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If you don't watch that last ATE, can you get that chest Marcus opens up in the background?
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Mega64 posted:
Another example - X-2 opens with Yuna disguised in a moogle suit, and it's the costume for her Mascot dressphere.
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Aug 9, 2015 22:14
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You know, in all the years I've played this game, I don't think I've ever been to the Industrial District. You're never required to go there.
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Aug 9, 2015 23:30
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Dastardly posted:I like that they bothered animating the clock machinery and making it chime just so Garnet could tell us that her ATE takes place at the same time as Zidane visits the hideout. I love this, I love everything in Lindblum.
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Aug 9, 2015 23:44
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MelvinBison posted:If you don't watch that last ATE, can you get that chest Marcus opens up in the background? Yes, but you miss out on a very important key item later, because technically Cinna never tries to make the coffee.
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Aug 9, 2015 23:55
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kalonZombie posted:Yes, but you miss out on a very important key item later, because technically Cinna never tries to make the coffee. And any outcome that leads to less coffee is a Bad Outcome.  Lindblum is usually where my desire to keep replaying the game tanks, though. There's just so goddamn much to do and see, and it makes me realize how much longer the game is, and crap, I like watching the ATEs, but I think I've already spent enough time to lock myself out of Excalibur II, and....
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Aug 10, 2015 00:25
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Edward_Tohr posted:but I think I've already spent enough time to lock myself out of Excalibur II, and.... Psst. That's why you Gameshark it in later. gently caress this "12 hour time limit" bullshit, the person who made that hates everyone and everything that is good. Otherwise they wouldn't have forced people to rush through and ignore this lively game, all for equipment for just one character.
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Aug 10, 2015 00:29
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Or just... ignore it? I've never really gotten the anger about the Excal 2; it's an optional challenge for once you've played the game a ton of times.
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Aug 10, 2015 00:37
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Kyrosiris posted:Or just... ignore it? I've never really gotten the anger about the Excal 2; it's an optional challenge for once you've played the game a ton of times. It's basically the sort of bragging rights award that's meant to appeal to completionists. In order to get it, you have to completely ignore every instinct towards completionism you might have. Basically it inspires anger because its target audience is people who will never actually get it, but it existing at all nags at the same mentalities that would make them the target audience to start with. The game's taunting them.
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Aug 10, 2015 00:41
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I think we can all agree it's like the Sword of Kings on the whole "ooh fun, decently strong, but also useless, and also way too much work" thing.
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Aug 10, 2015 01:21
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Gnoman posted:Another example - X-2 opens with Yuna disguised in a moogle suit, and it's the costume for her Mascot dressphere. Was going to post this. Have a picture! Pictured left to right: Paine, Yuna, Rikku. 
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Aug 10, 2015 01:24
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Sum Mors posted:Was going to post this. Have a picture! Pictured left to right: Paine, Yuna, Rikku. That Cait Sith has seen some serious poo poo, man.
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Aug 10, 2015 02:20
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MelvinBison posted:If you don't watch that last ATE, can you get that chest Marcus opens up in the background? kalonZombie posted:Yes, but you miss out on a very important key item later, because technically Cinna never tries to make the coffee. You can definitely get the key item without watching it. There's only one way to miss out on it, and that's way farther down the road. Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Aug 10, 2015 03:07
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McStephenson posted:I think we can all agree it's like the Sword of Kings on the whole "ooh fun, decently strong, but also useless, and also way too much work" thing. The Sword of Kings is one of the story ones. It's either the Tournesol or Wyrmhero Blade blade you're thinking of. The Tournesol is a pain in the rear end to make, its ingredients a combination of rare steals and/or monograph drops that's hard as poo poo to even keep straight and harder yet to get without how the bazaar system consumes items messing you up. The Wyrmhero Blade is the one you have to beat bonus bosses and the obscure fishing minigame to get. Funfact: It's the sword from Dragon Quest 1.  This one.  Here it is in FFXII.  And in the credits of DQ2. Why am I posting FFXII trivia again? I guess because it'll take a while before I can prepare another level one update.
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Aug 10, 2015 03:47
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:The Sword of Kings is one of the story ones. It's either the Tournesol or Wyrmhero Blade blade you're thinking of. I may be having a moment of stupidity, but I think you've missed an Earthbound reference.
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Aug 10, 2015 04:16
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SonicRulez posted:I may be having a moment of stupidity, but I think you've missed an Earthbound reference. That sword is a 1/128 drop that's available for a limited time. A simple dice roll, though one not really in your favor.
