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Aug 2, 2015 14:11
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Leaving this thread is not as scary as it sounds.
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Aug 2, 2015 17:28
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Blood Dragon is far better than actual Far Cry 3 since you aren't playing a white savior, you're playing a cyborg savior. And Ready Player One reminds me why nerds still deserve to be stuffed in lockers.
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Aug 2, 2015 17:37
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I just want to point out Hotline Miami is a terrible representation of the 80s as well. It's closer to Blood Dragon and Kung Fury as the actual 80s. Seriously if you want something that has a true nostalgic feel for the 80s, Freaks and Geeks and That 80s Show. Everything else is trying way too hard. 
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Aug 2, 2015 18:18
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Ah the 80s Reagan, high tops, wholesale slaughter of apartment buildings Sounds about right
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Aug 2, 2015 18:21
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Skunkrocker posted:I just want to point out Hotline Miami is a terrible representation of the 80s as well. It's closer to Blood Dragon and Kung Fury as the actual 80s. Seriously if you want something that has a true nostalgic feel for the 80s, Freaks and Geeks and That 80s Show. Everything else is trying way too hard. I don't think it was really trying to represent the 80s? And the second game makes it clear that it's all alternate history anyway so uh
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Aug 2, 2015 19:17
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UIApplication posted:Ah the 80s Actually, there has been a HUGE drop in violence since the 80's.
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Aug 2, 2015 19:25
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Oh wow look at all the new posts in the Hotline Miami thread, I wonder if the level editor is outquote:Kung Fury  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 2, 2015 19:37
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Zaphod42 posted:Oh wow look at all the new posts in the Hotline Miami thread, I wonder if the level editor is out gently caress YOU. if you see someone post this bullshit in a thread, report them so that i may smash them. nobody gives a poo poo that you saw a certain amount of posts and were either surprised by their content or just outright deemed them not worth reading. people post about varying poo poo. sometimes threads don't stick to a specific topic because sidebar conversations can happen. this is natural. it doesn't last forever. nobody gives a poo poo about how many posts you saw.
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Aug 2, 2015 20:30
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Kung Fury bitching is an especially boring and lovely conversation to be fair
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Aug 2, 2015 20:42
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Moartoast posted:Words dude what the hell Skunkrocker posted:I just want to point out Hotline Miami is a terrible representation of the 80s as well. It's closer to Blood Dragon and Kung Fury as the actual 80s. Seriously if you want something that has a true nostalgic feel for the 80s, Freaks and Geeks and That 80s Show. Everything else is trying way too hard. Hotline Miami and the 80s do have one thing in common, which is that neither is as good as everyone remembers them to be.
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Aug 3, 2015 00:39
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I AM DETECTIV MANNY PAHDO I GO KIL BAD GUYS IN STORE, BOAT, AN EVEN POLICES How about we talk about that poo poo instead of the unrelated bullshit you've been discussing, or we just let this thread die a slow, sweet death.
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Aug 3, 2015 01:07
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Slave of GMod got updated. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=249207064 The AI is better and there's some new maps.
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Aug 3, 2015 01:23
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Aug 3, 2015 03:29
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Anatharon posted:Slave of GMod got updated. Why did they ruin a good idea by making it about something that no sane person over the age of 12 gives a gently caress about? But I subscribed anyway in case I ever install GMod again (never).
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Aug 3, 2015 16:20
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King Vidiot posted:Why did they ruin a good idea by making it about something that no sane person over the age of 12 gives a gently caress about? I'm pretty sure any sane person over 12 can just skip that part. It's pretty fun!
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Aug 3, 2015 22:02
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Pirate Jet posted:Hotline Miami and the 80s do have one thing in common, which is that neither is as good as everyone remembers them to be. They have something else in common, in that they both have some really incredible music.
