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wkarma posted:Don't forget about the navalized F-117 I agree! The only argument for Canada buying Eurofighters: http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_5/fantasy_420.html It's be the greatest aerobatic team ever, assuming you'd survive the show: http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_6/fantasy_577.html Luftwaffe Vulcan a good idea (though the unit logo is a night-fighting unit) http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_1/fantasy_059.html Dazzle camo the 80s-est camo: http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_2/fantasy_130.html
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0toShifty posted:And the most hilarious one - a swing-wing F-4 Phantom This was actually a proposal aimed mostly at the Royal Navy for their proposed CVA-01 Class aircraft carrier. When that went tits up, so did the VG Phantom.
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Godholio posted:Sheriff Joe's not gonna need viagra when he sees this... Could you imagine how much better CHiPs would have been if Erik Estrada had been tearing rear end around in one of those.
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Could you imagine how much better CHiPs would have been if Erik Estrada had been tearing rear end around in one of those. People would sure as hell start taking those "Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft" signs a hell of a lot more seriously.
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The M60 that terrorized LA that one day in the 90s probably wouldn't have gotten nearly as far either.
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TCD posted:Also I hope somebody had told Gates he was a dumbass cutting the 22 buy. I'm sure we could use an extra 200 airframes given the current world events. Somebody wrote a whole book about it. Consider the source obviously, it's not going to be a solely unbiased look at the events of that time period, and the author already admitted that the "near-peer/North Korea" thing was a poor choice of examples for the blurb that takes away from the overall point. That said, I haven't seen anything that provided the AF point of view of that time period...hell, I've seen very little that has explicitly stated that Raptor advocacy was the reason Moseley (and subsequently Wynne, when he failed to fire Moseley) were shitcanned, even though everyone knows that's the real reason and the nuke thing was just the excuse. Dorr has some very inside baseball sources when it comes to the AF, so he'll definitely be able to paint a good picture of the AF's side of things. In the opening pages it hammers home the point that the 187 number was pulled directly out of Gates's rear end for budget reasons in contrast to the very logical reasons why we really needed 381 at a minimum, which is something I haven't seen in too many sources despite the fact that it's the absolute truth. I'll probably read it this weekend.
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Barack Obama campaigned on the promise that he would cut the F-22. It would have happened with or without Gates. He threatened to veto any bill containing funding for more Raptors and he was so invested in this decision he refused to be photographed with one. Remember, this was at a time when the Democrats had 60 seats in the Senate and an overwhelming majority in the House. It was never a fight Obama was going to lose, even if Gates supporting it made it easier.
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david_a posted:What are the pros/cons to those V tails? A lot of drones seem to use them. +5 against doctors
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I'm the far right wheel that doesn't extend past the engine.
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david_a posted:What are the pros/cons to those V tails? A lot of drones seem to use them. The downside of course is that it makes handling more complicated, although this probably isn't a problem for a computerized system.
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Defense Watch clippings: In America - 1/3rd young adults too fat to enlist in the military: http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/one-in-three-young-adults-in-u-s-too-fat-to-enlist-in-military Another Canadian Lt. Colonel, another bunch of rape charges. At least he isn't raping subordinates and then not attending their funerals when they kill themselves? http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/senior-canadian-forces-officer-charged-with-sexual-assault In the runup to the Canadian Federal election, the Cons are finding small military infrastructure projects they can announce to balance the whole "underfunding of the military" thing: http://ottawacitizen.com/news/natio...-up-to-election The Canadian Navy is renting supply ships from Chile and Spain: http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/spanish-ship-to-handle-east-coast-supply-duties-for-royal-canadian-navy Canada could buy A-10s!!!! (I mean, they have that option, not that they will): http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/boeing-stands-ready-to-sell-a-10-warthogs-to-u-s-allies A technical letter about reorganization fuckery in the RCAF http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/questions-about-squadron-changes-in-the-rcaf  Trigger warning: Bullshit Forbes gives ten reasons why the F-35 is becoming a smashing success. Point #3 is literally "the Marines just declared it operational" http://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthompson/2015/07/13/ten-signs-the-f-35-fighter-program-is-becoming-a-smashing-success/Even someone who doesn't mind the defense spending reduction to 1% GDP is pointing out how badly the Cons screwed up military spending: http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/buy-super-hornets-abandon-victoria-class-submarines-new-report-recommends
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Boomerjinks posted:+5 against doctors 
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Nebakenezzer posted:Another Canadian Lt. Colonel, another bunch of rape charges. At least he isn't raping subordinates and then not attending their funerals when they kill themselves? http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/senior-canadian-forces-officer-charged-with-sexual-assault It's a lot worse than you think; this guy was raping Army Cadets.
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Crosspost from Aeronautical Insanity. Are you guys into F-14 stuff? Well cool cuz here's an hour-long video about how the F-14's design came to be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsUCixAeZ0A
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MrChips posted:It's a lot worse than you think; this guy was raping Army Cadets. gently caress  e: His last name is Stalker, that should have been a give-away
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B4Ctom1 posted:w00t 
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0toShifty posted:An F-14 with a single tail (ew) Oh my god are those drop-down/rotatable lower vertical stabs in back under the slab elevators?  I don't read this thread anywhere near as much as I used to cause drat there's been some good stuff.
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B4Ctom1 posted:fantasy plane thread! w00t Looks like someone is a Draken fan. e: fixed alex314 fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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Aaaah, Draken, Gripen. Single middle letter. My autism goes full swing with how much they are misspelled even in national media here.
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Duke Chin posted:Oh my god are those drop-down/rotatable lower vertical stabs in back under the slab elevators? It'd been done before.  
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Duke Chin posted:Oh my god are those drop-down/rotatable lower vertical stabs in back under the slab elevators? The F-14 development video actually mentions the ventral stabilizers. The Navy demanded they went twin tail in case they lost an engine. With two tails - the ventral fins were deleted.
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0toShifty posted:The F-14 development video actually mentions the ventral stabilizers. The Navy demanded they went twin tail in case they lost an engine. With two tails - the ventral fins were deleted. Good for the USN, it made the plane not look like an airplane version of the "kill me..." creature from Alien: Resurrection.
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StandardVC10 posted:Normally the fantasy schemes are silly, but that Irish F-14… actually kind of works. I presume in this case. The fantasy is the Irish being able to defend their own airspace? 
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Baracula posted:stop gripen about it, sperg  Also the center-of-lift of that wing looks too far aft.
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0toShifty posted:The F-14 development video actually mentions the ventral stabilizers. The Navy demanded they went twin tail in case they lost an engine. With two tails - the ventral fins were deleted. Neat. I really need to set aside an hour to watch that thing... Most likely at work. 
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Slamburger posted:
Thats what the big lift fan is for
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david_a posted:Are they flying a Viggen?? I did note that when I first watched that episode. A Golden Viggen 
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Godholio posted:
The tinfoil hat brigate like to claim it made way for a stealthy ECM/designator aircraft that would go downtown with the F-117s. Seems unlikely...
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I spend most of my morning driving around the city of Chicago. This is by far my favorite Thursday-Saturday of the year to work.
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