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Aug 10, 2015 04:34
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:That sword is a 1/128 drop that's available for a limited time. A simple dice roll, though one not really in your favor. It's also much easier to actually get without having to step-by-step follow a "perfect"* guide, it just requires the player to take advantage of an exploit in the combat system. *Perfect in everything but grammar, from what I'm seeing. FAQer needs to get their rear end back to a remedial English course.
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Aug 10, 2015 05:00
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Sum Mors posted:Was going to post this. Have a picture! Pictured left to right: Paine, Yuna, Rikku. I still love how each of them is carrying one of Lulu's dolls from FFX for even more reference fun (you can't see it very well in the pic, but Paine is carrying a Cactuar doll). Shame none of them had the Onion Knight.
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Aug 10, 2015 06:19
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Have the Moombas been featured in any other game than 8? Pupu too. Weird that they had staying power despite only being in 1 game, while other references have carried over from several games. E: Looked it up. Yup, FF8 only. Sum Mors fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Aug 10, 2015 06:45
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:That sword is a 1/128 drop that's available for a limited time. A simple dice roll, though one not really in your favor. It's also a piece of poo poo not worth getting. Sum Mors posted:Was going to post this. Have a picture! Pictured left to right: Paine, Yuna, Rikku. That Cait Sith is goddamned terrifying. 
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Aug 10, 2015 06:57
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CmdrKing posted:It's basically the sort of bragging rights award that's meant to appeal to completionists. In order to get it, you have to completely ignore every instinct towards completionism you might have. Final Fantasy has been spiting completionists for a while now and I'm perfectly okay with that. Zodiac Spear was a joke weapon guys, a joke on us.
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Aug 10, 2015 08:22
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:That sword is a 1/128 drop that's available for a limited time. A simple dice roll, though one not really in your favor. There's also the damnedable Casey Bat from those damned Krackens near the end of a story mandated area where you only have Ness, near the end of the game. And if you grind too much on THEM, you don't get those delicious bonus stats/levels for just going through it. BioMe posted:Zodiac Spear was a joke weapon guys, a joke on us. At least you can get it for free, unlike the Wyrmhero and Tournesol, which is a pain to get and people figured it out quickly to get it without much work. gently caress, you could get it even before you're supposed to go to the area it's in...just gotta avoid ALL THE HIGH LEVEL MONSTERS that will likely one-shot whoever they hit.
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Aug 10, 2015 08:29
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Kemix posted:There's also the damnedable Casey Bat from those damned Krackens near the end of a story mandated area where you only have Ness, near the end of the game. And if you grind too much on THEM, you don't get those delicious bonus stats/levels for just going through it.  E: I'm probably coming off as hostile at this point because I'm bored out of my mind with nothing much better to do than nitpick a post on the internet, but while I'm at it even grinding for a 1/128 solo would be pretty unlikely to cap your level. AlphaKretin fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Aug 10, 2015 08:35
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Sum Mors posted:Was going to post this. Have a picture! Pictured left to right: Paine, Yuna, Rikku. Cait Sith looks a little like Roast Beef from Achewood there. 
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Aug 10, 2015 08:50
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BioMe posted:Final Fantasy has been spiting completionists for a while now and I'm perfectly okay with that. Honestly I don't rage at the Zodiac Spear as much as I do the 99x Warp Spheres from FFX's Omega Ruins. At least if you know what you're doing the Zodiac Spear can be gotten reliably.
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Aug 10, 2015 16:16
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Why am I posting FFXII trivia again? I guess because it'll take a while before I can prepare another level one update. So, Final Fantasy 7, Final Fantasy 9 and your own LP. How much other work are you doing right now?
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Aug 10, 2015 16:21
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Kemix posted:There's also the damnedable Casey Bat from those damned Krackens near the end of a story mandated area where you only have Ness, near the end of the game. And if you grind too much on THEM, you don't get those delicious bonus stats/levels for just going through it. Um. The guide lied to you. The Krakens in the Sea of Eden are the same as the story boss. They don't have item drops.
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Aug 10, 2015 16:28
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Um. Hah, yeah I remember that bit from an LP about the game. If I remember right, the OP was quite surprised when this came out. Hours of useless grindng. 
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Aug 10, 2015 16:44
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Okay, that scene with Lowell added absolutely nothing but was some amazing comedy. And it's like, this is it. Everybody in Lindblum has a story and here's a tiny part of one. Also, the kids running freely in and out of the Tantalus base adds some credence to the whole "state-sponsored lovable rogues" theory.
