sep 14, 2005

Nothing has ever happened here, nothing.

Rutibex posted:

Yup, it's for all board games, and they have a pretty good selection. The owner also posts pics of all the new inventory when it comes in to facebook, so I don't even need to go down there to window shop :v: That's good because the shop is in the rear end end of town, in an industrial park (I can only assume his rent is dirt cheap).

They do a board game night twice a month, and the usual Warhammer/Magic/D&D nights. I imagine he makes most of his money off of Magic cards and selling snacks during the game nights. The 30% off board games just lures people in.

Do you live in Illinois? I've been shopping at The Gaming Goat which sounds just like that. I love being able to pick up games for Amazon prices at a local store.

fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

Yeah I posted some guild rankings here months ago using their api and some Python. Been meaning to do some more things but have been busy. If you can write Python there is a pretty good bgg library on github

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

BGG API is actually a lot easier to use than the rest of the site if you go through the documentation. Especially with the resources that are running around.

Just not the fastest.

Gimnbo
Feb 13, 2012

e m b r a c e
t r a n q u i l i t y



So tomorrow I'm going to try to get The Voyages of Marco Polo to the table. It will be our first game and I'm wondering about whether I should take the manual's advice and use Raschid ad-Din Sinan. This isn't because I think he looks unbalanced but because I've read of people thinking that taking the dice rolling away can make the game kind of boring for the Raschid player. Does anyone who's played the game have any input on this?

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!
A friend has asked me to poll the gooncensus for Lords of Waterdeep.

AMooseDoesStuff
Dec 20, 2012

Toshimo posted:

A friend has asked me to poll the gooncensus for Lords of Waterdeep.

Bland by the numbers Worker Placement. Even if you like D&D [lol] it's got nothing resembling theme.
Also occasionally massively broken I think?

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Toshimo posted:

A friend has asked me to poll the gooncensus for Lords of Waterdeep.

It is to worker placement as Splendor is to...uh, whatever it is, in that it's a game and satisfies that requirement. It's pretty solid as an introductory to worker placement games, but has enough bad elements to it (a lot more luck than I'd prefer in my worker placement games, for instance) that you can probably safely graduate to Agricola or Caylus after a couple games.

Or just go straight to Caylus.

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

AMooseDoesStuff posted:

Bland by the numbers Worker Placement. Even if you like D&D [lol] it's got nothing resembling theme.
Also occasionally massively broken I think?

It's pretty much this, but it's not all that bad. Super straightforward and decent as an intro game but if they're used to modern mechanics and have a bit more time there are plenty of other things I'd pick over it. Expansion helps.

I've never seen it get massively broken though.

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Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Toshimo posted:

A friend has asked me to poll the gooncensus for Lords of Waterdeep.

Super basic worker placement. The only interesting aspect of the game is implemented really poorly.

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