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Aug 4, 2015 00:03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCjKTU21V8o
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Aug 4, 2015 00:13
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This is a pretty good run and commentary isn't unbearable to listen to so far, but man that loving chat, holy poo poo. I can't deal with those assholes
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Aug 4, 2015 10:16
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dasmause posted:This is a pretty good run and commentary isn't unbearable to listen to so far, but man that loving chat, holy poo poo. I can't deal with those assholes The run exists without twitch chat. Should be on the GamesDoneQuick channel, or if you want to watch in Twitch there's a reddit thread for that
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Aug 4, 2015 10:27
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It is weird to me how after spending the entire late 80s and early 90s sabotaging cousins, siblings and friends so I could get my turn, we now have a generation who willingly sits and watches some nerdball playing a game.
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Aug 4, 2015 10:38
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Sleeveless posted:gently caress YOU. if you see someone post this bullshit in a thread, report them so that i may smash them. nobody gives a poo poo that you saw a certain amount of posts and were either surprised by their content or just outright deemed them not worth reading. people post about varying poo poo. sometimes threads don't stick to a specific topic because sidebar conversations can happen. this is natural. it doesn't last forever. nobody gives a poo poo about how many posts you saw. Allow me to rephrase then: "drat that was a lovely derail" (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 4, 2015 15:41
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Lord Lambeth posted:I don't think it was really trying to represent the 80s? And the second game makes it clear that it's all alternate history anyway so uh Yeah, Hotline Miami may be set in the 80's but it's not trying to pass itself off as some 80's nostalgia trip. Like yeah, he's got an NES in his apartment, and the graphics are pixels, but it's at no point going "hey guys, remember...COMMANDO!?!?!" and then Michael Beihn, on a short vacation from making terrible direct to video Christian films, says "oval office stabber" for no reason.
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Aug 5, 2015 07:09
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It wasn't doing nostalgia, the creators just liked some of the aesthetics and ditched the parts they didn't like. It's really as simple as that
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Aug 5, 2015 07:21
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TheJoker138 posted:Yeah, Hotline Miami may be set in the 80's but it's not trying to pass itself off as some 80's nostalgia trip. Oh no, the main character just rides around in a DeLorean and there are neon lights everywhere and you're beating up guys dressed like Scarface and there is the whole Soviet angle like out of any movie and it's directly inspired and even specifically mentions masked slasher movies and the entire soundtrack is inspired by the synth soundtracks of 80s action films and are you taking the piss?
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Aug 5, 2015 07:24
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I believe the point is that Hotline Miami has merits that involve things that aren't just "hey guys the 80s."prahanormal posted:They have something else in common, in that they both have some really incredible music. I agree! BillmasterCozb posted:I AM DETECTIV MANNY PAHDO Discussion usually involves going off into side subjects and discussing things' shortcomings. What it does not involve is endless repetition of stuff like whatever weird-rear end meme bullshit you just posted was, or infinite queries on what the thread thinks of your new subject-themed avatar.
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Aug 5, 2015 07:31
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Pirate Jet posted:I believe the point is that Hotline Miami has merits that involve things that aren't just "hey guys the 80s." Yes, this. And the things that are "hey guys, the 80's" are all minor aesthetic things. Yes, he drives a DeLorean, but they don't focus on it, and there's no wink and nod about how when it goes 88 mph you're going to see some serious poo poo. Also the direct inspiration for the lighting and soundtrack was Drive, which was made in the 00's, and much like Hotline Miami wears it's inspirations on it's sleeve without being a slave to them. There's neon, and synth, and people wearing suits like Scarface, sure. But no one is going "I'm a maniac...on the floor" and then murdering a guy named Tony Alaska in front of a "The World Is Mine" globe. My point is there's a difference between setting your work of fiction in a specific time frame, like the 80's, and using the aesthetics that fit that time frame, and making something that is literally nothing but "HEY GUYS LOOK AT THIS WE MADE THE GUY GO 'SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND,' PLEASE LOVE US BECAUSE WE KNOW THE SAME THINGS YOU KNOW!" which is all that stuff like Kung Fury and Blood Dragon do.
