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If only I had seen the license plate that read "ONGAITOFANMLS"
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Aug 7, 2015 22:14
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Junkfist posted:If only I had seen the license plate that read "ONGAITOFANMLS" What is this Europe? 7 Alphanumerics man, Jesus 
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Aug 7, 2015 22:29
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Karnegal posted:What is this Europe? 7 Alphanumerics man, Jesus Tell that to this guy: 
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Aug 7, 2015 22:41
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Junkfist posted:If the audience knows more than the main character in a mystery or suspense then we have the additional problem of not being able to sympathize with the protagonist, their plight and their emotional state. I'd say you have some issues if you can't sympathize for Max who just saw her BFF shot in the loving head, was betrayed by her mentor, is drugged up, and knows that she's gonna get posed and probably killed with no hope for anyone to save her.
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Aug 7, 2015 22:45
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Junkfist posted:If the audience knows more than the main character in a mystery or suspense then we have the additional problem of not being able to sympathize with the protagonist, their plight and their emotional state. If you weren't sympathetic to Max as she helplessly attempted to rewind while watching her BFF drop dead to the ground, I don't know what to tell you. Pretty sure being a little nervous at what Jefferson/Nathan have in store for her is also a common feeling amongst players - even with the almost certainty that she'll escape somehow - since we don't know how far the devs will let the psychos go before that happens. Reminder that the protagonist is not a well-trained badass, just a teenager who already witnessed more poo poo that most people do in their whole lives, so if you don't relate to Max at least in some small way by now, that is definitely a problem, but I'm not sure the game's at fault here. edit: ^^^^ 'sup, fellow sympathizer seravid fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Aug 7, 2015 |
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Aug 7, 2015 22:47
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Did anyone ever post the txt messages you get if Kate is dead ? I'm still curious about that, but not curious enough to go back through 10-12 hours of gameplay.
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Aug 7, 2015 22:47
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Sir you need a mental evaluation if you don't deeply sympathize with Life is Strange, a story on par with Hamlet and the works of Aristotle despite it having very nebulous stakes and predictable setups. The use of three different "too cool for school" jokes this episode across different characters and universes by teenage girls who are really into 80s shows and music that a 30 something writer might like was ironic. Hey who knows maybe they'll surprise me with a "Dehumanize Your Selfie" ending where we get to kill Victoria and Nathan to become Jefferson's new apprentice, but I honestly don't expect this game to be as good as Way of the Samurai 4.
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Aug 7, 2015 23:01
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Junkfist posted:Hey who knows maybe they'll surprise me with a "Dehumanize Your Selfie" ending where we get to kill Victoria and Nathan to become Jefferson's new apprentice, but I honestly don't expect this game to be as good as Way of the Samurai 4. What you appear to be looking for in a game is certainly not what Life is Strange is going for. You may be interested in games like Grand Theft Auto, The Witcher, or The Phantom Pain. Those are probably closer to what you want out of a story. Also, Max Payne 2 was pretty good.
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Aug 7, 2015 23:12
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Junkfist posted:Sir you need a mental evaluation if you don't deeply sympathize with Life is Strange, a story on par with Hamlet and the works of Aristotle despite it having very nebulous stakes and predictable setups. The use of three different "too cool for school" jokes this episode across different characters and universes by teenage girls who are really into 80s shows and music that a 30 something writer might like was ironic. ...speaking of "too cool for school" At least you went from "no stakes" to "very nebulous stakes"; we'll get to solid s
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Aug 8, 2015 00:13
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You caught me we're at a point in a story as an audience where schrodinger's stakes may or may not exist depending on whether or not we rewind ti-wait wait they're disappearing poo poo.
