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Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

i start in 3 weeks and looked up my manager on linkedin, the only guy in the city with that name currently works at this companies big rival

# ? Aug 12, 2015 14:52

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# ? May 13, 2024 07:32

Jerry Bindle: May 16, 2003

Valeyard posted:

i start in 3 weeks and looked up my manager on linkedin, the only guy in the city with that name currently works at this companies big rival

hmmm maybe he switched companies and hasn't updated his linked?

# ? Aug 12, 2015 15:03

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

so it turns out the other source of what I thought was memory corruption was in fact the atmel studio terminal inserting literal \H when I hit backspace in the input box and causing an overflow of my command buffer on the device :pwn:

# ? Aug 12, 2015 19:27

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

surebet posted:

he still managed to rack up thousands in billables which i'll be going over because there's no loving way stuff like changing 100 pictures from 10mp to 640*480 should take 3 hours when you don't do any actual work on them

you just know he opened and re-saved each one individually

# ? Aug 12, 2015 19:37

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Luigi Thirty posted:

so it turns out the other source of what I thought was memory corruption was in fact the atmel studio terminal inserting literal \H when I hit backspace in the input box and causing an overflow of my command buffer on the device

holy poo poo

I knew embedded IDEs were bad but that's p bad

# ? Aug 12, 2015 19:38

Jerry Bindle: May 16, 2003

eschaton posted:

holy poo poo

I knew embedded IDEs were bad but that's p bad

the thing on the other end of the serial line has to know you hit backspace somehow

# ? Aug 12, 2015 19:49

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

eschaton posted:

holy poo poo

I knew embedded IDEs were bad but that's p bad

well it's visual studio with a bunch of embedded stuff bolted on and it's better than loving eclipse

I heard Xilinx's tools are godawful but I'm not :spergin:

enough to get into FPGAs as a hobbyist

Barnyard Protein posted:

the thing on the other end of the serial line has to know you hit backspace somehow

it doesn't actually send the line of text until you press send and there's no indication or option that this is taking place, the character is just deleted in the input line.

Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Aug 12, 2015

# ? Aug 12, 2015 19:49

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

surebet posted:

so we have a new web dev

"hey please add this google analytics snippet to the site: (link to my personal gh repo) it goes in the <head>"

sent that 2 fridays ago, last week i was on vacation, come back to the realisation that instead of adding the code as a sane person would he just pasted the link verbatim as the first <body> line and every loving page if the company site has been advertising my gh for a week

when i asked wtf wasn't clear about "put the code in the <head>" he explains that he doesn't understand what a <head> is

dude uses frontpage 2003 in strictly wysiwyg mode

so we have another new web dev

i've been worried about my hirability, this gave me hope, thanks :unsmith:

# ? Aug 12, 2015 20:54

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

surebet posted:

so we have a new web dev

"hey please add this google analytics snippet to the site: (link to my personal gh repo) it goes in the <head>"

sent that 2 fridays ago, last week i was on vacation, come back to the realisation that instead of adding the code as a sane person would he just pasted the link verbatim as the first <body> line and every loving page if the company site has been advertising my gh for a week

when i asked wtf wasn't clear about "put the code in the <head>" he explains that he doesn't understand what a <head> is

dude uses frontpage 2003 in strictly wysiwyg mode

so we have another new web dev

lol

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:09

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

Barnyard Protein posted:

hmmm maybe he switched companies and hasn't updated his linked?

while this is probably the answer, there is also the outside chance of some other fuckery going on since it looks like he worked here 7 years ago

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:10

surebet: Jan 10, 2013; ａｖａｔａｒ
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eschaton posted:

you just know he opened and re-saved each one individually

yeah that's obvious, but still it boggles my mind as to how it takes so long even doing that

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:18

Su-Su-Sudoko: Oct 25, 2007; what stands in the way becomes the way

surebet posted:

yeah that's obvious, but still it boggles my mind as to how it takes so long even doing that

lovely computer + closing and opening photoshop for every pic

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:26

Catalyst-proof: May 11, 2011; better waste some time with you

surebet posted:

my local market is 50-75$ for a junior dev and 100-150 for a senior on a contractual basis, dude bid 45

he still managed to rack up thousands in billables which i'll be going over because there's no loving way stuff like changing 100 pictures from 10mp to 640*480 should take 3 hours when you don't do any actual work on them

hell, if you're not completely retarded you just install this https://imageresizer.codeplex.com/

he somehow got control of the domain though so that's going to be pretty lol to resolve

why on god's green earth would you install "Image Resizer for Windows"

here

code:

