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cheese posted:Also, the activated AA ability increases your longest range aura dps by a factor of SIX, according to that mechanics breakdown guide. I think this is why US cruisers are so brutal at AA. This is why I think that the Atlanta is arguably better than the Cleveland at raw AA killing power, at least with DF active. 16 5" DP vs 12. I cannot wait to see if they add the later model Atlanta (second and third batch, CLs 95-98 and 119-121) with added AA: NavSource.org posted:CLASS - JUNEAU (Modified ATLANTA) edit: whups, new page - quote added TehKeen fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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Well. It finally happened. The worst matchmaking I've ever seen.  Pretty bad division, too.
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Moatman posted:Well. It finally happened. The worst matchmaking I've ever seen. Bitch, Please.  Everyone on my team just drove into a corner of the map and AFKed.
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Aug 13, 2015 04:33
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What's the third level cruiser skill to take? Nothing seems very useful.
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Aug 13, 2015 04:38
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My go-to is the repair party time reduction unless it's T8-10 where they get the damage repair ability in which case the extra charge skill isn't bad.
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Aug 13, 2015 04:42
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I'm going to be sad to see the cross corner spawn, 5 cap point Hot Spot map go away. I must have an 80% win rate on that thing - as long as you aggressively call out for your team to collapse on a corner (the SE corner if you are the SW/NE spawn, the SW corner if you are the SE/NW spawn) and they more or less do that, you win effortlessly. Example... Step1: We called out to collapse on SW corner, and a few minutes into the game are already doing so.  Step2: 4 minutes later and the match is effectively over. Every ship in the SW is dead to no losses on our side, and their remaining tier 8's can be seen in the very north of the minimap, doing precisely nothing.  Step3: A few more minutes later, a few more ships are mopped up and we win a flawless victory at around the 11 minute remaining mark. The enemy NC, who should have dominated the match, did almost nothing because we collapsed away from him and he did not follow aggressively enough.  RIP cross corner Hot Spot. You were a fast and dirty map, and you will be missed.
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Aug 13, 2015 04:42
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Insert name here posted:The DP guns are deceptively decent at downing planes ever since they buffed them. This official forum post does a good job of explaining AA. There's an RNG factor, and guns have varying rates of fire, so there is a sort of alpha strike with dual-purpose guns. You can definitely see it if you watch a Des Moines or Atlanta shooting at planes. Also worth noticing, unless the author worded it wrong targeting a squadron with control-click is a straight increase to your AA damage: each set of AA guns can only attack one squadron anyway.
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Aug 13, 2015 04:49
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TehKeen posted:My go-to is the repair party time reduction unless it's T8-10 where they get the damage repair ability in which case the extra charge skill isn't bad. Dammit, I keep mistaking repair party for the health recovery consumable. Thanks.
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Aug 13, 2015 04:51
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Gotta love other cruisers who show their broadsides to my Cleveland. Citadels galore!
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   It's me. I'm the Skycancer. 
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James Garfield posted:This official forum post does a good job of explaining AA.
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Aug 13, 2015 05:08
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Is there a formula for how much health the repair party restores, by the way? The mouseover says it restores 228 HP per second but sometimes I get way less overall health than other times.
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Aug 13, 2015 07:13
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Flippycunt posted:Is there a formula for how much health the repair party restores, by the way? The mouseover says it restores 228 HP per second but sometimes I get way less overall health than other times.
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Aug 13, 2015 07:16
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It's a little wonky I agree, I feel like it restores up to 20% of your hp in light damage/fire/flooding that you've taken since either the beginning of the match or since the last time you used the ability, so if you had 1000hp, take 200 fire damage, repair, it'll heal you for 200. If you took 400 it would put you at 800, and if you don't take any damage between now and you trying to use it again, it does fuckall, but that's from my entirely unscientific observations.
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Had a game in my Cleveland on North where a Hiryu called me a "retard for driving so deep to shoot him". I was on one of the points shooting at him from ~15/16km.  Flippycunt posted:Is there a formula for how much health the repair party restores, by the way? The mouseover says it restores 228 HP per second but sometimes I get way less overall health than other times. quote:Repair Party
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Edit: Well there you go. ^^ I don't think it heals 'heavy' damage at all. Fully upgraded Fuso is worth the suffering and free xp to get out of the stock hull. This was a weird game. I ended up in the NE of the Ice map trying to be a roadblock to an Iowa, Mogami, and New Orleans that were coming from D towards our carriers. A metal as hell New York rams the Iowa and takes it out. I start shooting at the Mogami and New Orleans until they get behind the ice and a Fuso appears from the north. I have a little duel with the help of torp bombers as the Mogami comes back. It eventually gets really close and I citadel it to death, but not before it sets me on fire over and over. Right before I burn to death, the New Orleans reappears. I shoot then die right before my salvo hits the citadel and kills it.    Replay
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Insert name here posted:Had a game in my Cleveland on North where a Hiryu called me a "retard for driving so deep to shoot him". I was on one of the points shooting at him from ~15/16km. Cool, thanks man.