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Aug 10, 2015 19:25
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Got some more gameplay time in. By my estimates, we'll leave Lindblum in three more updates or so. Next update will be actual story stuff, after that is Festival of the Hunt, and then the following will be shopping/catching up with NPCs post-Hunt.
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Aug 10, 2015 21:26
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 I just found this 2 days ago after I started yet another playthrough thanks to this LP. I was hoping you'd show it.
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Aug 10, 2015 21:59
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Mega64 posted:Got some more gameplay time in. By my estimates, we'll leave Lindblum in three more updates or so. Next update will be actual story stuff, after that is Festival of the Hunt, and then the following will be shopping/catching up with NPCs post-Hunt. You gonna show off all the scenes Of when Freya/Zidane/Vivi wins and when nobody of the party wins? Or just gonna go with the one scene of who you want to win?
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Aug 10, 2015 22:13
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Kemix posted:You gonna show off all the scenes Of when Freya/Zidane/Vivi wins and when nobody of the party wins? Or just gonna go with the one scene of who you want to win? The latter because I'm lazy and don't feel like going through multiple twelve-minute attempts for minor dialogue changes.
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Aug 10, 2015 22:34
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Kemix posted:You gonna show off all the scenes Of when Freya/Zidane/Vivi wins and when nobody of the party wins? Or just gonna go with the one scene of who you want to win? It's impossible for nobody in your party to win. If Zidane dies then Freya wins, if they both lose to the Zaghnol then Vivi wins. There's no way to stop Vivi from scoring his points
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Aug 10, 2015 22:43
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If you drop when the current 1st place person listed says someone other than Zidane, Freya or Vivi then that person wins IIRC. I may not, since I haven't played IX in forever but I think that's how it works anyway.
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Aug 10, 2015 22:56
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Mega64 posted:Got some more gameplay time in. By my estimates, we'll leave Lindblum in three more updates or so. Next update will be actual story stuff, after that is Festival of the Hunt, and then the following will be shopping/catching up with NPCs post-Hunt.  I've played through this game 4 times. How have I never seen this?
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Aug 10, 2015 23:43
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MelvinBison posted:
I'm on Disk 2 already and I thought I talked to everyone I could! God drat! Everyone's finding poo poo that normally would have been found years ago! Like the Nero Brothers Sidequest on Disk 4, fucker went unfound for about 12 freaking years!
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Aug 11, 2015 00:47
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   We're finally going to do some proper plot stuff this update. We're back at the castle.    Yeah! I heard there was a really cute girl onboard. We can't go on the elevator, so instead we're stuck going up the stairs.  This is important and you probably already know why.    Whoa, take it easy. I just got here. The princess is gone! She was supposed to stay in this room. Maybe she went out for a little walk. How can you be so calm!? This is a very serious matter! Have you forgotten all the danger she faced just to get here!? What if something terrible happens to her!?  Steiner's being Steiner, as usual.  Nothing to do but go back out.    That sweet voice... It's Dagger. She's upstairs.You might want to click that Tindeck link if the sirens haven't already tipped you off.  Maybe if I disguised myself as a guard, he'll let me through.You already know what's going to happen.   I just saw a suspicious character wandering around!"He was decked out in rusty armor and kept screaming 'PRINCESS!' at the top of his lungs."  WHAT!? Wh-Where!? Upstairs. Follow me.    Can't ignore the classics.  Apparently the Sleepy Soldier is pretty popular among the guards here.   If you try to leave...    As we go up the lift...  ...Zidane decides to ditch his disguise. At least you could have Locke save the day as some random-rear end merchant in his scenario.    Whew... That was close.You see, it's only OK to sleep on duty when you wear the less-goofy armor.  No backtracking.   Oh yeah. I saw her go upstairs just a while ago. Our trek leads us to the roof of the castle.   Only one place now that Dagger can be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi4FiXsnRTI     Indeed, Dagger has quite the captive audience for her performance. [Insert your own Drakengard 3 joke here]   This is also the first instance where the game itself suggests there may be a spark between these two.  Zidane's face scares the birds away. WIND NOISES   How did you get up here? This is a restricted area. Come on, I do this for a living. ...Oh yeah. You're a member of Tantalus. It must've been easy for you.  