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Boosted_C5 posted:Hell, I bet Ted Cruz would gladly run on the ticket with Trump if this happened, that self-aggrandizing gently caress. But at that point, would Trump let him?
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blue squares posted:would there be any real negative consequences to the liberal states seceding peacefully? it's always cool to watch blue staters stroke themselves over how much more moral they are than all those barbarians in the red states while fantasizing about removing the most heavily minority-populated territories from the union
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Boosted_C5 posted:Trump would win every single rabidly red state. The rabidly red states have merely been tolerating centrist candidates for the sake of the states on the borderline. Trump jumped in both feet first as a rabid crazy conservative and soaked up some of that delicious right wing press , but I think as the primary goes on and other republicans get thrown overboard, you'll see his true colors as being far more moderate than the rest of the field. Can you imagine what would happen to Ted Cruz or Scott Walker if they admitted that the Canadian health care system works and that maybe planned parenthood does some good non-abortion things and should continue to exist? Trump did both of those things and his poll numbers continue to go up. I think by the time (god willing) he makes it to the general, you're going to see some fierce attacks on Hillary Clinton from Trump's left, with the main one being that she's owned by corporate America, which is not entirely untrue, while Trump, for all his faults - can't be bought. I consider myself somewhere between a moderate and a conservative democrat, but Trump is getting very close to winning me over unironically. His threat to run 3rd party at first I thought was dickish, now I realize it's absolutely essential to his survival. If Trump loses in the primaries, he can gracefully bow out saying that the voters have spoken and he will support the [insert boring GOP white guy here] in the general and that's fine. But if the GOP establishment tries to snake the nod out from under him through some underhanded methods, he's gonna scorch the earth by going indepedent and give Hillary a 40 state win.
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blue squares posted:would there be any real negative consequences to the liberal states seceding peacefully? Not to the blue states, but it'd be amusing watching the red ones try and feed themselves without California.
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Skwirl posted:Not to the blue states, but it'd be amusing watching the red ones try and feed themselves without California. I think the entire country is going to be asking that question pretty soon.
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zeal posted:it's always cool to watch blue staters stroke themselves over how much more moral they are than all those barbarians in the red states while fantasizing about removing the most heavily minority-populated territories from the union That's a pretty good point. I was obviously joking but yeah, leaving them to be ruled by republicans would me immoral.
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OAquinas posted:I think the entire country is going to be asking that question pretty soon. We'll be fine once we institute Martial Law and start gunning people down for watering their grass, and institute a a huge tariff on the export of almonds.
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God, I don't ask you for much. In fact, we don't have the best relationship. But I am obligated to ask you for this. Please, God, if you love your creations, have Donald Trump run as an independent and qualify for the general election debates. Do this for me and I shall praise your name to all I know.
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Skwirl posted:Not to the blue states, but it'd be amusing watching the red ones try and feed themselves without California. California does about jack and poo poo as far as "feeding" the country. It mostly produces luxuries and the rest there's more than enough produced in other states, or could easily be if cultivation was taken up that was previously done in California,
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Quote of the Day - "I'll tell you, taking out Saddam Hussein turned out to be a pretty good deal." ~Jeb Bush
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DaveWoo posted:Quote of the Day - "I'll tell you, taking out Saddam Hussein turned out to be a pretty good deal." ~Jeb Bush Jeb Bush has become Sideshow Bob. Just eternally stepping on one rake after another.
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blue squares posted:That's a pretty good point. I was obviously joking but yeah, leaving them to be ruled by republicans would me immoral. That's why we grant them asylum.
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DaveWoo posted:Quote of the Day - "I'll tell you, taking out Saddam Hussein turned out to be a pretty good deal." ~Jeb Bush agreed, we definitely killed a few thousand less than Saddam so overall im sure Iraqis and Kuwaitis are glad
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DaveWoo posted:Quote of the Day - "I'll tell you, taking out Saddam Hussein turned out to be a pretty good deal." ~Jeb Bush Alter Ego posted:Jeb Bush has become Sideshow Bob. Just eternally stepping on one rake after another. More like he's stepping on rakes that he put all over the yard himself. When was the last time a candidate did this much self-inflicted damage before a single primary took place?
