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Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

A coworker just posted this on FB...
Cyclotrons make stuff go faster obviously. Those coils on the floor must be the most important :v:


Happily he also posted the "after" pic:

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Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


poo poo not pissing me off: Two of my classes this upcoming semester are Unix; one Linux, one Solaris. :getin:

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Kazinsal posted:

poo poo not pissing me off: Two of my classes this upcoming semester are Unix; one Linux, one Solaris. :getin:

code:
killall firefox-bin
Wait, what system was I on?

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
After watching something alert for 3 hours, I think I just won the award for most passive aggressive response ever.

IT, we're getting alerts on this SQL server, please advise.
Operations, indeed we are. It'll be interesting to see if it fixes itself before you call the on call DBA.

All day I'm hustlin.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

wolrah posted:

code:
killall firefox-bin
Wait, what system was I on?

Stop it, you're triggering Nitrogen.

J
Jun 10, 2001

MC Fruit Stripe posted:


All day I'm hustlin.

How did megaman 3 end up going?

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

poo poo not pissing me off :

A couple days after i left my last job, the decision was made to cut all of the sysadmin team in the us and send the jobs to India. Talking to one of the hardware team, the monitoring queue has blown up to more than 10x the number of tickets we had on the worst day, and there are still over 100 alerts waiting to be addressed. It takes those guys over 3 days to handle an issue just to the point that the hardware/network team can do anything.

I really want to know what the run/maintain queue looks like, since even we struggled to stay on top of that.

:popcorn:

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
lol gently caress that place. I wish nothing but the worst on firms that think they're being so slick by outsourcing.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

skooma512 posted:

lol gently caress that place. I wish nothing but the worst on firms that think they're being so slick by outsourcing.

Apparently it isn't the first time they have done this and gotten hosed by it, so i am finding it hilarious

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

RFC2324 posted:

Apparently it isn't the first time they have done this and gotten hosed by it, so i am finding it hilarious

Seems like a pretty simple thought process. An exec or team of exec think of a way to cut costs to benefit themselves (raise, promotion, but at the lease bonuses) and implement outsourcing. Reap the benefits and when things go to poo poo either move on or make it someone else's problem.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Cutting costs via slashing payroll and making yourself look like a rockstar before jumping ship is pretty much MBA 101

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.

go3 posted:

Cutting costs via slashing payroll and making yourself look like a rockstar before jumping ship is pretty much MBA 101

I'd really like to know how loving things up, screwing employees, and torpedoing a company became accepted business practice and not grounds for an angry mob grabbing the offending party and throwing them on a burning pyre.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Daylen Drazzi posted:

I'd really like to know how loving things up, screwing employees, and torpedoing a company became accepted business practice and not grounds for an angry mob grabbing the offending party and throwing them on a burning pyre.

Since the stock market became the method at which most people measure economic performance.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

The Fool posted:

Since the stock market became the method at which most people measure economic performance.

More specifically since "long-term investing" meant "2 months."

Independence
Jul 12, 2006

The Wriggler
poo poo Pissing me off:

Verizon FIOS decided to add porn channels to my favorites for the second time in 2 weeks. They cannot be deleted.

It would be funny however I have a 6 year old who watches TV. My wife isn't amused.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Independence posted:

poo poo Pissing me off:

Verizon FIOS decided to add porn channels to my favorites for the second time in 2 weeks. They cannot be deleted.

It would be funny however I have a 6 year old who watches TV. My wife isn't amused.

Are you saying that you can't remove these porn channels specifically from your favorites or you can't remove them in general?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Independence posted:

poo poo Pissing me off:

Verizon FIOS decided to add porn channels to my favorites for the second time in 2 weeks. They cannot be deleted.

It would be funny however I have a 6 year old who watches TV. My wife isn't amused.

Does FIOS not have parental controls for the TV service?

mewse
May 2, 2006

It's a pretty common glitch on many major providers for porn channels you've definitely never watched to show up in your favorites when your wife and child are around

Independence
Jul 12, 2006

The Wriggler

Sickening posted:

Are you saying that you can't remove these porn channels specifically from your favorites or you can't remove them in general?

Nope. You remove them from favorites and they come right back. It took the Verizon rep about 20 minutes of resetting the box to get the Brazzers network off of favorites the first time.

Parental controls don't work. Porn and pay-per-view are blocked by parental controls and the channels still show up.