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Aug 8, 2015 00:46
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You're projecting as fact on how you experienced a subjective story on to everyone else. No, everyone is not in agreement that the story has "no stakes." I'm sorry you don't seem to be enjoying a game you paid for, but on the bright side, you don't have to wait TWO FREAKING MONTHS FOR THE NEXT EPISODE. gently caress. You're also trying really hard to persuade us that the game is bad for some reason. It won't work, friend. Parkingtigers posted:One small touch I really liked was in the use of the Amanda Palmer song at the moment Max returned to the present. There's a break in the reunion dialogue right at the moment the song gets to the part about becoming "a good defensive driver". I don't know if intentional or just serendipity, but it sure felt to me like a comment on Chloe's car crash. Most of the licensed music in this game probably has a double meaning or something relevant to the story in them. They were intentionally chosen. For example, when Max first visits Chloe's room, Chloe asks Max to put on some music. Max finds a CD with "Santa Monica Dream" - Angus and Julius Stone in a box with a picture of Chloe and Rachel. They were both planning on leaving Arcadia Bay until Rachel disappeared and Chloe gave up trying to leave in an effort to search for Rachel. Some of the lyrics can be interpreted to be Chloe's thoughts after Rachel went missing. code: " Its just a fun little thing we can use our imaginations about to fill in some back story, which is part of what makes this game so cool.Although, now that I think about it, Max does have an explicit line where she wonders if this song has special meaning to Chloe, so i'm not as clever as I thought. The ending montage of episode 1 features Syd Matters - Obstacles playing over it, while the camera looks at different characters noticing a snow shower in 80 degree weather. At the end of that episode, I, and many others, were on board for a coming of age story with a twee hipster girl. Max rekindling her friendship with her estranged best friend was in front of us, and the grimdark turns in episode 4 were a long way off. code:Torgo2727 fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Aug 8, 2015 |
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Aug 8, 2015 01:06
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One small touch I really liked was in the use of the Amanda Palmer song at the moment Max returned to the present. There's a break in the reunion dialogue right at the moment the song gets to the part about becoming "a good defensive driver". I don't know if intentional or just serendipity, but it sure felt to me like a comment on Chloe's car crash.
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Aug 8, 2015 01:14
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Torgo2727 posted:You're projecting as fact on how you experienced a subjective story on to everyone else. No, everyone is not in agreement that the story has "no stakes." I'm sorry you don't seem to be enjoying a game you paid for, but on the bright side, you don't have to wait TWO FREAKING MONTHS FOR THE NEXT EPISODE. gently caress. Um excuse me I've explicitly stated I like this silly game with a bad story that has no stakes in this thread, though certainly not enough to dissect Amanda Palmer lyrics.
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Aug 8, 2015 02:57
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Junkfist posted:Um excuse me I've explicitly stated I like this silly game with a bad story that has no stakes in this thread, though certainly not enough to dissect Amanda Palmer lyrics. Clearly not. Also, I didn't dissect the Amanda Palmer song. 
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Aug 8, 2015 03:09
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i'm slightly less of a nerd then you!!!! No! I am the less nerd!!!!! Actually I am a huge loser nerd that enjoyed that little musing on how the music connects to the story even if I don't have time or inclination to examine any of it myself
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Aug 8, 2015 04:44
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The best part of every thread is when someone posts a negative opinion and everyone gets mad.
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Aug 8, 2015 08:07
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Zelder posted:The best part of every thread is when someone posts a negative opinion and everyone gets mad. I actually think the best part is when someone posts this comment as if they are the first one to notice it. We get it guys, all something awful threads follow the same patterns. All this has happened before and all this will happen again.
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Aug 8, 2015 09:05
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Talorat posted:I actually think the best part is when someone posts this comment as if they are the first one to notice it. Heh. Well, this is my favourite part.
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Aug 8, 2015 10:02
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My favorite part of last episode is when Max cattily bitched to Chloe about Victoria winning the Everyday Heroes contest while they're on a murder-hunt under a double-moon since finding Rachel Amber's rotting corpse with about 6 hours remaining before tornado touchdown. It really helps establish Max as a self-involved budding psychopath who's going to recreate the ending of The Ninth Gate by loving Mr. Jefferson in front of a burning lighthouse.