$ for image in *.jpeg; do; convert "${image}" -resize 640x480 "resized/${image}"; done

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:34

Catalyst-proof: May 11, 2011; better waste some time with you

imagemagick is proof that god loves us and that all image manipulations can be done on the command line

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:35

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

also its really aesy to record macros in photoshop, and then you can drag and drop a bunch of files onto a macro droplet and have it Just Work

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:38

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

you can also do it in like a 5 line Python script

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:47

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

none of those options lets me bill 3 hours tho

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:48

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

A good indicator that somebody is a particularly bad programmer is when he or she doesn't think to use programming to solve a repetitive task. I was in a graphics class once and we had to make an object in a washer shape. I used some sines and cosines and came up with a model whose polygon count was controlled by a constant. Then I got into the lab and saw everybody else's version. A few of them used graph paper and typed in the coordinates. A bunch more calculated the values correctly, but did it by hand, then typed them in.

Edit:

Dessert Rose posted:

none of those options lets me bill 3 hours tho

Good point.

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:48

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

horse mans posted:

why on god's green earth would you install "Image Resizer for Windows"

here
code:
$ for image in *.jpeg; do; convert "${image}" -resize 640x480 "resized/${image}"; done

we're talking about osmeone who unironically uses microsoft frontpage, i'm guessing this is not a particularly sophisticated comptuer user we have here

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:49

Catalyst-proof: May 11, 2011; better waste some time with you

Dessert Rose posted:

none of those options lets me bill 3 hours tho

no, it just means you don't do 3 hours of work

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:55

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

surebet posted:

so we have a new web dev

"hey please add this google analytics snippet to the site: (link to my personal gh repo) it goes in the <head>"

sent that 2 fridays ago, last week i was on vacation, come back to the realisation that instead of adding the code as a sane person would he just pasted the link verbatim as the first <body> line and every loving page if the company site has been advertising my gh for a week

when i asked wtf wasn't clear about "put the code in the <head>" he explains that he doesn't understand what a <head> is

dude uses frontpage 2003 in strictly wysiwyg mode

so we have another new web dev

holy poo poo that's impressive

# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:57

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

CPColin posted:

A good indicator that somebody is a particularly bad programmer is when he or she doesn't think to use programming to solve a repetitive task.

when i was still learning to program on a c64 (i was uh 4? 5?) i was reading some book that was trying to explain how to POKE a sprite into memory, and they explained how to calculate the starting memory address for the sprite (base memory addr + some offset whatever) and then when they showed the code they just wrote in the exact same equation! it was two constants added together, but what they said by way of explanation stuck in my head hard. something to the effect of "yeah you could just add this up yourself, maybe on a calculator, but the computer is just a fancy calculator, so why do more work than you have to?"

it's advice that has served me well ever since. don't ever do anything for the computer, the computer is there to do things for you

# ? Aug 12, 2015 22:39

Janitor Prime: Jan 22, 2004; PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean; Fun Shoe

CPColin posted:

A good indicator that somebody is a particularly bad programmer is when he or she doesn't think to use programming to solve a repetitive task. I was in a graphics class once and we had to make an object in a washer shape. I used some sines and cosines and came up with a model whose polygon count was controlled by a constant. Then I got into the lab and saw everybody else's version. A few of them used graph paper and typed in the coordinates. A bunch more calculated the values correctly, but did it by hand, then typed them in.

look at this loving math nerd

*everyone in your class probably

# ? Aug 13, 2015 00:14

AWWNAW: Dec 30, 2008

Soricidus posted:

we're talking about osmeone who unironically uses microsoft frontpage, i'm guessing this is not a particularly sophisticated comptuer user we have here

I used front page to make some sites and charge money for them

in 1997

when I was in high school

# ? Aug 13, 2015 00:45

Plorkyeran: Mar 22, 2007; To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

fart simpson posted:

tizen is a crappy knockoff of anroid

tizen is android, but with all of the components that actually work replaced with things that don't work

# ? Aug 13, 2015 01:00

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Janitor Prime posted:

look at this loving math nerd

*everyone in your class probably

Pfft whatever, man, that washer was round as poo poo. :awesome:

# ? Aug 13, 2015 02:00

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

CPColin posted:

A good indicator that somebody is a particularly bad programmer is when he or she doesn't think to use programming to solve a repetitive task. I was in a graphics class once and we had to make an object in a washer shape. I used some sines and cosines and came up with a model whose polygon count was controlled by a constant. Then I got into the lab and saw everybody else's version. A few of them used graph paper and typed in the coordinates. A bunch more calculated the values correctly, but did it by hand, then typed them in.