Whew... What a view... Come on. There's six places to check out. Most of these are locations we'll be visiting when we eventually leave Lindblum.  Maybe I should check it out sometime.The Marshland is one of two optional areas to explore, and both of them you should really visit ASAP, but especially this place.  I guess the best way to get there is through the cavern at the base.There doesn't seem to be an airship gate connecting Burmecia and Lindblum. North Gate connects Burmecia and Alexandria, and we already know from blowing it up that South Gate connects Alexandria and Lindblum. Kind of a weird thing considering Lindblum's the nation with a large airship fleet and all.  It'll probably take a while to fix everything.I assume airships can't fly over mountains because there's no Mist in the higher altitudes. Then again, all the major nations are high above the Mist anyway and airships work just fine. The reason is probably because the peoples of this game refuse to undergo non-gate travel.  I bet they're looking for us. Maybe I can catch a chocobo in that forest.There's the other optional area we really want to visit when we get a chance.  You can get to the gate by walking along the river.The river's not important, it's just a landmark.  "I want to stare at the ugly swamp."   (Uncle Cid knew everything... That's why he asked Tantalus to get me out of Alexandria. No matter how hard I try, I'm always a step behind in everything...) Dagger is realizing that she's nothing more than a pawn. All the agency she thought she had was nothing more than others guiding her. Just look at how Steiner treats her. Really, the only person that's been encouraging her to do her own thing is Zidane. She's selling her accomplishments so far a bit short, but it's totally understandable how frustrated and powerless she feels right now, while her own mother might be starting a major war.   Why did you help me come here-to Lindblum? ...Is it because your boss ordered you to? I just wanted to help you. That's all.Zidane, of course, has a good heart behind his cocksure demeanour. He's genuinely looking out for Dagger and Vivi's best interests, and despite his bluster he always tries to do the right thing. The boss didn't agree with me...so I ended up leaving the band. Really!? I'm sorry. I also like how Zidane leaving Tantalus is something that happens semi-regularly.  Yeah? Oh...um... How were you planning to abduct me? We were gonna put you to sleep with sleeping weed, then kidnap you. It's mostly used for kids, but a big dose can knock out an adult just as easily. I guess you didn't need it, since I came along on my own. I've had a hard time sleeping lately.  Heh, heh. Can't blame me for trying. U-Um... Th-That song... Were you singing it in the Village of Dali? ...Yes. So, you were up that night... What is that song, anyway? I sing it whenever I feel sad or lonely... For some reason, it comforts me and reminds me that I'm not alone.  -----   Remember the armor Zidane made fun of two updates ago? Of course Steiner is a fan. Steiner also apparently forgot he was looking for the princess but whatever.   Who knows when that Brahne will start another war... You dare speak ill of the queen!? Who the hell are you? Oh. Well, in that case, can you recommend some good armor? I...I must go! While Dagger sings, the other party members go through some stuff. Steiner is starting to contend with the possibility that perhaps the Queen and kingdom he holds up to his highest regards of nobility may not be so noble after all. But since this is Steiner, the thought hasn't really sunk in yet so instead he just yells at people who say bad things about Alexandria.    They look so stupid. I'm gonna take Cid's airships and destroy them.  I'm gonna go tell your mom!!! No, come on!!!   Those black mages were like toys...being controlled by someone...Vivi's still got his identity crisis to contend with, though at this point he's more curious about the other black mages and whether perhaps they have the sentience he does.   Something's about to happen. Sir Fratley, where are you...? I need you... And Freya laments about her lost love. Hey, we've only seen her for a minute so far, of course her hook's not gonna be as big right now.   It should work now. What!? We can't stabilize the engine system. It can't run for more than 10 minutes. Darn it... ----- WIND NOISES   What are you talking about? ...!? Oh, Zidane.  Wait. I-I can explain. Go have a wonderful time. Ahahahahahaha  Zidane goes for Plan B: Threaten suicide.  How does that have anything to do with me? Zidane fell off the cliff.   Okay, it's a date!  Uh, you have to actually win first, Zidane. Next time, the Festival of the Hunt! It's been three updates since our last battle!
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I like their relationship. Zidane is obviously a lot more forward about, but it's pretty obvious that there's a mutual attraction there. For as much as Zidane flirts with her, Garnet flirts back on several occasions.
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Mega64 posted:
Zidane; actor, thief, eternal poonhound. Nice little response from Garnet too; she's been raised somewhat sheltered, but she's not an idiot. Like how quickly she cottons on to the fact he's been chatting up other women. First time I've actually seen these little action figurines in viewable detail - playing the game on my old TV made them a blurry mess that blended into the background.
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