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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

evilweasel posted:

stop replying to the ape, you're making it think its people

no, i want him to regale us with tales of harry potter and lusting after children

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surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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trucutru posted:

It makes sense of you realize that libertarians don't actually give a poo poo about their ideology and only care about the money.

As it currently stands bitcoin is an useless piece of poo poo. And there is no money for a guy like thermos in it or any improved version (cuz it takes a lot of dough to mine). But, since it is crap, there is money in centralized services that run on top of it.

Just follow the money and you'll see that theymos is heavily invested in stuff like (the centralized) lightning network and you can bet your rear end that they, and many other bitcoin 2.0 companies, pay him to shill their solutions. Just like bashco gets money from the tip place.

it's super easy to figure out who has a vested interest, except for a couple cases of software 1.0 best software fundamentalists, anyone who's against a larger throughput in txs (therefore lower fees & higher opex) has a toe in the infrastructure side

miners got the poo poo beat out of them ever since the asic arms race started, but at least they had a built in bonus while the hash rate was climbing like mad since the blocks came in quite quicker than in 10 minute intervals, which also had the effect of artificially raising the network throughput

things have been slowing down lately, though



target daily new bitcoins: 25 * 6 * 24 = 3,600
365 day average, daily: 3709.7 (+3.05%)
180 day average, daily: 3639.0 (+1.08%)
90 day & 30 day are around +1% too

a couple extra points might not make a huge difference, but it might be what's needed to keep you positive, barely

meanwhile tx fees have gone up



that mid-july onwards bump was the network spam, which i have a feeling might've been done by mining pool operators. all you need is a decent net % of the total network's operator to pitch in some pocket change (which they'll mostly get back anyway) into a central pot and that raises everyone's fees

too lazy to run numbers, but my gut feeling is that even if a fraction of the operators collude (ie excluding f2pool, the top 2 pools caught 34% of the recent blocks, top 3 46%, top 4 54%) the crossover between opex losses with unrecoverable fees vs net gains in global fees is probably quite easy to achieve.

bumping blocks up to 8mb or whatever might seem silly when they're transmitting 500-750k ones right now, but that opens up a whole lotta slots for free traffic and it adds a lot more legroom that makes fee rising attacks much more expensive, relatively

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
bitcoin: we can't have bigger blocks because it might lead to lower fees :ohdear:

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
No; we can't have bigger blocks because that allows low/no fee transactions to go through BUT I WAS HERE FIRST AND THESE ARE MY TOYS AND gently caress YOU FOR WANTING TO USE BITOCOIN AS A POOR BECAUSE THIS IS THE NEW ***GOLD*** GO PLAY WITH YOUR DUMB SILVER DOGE

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

lowtax accepts bitcoin for reregs if you can prove your libertarian loyalty

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

it always comes back to butts, doesn't it.

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/author/cameron-gray/

look at all of his articles. what a shocker that he's a burner

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


if the butts fork do we have to fork this thread too?

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Happy Noodle Boy posted:

if the butts fork do we have to fork this thread too?

there's already the grey thread fork

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

surebet posted:

there's already the grey thread fork

pls ban for talking about thread forks

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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blugu64 posted:

pls ban for talking about thread forks

WHO'S PAYING YOU, SHILL??

quelfromage
Mar 31, 2013

Boxturret posted:

he didn't say anything about horribly uncharismatic leaders :mrgw:

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!
buttcoinfoundation.org is currently down, page reads as "Hacked by Hunt3r Sum0n from Cyb3r Gl@diat0rs."

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

Captain_Maclaine posted:

buttcoinfoundation.org is currently down, page reads as "Hacked by Hunt3r Sum0n from Cyb3r Gl@diat0rs."

rip

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
when do you start accepting donations for the new buttcoin software op?

OhsH
Jan 12, 2008
yeah, rip

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


unpacked robinhood posted:

bitcoin is a cyber punk drama but not quite the one bitcoiners dreamed about

cyber pump and dump

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

buttcoinfoundation.org is currently down, page reads as "Hacked by Hunt3r Sum0n from Cyb3r Gl@diat0rs."

not for me it isn't, but maybe it's just the cloudflare cache

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
works for me, although I got a cloudflare interstitial page first

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
getting hacked just adds more authenticity to the bitcoin experience anyways

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Shouldn't have upgraded past 1.0

PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

posting on page 7

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

infernal machines posted:

not for me it isn't, but maybe it's just the cloudflare cache

it seems to be back now but it was real

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

Has this been posted yet?
https://youtu.be/1F1YyDPZLX8?t=361

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Boxturret posted:

it seems to be back now but it was real


Yeah that's what I saw, though it appears to be back now. :iiam:

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Boxturret posted:

it seems to be back now but it was real


geez, kids these days can't even hack a website right. whatever happened to giant ascii death's heads and pages that were down for days?

My PIN is 4826
Aug 30, 2003

time to start buttcoinXT.org

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Boxturret posted:

it seems to be back now but it was real


there was a butt here, but now its gone

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

jetz0r posted:

there was a butt here, but now its gone
:rip: rotor

Greyhawk
May 30, 2001


not a cult

quote:

[–]Fiach_Dubh 3 points 3 hours ago*
This is it what separates the boys from the men. Trial by fire. The fact that we have even gotten to this point is incredible, and we couldn't have done it without the developers. You guys are the men on the front lines and I respect your fortitude. There's a lot of fire out there, the stakes are high, but you can handle it. Because your a man. men handle their poo poo. Your a bad-rear end pioneer for the currency of the future, never forget that. Men will sing songs of your feats in years to come. May Thor guide your spirit to victory, and Oden keep your hearts, strong, calm and peaceful as his seas.
Onward Men!

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Greyhawk posted:

not a cult

Oden (おでん?) is a Japanese winter dish consisting of several ingredients such as boiled eggs, daikon, konjac, and processed fishcakes stewed in a light, soy-flavoured dashi broth.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
Isn't all this backstabbing and bickering about bitcoin XT totally pointless because the only thing that matters is what the Chinese miners want to do?

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

theflyingorc posted:

Oden (おでん?) is a Japanese winter dish consisting of several ingredients such as boiled eggs, daikon, konjac, and processed fishcakes stewed in a light, soy-flavoured dashi broth.
is it good for your heart though

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

Mercury_Storm posted:

Isn't all this backstabbing and bickering about bitcoin XT totally pointless because the only thing that matters is what the Chinese miners want to do?

yes, but the Captains of Industry don't want to admit that to themselves

killhamster
Apr 15, 2004

SCAMMER
Hero Member

Seraph84 posted:

As expected, this thread has devolved rapidly in my absence.

i don't think you "get" this thread

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

killhamster posted:

don't think you

do agree i, op

Dr. Honked
Jan 9, 2011

eat it you slaaaaaaag

killhamster posted:

i don't think you "get" this thread

penicularly disadvantaged ginger midget child fucker doesn't even like how

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

killhamster posted:

i don't think you "get" this thread

he has no problem whining about the thread elsewhere

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3735644&pagenumber=41&perpage=40#post449087052

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



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Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

he has a point, internet detectiving is kinda dumb and creepy[/sig]

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