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TheJoker138 posted:Yes, this. And the things that are "hey guys, the 80's" are all minor aesthetic things. Yes, he drives a DeLorean, but they don't focus on it, and there's no wink and nod about how when it goes 88 mph you're going to see some serious poo poo. Also the direct inspiration for the lighting and soundtrack was Drive, which was made in the 00's, and much like Hotline Miami wears it's inspirations on it's sleeve without being a slave to them. There's neon, and synth, and people wearing suits like Scarface, sure. But no one is going "I'm a maniac...on the floor" and then murdering a guy named Tony Alaska in front of a "The World Is Mine" globe. While I agree with you that Kung Fury and Blood Dragon take it to an extreme that is self indulgent, Hotline Miami is still along the same vein, and even if it's not just as bad it's still up there. I still haven't seen Drive all the way through (and I own a copy, how bad is that?) so I cannot comment on it. Thing is, look at all of Denis' games. They're ALL like this. They're all heavily inspired by the 80s, but it's not the 80s we know but the stylized neo-retro 80s. It's the movie poster 80s. The album cover 80s. The music video 80s. It's as you said "aesthetics", but throwing those aesthetics in there doesn't represent the time period but rather a degenerated ideal of what the time period is remembered for. Again, it's Cafe 80s: it's not quite correct, it's nostalgic cheesiness. Even HLM falls victim to it a little bit. So like you said, yeah, it's minor and in content and stylization Hotline doesn't use it as a crutch. It's still there though. Kung Fury and Blood Dragon rely on it.
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There's also a thing where Hotline Miami is set in 80s for a reason. Of course it's kinda evident that they wanted to have an 80s style first and developed a plot around it later, but they did develop a plot around it, and because of that the timeframe becomes important, and so does the style, unlike the same Kung Fury, where it doesn't actually matter.
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Aug 5, 2015 19:08
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I guess now that HM2 tried to turn the series into some kind of dumb extended universe, it's easy to forget the days when HM was just a loving weird violent indie game by two guys who had previously done loving weird violent indie games. It wore its inspirations on its sleeve and everything felt kind of slapped together but that was kind of admirable. It's easier to stomach than when your project raises a million dollars on Kickstarter because "omg epic frysayingtakeallmymoney.jpg"
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Aug 5, 2015 20:14
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I remember someone in the thread described how The Son's chapter was a parallel to the Hotline Miami 1-2 dev story, which was pretty apt.
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Anatharon posted:Really interesting video. Dennis Wedin on Hotline Miami 2. Thanks for posting this, short but interesting. I was half expecting the stuff people didn't like about HM2 to be some kind of self-aware jab at their audience. Like the first game was all "You like violence in video games? Well, gently caress you, here's a game about violence to make you queasy!" And the second game went "You'd like the story of the first game explained? Well, gently caress you, here's a load of characters with tons of story that remove all mystery and at the end we kill everyone!" But it sounded like they just had lots of ideas for character and story that they wanted to include. And making the levels bigger wasn't for the purpose of making the game harder but to fit with the story. OTOH, that speed run shows how "easy" you can go, even with all the randomness and windows and whatnot. I'll never be that good and I'm afraid to play it again, because I know I'll be frustrated and end up with a B- rating. 
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Aug 6, 2015 23:21
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Level editor news update. http://dennaton.blogspot.co.uk/
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Aug 7, 2015 06:42
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Who is that he's got in the level? That doesn't look like any character I've ever seen.
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Aug 7, 2015 16:16
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JAssassin posted:Who is that he's got in the level? That doesn't look like any character I've ever seen. Richter.
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Aug 7, 2015 16:17
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Discendo Vox posted:Richter. Oh weird. Must be the daylight effect that's throwing off his color scheme.
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Aug 7, 2015 17:49
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Yo they are making a biker figure and it's got a kickstarter up. The standard model looks fantastic.
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Aug 7, 2015 18:00
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I just played through Deathwish again. Goddamn I love this loving game.
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Kind of related - Devolver digital sale! Hotline Miami is 75% off, the second is 33% off, and..Hatoful Boyfriend for $2.49? I uh..I'm gonna get that game. Maybe.
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