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Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009
Haven't played in years, since war thunder was a thing I think, and whilst I maintain that the combat in WT is overwhelmingly better, gajin are if anything worse than wargaming and I have realised that what I am really looking for in these kind of games is organised team play, plus I have premium time now from WOWS. I used to have huge amounts of fun back in the day with companies and clan battles. Unfortunately as I understand it all goon EU clans are defunct, at least as far as anything larger than a platoon goes. I've never played with pubbies in WoT before, does anyone have any advice how to find decent people to play with?

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Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT

Mans posted:

a lot of people get this idea that they just need to sell their tanks when they unlock the next one and immediatly buy it, like there's this compulsive order that you need to always be grinding.

That's compulsion is even more fun when you don't sell tanks but end up keeping most of them because they are not completely unredeemable. :shepicide:

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Rincewinds posted:

That's compulsion is even more fun when you don't sell tanks but end up keeping most of them because they are not completely unredeemable. :shepicide:

That's why I have about 100 tanks! :smith:

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars

Kuntz posted:

Okay, just bought the AMX CDC on sale, pimped it out, got a new female crew on it, let's see what this baby can do.



I gotta ask though, is it prone to getting set on fire from the front, or does it have big engine and gas tank hitboxes? I'm thinking of running Coffee on it.

In my experience, no. It does however have a frontal ammo rack.

Blindeye
Sep 22, 2006

I can't believe I kissed you!

Kuntz posted:

Okay, just bought the AMX CDC on sale, pimped it out, got a new female crew on it, let's see what this baby can do.



I gotta ask though, is it prone to getting set on fire from the front, or does it have big engine and gas tank hitboxes? I'm thinking of running Coffee on it.

All I know is I have started using HE on it in my IS with hilarious results. Dat alpha.

sarr
Mar 24, 2008

Praise the Sun!

The Unlife Aquatic posted:

In my experience, no. It does however have a frontal ammo rack.

This times a thousand. I enjoy my CDC but dear god I've lost count how many times this has happened.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Don't use your repair kit for anything other than repairing that rack.

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business
So uh the T95... yeah. 12k WN8 game.

Yeah.





Replay: http://wotreplays.com/site/2086904#malinovka-mesadoram-t95

Youtube Link would be here if my computer wasn't poo poo.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Mesadoram posted:

So uh the T95... yeah. 12k WN8 game.

Yeah.





Replay: http://wotreplays.com/site/2086904#malinovka-mesadoram-t95

Youtube Link would be here if my computer wasn't poo poo.

Ah, the T95 experience.
While it might be slow as gently caress it is one of the few tanks in the game that can do poo poo like this.

Desuwa
Jun 2, 2011

I'm telling my mommy. That pubbie doesn't do video games right!
Welp, got my E-75. Thing can punch well above its weight class, which is already pretty high, but I'm unsure whether I'll prefer it to the 111 1-4 which is much faster with the same gun.

Not sure what to do with the third equipment slot. I've got a GLD on there now because I'm poor and had one lying around, but I'm almost tempted to put optics on it. It had 400 base view range, is pretty slow, but is probably going to survive to end of of a lot of games.

Rorac
Aug 19, 2011

I saw a quick review on the new Japanese heavy tanks by QB eariler today.



God help me those actually look like something I'll play.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Desuwa posted:

Welp, got my E-75. Thing can punch well above its weight class, which is already pretty high, but I'm unsure whether I'll prefer it to the 111 1-4 which is much faster with the same gun.

Not sure what to do with the third equipment slot. I've got a GLD on there now because I'm poor and had one lying around, but I'm almost tempted to put optics on it. It had 400 base view range, is pretty slow, but is probably going to survive to end of of a lot of games.

Optics lets you carry and GLD doesn't do anything with VStab already equipped. You'll win games you could not possibly win otherwise with Optics while also picking up a lot of extra XP from spotting damage and spotting your own targets.

Use Optics.

also 5x weekends -



imagine this but every battle one side or the other just never bothers to fire their guns, every loving battle forever.

