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i installed i3 and it seems alright
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i want something that does what slate does on osx -- just a set of keybindings for arranging your windows into tiles that works over your existing WM. Does gnome have anything like that?
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Aug 10, 2015 23:18
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i want something that does what slate does on osx -- just a set of keybindings for arranging your windows into tiles that works over your existing WM. I'm pretty sure xmonad can do that
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Aug 10, 2015 23:40
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pram posted:i use multiple tabs in Terminal.app on Apple Operating System X 10.10.4 Yosemite same
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Aug 11, 2015 00:00
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pram posted:i use multiple tabs in Terminal.app on Apple Operating System X 10.10.4 Yosemite same
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Aug 11, 2015 00:18
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back when i used to use the bad os, windows, i bought secureCRT for the tabs because putty's tab thing was dumb+bad but now on osx, a good os, its just built in. thanks osx team and glorious leader timb cook
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Aug 11, 2015 00:19
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Soricidus posted:i've finally had to use windows 8 (well, technically 2012) and the experience has convinced me that neither gnome3 nor unity is the worst possible desktop user interface i'm running both 8.1 and 10 on different machines and although 10 finally dumped the tiled start menu for the desktop i'm doing that already in 8 with start8, and there's nothing else i find compelling about 10. so install that or classic shell (which is not quite as nice but is free) is my recommendation.
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Aug 11, 2015 01:54
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i3 is good poo poo. also gently caress installing linux on macbooks
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Aug 11, 2015 07:20
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macbooks are almost* the perfect linux laptop *the exception is the lovely broadcom wireless. but that sucks equally bad under osx. it's more of a general lol apple problem than a linux problem
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Aug 11, 2015 07:57
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Aug 11, 2015 08:03
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i wanted this to be true so badly when this ad was published then i actually got an osx system for myself. that lasted about a month. n
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Aug 11, 2015 08:09
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Is a tiling window manager the best bet for minimizing the use of a mouse? wm was pretty nice with all atk apps but it didn't minimize the use of the mouse; it actually required three buttons, between using the left and right for scrolling (like the Xerox UIs) and using the middle to pop up the menu cards having consistent UI widgets in every app and full interop with copy & paste, object embedding, and so on was pretty sweet too too bad X had to come along and ruin everything
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Aug 11, 2015 10:16
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Powerbook G4 was probably the best laptop you could do work on back in the day. You had to install Lunix on it, obviously, but then it was really good.
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Aug 11, 2015 10:35
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oh hey, virtualbox on linux now uses kvm as it's backend. kinda neat.
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Aug 11, 2015 11:17
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:macbooks are almost* the perfect linux laptop There are a few more problems than that but the cool part is there are only a handful of models each year so there are a ton of workarounds to everything.
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Aug 11, 2015 14:11
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lol @ broadcom
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Aug 11, 2015 14:14
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So I was thinking if I was going to use a tiling window manager I would try arch. The entire point of grub2 was to make it easier for the distribution to handle configuring the boot loader for you. Also, in the name of freedom of choice Arch does not include wpa_supplicant in their base system. I was sufficiently annoyed at the distro of sperg that I installed ubuntu w/ a tiling window manager.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:48
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SYSV Fanfic posted:So I was thinking if I was going to use a tiling window manager I would try arch. The entire point of grub2 was to make it easier for the distribution to handle configuring the boot loader for you. Also, in the name of freedom of choice Arch does not include wpa_supplicant in their base system. I was sufficiently annoyed at the distro of sperg that I installed ubuntu w/ a tiling window manager. source ur quotes (what the gently caress do tiling window managers have to do with grub2 and what the gently caress does grub2 have to do with arch in particular this sounds like the rantings of a crazy person except with fewer randomly capitalized words)
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Aug 11, 2015 17:55
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tiling window managers only seem cool on a theoretical level. in practice and reality theyre hot steaming poo poo for retarded autists. hth
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Aug 11, 2015 18:00
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pram posted:tiling window managers only seem cool on a theoretical level. in practice and reality theyre hot steaming poo poo for retarded autists. hth that's why Symbolics switched away from tiling pretty quickly, even if most of their users still chose to tile rather than overlap their windows
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Aug 11, 2015 18:32
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Mr Dog posted:source ur quotes I was incoherently saying that arch is an especially POS OS IMHO.