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The listed HP/second is consistent, it always restores that quickly. The maximum HP recovered depends on the type of damage you take: fire and flooding are 100% recoverable, citadel hits 10%, everything else 50% (I think). Torpedoes might also be different. As far as I recall, time has nothing to do with it.
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So regular scout planes can attack bombers. Screws up their speed and accuracy too. I wonder if that's a bug or just a neat side bonus.
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Regarding Repair Party, I think you can see how much it will repair beforehand by pressing the ALT key.
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Lord Koth posted:On carriers spotting you, you're absolutely correct, and I referenced that. Squadrons just meandering above destroyers keeping them spotted is a real issue, and one that needs addressing. That said, in most cases for me an ambush has been ruined by floatplanes rather than a carrier. I tend to run into the carrier issue more when I'm actually moving around the map, as I generally try to stay off the common flight paths when picking an ambush spot. quote:Carriers actually killing destroyers, on the other hand is a different matter. Or, in other words, you stated I should play mid/high tier US destroyers before commenting and I return the statement - you should probably play mid/high tier carriers before commenting regarding that. Because at least in the middle tiers, planes fly nowhere near fast enough to even remotely reliably catch a destroyer actually reacting to incoming torpedo planes before they drop, multiple squadrons or no, as generally they're small and nimble enough to dodge through even a weave if they're already reacting as the planes come in. Have I killed destroyers? Yes, quite a few, but almost all of them were sailing in a straight line right up until just before the torpedoes hit. A bunch of people playing destroyers seem to have this idea that torpedo bombers would never target them, and thus don't notice or pay attention that a squadron is making an attack run on them. US torpedo bomber squadrons are slightly different, as their spread is admittedly so tight that even for destroyers dodging through one is tough. But you seem to be conflating multiple squadrons with tight spreads being everywhere, when only the very highest tier US carriers have access to both of those. As for dive bombers, are you serious? I've made plenty of dual squadron attacks on destroyers where not a single bomb out of eight has hit, even when I've had the destroyer perfectly lined up. Can they hit? Yes but it's already an unlikely event, and this just moves it to virtually no chance at all. And again I'll remind you that one of the excuses WG gave for giving people dive bombers over torpedo bombers is that they were more effective against small targets due to there being no obvious ordinance to dodge - a claim which is STILL patently false. I accept they're RNG; I accept that even perfect attack runs by them should not necessarily be hitting all the time, due to said RNG; I DO NOT accept RNG so bad that multiple attack runs by multiple squadrons against a single target in the same game cannot get a single hit on them, despite more than a few of the runs catching him straight on at point of release. I've been getting a lot better at dodging lone torpedo bomber drops, but the problem with an attack by TBs is that even ONE torpedo hit could be immediately fatal to the DD. Crossing torpedo spreads are even deadlier, and also nigh unavoidable. And if its coming from an IJN CV, they can drop these torpedoes pretty drat close, making it even harder to avoid, while the US CVs have such tight torpedo formations that threading through them is a nightmare. And this only gets HARDER with the high tier CVs, as their planes fly faster and have more damaging torpedoes, and more squads to send out, spot you, and kill you on a whim. Like I've said, my leading cause of death in my Fubuki, T8, is CV. Nothing else comes even close. quote:Also, and this is calling back to "play more destroyers," while I definitely have more playtime on the IJN ship tree, for the actual classes I have around the same percentage of games in all four - slightly higher in cruisers, slightly lower in CVs and DDs. All are in the 20s though. Especially with CVs, actually playing them and learning how to drop also helps in figuring out how to dodge them. You and many others keep complaining about arming time, but planes are committed to their runs well before the actual drop. Whether the arming distance needs to be increased or not is irrelevant in this specific instance, because destroyers really are nimble enough to thread a even a weave if you react to the actual runs rather than the drop.
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Why is the St Louis so venerated in this game? I've had one for two weeks and while I think its a decent ship, I found both the Phoenix and especially the Omaha much superior. I've nearly reached the Cleveland and I'm thinking of selling my St Louis and using the Commander in my Cleveland but I just feel like I'm missing something with the St Louis. I typically get 100 hits or more in a match with it but I don't feel like the damage is great. I mostly use HE vs everything.
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kaesarsosei posted:Why is the St Louis so venerated in this game? I've had one for two weeks and while I think its a decent ship, I found both the Phoenix and especially the Omaha much superior. I've nearly reached the Cleveland and I'm thinking of selling my St Louis and using the Commander in my Cleveland but I just feel like I'm missing something with the St Louis. I typically get 100 hits or more in a match with it but I don't feel like the damage is great. I mostly use HE vs everything. You need to face charge more, it is glorious 
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kaesarsosei posted:Why is the St Louis so venerated in this game? I've had one for two weeks and while I think its a decent ship, I found both the Phoenix and especially the Omaha much superior. I've nearly reached the Cleveland and I'm thinking of selling my St Louis and using the Commander in my Cleveland but I just feel like I'm missing something with the St Louis. I typically get 100 hits or more in a match with it but I don't feel like the damage is great. I mostly use HE vs everything.
