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autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe

Delta Echo posted:

Compared to the author using the wrong shoes or shuffling their feet, no. The scenario I imagine is novice runner wearing Pumas at 24 hour fitness. You know, the casual line of Pumas.

Treadmills are high impact for the exercise. Running is decent outdoors, but in a fitness club, ellipticals or stair machines are a better choice. That's why I say novice runner.

I'm just a skeptic and I could be wrong.

It depends on the treadmill but you'd be lucky to get two years out of one at a reasonably popular gym before the brushes need replacing. My dad runs a fitness equipment repair business and a lot of his calls are about either treadmill belts or the antistatic brushes. There was an office that bought a mid-range treadmill designed for home use and they blew though the brushes in less than six months. I can totally believe that a poorly maintained gym at a military facility has treadmills that are all worn out.

The solution? If no one's going to actually fix it, us an antistatic wristband to the metal hand rails. There's also an antistatic spray you can use on the belt but it's not very effective.

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Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Nubile Hillock posted:

It depends on the treadmill but you'd be lucky to get two years out of one at a reasonably popular gym before the brushes need replacing. My dad runs a fitness equipment repair business and a lot of his calls are about either treadmill belts or the antistatic brushes. There was an office that bought a mid-range treadmill designed for home use and they blew though the brushes in less than six months. I can totally believe that a poorly maintained gym at a military facility has treadmills that are all worn out.

The solution? If no one's going to actually fix it, us an antistatic wristband to the metal hand rails. There's also an antistatic spray you can use on the belt but it's not very effective.

sure, military gym, all bets are off.

Do It Once Right posted:

How heavy are excavators and other heavy construction equipment? How much kinetic energy do they have traveling at highway speeds?






The answer is lots. Lots and lots. Enough to carve through steel reinforced concrete overpasses like warm butter.

The arm of that excavator is hyper extended backward, and when it was traveling it was leaning almost horizontally forward. It didn't cut through the overpass as much as it poked through it.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

IndianaZoidberg
Aug 21, 2011

My name isnt slick, its Zoidberg. JOHN F***ING ZOIDBERG!

Do It Once Right posted:

How heavy are excavators and other heavy construction equipment? How much kinetic energy do they have traveling at highway speeds?






The answer is lots. Lots and lots. Enough to carve through steel reinforced concrete overpasses like warm butter.

That's also a very expensive "oops". I'm not sure that bridge can be repaired after damage like that.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Pretty old, thread regular.

Never did find out what was in that container, though.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


WarpedNaba posted:

Pretty old, thread regular.

Never did find out what was in that container, though.

Looks like molten aluminum to me, since it's liquid without giving off any glow.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

This MURICA.gif ended surprisingly well.

https://i.imgur.com/TWEBWBG.gifv

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
Now that is my kinda place

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



I worked at a steel mill during college in a continuous caster. It's a like 5 story building were the pour steel down some things that might can be likened to waterslides.

My office was on the top floor, because thats the only place the offices for the caster were at. It was rad to come in at 7am while they were pouring a ladle or getting the ladle in position because the glow on ~3000F molten steel is something that you can only see in certain places.

Anyway, the ladle is the thing from that gif. Brought back memories.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

KoRMaK posted:

I worked at a steel mill during college in a continuous caster. It's a like 5 story building were the pour steel down some things that might can be likened to waterslides.

My office was on the top floor, because thats the only place the offices for the caster were at. It was rad to come in at 7am while they were pouring a ladle or getting the ladle in position because the glow on ~3000F molten steel is something that you can only see in certain places.

Anyway, the ladle is the thing from that gif. Brought back memories.

A steel plant in Hamilton had all their pipes insulated at the ceiling and clad with aluminum jacketing.

One observant engineer noted the melting point of aluminum and what the temps were of pouring liquid steel directly below them. Basically, if there was ever an incident, it would rain liquid aluminium balls from the ceiling as the cladding melts off.