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Aug 8, 2015 17:54
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max is cool
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Aug 8, 2015 17:56
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Junkfist posted:My favorite part of last episode is when Max cattily bitched to Chloe about Victoria winning the Everyday Heroes contest while they're on a murder-hunt under a double-moon since finding Rachel Amber's rotting corpse with about 6 hours remaining before tornado touchdown. Yeah I dunno about that beef especially since you may or may not have just made friends with her.
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Aug 8, 2015 18:09
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That sequence is all over the place. An egocentric kid stopping for a minute to see who won the big contest is fine, but acting disgusted at Victoria for blackmailing Jefferson when she just wished her luck (if you went that way) is an inexcusable mistake in this genre. It's either that or the devs just assumed every player would be a spiteful rear end in a top hat who willingly throws Victoria to the wolves instead of making peace. Worst of all is still Max's sudden and inexplicable bloodlust; all game long she's the voice of reason to balance Chloe's recklessness - not to mention specifically warning her to not rely on her powers - but the plot needs both of them to act brain-dead, so let's go alone in the middle of the night in an isolated creepy junkyard because an insane drug addict told us to!
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Aug 8, 2015 18:41
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It is completely consistent with the previous episodes that Max does really dumb poo poo because Chloe says so.
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Aug 8, 2015 21:48
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I tried warning Victoria but, due to some previous Looking back on it now, I guess that still makes me kind of an rear end in a top hat.  edit: Playing cautious with spoilers, I guess.
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Aug 8, 2015 22:17
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seravid posted:
I think this is something they failed to show and not just tell, because if you check Max's journal during this sequence Max writes that she's following Chloe along to try to keep her from straight up killing Nathan.
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Aug 9, 2015 02:47
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AriadneThread posted:I think this is something they failed to show and not just tell, because if you check Max's journal during this sequence Max writes that she's following Chloe along to try to keep her from straight up killing Nathan. Also, I just learned that it's possible for Chloe's phone to have a picture of Max as the wallpaper and not the one of her and Rachel if you back Chloe on big decisions. I'm an awful friend  e: jesus the name Chloe like the female version of Michael. There are multiple people in my life with both names and I should I know how to spell it by now, but I'm just dumb. Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Aug 9, 2015 |
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Aug 9, 2015 03:02
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Moltrey posted:Chole You watched Dranks too huh? It was pretty good after Broteam's brain fell apart at the clues section I think he legitimately blacked out and started talking about the time Paul Bernardo tried to kill his mother for her feet.
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Aug 9, 2015 03:24
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Junkfist posted:You watched Dranks too huh?
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Aug 9, 2015 03:37
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Moltrey posted:It's kinda strange they didn't show it for this, yet did for a lot of other things. Stuff like swimming pool and the junkyard scenes felt like they had a lot more "Aw geez, Chloe, I dunno about this." options than Chloe stomping into a party on school grounds carrying a gun. I figure that anything Max would say then wouldn't really have an effect on Chloe anyway considering that she just found Rachel's dead body , but it felt odd to have it completely absent. Yeah the journal has a lot of characterization that's never mentioned,like a ton of it.
