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Josh Lyman posted:I don't get this You would if you worked at HP
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HP was a company with ~130k employees, she laid off 30k people during her tenure as ceo
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Aug 7, 2015 16:21
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The Nastier Nate posted:Rubio clearly did his homework. He clearly checked off all his talking points without saying anything too stupid, looking presidential, and not even needing a drink of water on camera. He practically did. I feel like he missed an opportunity there. I think he rambled and ran out of time, but it felt like he was gearing up to say something like "Yeah I donate to politicians and they give me stuff back. That's how politics works. These fuckers here are all bankrolled by billionaires. But I'm so rich I don't need anyone's money. Who would you trust more?" But he never really got past the first part, so it just became "I'm corrupt" without the "..but they're more corrupt." I will say his deflection of "what favour did Clinton give you?" with "she came to my wedding" was masterful though.
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Aug 7, 2015 16:22
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Joementum posted:Much like Mitt Romney, she likes firing people.
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Aug 7, 2015 16:25
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Alter Ego posted:The funniest outcome of this whole farce would be this: It's a long shot but I have so much hope in my heart for this. It would be the most perfect thing that has ever happened.
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Aug 7, 2015 16:26
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To the surprise of nobody, birther site WND is on the Trumpwagon.
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Joementum posted:An experiment by the Scott Walker campaign. It needs the correct music; the Star Wars Imperial March.
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Aug 7, 2015 16:27
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Megyn seemed pretty pissed when people cheered that Rosie O'Donnel remark. I have to admit when I watched that clip I found it rather curious and mildly dissapointed that a crowd of adults would cheer and physically roll in their chairs laughing at remarks that one would hear in an elementary school playground. Really says a lot about the GOP crowd when you hear a response like that.
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Aug 7, 2015 16:36
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Joementum posted:An experiment by the Scott Walker campaign. He sounds like a man trying very hard not to do a Mayor Quimby impersonation.
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Aug 7, 2015 16:38
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Agrajag posted:I have to admit when I watched that clip I found it rather curious and mildly dissapointed that a crowd of adults would cheer and physically roll in their chairs laughing at remarks that one would hear in an elementary school playground. Really says a lot about the GOP crowd when you hear a response like that. POLITICAL PARTY WOOOOOOOO
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Agrajag posted:I have to admit when I watched that clip I found it rather curious and mildly dissapointed that a crowd of adults would cheer and physically roll in their chairs laughing at remarks that one would hear in an elementary school playground. Really says a lot about the GOP crowd when you hear a response like that. This is megyn kellys punishment Oh and hey did I totally imagine it or did trump say he wants to eliminate states so that business is easier while also building a wall to keep out Mexicans (I'm assuming the Mexicans will build it as well)
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Aug 7, 2015 16:40
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I don't know how representative they are of the GOP primary masses, but gauging the crowd I run with, Rubio and Fiorina will be the big movers, and take away support from Bush and Walker. Trump will emerge literally unscathed and still poll between 20 and 30%.
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Aug 7, 2015 16:41
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I'm fairly confident that Rubio is gonna be the establishment pick at this point based on the way Fox talked about him with Fiorina or an extra crazy as running mate
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Aug 7, 2015 16:45
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POLITICO predictably jumps on board the "Trump lost the debate!" bandwagon the GOP elites are trying to push. It really is fascinating to watch the right-wing establishment media try to take down a right-wing populist insurgent candidate like this. Wonder what'll happen if Trump's poll numbers end up staying the same, or even go up as a result of this. Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:I'm fairly confident that Rubio is gonna be the establishment pick at this point based on the way Fox talked about him with Fiorina or an extra crazy as running mate Yeah, the article I just cited also declares Rubio as one of the "winners" in the debate. (Even though I can't remember a single noteworthy thing he said.)
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Aug 7, 2015 16:46
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Watching Trump win the GOP nomination will mean that I can die happy. America the golf course. 
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Alter Ego posted:The funniest outcome of this whole farce would be this: I would personally sacrifice any number of kittens, puppies, and baby owls to any god, demon, or genie that promised me this outcome in its entirety. Alter Ego posted:If this happens the convention would become primo watch material. Someone in this or another thread once said something like "the most hilarious outcome would be a brokered convention with Trump as the kingmaker" and I agree wholeheartedly. The phrase "brokered convention" itself is deeply amusing to me in no small part to the spinal chills it must give to so many people.
