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Cozz posted:Because it's going to make Toei lots of money no matter how much effort they put into it? Yeah that's actually true. I don't know why I forgot that after seeing the poo poo they pull with other shows I like. Toei has never given a poo poo about quality, should've known that after seeing what happened with DBZ and what happened with One Piece during the later years. Asuron fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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I hope funimation goes full theatrical and DBZ crushes fantastic four in the box office.
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Aug 10, 2015 05:03
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Stairmaster posted:I hope funimation goes full theatrical and DBZ crushes fantastic four in the box office. No one is going to see Fantastic Four. DBZ has already won this gambit.
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dragonball super has a higher "budget" than dragonball z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD18bzL3sJM this guy was the animation director for episode 5. he's one of toei's older and better action animators, and animated a ton of fight scenes from the original dragonball z (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybiFm958WV0) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTsLhkL9bTc this guy guest animated on it (he doesnt work for toei, and he's primarily a robot animator) and it looks like crap its amazing how bad scheduling can wreck a show, huh? aers fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Aug 10, 2015 08:39
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I've watched the original run of Dragonball back in the 80s and I am pretty disappointed in how Super is animated and colored. It feels rushed and cheap. Like a flash animation. I'll still watch the series and get it on Bluray when it's out though. Bonus Yamcha sucks so much they made a toy figure of him dead. 
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Aug 10, 2015 08:58
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Whoops forget to attach this in my previous post.
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Aug 10, 2015 08:59
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Honestly i really love the bright colorful pallet of super.
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Aug 10, 2015 09:21
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Let's be fair Dragon Ball has had like, what, 20 different studios work on it during its time? Something like that? A lot of them did some subpar work.
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Aug 10, 2015 09:32
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Anything this bad?
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Aug 10, 2015 09:34
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In It For The Tank posted:Anything this bad? Holy poo poo that was looks like it was sketched on an iPad.
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Aug 10, 2015 09:44
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In It For The Tank posted:Anything this bad? I mean there was the Metal Cooler movie, so... yeah. Things would get pretty bad, even when there was more budget to throw around. Maybe it's faulty memory or exhaustion but I'm pretty sure there are even some GT scenes that look even worse than that. Always been quite a grab-bag in terms of animation quality. Hell, compare that to previous episodes within Super, like, say, Vegeta's Family Vacation episode. 's Dragon Ball, man. This joke,  existed for a reason.
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Aug 10, 2015 09:54
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In between frames never existed before the 2000s, and even if they did they were perfecccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccct Don't get me wrong, I get bummed out by sloppy art as much as the next guy, but it's not worth getting that flustered over. I honestly wasn't impressed by the choreography/action animation in Revival of F, but it was still a fun movie. Would have been better if it was more like BoG, though.
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Aug 10, 2015 10:12
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Even ignoring the individual cells of artwork that Goku vs Beerus fight had all the dynamism and fluidity of Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes, it honestly does look worse than it's twenty year old predecessor. This whole show has felt incredibly phoned in and rushed, the slice of life episodes have been incredibly dull too and nearly devoid of jokes and the pacing is glacial, I think I'm done with it
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A Steampunk Gent posted:Even ignoring the individual cells of artwork that Goku vs Beerus fight had all the dynamism and fluidity of Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes, it honestly does look worse than it's twenty year old predecessor. This whole show has felt incredibly phoned in and rushed, the slice of life episodes have been incredibly dull too and nearly devoid of jokes and the pacing is glacial, I think I'm done with it Does that mean you'll stop bitching?
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Testekill posted:Does that mean you'll stop bitching? If your love of DBZ is pure, I'm sure it can withstand someone saying a mean thing about it. But as I don't intend to watch any more of it, I expect my complaints will be fewer, yes
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Are we doing this? Because my favorite is this one: It rests on this frame for like a solid minute and it's not even an action scene yet. What do I win? Mordaedil fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Aug 10, 2015 10:47
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I want that as a DLC quest on Xenoverse right now.
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Aug 10, 2015 10:49
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A Steampunk Gent posted:Even ignoring the individual cells of artwork that Goku vs Beerus fight had all the dynamism and fluidity of Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes, it honestly does look worse than it's twenty year old predecessor. This whole show has felt incredibly phoned in and rushed, the slice of life episodes have been incredibly dull too and nearly devoid of jokes and the pacing is glacial, I think I'm done with it You made me go look up who actually directed episode 5 and lol its Iwai, he's boring and terrible. I dunno what he's even doing on Super, the schedule must be mega tight for him to even have time, since he's still actively working on the show he mainly works on (Precure).
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Aug 10, 2015 10:50
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 Yeah DBZ had some shocking animation, I don't think anyone would disagree, but in a new series with a bigger budget it shouldn't be this awful so early on. A frame here or there is excusable and understandable even, mistakes happen. That image is the type of stuff that was happening for most of the episode and it's not excusable at all.
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Aug 10, 2015 11:07
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Is it wishful thinking that the animation was so bad because they already did this fight in the movie and don't want to put forth the effort a second time?
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Aug 10, 2015 11:10
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At the end of the day I enjoyed the episode despite the animation. A Gurren Lagann episode 4, if you will.
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Aug 10, 2015 11:16
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Asuron posted:
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Aug 10, 2015 11:22
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So why didn't they just cut up the movies into episodes and add some new footage for padding, seems like that would have been the more sensible route for this than doing it from scratch
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Aug 10, 2015 11:50
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Because TV is advertisement for bluray releases, this is how they get their moneys back.
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Aug 10, 2015 11:53
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drrockso20 posted:So why didn't they just cut up the movies into episodes and add some new footage for padding, seems like that would have been the more sensible route for this than doing it from scratch Why would anyone go buy BoG on DVD/BD if they're broadcasting it in chunks on TV for free? RoF's Super run will be the same deal, of course.
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The same reason anyone would buy any movie that gets aired on tv years after its theatrical run, I reckon.
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Aug 10, 2015 12:11
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Example of what they do to make money:
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Mordaedil posted:Example of what they do to make money:  That doesn't even look like the same series.
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Yeah, that cheap 3D was really jarring to watch through for the broadcast version. Bluray, man.
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Mordaedil posted:Example of what they do to make money: I- what- huh?!
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Mordaedil posted:Example of what they do to make money: WTF is this about? Educate me please.
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Bushmaori posted:WTF is this about? Educate me please. The only reason to read Kotaku is for funny dumb poo poo like this, quite honestly: http://kotaku.com/you-wont-believe-how-different-this-tv-anime-looks-1663102684
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Aurain posted:That title is so clickbaity that it actually hurts. It also for once, accurate; that is an absurd difference in quality
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Daytime shows aren't based around BD sales, with a few exceptions they sell like crap And nighttime show "buy the bd" stuff is generally censored boobs, they don't intentionally make it look like poo poo, anime production is just that broken
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In It For The Tank posted:Anything this bad? I feel the series would be improved if Beerus had that face all the time.
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aers posted:Daytime shows aren't based around BD sales, with a few exceptions they sell like crap Normally I'd agree with you but Toei pulled this with Sailormoon Crystal too , it's annoying as hell.
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I can't believe they let Brad Neely work on Dragon Ball Super! 
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Have people seriously never seen a low-budget episode of an anime before?  I mean it isn't a good looking episode but the "The ORIGINAL never did this" stuff or the laughable argument "this is modern, ergo it has a bigger budget" is sort of bewildering.Shards of Fate posted:Whoops forget to attach this in my previous post. I mean poo poo like this is straight-up ridiculous. If you wanted to compare the bottom you'd compare it to  instead.
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