Hellsau fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Aug 16, 2015

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

Mesadoram posted:

So uh the T95... yeah. 12k WN8 game.

Yeah.





Replay: http://wotreplays.com/site/2086904#malinovka-mesadoram-t95

Youtube Link would be here if my computer wasn't poo poo.

It won't last. 13km/hr offers you just about no tactical flexibility, which basically limits you to base defense, crawling to a nearby chokepoint, or mopping up. Occasionally those can work if the enemy team is cooperative, but it is a pretty lousy way to play if you ask me.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

unlawfulsoup posted:

It won't last. 13km/hr offers you just about no tactical flexibility, which basically limits you to base defense, crawling to a nearby chokepoint, or mopping up. Occasionally those can work if the enemy team is cooperative, but it is a pretty lousy way to play if you ask me.

Well you don't play the T95 for tactical flexibility , you play it for exactly the kind of game mesadoram got. The T95 is an unique experience in a good and bad way, and when the stars align the T95 is magical.
If tactical flexibility was the only requirement for a fun game, this game would be world of Russian/US medium tanks instead.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Yo, should I grab snap shot on my BT-7 artillery gunner before camo?
Can't really gauge the ninja-ness of the think yet and since it's arty, I didn't expect much to begin with.

Having a bunch of fun in this thing, by the way. Platoons of three should also be pretty funny. Heck, even when dumped in a tier V match, you can screw with people.

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


The BT-7a is more fun than any right it has to. It's on par with the IC in my books for best tier iii light.

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004
I haven't played this in about two years. Now that I'm able to play it again, I'm thinking of picking it up. What's changed? Is it basically the same as it was?

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
It plays pretty much the same as ever but with more tanks and some new or changed maps.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

I haven't played this in about two years. Now that I'm able to play it again, I'm thinking of picking it up. What's changed? Is it basically the same as it was?

Overall the maps are better, the player base is worse due to personal missions, and you should stay away.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Missing Name posted:

The BT-7a is more fun than any right it has to. It's on par with the IC in my books for best tier iii light.

The Pz 1C had a more clearly defined gimmick I felt. With the BT-7a, I still haven't quite figured out which gimmick to go with. Currently, I'm alternating between luck-based doom-sniping from afar after switching positions rapidly and basically being a raider that preselects easy targets (open-topped things are my favorite) and then jets in for a few point-blank shots while zipping by or around them.

I've decided against retraining a crew for it so now I'm trying to figure out whether to specialize in one role by dumping the vents and camo net in favor of optics and binocs and then getting smooth ride/clutch breaking on the driver, snapshot on the loader. On the other hand, keep the vents and camo net plus full camo training on the crew (still kinda eyeballing snap shot).

Basically, someone with less World of Tanks ringrust please tell me what to stick on my BT-7a and how to play it. :shobon:

M.C. McMic
Nov 8, 2008

The Weight room
Is your friend

Kuntz posted:

Okay, just bought the AMX CDC on sale, pimped it out, got a new female crew on it, let's see what this baby can do.



I gotta ask though, is it prone to getting set on fire from the front, or does it have big engine and gas tank hitboxes? I'm thinking of running Coffee on it.

I haven't been set on fire yet in the CDC, but the ammo rack gets damaged quite often.

Could you post this replay? I'm curious to see how you played El Halluf. (If anyone else has any good CDC replays, feel free to post them up too)

I'm improving, but I'm still terrible in the CDC.

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004

Hellsau posted:

Overall the maps are better, the player base is worse due to personal missions, and you should stay away.

I thought you'd like to play together and reminisce about our days in CRABS :emo:

If nothing else I'll have to pop in to see how the maps have changed and check out the new tanks. It would be nice to get yelled at by some old friends for a while.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

I put Safe Stowage on the loader I stuck into my new CDC. I hope that helps.

Should I have Safe Stowage on my BatChat crew somewhere?