They paid a company to come in and switch that out for galvanized steel. ;)

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


Don't gently caress with molten metals, folks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A796N_YZTm8
Or cold/wet ingot molds.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
So what exactly happened there? I'm guessing there was a tiny drop of water in the mold and it caused a miniature steam explosion?

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

haveblue posted:

So what exactly happened there? I'm guessing there was a tiny drop of water in the mold and it caused a miniature steam explosion?

It doesn't even have to be a drop. Any trapped moisture can cause this, so you preheat your molds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl64_nI7A14&t=85s

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Lurking Haro posted:

It doesn't even have to be a drop. Any trapped moisture can cause this, so you preheat your molds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl64_nI7A14&t=85s

Apparently that on a larger scale:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RYCXDUt2m8

Although seems its the ladle thats wet in this.

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


dr_rat posted:

Apparently that on a larger scale:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RYCXDUt2m8

Although seems its the ladle thats wet in this.

A comment from the vid:

quote:

Wet charges happen a lot in steel mills. They may grab a magnet for the crane and clean up the scrap that got blown out and may interfere with them running again but usually things keep rolling right along. The longer that furnace sits, the colder it gets and the more electric and money its gonna take to get it up over 3000F.

gently caress me. Industry is loving crazy. Let's leave this to robots and all get white collar jobs.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Nth Doctor posted:

Don't gently caress with molten metals, folks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A796N_YZTm8
Or cold/wet ingot molds.

Why didn't they go straight for the fire extinguisher?! :magical:

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

Why didn't they go straight for the fire extinguisher?! :magical:

Well, they tried to blow it out :supaburn:

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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I've worked in various industrial settings but nothing ever seems to have the scale of a steel plant.

I want to visit a steel plant.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Nth Doctor posted:

A comment from the vid:


gently caress me. Industry is loving crazy. Let's leave this to robots and all get white collar jobs.

I heard a story about a guy who fell into the ladel as it was being poured.



They kept pouring, or at least reused the steel, and gave the wife an ignot or something. They couldn't let the steel cool in the ladel, its like a couple hundred tons of product!

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
aren't humans half water? seems like a bad idea

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme


Arrested Development Season 5 looking horrifying! :stare:

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

KoRMaK posted:

I heard a story about a guy who fell into the ladel as it was being poured.



They kept pouring, or at least reused the steel, and gave the wife an ignot or something. They couldn't let the steel cool in the ladel, its like a couple hundred tons of product!

Did she bury the ingot or keep it on her mantel?

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

KoRMaK posted:

I heard a story about a guy who fell into the ladel as it was being poured.



They kept pouring, or at least reused the steel, and gave the wife an ignot or something. They couldn't let the steel cool in the ladel, its like a couple hundred tons of product!

He would have floated on top of the much, much more dense molten metal. This is also what happens when you fall onto molten lava: you sink into it like an inch or two at most, because humans are only a little more dense than water, and molten lava (or steel) is a hell of a lot more dense than that.

I mean, I'm sure he died very quickly and burned like a fireball as all his bodily water steamed off and his body fat flashed to vapor etc. etc, it would not have been pretty if you could see through all the smoke, but I expect most of him could have been just scraped off the surface of the metal the same way you'd scrape off slag.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Leperflesh posted:

He would have floated on top of the much, much more dense molten metal. This is also what happens when you fall onto molten lava: you sink into it like an inch or two at most, because humans are only a little more dense than water, and molten lava (or steel) is a hell of a lot more dense than that.

I mean, I'm sure he died very quickly and burned like a fireball as all his bodily water steamed off and his body fat flashed to vapor etc. etc, it would not have been pretty if you could see through all the smoke, but I expect most of him could have been just scraped off the surface of the metal the same way you'd scrape off slag.
Yea.

He basically vaporized and turned into slag, or so the story went.