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Ok this dumb channel poo poo is getting stupid. There are about 20 channels with "Goon" in it. Yes I found one that accepts the secret squirrel password and have been in there a good portion of today and yet no one is in there. Can't we just have a normal friggin channel and post in the OP? Would be nice to have a channel that everyone could easily get into so we can play together. Nobody give a gently caress if a pubbie may be there once in a blue moon a steals all our goon secrets. Don't say join TS because I have been in there the last few days and at most there have been 5 people total in there. Most AFK.
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If you're interested in seeing all the new doodads & stuff, here's how to get onto the test server: http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/041-public-test/ test allegedly starts in about four hours (not sure, they don't specify am/pm or 24hr time) and lasts all weekend I really really really wanna see what the US AA DDs look like. 
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Don't rage Rage. We had a bunch of dudes on yesterday and well into the evening playing that were in TS. I know because I was on TS most of the afternoon minus the hour or two I took for dinner and run my dogs. I saw you sitting idle in the top channel and did not see you move down where the rest of us were sitting. Even shooting the poo poo with us you can find someone. I don't control the in-game channel and shitters keep creating more channels that simply don't go away. I guess we can make a new channel and see if it takes hold. I'll create SEAMN with pass goons. I'll post that in the OP but you have been around long enough to understand that goons are not tolerant or accepting of change.  Created.. SEAMN password goons. Added to OP but no promises it will take off. demonR6 fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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My ships keep switching ammo of their own volition and I don't know why, and usually don't notice until it's too late, ie half a dozen broadsides from a cruiser with no fire -> check and somehow it switched to AP, 3 broadsides from a battleship with no decent penetrations -> check and somehow it's switched to HE
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You wouldn't fire torpedos: Hit 3 to fire them. Go back to Cannons with 1, and then be suprised to be firing HE instead of AP? Not that this ever happened to me. Nope, never. Not at all. No Sir.
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Tank Boy Ken posted:You wouldn't fire torpedos: Hit 3 to fire them. Go back to Cannons with 1, and then be suprised to be firing HE instead of AP? Not that this ever happened to me. Nope, never. Not at all. No Sir. I have actually done that in the past, but no, the Wyoming does not have torpedoes to switch to
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Tank Boy Ken posted:You wouldn't fire torpedos: Hit 3 to fire them. Go back to Cannons with 1, and then be suprised to be firing HE instead of AP? Not that this ever happened to me. Nope, never. Not at all. No Sir. I used to do this all the goddamn time.
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I really wish this next patch addressed giving better rewards for shooting down planes. It would solve so many problems: AA cruisers would have a great incentive to stay with BBs or CVs. Fighters would be useful. Having a fighter heavy carrier would give you more potential to shoot down a lot of planes, rewarding you enough to give up on the damage potential of a strike carrier.
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Do you get more smoke charges as you go up the tech tree? I'm still working out the new skill tree. Also, is the Arkansas Beta dogshit or is it just me?
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loving Wargaming closed the ticket I opened about not being able to manage the clan with zero input. All I got was the notification they closed it. Period. Can someone who I have given recruiter status see if they can add one of the 20 goons waiting? If it still does not work then these fucks censored us w/o giving us an option to fix it.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:Do you get more smoke charges as you go up the tech tree? I'm still working out the new skill tree. Not on ship hulls, but Superintendent is what you're looking for. Yeah probably. demonR6 posted:loving Wargaming closed the ticket I opened about not being able to manage the clan with zero input. All I got was the notification they closed it. Period. Can someone who I have given recruiter status see if they can add one of the 20 goons waiting? Go to the gaming press and see if we can embarrass them again.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:
It is canine feces normally, yes, but if you are dumb enough to spend literally millions of credits upgrading it it's ok. Still has literally no AA and sees tier 6 ships.
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Apparently Wakatake is down to 30 seconds turret traverse, Mutsuki is 18, presumably on the upgraded DP guns that you only get two of though.
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demonR6 posted:loving Wargaming closed the ticket I opened about not being able to manage the clan with zero input. All I got was the notification they closed it. Period. Can someone who I have given recruiter status see if they can add one of the 20 goons waiting? Nope, I get an error when I try to accept an app.
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NTRabbit posted:My ships keep switching ammo of their own volition and I don't know why, and usually don't notice until it's too late, ie half a dozen broadsides from a cruiser with no fire -> check and somehow it switched to AP, 3 broadsides from a battleship with no decent penetrations -> check and somehow it's switched to HE I've had this before when switching to torpedoes, it switches the ammo type next loaded to HE.
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Michi88 posted:I've had this before when switching to torpedoes, it switches the ammo type next loaded to HE. That's because you pressed 1 to go back to your guns instead of 2 to go back to your guns. As others above have done, I too do this poo poo all the time. I wish there was 1 button for guns, and 1 for torps. Then set two different buttons for switching between the two shell types. I always end up launching torps just to find my guns are now reloading.
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