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yea im hating on him because he wont buy a trump cap in gold and wear it with that pic loving amateur
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Does anyone honestly believe Trump can't be bought? He's just more expensive. You don't get to be a billionaire by not taking other people's money. I'm far from being a billionaire as you may have guessed, but in my experience the more money I get, the more money I want! I mean he may have better policies than the rest of the field to the extent that he has policies, but I'm not convinced that the idea that he's too rich to be influenced by lobbyist money is really a thing.
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If Jeb was replaced by Romney would they be polling any different? Jeb feels like exactly the same candidate as Romney except with the additional Bush stink on him. Neither candidate gives Republicans an actual positive reason to vote for them besides "electability" and they are both prone to making idiotic statements every time you stick a mic in their face.
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Mons Hubris posted:Does anyone honestly believe Trump can't be bought? He's just more expensive. You don't get to be a billionaire by not taking other people's money. for me it's more his proven track record of happily taking whatever money people are willing to offer him, squirreling it away in the byzantine financial recesses of the Trumpire, and then screwing over whoever paid him in ways they can do nothing about i am sure he'll receive plenty of lobbyist money. he'll even promise to do what they want. but in the end he'll only do what Trump wants, for good or ill
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Jeb! tries to lob out an easy statement he thinks everyone will agree on. Swing and a miss.
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nachos posted:If Jeb was replaced by Romney would they be polling any different? Jeb feels like exactly the same candidate as Romney except with the additional Bush stink on him. Neither candidate gives Republicans an actual positive reason to vote for them besides "electability" and they are both prone to making idiotic statements every time you stick a mic in their face. I want a please proceed governor moment from Jeb!
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At least Romney was intentionally funny, #JebNoFilter is just cringe worthy Case in point: http://youtu.be/jBg6hU5zXDA
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GalacticAcid posted:The butter cow returns. You say butter cow, I say golden calf.
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Shageletic posted:Just to re-iterate This is literally the same line of thought the neoliberal Labour party and neoliberal Conservative party are using on Jeremy Corbyn to try to keep him from winning in the UK. As to how that's working out: He currently has something crazy like 56% of the vote in a three-person race from Labour leadership. Yeah. Turns out people don't actually give a poo poo about moderate politics "electability", and being an actual leftist does in fact energize leftists and people willing to vote for genuine leftists.
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Rocks posted:At least Romney was intentionally funny, #JebNoFilter is just cringe worthy i frankly thought he was fatter than that
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Lastgirl posted:yea im hating on him because he wont buy a trump cap in gold and wear it with that pic Haters gonna hat.
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zeal posted:i frankly thought he was fatter than that He was until recently: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/250077-bush-drops-40-pounds-on-paleo-diet
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Gyges posted:Ailes is probably giving [Megyn Kelly] an all expense paid trip to a world class resort. You know who owns a lot of world class resorts....
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Iucounu posted:He was until recently: welp I'm voting for him.
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Trump doesn't need a cane, please. That would make him look weak. Also, no top hat, why would he want to cover his glorious coiffureover?
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Important Iowa State Fair health notice.
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Christie's crushin' it (the boardwalk (because he's fat (that's the joke))).
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i like how he keeps his rolls tucked discreetly into his pants (his fat rolls(which are bad to have))
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Neurolimal posted:Something about UK Labour politics This apparently happened quote:Hillary Clinton's campaign circulated a memo to top allies in Washington this week with an unmistakably Obama-esque theme: Don't worry, we've got this. http://www.vox.com/2015/8/13/9148623/clinton-memo-biden-running
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I'm wondering how long the fringe candidates are going to stay in this race. Part of me thinks "ALL THE WAY", but that's crazy, right? Surely Pataki and Gilmore at least will realize the whole thing's been pointless, right? In a logical world, Graham, Pataki, Gilmore, Perry and Jindal drop out by November, narrowing the race to a more manageable 12. And then maybe Rand Paul sees the writing on the wall, Carson flames out ala Herman Cain, and Santorum realizes he's not winning Iowa. And Christie sees that his poll numbers in NH are sub-5%, and falls on his sword. Then we have 8 candidates, the ones that actually make sense to be in the race. Cruz to rep the crazies, Fiorina to hit Hillary and appeal to business dorks, Kasich to be the compassionate conservative, Huckster to rep the evangelicals who maybe don't want the poor to completely starve, Jeb Rubio and Walker to be the mainstream choices, and Trump to Trump.
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Jesus, OM! can't even eat Fair Food right. You're supposed to look like an idiot, that's why people pay any attention, Littlefinger. Who's the lady to his left that looks like a girl I went to High School with?
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