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

Cardiac posted:

Well you don't play the T95 for tactical flexibility , you play it for exactly the kind of game mesadoram got. The T95 is an unique experience in a good and bad way, and when the stars align the T95 is magical.
If tactical flexibility was the only requirement for a fun game, this game would be world of Russian/US medium tanks instead.

Playing it for the 1/50 game is not exactly fun for most people.

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

Rorac posted:

I saw a quick review on the new Japanese heavy tanks by QB eariler today.



God help me those actually look like something I'll play.

Tier 5 doesn't look that great, but at tier 6 you can turn it into a fat KV-2. Or it can use a gun similar to the 105 on a KT, just without a gold shell for some reason.

Tiers 9 and 10 are actually alright, they play like E-100s/Maus, just without a logical armor layout. SPG players are going to have a field day with those in a match though. One of those on Malinkova will have an extremely bad day.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.
e: problem solved

Hellsau fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Aug 16, 2015

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?



This thing is so much fun.
People either don't perceive you as a threat because in higher tier matches, pubbies just drive mindlessly into fire and in lower tier matches they never even attempt to aim and thus hit jacksquat.

Desuwa
Jun 2, 2011

I'm telling my mommy. That pubbie doesn't do video games right!

Bort Bortles posted:

I put Safe Stowage on the loader I stuck into my new CDC. I hope that helps.

Should I have Safe Stowage on my BatChat crew somewhere?

Safe stowage is the only loader-specific perk or skill that's worth anything. It isn't as critical as sixth sense but always get it first on the loader.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Desuwa posted:

Safe stowage is the only loader-specific perk or skill that's worth anything. It isn't as critical as sixth sense but always get it first on the loader.

The rub here though is that on the Batchat the commander and gunner are the loaders, so you have to sacrifice a commander or gunner skill for Safe Stowage or have a crew with 4 or more skills.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost
After driving off a cliff so I could pancake a bulldog with my Panther II today, I came to the realization that I just can't help it, I will drive my cliff off a tank to land on another tank 100% of the time

Steelion
Aug 2, 2009

unlawfulsoup posted:

Playing it for the 1/50 game is not exactly fun for most people.

If it was that bad I wouldn't have a 62% win rate in the thing :v:

WayAbvPar
Mar 11, 2009

Ah- Smug Mode.

Mirthless posted:

After driving off a cliff so I could pancake a bulldog with my Panther II today, I came to the realization that I just can't help it, I will drive my cliff off a tank to land on another tank 100% of the time

This is the only thing to do. Never don't goomba.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Steelion posted:

If it was that bad I wouldn't have a 62% win rate in the thing :v:

60% in my T95 and incidentally same as I did in the T30. 300 lower average damage though for obvious reasons.

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!
I have a 69% winrate in my T95 but I still think it is an irredeemable pile of garbage that is a festering sore on the US TD line. If I had to choose one tank as being the worst in this game it is the T95, period.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost
Watching that replay honestly gave me a headache. It's an awesome game and must have been rad to get the opportunity to play to the tank's strengths like that but I can't imagine playing a tank that moves that slow willingly. I can already barely stand to play my Jagdtiger 8.8 and it's still twice as fast as the T95

Steelion
Aug 2, 2009
Personally, I had a lot of fun with my T95. Not enough to keep it, but it's definitely in the upper ranks as far as tanks I've driven.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
BT-7 Artillery

The interbellum period was a time when armoured forces were actively pondering the meaning of their existence. Many types of tank were invented by 1920, among which was the support tank. This tank was created because 37-57 mm guns on vehicles of the time were useful for fighting infantry and sometimes enemy tanks, but were insufficient against even light fortifications.

All tank-building nations developed this kind of tank. The British installed a 94 mm howitzer on the Medium Tank MkI. The Germans picked a 75 mm short-barrelled gun for the experimental Grosstraktor, assuming that it will be enough to complete its tasks. The Soviet Union did not remain an observer either.