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Aug 9, 2015 04:05
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Completely forgot about the journal, I haven't read most of this episode's entries. It really does feel like a necessary tool - that shouldn't exist or at least be this essential - to get the whole picture. But whatever the journal says, in-game Max's answer to Chloe's line "Who cares about the contest? I want Nathan's punkass now" (paraphrasing) is "Yeah, me too", so my point stands. VagueRant posted:It is completely consistent with the previous episodes that Max does really dumb poo poo because Chloe says so. Playing with a gun shooting bottles was a dumb way to bond; breaking into the school (with keys) was part of the investigation; going to Frank was risky, but needed for the code book; those are consistent in that they all had a clear goal and the pros outweighed the cons. Actively hunting down a deranged and armed junkie? That's all cons and the goal is simply revenge. Moltrey posted:Also, I just learned that it's possible for Chloe's phone to have a picture of Max as the wallpaper and not the one of her and Rachel if you back Chloe on big decisions. I'm an awful friend Just googled that and the requirements are hilarious. What a character in a video game chooses as a wallpaper for her phone is bottom of the barrel stuff, but it'd be a neat detail if your playthrough is going that way, not gonna lie. You apparently have to do at least three of these four things: 1 - say the weed was yours 2 - reject Kate's call 3 - (try to) shoot Frank 4 - steal the money I like Chloe, but she can gently caress right off on this one. Trying to shoot Frank is reasonable given the circumstances, but the rest? Holy poo poo.
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Aug 9, 2015 05:49
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I thought the money was a bribe described as something else, since I think it would be more official than a bunch of bills in a brown envelope. alternate universe Chloe not being able to go to school because of the effort taken to provide help for her made me think that too.
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Aug 9, 2015 05:57
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The money definitely turned out to be a front for something, Max says she wished she'd let Chloe steal it at one point.
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Aug 9, 2015 05:59
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Uh, actually it's the opposite: the money was/will be used to upgrade the dorms and Max says she's glad she didn't let Chloe steal it. Unless there are multiple versions of this...?
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Aug 9, 2015 06:01
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i took the money and there was a sign at the dorm that said WHEELCHAIR RAMP PROJECT and then it said POSTPONED INDEFINITELY or whatever and max said oh gently caress we took the wheelchair ramp money we are the worst
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Aug 9, 2015 06:03
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I honestly forget the journals too. I might do a replay to read those and the get all the pictures which I'm really loving bad at cause I only got two in Episode 4.seravid posted:Just googled that and the requirements are hilarious. What a character in a video game chooses as a wallpaper for her phone is bottom of the barrel stuff, but it'd be a neat detail if your playthrough is going that way, not gonna lie. You apparently have to do at least three of these four things: Even Chloe regrets getting mad at you for taking Kate's call, but I guess what you do in those events can be proof to Chloe that Max is back in her life again in willing to support her again. The worst one for me is stealing the money. Like, so far it hasn't had any repercussions, but at the time it feels like a big choice in making this minor trespassing offense into robbery, but for Chloe I guess that's a big thing on whether you're really her friend or not. Rachel Amber probably would've let Chloe take the money....
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Aug 9, 2015 06:05
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Maybe I remembered it wrong 
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Aug 9, 2015 06:09
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Sakurazuka posted:Maybe I remembered it wrong
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Aug 9, 2015 06:12
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Sakurazuka posted:Maybe I remembered it wrong Nah, if you don't steal the money, in the alternate universe Chloe's room there's a letter from the principal saying it's "impractical" for a disabled student like Chloe to be admitted to Blackwell, as well as that they weren't up to code for wheelchair access and never would be. Max says she wishes she had stolen the money because the principal is a piece of poo poo for not admitting Chloe to the school. Edit because I'm actually kind of disappointed in this. I'm doing a second playthrough and I readily stole the money assuming it was a front based on the letter I saw in my other save file, but they're really going to plop a "WELL NOW WE CAN'T GET HANDICAPPED RAMPS" sign to guilt me over the decision? That is kind of lovely.  double edit: VVV oh well poo poo I didn't even see that. Panzer Skank fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Aug 9, 2015 |
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Aug 9, 2015 06:13
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Here's the sign people who aren't dicks see at the entrance: So yeah, gently caress stealing the money - even if it was dirty - because gently caress giving it to Frank either. edit: ^^^^ this is a spoiler-free zone until ep5, go hog wild.
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Where can you even see Chloe's phone? I also totally did three of those things. But anyone who didn't take Kate's call is an rear end in a top hat.
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Aug 9, 2015 06:15
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