I have the internet for porn and other than sports events, I don't watch the TV at all.

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."
Good news is that these days, why would you PAY to watch them on your TV when you can watch something on the internet for free?

Seriously, this is a valid excuse for anyone who's getting accused of watching porno channels when they haven't.

Edit: Wait wait wait, you're telling me parental controls don't work on favoured channels? That's one hell of an oversight.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Independence posted:

poo poo Pissing me off:

Verizon FIOS decided to add porn channels to my favorites for the second time in 2 weeks. They cannot be deleted.

It would be funny however I have a 6 year old who watches TV. My wife isn't amused.

Maybe this is Verizon's way of one-upping their fellows at Comcast who were changing customer names on the invoices.

nitrogen
May 21, 2004

Oh, what's a 217°C difference between friends?

wolrah posted:

code:
killall firefox-bin
Wait, what system was I on?



EDIT: TOO LATE stubbyhead

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Co-workers with a 3rd grade writing level.

Can you tell me what each of the units on the catalog are associated too in our system.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
This is more of a general state-of-English-2015 complaint, but your post reminds me of a more general issue I've been having.

I do not answer questions that do not end in a question mark - otherwise those are statements.

What do you guys think
Do any of these look like questions
Would it kill me to put a question mark

Other emails I ignore completely at this point: emails directly to me. Unless it is a picture of your kid, a "did you see the game?", or a hilarious image macro, there is positively no reason for anyone to ever email me directly. Email my distro or I am not responding.

Lightning Jim
Nov 18, 2006

Just a mad weather-ologist :science:

Kazinsal posted:

poo poo not pissing me off: Two of my classes this upcoming semester are Unix; one Linux, one Solaris. :getin:

Awesome, that sounds...
:stonk:
To be fair, my experience is people using it to deploy solutions to people that know nothing about computers. Still better supported than SCO UNIX, at least from my experience.

QuiteEasilyDone
Jul 2, 2010

Won't you play with me?

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

This is more of a general state-of-English-2015 complaint, but your post reminds me of a more general issue I've been having.

I do not answer questions that do not end in a question mark - otherwise those are statements.

What do you guys think
Do any of these look like questions
Would it kill me to put a question mark

Other emails I ignore completely at this point: emails directly to me. Unless it is a picture of your kid, a "did you see the game?", or a hilarious image macro, there is positively no reason for anyone to ever email me directly. Email my distro or I am not responding.

Adding to this, each sentence ending with an question mark is a separate question that I expect to be addressed. You can't just pick and choose fuckers!

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Lightning Jim posted:

:stonk:
To be fair, my experience is people using it to deploy solutions to people that know nothing about computers. Still better supported than SCO UNIX, at least from my experience.

Oracle support as a whole is pretty poo poo, but Solaris support is far from bad within that framework. The only real issue is dealing with the hardware vs OS support, since if an error MIGHT indicate a hardware failure they will try to refuse to help any further til you provide a hardware contract number. The other issue I had was the 'we won't help til you patch your systems' but that was more of a problem with my company refusing to patch things.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

For more fun you can use HP-UX and HP's support site!

Cool story: Installed vim using their depot package installer/manager thing. Borked the server by filling up a couple partitions, the system was installed on one 36GB disk and I ended up installing like 6GB worth of extra poo poo or something. D'oh.

Bob Morales fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Aug 10, 2015

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
Is there any good reason to use Solaris or HP-UX over RHEL or whatever flavor of Linux you want? Do they provide any killer features you just can't get elsewhere?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Ynglaur posted:

Is there any good reason to use Solaris or HP-UX over RHEL or whatever flavor of Linux you want? Do they provide any killer features you just can't get elsewhere?

The only thing I can think of would be a binary package requirement or if you really have to use ZFS for something. There's still a lot of Enterprise Class software out there that don't have Linux versions yet. Granted, it's probably a dwindling list.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Ynglaur posted:

Is there any good reason to use Solaris or HP-UX over RHEL or whatever flavor of Linux you want? Do they provide any killer features you just can't get elsewhere?

If you are running Sun hardware, the integration with Solaris is just lovely. A single command will identify 9/10 hardware failures, and tell you exactly what you need to replace, and svm will tell you exactly what commands to run to fix an issue with your software raid.