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Pinterest Mom posted:HP was a company with ~130k employees, she laid off 30k people during her tenure as ceo The best part is that the market valued her leadership at roughly negative 3bn dollars. The value of the company's stock went up by literally 3bn in one day after she left. http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/09/technology/hp_fiorina/index.htm If she can bring that kind of value to HP imagine what she could bring to the US federal government!
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Ignite Memories posted:It's a long shot but I have so much hope in my heart for this. It would be the most perfect thing that has ever happened. Now begins 8 years of (actual) socialist darkness 
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"This was more of an inquisition than it was a debate... At the end of the day, ask the man a question that explains his position and his solutions rather than a ten-minute question that describes him as the biggest bastard on the planet" --Lindsey Graham
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Any momentum on the "Trump is a liberal plant to kill the GOP" theory lately? I heard on Maddow he apparently spoke with Bill Clinton before running. 
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Aug 7, 2015 16:53
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drudgereport has Trump as the clear winner at 45.5%, runners up were Cruz with 14%, Rubio with 10%, and Carson with 9%. I'd link, but gently caress that cesspool site.
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NotWearingPants posted:drudgereport has Trump as the clear winner at 45.5%, runners up were Cruz with 14%, Rubio with 10%, and Carson with 9%.
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Aug 7, 2015 16:59
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Neeksy posted:More like the other kids went online and got a bunch of wealthy pedophiles to buy expensive soapbox cars, too. You're right. I hosed up the analogy. It's a soapbox race, wherein the kids are supposed to make their own, but all the parents secretly help out. Little orphan Scotty Walker's got the Koch brothers helping him out. Donald Trump is himself, using a lack of formal rules to get into the race, driving a sports car. He's the bad guy, but since all of these kids are shitheads, it's oddly fun to watch. Oddly enough, if the Republican establishment has actually accepted the idea of billionaire puppeteers picking and endorsing candidates as kind of an unofficial rule of the modern party, I can totally understand why they look at Trump as almost a villainous presence. He really does break their rules; their culture of appearing like a legitimate democratic process while really being a bunch of bullshit. Having Fox News try to go full propaganda mode to try to realign the race and take him down and have it not loving work must be really disturbing for the head honchos. I know Obama had a bit of establishment support in his '08 run, but was there this kind of response from the DNC back when he was still picking up steam against Hillary? I mean, I know the media has had a hard time envisioning Bernie as a legit candidate, and I don't really blame them. I don't think, going into things, even Bernie Sanders considered himself legitimate in the "might actually win" sense, but in comparison the RNC's behavior in response to Trump's insurgency seems to be brazenly undemocratic, and kind of shows their hand in the whole process. Maybe it's just because this is really close to the straw that schisms the Right's back, so their in kind of a panic mode trying to reign him in or remove him. bobtheconqueror fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Aug 7, 2015 |
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NotWearingPants posted:Carson is by far the smartest one on that stage, right? Head of neurosurgery at John Hopkins? I guess he's some kind of idiot savant though. EXTREME INSERTION posted:You think I'm joking when I say "chemo brain", but I'm convinced that the chemo hosed him up You know, just because someone disagrees with you on a political issue doesn't make them an idiot! Also it's pretty disgusting to throw any minority that doesn't agree with you 100% under the bus. Shows how little you actually care about minorities if they happen disagree with you on a policy point. Like honestly how do you function in the real world with such attitudes. After college you actually have to interact with people outside of an echo chamber.
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tsa posted:You know, just because someone disagrees with you on a political issue doesn't make them an idiot! That's true. Independently, Ben Carson is an idiot.
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Is there a place to see the debate in its entirety? All I'm finding on youtube are small clips. I want to experience the amateur-hour first 10 minutes. 
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quadrophrenic posted:Trump starts Twitter slapfight with Megyn Kelly at 3am To be fair the focus groups were complete bullshit though.
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Aug 7, 2015 17:21
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Nonsense posted:Trump is gonna run independent. After that attempt at a public execution by Fox, I am so sure of this. Where can I bet on Trump running as a 3rd party?