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Aug 11, 2015 18:32
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eschaton posted:that's why Symbolics switched away from tiling pretty quickly, even if most of their users still chose to tile rather than overlap their windows a reasonable, but pointless choice symbolics made. the correlation between lisp and autism is probably beyond 100%
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Aug 11, 2015 18:34
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pram posted:tiling window managers only seem cool on a theoretical level. in practice and reality theyre hot steaming poo poo for retarded autists. hth tiling window managers are insanely productive, it's just that it's soooooooooooo hardddddddddddddd for your average retard to learn 4 or 5 keyboard shortcuts, hence dragging window borders around like a caveman (and then all the drag-to-snap hacks built on top of that) if "being good at using a computer" makes me a "retarded autist" ... lol at least it pays well
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Aug 11, 2015 18:39
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are you seriously equating the ability to use a tiling window manager with 'being good at using a computer'
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Aug 11, 2015 18:40
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heh, at least investing hours of work hand curating my linux desktop experience pays well 
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Aug 11, 2015 18:43
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SYSV Fanfic posted:I was incoherently saying that arch is an especially POS OS IMHO. Arch is cool and good If you're using UEFI then run "bootctl install" as root and then create a four-line config file in /boot/loader/entries. If you don't like writing config files by hand then Arch isn't for you i guess, but then most Linux installers are "Partition your disk and run your package manager, except using a bunch of crippled one-off tools that are pointlessly different to the ones you normally use to perform this task for some reason". If you're motherboard doesn't have a UEFI firmware in anno domini 2015 then lol what the gently caress are you even doing (installing grub2, i suppose)
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Aug 11, 2015 18:43
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well i would consider efficient use of my time 'being good at computers' ya but i guess you're right if learning a handful of keyboard shortcuts for you entails 'investing hours of work hand curating your linux desktop experience', you should probably stick to your mac
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Aug 11, 2015 18:55
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very nice and impressive. do you put that on your resume
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Aug 11, 2015 18:59
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Skills: master of obscure tiling window manager on esoteric linux distribution. unparalleled efficiency at switching applications w/ keyboard shortcuts
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Aug 11, 2015 19:00
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Arch is terrible and bad because it is a rolling release distro that tries to use the absolute latest version of everything, aggressively deletes old packages from mirrors, and does not support having packages installed from different snapshots of the repositories. This means that every time you want to install or update something you have to do a full-system update which is basically playing russian roulette with untested system software, and if it goes wrong you're unlikely to be able to roll it back.
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Aug 11, 2015 19:03
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Ralith posted:Arch is terrible and bad occams razor
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Ralith posted:Arch is terrible and bad because it is a rolling release distro that tries to use the absolute latest version of everything, aggressively deletes old packages from mirrors, and does not support having packages installed from different snapshots of the repositories. This means that every time you want to install or update something you have to do a full-system update which is basically playing russian roulette with untested system software, and if it goes wrong you're unlikely to be able to roll it back. Sounds cool. You get to gently caress around with your computer instead of working. Epic.
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Aug 11, 2015 19:17
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I have to talk, sell, read, write, etc at work. I would much rather trawl linux forums for cj solutions. Much more enjoyable.
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Aug 11, 2015 19:18
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yea but this basically happens with mobile phone app stores anyway. everything constantly updating and changing its ui in horrible ways with no warning. pretend i went to txtn.us/text-fullwidth and typed ALL HAIL THE NEW FLESH there and pasted the result into this post xdg-app will probably make things a bit less painful for linux desktop apps, who knows maybe we'll even see some commercial software making use of it. it's actually a pretty well-thought-out and resource-efficient piece of software that's a sandboxed app store without the actual app store part.
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Mr Dog posted:yea but this basically happens with mobile phone app stores anyway. everything constantly updating and changing its ui in horrible ways with no warning. pretend i went to txtn.us/text-fullwidth and typed ALL HAIL THE NEW FLESH there and pasted the result into this post lol, just enable japanese input and switch it to full-width latin input, it's not hard unless you're on linux in which case it might be hard because they keep deprecating all the input methods and rewriting the entire subsystem from scratch every couple of years, just like everything else
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last time i had to do anything to my arch laptop that required any effort was the move to systemd, that was in what 2012? though arch is mostly good in comparison to the half arsed way most of the conventional release distros to releases.
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i just assume tiling window manager users are coming from the same place as vinyl record listeners
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so loving future posted:tiling window managers are insanely productive, it's just that it's soooooooooooo hardddddddddddddd for your average retard to learn 4 or 5 keyboard shortcuts, hence dragging window borders around like a caveman (and then all the drag-to-snap hacks built on top of that) productive at moving windows around lol
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tiling managers would probably be cool and good if poo poo was designed ground up to use them in reality there are lots of times and places where what you really want is a modal window or a genuine honest to god mdi, and tiling window managers vary only in how badly they fail to support those corner cases
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Tmux session in a full screen terminal emulator works great. Thanks to whoever put that suggestion out there.
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