I've also seen a couple tricks in network land for Solaris I have never seen done on a Linux box, but I haven't done enough high level networking with Linux to be able to say its a Solaris thing.

edit: \/\/\/\/ applies to Solaris as well.

RFC2324 fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Aug 10, 2015

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer

Ynglaur posted:

Is there any good reason to use Solaris or HP-UX over RHEL or whatever flavor of Linux you want? Do they provide any killer features you just can't get elsewhere?
Speaking of someone who knows the AIX/POWER environment, it generally provides more stability and better uptime than Linux on x86. There's a tight list of supported hardware and software configurations, which makes troubleshooting easier. So rather than your Linux machine crashing and you having to poke around to figure out why, your AIX machine is more likely to say "hey, I lost the fibre card in slot 2," and then chances are fair you'll be able to replace it without taking the system down.

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

Aunt Beth posted:

Speaking of someone who knows the AIX/POWER environment, it generally provides more stability and better uptime than Linux on x86. There's a tight list of supported hardware and software configurations, which makes troubleshooting easier. So rather than your Linux machine crashing and you having to poke around to figure out why, your AIX machine is more likely to say "hey, I lost the fibre card in slot 2," and then chances are fair you'll be able to replace it without taking the system down.

To be fair, Linux is also really good about saying "hey, I lost the fiber card in slot 2" if you read dmesg, and almost all x86 gear supports PCIe hotplugging. The crashy-ness is gone these days, and the uptime is really comparable to UNIX kit (from a software perspective -- the hardware lags, but that also applies to Solaris/x86).

Linux on POWER or AIX/POWER or anything SPARC/Itanium is far less likely to let you put in that janky repurposed RAID controller you picked up off eBay which is trying to wedge a BIOS Option ROM into a modern system, though.

From a "Linux on HP/Dell/IBM/Oracle server-class hardware" to "Solaris on x86 server-class hardware" perspective, they're similar for reliability and usability.

Solaris and AIX win big in vendor support, though. You will never get me on the phone with a customer, but we routinely got IBM engineers on troubleshooting calls, and IBM/Oracle/HP will make sure that your application written for Solaris 8 will still compile and run without any code changes in a zone (or outside of one if you're lucky) on modern hardware.

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer

evol262 posted:

To be fair, Linux is also really good about saying "hey, I lost the fiber card in slot 2" if you read dmesg, and almost all x86 gear supports PCIe hotplugging.
Well whaddaya know! I learned A Thing today.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


HP-UX/AIX/Solaris don't exactly appear to be growing platforms, at least that was my limited experience and everything was in maintenance mode.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Other emails I ignore completely at this point: emails directly to me. Unless it is a picture of your kid, a "did you see the game?", or a hilarious image macro, there is positively no reason for anyone to ever email me directly. Email my distro or I am not responding.

I really, really want to adopt this.

My boss will get emails from other employees around here asking him for help with various support things. He has never, in my memory, fixed anything, so I don't know why they ever email him, but that's beside the point. He will, in turn, forward me - his de jure "Help Desk Manager," aka not your T1 "I need help installing BonziBuddy" guy - those emails and tell me to take care of it, with the original sender CC'd. Friday I was out sick, and someone emailed him something dumb, and instead of sending it to our inbox he emailed me like he always does.

We have a freaking shared inbox that me and the two technicians I supervise all watch more closely than our personal inboxes.

Reminds me I need to tell him to stop doing that later this afternoon. :argh:

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

Bob Morales posted:

Co-workers with a 3rd grade writing level.

Can you tell me what each of the units on the catalog are associated too in our system.

Excuse me, I think you mean "ARE system." :colbert:

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Solaris released version 11 not all that long ago, and it has some significant improvements over 10.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Ynglaur posted:

Is there any good reason to use Solaris or HP-UX over RHEL or whatever flavor of Linux you want? Do they provide any killer features you just can't get elsewhere?

Because you're running some software that your internal IT staff slowly cobbled together since the 1980's and even though you're spending hundreds of thousands on it a year and the software limits your business in a thousand ways you are determined to stick with it.

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beepsandboops
Jan 28, 2014

Bob Morales posted:

Co-workers with a 3rd grade writing level.

Can you tell me what each of the units on the catalog are associated too in our system.
At my current gig this seems to get worse the higher up you go. Our CIO's emails make him look borderline-illiterate, and our CEO's messages are basically incomprehensible.

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