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Mantis42 posted:I mean if David Lynch can edit a bunch of episodes from an unaired tv series and turn it into one of the best films of the 2000s, I'm sure he can do the reverse and turn a movie into a tv show. Which movie are we talking about here?
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Which movie are we talking about here? Mulholland Dr. was initially a television pilot, believe it or not. The last 45 or so minutes were added onto to it so it could become a feature film after the series it would have been wasn't picked up.
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Aug 13, 2015 19:37
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Cool thanks for the tip.
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Aug 13, 2015 20:14
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Raxivace posted:Mulholland Dr. was initially a television pilot, believe it or not. The last 45 or so minutes were added onto to it so it could become a feature film after the series it would have been wasn't picked up. It was also originally pitched as an Audrey Horne spinoff.
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Aug 13, 2015 20:43
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esperterra posted:It was also originally pitched as an Audrey Horne spinoff. Honestly I don't think Audrey being the lead would have added much to the film. That seems like more the kind of thing Tarantino would have done, and not someone like Lynch.
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Aug 13, 2015 21:25
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Raxivace posted:Mulholland Dr. was initially a television pilot, believe it or not. The last 45 or so minutes were added onto to it so it could become a feature film after the series it would have been wasn't picked up. I knew Mulholland Drive was a failed pilot. Thing is, that's not editing several episodes of a TV show into a movie. That's bolting 45 minutes onto the end of the TV show. And while he did use an interesting twist in having all the actors switch places, I don't think that really indicates that he can take 15 hours of film written as a continuous narrative and turn it into 15 episodes of TV in editing.
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Aug 13, 2015 21:26
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The idea kind of reminds me of Lars von Trier's Kingdom. That show was initially shown as two crazy 4-5 hour films, and later cut and re-edited into eleven episodes. I think it's amazing, personally. If Lynch knows what he's doing, it will be one hell of a Twin Peaks film. If he doesn't, well, it's still going to be one hell of a Twin Peaks film.  There really isn't any downside to this unless you're somehow worried about viewers getting bored and confused. Seems like a great opportunity for Lynch to tell a story without being bogged down by the episodic format.
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Aug 13, 2015 22:02
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I knew Mulholland Drive was a failed pilot. Thing is, that's not editing several episodes of a TV show into a movie. That's bolting 45 minutes onto the end of the TV show. And while he did use an interesting twist in having all the actors switch places, I don't think that really indicates that he can take 15 hours of film written as a continuous narrative and turn it into 15 episodes of TV in editing. I'd say you're somewhat underselling what Lynch did with MD, but I agree with your larger point that it's different than turning 15 hours of film into 15 TV episodes or whatever (I think it's 18 episodes now, right?). Hopefully Mark Frost's presence can help structure this thing though.
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Aug 13, 2015 22:05
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Mark Frost being around should definitely help. A lot of the more straight forward plot stuff in the first season was all him. With the two of them together hopefully there will be form and off the wall weirdness.
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Aug 13, 2015 22:36
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Raxivace posted:Well...the series finale kind of throws a wrench into the explanation the show gives for the murder, by having the Killer's Doppelganger claim they weren't actually the one that killed Laura, implying that it was purely the Killer themself, and the movie only continues to explore that idea to a degree. I actually took the film's position on the matter to be that while BOB was definitely the devil on Leland's shoulder, Leland himself was far from blameless in the murder and abuse of his own daughter.
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Aug 13, 2015 23:23
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I actually took the film's position on the matter to be that while BOB was definitely the devil on Leland's shoulder, Leland himself was far from blameless in the murder and abuse of his own daughter. I think it depends on what chunk of the series you're looking at, and who the main creative force was behind it at the time. Lynch certainly takes your view in the finale and FWWM (And the story is better with his interpretation IMO), but I feel like some of the non-Lynch episodes more or less use BOB as a kind of scapegoat for Leland's culpability.
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Aug 13, 2015 23:34
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Leland was a corporate lawyer for the super powerful whitest dude in town (Confederacy apologist Ben Horne) BOB was feeding off all the evil and suffering and amplifying it by possessing him and abusing Laura (to make her a more charged vessel for tormenting men) He went to his back-up host, Dale Cooper - FBI Agent. Lots of potential for suffering there.
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Leland's doppelganger says that he didn't kill Laura because he didn't, Bob did. He just said that to Cooper because Cooper was confused and obviously thought it was the real Leland. I don't think Leland's doppelganger has ever left the Lodge, Bob and the doppelgangers are separate entities.
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I personally thought the end of the series at first was that was the Dale Doppleganger wasn't like Dale's Evil side, but more like Bob sending himself off after Dale. Dale was pretty much willing to die for Annie's sake, and that let Bob take over/possess him. Anyway, I've just finished watching all of Twin Peaks and FWWM in the past few days, and while it's definitely all very good, I have to say in the end I honestly just did not give that much of a gently caress about Laura Palmer, and really enjoyed the spooky metaphysical evil whatnots, and I found that a lot of the soap-opera-y bits dragged when they got kind of far away from it. Also that episode of Psych is a lot funnier now that I get more of the references. I really should've watched the show sooner.
