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Quidthulhu
Dec 17, 2003

Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Is anyone really "good" at mafia, though?

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hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

Opopanax posted:

The people here are bad enough with a $10 entry fee, I don't really want to see what a cross community game looks like

Well, just look at the 2+2 threads.

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

We have a reputation of being bitter and cynical about stuff

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

We have a reputation of being bitter and cynical about stuff

Well earned.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

We have a reputation of being bitter and cynical about stuff
well we did pay to post here

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

We have a reputation of being bitter and cynical about stuff

I wonder who gives us that rep, as we are behind a paywall and such.

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Probably our recoil every time we are exposed to the world behind the wall

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

Probably our recoil every time we are exposed to the world behind the wall

They don't take too kindly to us, either. There were constant shitstorms when tumblr people made a shitload of obvious shared accounts to get over the paywall to read the Dangan Ronpa 2 LP.

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
the amy schumer show is v good and i recommend it to people who like to watch things.

good day.

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
oh, uh, trigger warning i guess

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Quidnose posted:

Is anyone really "good" at mafia, though?

No one is good at mafia, we are all just differing degrees of bad

Quidthulhu
Dec 17, 2003

Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Rarity posted:

No one is good at mafia, we are all just differing degrees of bad

New thread title

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Except me, I'm great at mafia

Quidthulhu
Dec 17, 2003

Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Wait, who's parachute account are you again?

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Rarity posted:

Except me, I'm great at mafia

I should have got you and asiina to play the temple game rather than j and a

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
the secret to being 'good' at mafia: :justpost:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

I should have got you and asiina to play the temple game rather than j and a

It woulda been great when I got her lynched :ese:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Quidnose posted:

Wait, who's parachute account are you again?

Opop

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now
I consider merk and Tom Tucker to be the only two players superior to me in mafia ability.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
I am bad at Mafia.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

I should have got you and asiina to play the temple game rather than j and a

I considered asking but then ehhhhhhh

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
i dont even know how we manage to post in here with eccos head taking up all this room

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

The best mafia player is soscannonballs imo

E: actually PoP I remember being really good

Jump King fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Aug 16, 2015

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Also last time I played a game with Ecco they were a conspicuous scum player who got mad at being cased for the wrong reasons. Then after the game ended they blamed their scum buddies for the loss.

:shrug:

Ecco strikes me as more of a town player though

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
Sometimes Mafia means not embarrassing idiots and that's something we should all keep in mind.

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

Also last time I played a game with Ecco they were a conspicuous scum player who got mad at being cased for the wrong reasons. Then after the game ended they blamed their scum buddies for the loss.
I "got mad at you" for casing me so you'd stop casing me (which you did). Very few players thought I was actually scum by the end of the game, and we'd have won easily but for an unfortunate cop investigation (made by a player who thought I was town).

I didn't blame my scumbuddy, I said they made some tactical errors but that ultimately it was the clutch cop investigation that shot us down. The scumbuddy then got mad at me.

s h r u g

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Sometimes I'm a good mafia player and sometimes I just don't give a poo poo. I feel bad about those times but sometimes for whatever reason a game just doesn't click with me and I find my eyes glazing over reading posts.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Also yeah while I do consider our downfall to be primarily ecco's fault, I don't think she was being mean post-game. I was the one who was mad in that situation.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



Truth

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Ah my mistake.

On a related note I wish I didn't always spread myself too thin while playing mafia because it leads to dumb stuff like that game and the WIFOA one where I had the scum team picked out, was night killed and then town lost anyway

E: I think I have one of the lowest win rates among active players

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now

Asiina posted:

Also yeah while I do consider our downfall to be primarily ecco's fault, I don't think she was being mean post-game. I was the one who was mad in that situation.

You had every right to be! I should have been more tactful with my comment. We all put in a lot of energy into that game and it was frustrating to see it slip through our fingers like that.

It's also convince me to limit/eliminate cops in my games, since they just seem like such wildcards, and they just feel like they take away a lot of the spirit of the game.

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Cops are poo poo I agree

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

You know what's better than a cop? 4 trackers

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

You know what's better than a cop? 4 trackers

Trackers (but NOT watchers) are a very valid substitute for cops. Two trackers per standard cop imo.

I also would like to get back to the world of having games with one cop with a non-sane sanity, but they assume they are sane. If every fourth game had a naive cop and nothing else, that would be quite nice.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
i think mafia is best when you provide players with roles that actively diminish their agency.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Different sanities is the absolute worst thing.

Things that come from the mod should be taken as fact.

There can be other roles that alter results like godfathers/millers or redirectors, but just natively having your cop be wrong is both boring and just the mod jerking the players around.

I would rather have a Jester in my game than a non-sane cop.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

Somberbrero posted:

i think mafia is best when you provide players with roles that actively diminish their agency.

i base this on game theory.

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Insane cop but everybody is a miller or a godfather

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

Insane cop but everybody is a miller or a godfather

That'd be a fun 5 person game. 3 millers, a godfather, and an insane cop.

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EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now
I think if most players treated cops with more skepticism and treated their results as just "indicative but not dispositive," the game overall would be better. Players would rely less and less on following roles and more on player behavior.

Roles are nice and fun but ultimately limit player agency, not expand it.

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