Edit:

Good point.

it's always worth putting in real effort if the future dividends are paid in laziness

# ? Aug 13, 2015 03:05

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

AWWNAW posted:

I used front page to make some sites and charge money for them

in 1997

when I was in high school

same but dreamweaver

# ? Aug 13, 2015 15:52

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

AWWNAW posted:

I used front page to make some sites and charge money for them

in 1997

when I was in high school

there are many people who try to keep doing this, forever

one of my high school friends dropped out of a cs degree, freshman year, because he already knew frontpage

# ? Aug 13, 2015 15:55

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

CPColin posted:

A good indicator that somebody is a particularly bad programmer is when he or she doesn't think to use programming to solve a repetitive task. I was in a graphics class once and we had to make an object in a washer shape. I used some sines and cosines and came up with a model whose polygon count was controlled by a constant. Then I got into the lab and saw everybody else's version. A few of them used graph paper and typed in the coordinates. A bunch more calculated the values correctly, but did it by hand, then typed them in.

it's me lol :smith:

# ? Aug 13, 2015 15:56

NihilCredo: Jun 6, 2011; iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

CPColin posted:

A good indicator that somebody is a particularly bad programmer is when he or she doesn't think to use programming to solve a repetitive task. I was in a graphics class once and we had to make an object in a washer shape. I used some sines and cosines and came up with a model whose polygon count was controlled by a constant. Then I got into the lab and saw everybody else's version. A few of them used graph paper and typed in the coordinates. A bunch more calculated the values correctly, but did it by hand, then typed them in.

does "use programming" include "adding the keypress sequence for the task to a new bind in your .ahk file and then mashing it"

# ? Aug 13, 2015 16:23

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

and problem #3 was that my cheap Chinese breadboard had a continuity problem causing strange behavior

# ? Aug 13, 2015 16:57

Plorkyeran: Mar 22, 2007; To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

NihilCredo posted:

does "use programming" include "adding the keypress sequence for the task to a new bind in your .ahk file and then mashing it"

yes

# ? Aug 13, 2015 17:58

lord of the files: Sep 4, 2012

As a Millennial I posted:

there are many people who try to keep doing this, forever

one of my high school friends dropped out of a cs degree, freshman year, because he already knew frontpage

i don't even feel bad laughing at this.

# ? Aug 13, 2015 18:40

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

well ok maybe the depression and drug abuse had something to do with it too

# ? Aug 13, 2015 18:44

lord of the files: Sep 4, 2012

i'm sure a lot more will come along that way with that kind of decision.

# ? Aug 13, 2015 18:46

my homie dhall: Dec 9, 2010; honey, oh please, it's just a machine

my major is not computer science because 18-year-old me thought they were just going to teach me how to program for 4 years :saddowns:

# ? Aug 13, 2015 20:14

Illusive Fuck Man: Jul 5, 2004; RIP John McCain feel better xoxo ð ð; Taco Defender

I interviewed at a startup today and a 40 year old man referred to my work history as "gigs." I really wanted to say "please don't use that word for that" but I want them to like me so they make me an offer I can leverage it to get more money elsewhere.

# ? Aug 14, 2015 01:19

Jerry Bindle: May 16, 2003

40 yo at a startup posted:

how do you do fellow kids

# ? Aug 14, 2015 01:35

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# ? May 13, 2024 07:32

Phobeste: Apr 9, 2006; never, like, count out Touchdown Tom, man

daily reminder that i am a bad programmer: spent days trying to hunt down an IMPRECISERR in my cortex-m4 code, found some random blog post that had a bit to set in a register to turn off out-of-order execution, used that to find the problem... and it was this:

code:

bool* foo;
*foo = false;

end my job, life

# ? Aug 14, 2015 02:43

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