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bobtheconqueror posted:You're right. I hosed up the analogy. It's a soapbox race, wherein the kids are supposed to make their own, but all the parents secretly help out. Little orphan Scotty Walker's got the Koch brothers helping him out. Donald Trump is himself, using a lack of formal rules to get into the race, driving a sports car. He's the bad guy, but since all of these kids are shitheads, it's oddly fun to watch. In American politics, trump is the heroic outsider who shakes up the status quo. This is why everything is terrible.
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tsa posted:To be fair the focus groups were complete bullshit though. Frank Luntz is kind of a slob, he's right about that. I was hypnotized by his ill fitting jacket sleeves, shirt collar, and half done tie. You're on national television guy, you look like a teenager who borrowed clothes from daddy's closet
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tsa posted:Also it's pretty disgusting to throw any minority that doesn't agree with you 100% under the bus. Shows how little you actually care about minorities if they happen disagree with you on a policy point. quote:Cut every agency spending by 10%, with no exceptions. quote:Rome's decline began with immoral lifestyle; like in America. quote:5-year federal hiring freeze, to decrease size of government. quote:ObamaCare is the worst thing since slavery. quote:God says tithe at 10%; no triple tithe for bumper crops. These aren't just policy disagreements, the man has a fundamental misunderstanding of basic policy issues. We can keep going. quote:“Because 9/11 is an isolated incident. Things that are isolated issues as opposed to things that fundamentally change the United Sates of America and shift power from the people to the government. That is a huge shift. You have to take a long-term look at something that fundamentally changes the power structure of America.” - Carson claiming that “Obamacare” is worse than 9/11 quote:2. “I mean, [America is] very much like Nazi Germany. And I know you’re not supposed to say ‘Nazi Germany,’ but I don’t care about political correctness. You know, you had a government using its tools to intimidate the population. We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe.” quote:7. “Certainly there’s the potential because you have to recognize that we have a rapidly increasing national debt, a very unstable financial foundation, and you have all these things going on like the ISIS crisis that could very rapidly change things that are going on in our nation. And unless we begin to deal with these things in a comprehensive way and in a logical way there is no telling what could happen in just a couple of years.” quote:8. “I think most people when they finish that course, they’d be ready to go sign up for ISIS.” AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Aug 7, 2015 |
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Is there a popularity cut-off for the DNC debates? Is it just going to be Bernie versus Hillary based on current data?
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District Selectman posted:Frank Luntz is kind of a slob, he's right about that. I was hypnotized by his ill fitting jacket sleeves, shirt collar, and half done tie. You're on national television guy, you look like a teenager who borrowed clothes from daddy's closet Besides that it was an obvious hit job, although those sorts of groups are useless in general because what people say/think when the camera is on them in a group setting is completely different than what they actually think. You can even see this when a lot of hands go up, inevitably 2 or 3 people will raise their hands a second later to 'join the crowd'. PrBacterio posted:So are there any post-debate poll results in yet? Watching the debate I honestly couldn't tell if it was going to help or hurt Trump in this world where nothing seems to faze his popularity. In a sane world this debate should have utterly sunk him but it's become pretty clear now that that's not the world we live in ... Accurate results take a couple days and in general the real effects take a week at least to settle in as the narratives form.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Is there a popularity cut-off for the DNC debates? Is it just going to be Bernie versus Hillary based on current data? 1%. O'Malley should make it in.
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Fox has forever tried to sell that a politician is good when they are a business man, an outsider, not afraid to 'speak the truth,' and tough on his critics. In reality, they just want whoever the Kochs or whoever is paying the bills wants. Trump is literally their perfect 'politician,' independent of the Koch brothers payroll. It's like watching their bullshit narrative blow up in their face and its just magical to watch. Bread Set Jettison fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Aug 7, 2015 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Is there a popularity cut-off for the DNC debates? Is it just going to be Bernie versus Hillary based on current data? I think I heard a 1% threshold mentioned.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:These aren't just policy disagreements, the man has a fundamental misunderstanding of basic policy issues. Guess what, they are saying the same thing as you. But you're "right" though, so don't worry your little head about it! gradenko_2000 posted:Is there a popularity cut-off for the DNC debates? Is it just going to be Bernie versus Hillary based on current data? Probably not, beyond keeping out complete no-names.
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Powered Descent posted:Is there a place to see the debate in its entirety? All I'm finding on youtube are small clips. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbCwc4d71eQ Doesn't have all of the pregame though
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tsa posted:
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