Metal as hell

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Leperflesh posted:

He would have floated on top of the much, much more dense molten metal. This is also what happens when you fall onto molten lava: you sink into it like an inch or two at most, because humans are only a little more dense than water, and molten lava (or steel) is a hell of a lot more dense than that.

You can also do this with mercury without instantly bursting into flames and dying (you'll die later on from heavy metal poisoning).

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Carbon dioxide posted:

This MURICA.gif ended surprisingly well.

https://i.imgur.com/TWEBWBG.gifv

Parallel parking like a loving BOSS, in a semi, after jumping a dirt ramp...that ruled :patriot:

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



dr_rat posted:

Apparently that on a larger scale:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RYCXDUt2m8

Although seems its the ladle thats wet in this.

In the related links, here's one where the automation systems appear to be just pouring molten metal everywhere. I'm guessing. The description doesn't say anything other than "equipment failure".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Zp3GGLZgM

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

flosofl posted:

In the related links, here's one where the automation systems appear to be just pouring molten metal everywhere. I'm guessing. The description doesn't say anything other than "equipment failure".

Hey I really don't think we have enough information to for certain call this an equipment failure. Maybe it was just designed to random try and burn down large parts of what ever steel work it was installed.

If so it was working perfectly!

Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!

flosofl posted:

In the related links, here's one where the automation systems appear to be just pouring molten metal everywhere. I'm guessing. The description doesn't say anything other than "equipment failure".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Zp3GGLZgM

That has to be so loving hot. Why are the dudes hanging around that?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Pingiivi posted:

That has to be so loving hot. Why are the dudes hanging around that?

Because Russia.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Pingiivi posted:

That has to be so loving hot. Why are the dudes hanging around that?

is fine, is supposed to do that da

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Blyad!

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

flosofl posted:

In the related links, here's one where the automation systems appear to be just pouring molten metal everywhere. I'm guessing. The description doesn't say anything other than "equipment failure".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Zp3GGLZgM

The one guy in the background calling the operator a loving idiot.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Working in a steel mill in Russia has the same burn injury rate as living in hell.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Leperflesh posted:

He would have floated on top of the much, much more dense molten metal. This is also what happens when you fall onto molten lava: you sink into it like an inch or two at most, because humans are only a little more dense than water, and molten lava (or steel) is a hell of a lot more dense than that.

I mean, I'm sure he died very quickly and burned like a fireball as all his bodily water steamed off and his body fat flashed to vapor etc. etc, it would not have been pretty if you could see through all the smoke, but I expect most of him could have been just scraped off the surface of the metal the same way you'd scrape off slag.

That'd be true for a still pool of liquid, but with a pour in progress, heh, seems like good conditions to have a uniform high carbon steel.

Happens often enough, it seems:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566987/Japanese-plant-worker-dies-13-tonnes-molten-metal-heated-1-300C-spilled-him.html
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1994-04-23/news/1994113032_1_wayne-thompson-beth-steel-molten-metal
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17075481

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!



From the first link:

quote:

Father-of-two Allen Wardle, 52, lived for six hours despite suffering 100 per cent burns when he fell into a vat of molten zinc at a factory in Witham, Essex, in 1998.
:stonk:

stuxracer
May 4, 2006

That Dirty Jobs episode at I think a steel mill when his face shield started melting was cool.

Bethamphetamine
Oct 29, 2012

Nth Doctor posted:

From the first link:
:stonk:

If I have burns over 100% of my body after falling into molten zinc, please just loving kill me.
I don't think I'd rate those 6 hours very high on my list of stuff I want to experience in life before I die.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Nth Doctor posted:

From the first link:
:stonk:

Well, at least it was probably third-degree and killed all the nerves near the surface of his body. So he probably wasn't able to feel anything.

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CampingCarl
Apr 28, 2008




Do It Once Right posted:

If I have burns over 100% of my body after falling into molten zinc, please just loving kill me.
I don't think I'd rate those 6 hours very high on my list of stuff I want to experience in life before I die.
I would guess you would be unconscious for most of that time. Hopefully anyway.

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