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Aug 14, 2015 07:19
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SpookyLizard posted:
I didn't care all that much about her until I saw FWWM. That movie just makes me want to reach through the screen to try to help her but she's beyond help, its goddamn depressing.
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Aug 14, 2015 14:16
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Laura might be even more boring than James
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Aug 14, 2015 14:31
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EmmyOk posted:Laura might be even more boring than James Let's not say thing we can't take back.
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Aug 14, 2015 15:11
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Let's not say thing we can't take back. Well maybe not that bad but honestly I found her on the low end of compelling compared to many others in the story.
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Aug 14, 2015 15:12
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Basebf555 posted:I didn't care all that much about her until I saw FWWM. That movie just makes me want to reach through the screen to try to help her but she's beyond help, its goddamn depressing. The one thing of Laura that always gets me is the part in, I think either the episode where her killer is caught or the one before, when Donna reads the page from her secret diary that's something like, "I just want someone to believe me, even if it's just you, diary." That line plus Donna's reaction to reading it always hits me.
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my favorite line from laura is "i'm gone, like a turkey in the corn. gobble gobble gobble"
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Aug 16, 2015 00:25
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Sheryl Lee was scary great as Laura and Maddie and it is a travesty she didn't get more work, shame about her health as well.
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Aug 16, 2015 02:09
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I've only seen Sheryl Lee in one or two other things outside of Twin Peaks but she's always been really good, it is weird she didn't get more and bigger roles. She's one of the best things about John Carpenter's Vampires, which isn't a perfect film by any means, but her performance in it really stands out.
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Cary Elwes is my personal "How did they not become a mega star" person
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Aug 16, 2015 02:32
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Mine are Mickey Rourke and Val Kilmer, though their careers are basically the result of self sabotage E: I mean, compare Mickey Rourke and Matt Dillon's portrayals of Charles Bukowski. Dillon looks and acts like a pretty boy slumming it for a weekend. Rourke is a legit bum. regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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Basebf555 posted:I've only seen Sheryl Lee in one or two other things outside of Twin Peaks but she's always been really good, it is weird she didn't get more and bigger roles. She's one of the best things about John Carpenter's Vampires, which isn't a perfect film by any means, but her performance in it really stands out. It's weird, because she was basically cast in a bit part in Twin Peaks, and was so good Lynch just kept giving her more poo poo between Maddie and FWWM. Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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esperterra posted:Sheryl Lee was scary great as Laura and Maddie and it is a travesty she didn't get more work, shame about her health as well. I think she was best as doppleganger Laura.
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Basebf555 posted:I've only seen Sheryl Lee in one or two other things outside of Twin Peaks but she's always been really good, it is weird she didn't get more and bigger roles. She's one of the best things about John Carpenter's Vampires, which isn't a perfect film by any means, but her performance in it really stands out. She got very sick and it made it near impossible for her to work, but that was in like Basebf555 posted:I've only seen Sheryl Lee in one or two other things outside of Twin Peaks but she's always been really good, it is weird she didn't get more and bigger roles. She's one of the best things about John Carpenter's Vampires, which isn't a perfect film by any means, but her performance in it really stands out. She has some blood disease that kept her from working much, but that was in like 04 or 07 when it turned up. drat shame she didn't get much work between that and Peaks.
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I remember being sad when I saw that she did random splicer voices in BioShock 2, just thinking what a place to end up after her career start.
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Chairman Capone posted:I remember being sad when I saw that she did random splicer voices in BioShock 2, just thinking what a place to end up after her career start. Wow, I quite like BioShock 2 but that kind of role is just...not where she should be.
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Chairman Capone posted:I remember being sad when I saw that she did random splicer voices in BioShock 2, just thinking what a place to end up after her career start. Well she'll probably be in Twin Peaks 2017, so that's good right?
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Well she'll probably be in Twin Peaks 2017, so that's good right? She's going to play Laura's red haired cousin, who was smart enough to stay the gently caress away from the town of Twin Peaks.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:18
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RALF posted:She's going to play Laura's red haired cousin, who was smart enough to stay the gently caress away from the town of Twin Peaks. Identical triplet cousins?! 
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Aug 17, 2015 21:22
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Solice Kirsk posted:Identical triplet cousins?! Only Lynch could pull it off, but I'm confident he could!
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Aug 17, 2015 21:28
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Solice Kirsk posted:Identical triplet cousins?! If Patty Duke could do it, Lynch certainly can. I just hope she's not from Missoula, Montana.
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Aug 17, 2015 23:40
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So is everyone just having sex with everyone else? I swear every single plot point so far has been "sleeping with so many other people". Does this ever change? Is it just a sex show?
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Aug 19, 2015 14:52
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No one has sex with Cooper.
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Aug 19, 2015 15:03
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Welcome to soaps.
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Ramadu posted:So is everyone just having sex with everyone else? I swear every single plot point so far has been "sleeping with so many other people". Does this ever change? Is it just a sex show? there is no evil in the woods. the secret of the show is that you're seeing everyone's dementia from terminal syphilis.
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Aug 19, 2015 15:24
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Surlaw posted:No one has sex with Cooper. You are ruining my fanfics
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Surlaw posted:No one has sex with Cooper. Nor the Log Lady, who seems fulfilled enough with her large piece of wood.
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