BT-7 Artillery, not to be confused with BT-7A

Two prototypes among Soviet tanks of the early 1930s require a closer look. One was a project by a self-taught engineer Nikolai Dyrenkov, built in metal. This was a BT-2 with a new turret and a 76 mm gun. The vehicle underwent testing, but it was discovered that the turret was too small for the crew to work in it. The project was shut down. Experiments with 76 mm guns continued on the chassis of the T-26 light tank, and they got quite far. A second prototype appeared, the T-26-4. After that, the BT was abandoned as a platform for a 76 mm gun, but not for long.

In 1934, the Kharkov Locomotive Factory began work on the BT-7 tank. At first, designers proposed that it should be armed with a 76 mm gun in a new turret. However, the prototype turned out to be as cramped as Dyrenkov's design. The BT-7 entered production with the same turret as its predecessor and the same 45 mm gun.

The idea to put a more powerful gun into the BT-7 remained, especially since the T-26-4 project was promising, and even made it to a trial production batch of 5 tanks.

The designers had a logical idea: combine the hull of one tank and the turret of another. HPZ already had experience with the T-26, since the BT-7 with a large caliber gun was developed on the basis of the T-26 artillery tank project. In April of 1935, one turret was sent to Kharkov. The design was changed a little and installed on the BT-7 hull. In October of 1935, the prototype was sent to trials. Modern sources refer to this tank as the BT-7A, but this is incorrect. That index was used to refer to early BT-7 vehicles. The vehicle with a 76 mm gun was called "BT-7 Artillery".

Trials went successfully, but the fate of the tank hung by a thread. This happened due to an accident on September 19th, 1935 with one of the T-26-4 vehicles, where gunpowder gases ruptured the gun breech during trials. Even though the KT-28 was a temporary gun choice and would have been replaced with a more modern gun, this incident caused the termination of the T-26-4 project.

The "lucky seven" was more fortunate. Work never ceased, and the tank eventually made it to mass production.

Brief Life at Peace and War

The first batch of BT-7 Artillery tanks was assembled in late August of 1937. In January of 1938, there were over 150 of them, not that many, but a shortage of KT-28 guns caused production to stop. The cause was pretty common for the time: the gun was removed from production, and no adequate replacement was found. This was the end of the first Soviet artillery tank. 132 vehicles were used by the army, supplementing regular BT-7s. One other vehicle was used as a mount for experimental weapons.

The last burst of activity around the BT-7 Artillery happened in 1940, when Vasiliy Grabin's F-32 gun entered production. It was meant for the perspective KV and A-34 (future T-34) tanks. The military decided that there should be no reason for this new weapon to skirt existing designs. It was planned that the BT-7 Artillery would receive new guns in 1941, if not with first priority. The start of the war interfered with these plans.

On June 1st, 1941, 122 vehicles of this type were in military service, most of them in the Kiev Military District. Due to their small numbers, BT-7 Artillery tanks left nothing behind but photos of wrecks and records of written off vehicles. The last of these tanks fought in the Battle of Moscow in November of 1941. The 58th Tank Division arrived from the Far East with these types of tanks. It lost almost all of them in only a few days of fighting at Volokolamsk.

Despite its difficult history, the BT-7 Artillery was an important step in Soviet tank building. It was the first mass production vehicle that could be put in the SPG class. The KV-2 was built in 1940 according to a similar principle. As with the BT-7 Artillery, its job was to aid its forces in breaking through enemy fortifications.

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

unlawfulsoup posted:

I have a 69% winrate in my T95 but I still think it is an irredeemable pile of garbage that is a festering sore on the US TD line. If I had to choose one tank as being the worst in this game it is the T95, period.

Wrong, it's the Valentine.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Wrong, it's the Valentine.

Can a low tier tank ever really be "the worst tank", though? I mean, at least you're not stuck in it for hundreds of thousands of XP

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Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Mirthless posted:

Can a low tier tank ever really be "the worst tank", though? I mean, at least you're not stuck in it for hundreds of thousands of XP

The T95 has a particular playstyle that works for it at least. It's an unrewarding playstyle, but you know what can you do and should do, and if you do it you can win.

The Valentine is just poo poo at everything. There's nothing you can do in that tank to be an effective player.

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