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Plom Bar posted:Looks like no Paradox Space in the foreseeable future unless more people buy books. It's cool that they're looking to pay their creatives fairly, and understandable that they don't want the website to be a moneysink, but now I'm wondering where all those homestuck bux have been going (they've been going into the game). They've been going into drugs.
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Classtoise posted:Because ARquiusprite and half of Gamzee became part of Lord English. THIS ARquiusprite is in a universe with no half-Gamzee, so presumably it's still "old universe" ARquiusprite and Gamzee. Read the sequence again. That Gamzee was whole and got split at some point during the kid's future fight with Caliborn. Also BOTH Arquiussprites are in a universe with a full Gamzee. edit- by sequence I mean this. He's fine here and in two pieces two pages later. To recap: pre-retcon: Gamzee died. Pre-retcon ARqsprite presumably hitched a ride on Lowas to post-retcon, like Davesprite and Nannasprite. post-retcon: Gamzee alive- presumably goes to where/whenever Caliborn is, at some point in his future timeline, unless further shenanigans are revealed, then gets split in half and one half gets absorbed into Cal. Post-retcon Arquiussprite doing stuff. Pre-retcon Arquiussprite also doing stuff. Two sprites, one cap(ricorn) Mazerunner fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Aug 17, 2015 |
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Plom Bar posted:now I'm wondering where all those homestuck bux have been going (they've been going into the game). This is loud, and also from Dota 2, but immediately came to mind when I thought of what Hussie would spend his money on.
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SHISHKABOB posted:They've been going into drugs. They went into the Fairly Odd Gentlemen's pockets.
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Mazerunner posted:How does Gamzee have any effect on which of the two existing ARquiusprite do or do not do a thing. Well for Davepeta I just thought that an ARquius who has more of a personal attachment to someone would be less likely to become part of Lord English. Admittedly we don't know ARquius' motives when he jumped Caliborn, so perhaps he was just trying to be a hero. (In which case who even knows which ARquius it is) I just thought that pre retcon ARquius acted shadier than what we've seen of post retcon ARquius so far. Edit: Not to mention pre retcon ARquius completely hosed up apologizing to Nepeta.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:16
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The horse painting guy made a second painting and Andrew just had to get it.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:22
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Paperseverywhere (Adrienne Garcia) has put up an in-progress version of her current animation. She says it's about halfway done. *drat*. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ3KO4A1Y74
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Aug 17, 2015 21:46
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paradoxGentleman posted:I watched the first part of the Steam Train coverage of the new King's Quest, and I must grudgingly admit that it does look like a good and inspired game. If they manage even half of a good King's Quest game, they'll be doing infinitely better than Sierra ever did.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:58
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Prison Warden posted:If they manage even half of a good King's Quest game, they'll be doing infinitely better than Sierra ever did. King's Quest 6 was good.
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Aug 17, 2015 23:34
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Plom Bar posted:King's Quest 6 was good. how do you sleep at night
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I suppose it's always possible that Lord English has been retjohnned from ever coming into existence and the ending will be a homily on the theme of "just because people spent your entire childhood telling you what your life would be like doesn't mean they weren't totally wrong."
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Aug 17, 2015 23:50
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Lord English is in the furthest ring though, so retjohnning wouldn't actually negate his existence. In the same way that I'm pretty sure we saw there were two copies of alive aradia in vriska's Instagram flash.
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Random question, but since whatpumpkin went strictly game development, what happened to all the prints? One of my prints was damaged during a move and want to replace it, but I can't find any on the new welovefine store.
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Aug 18, 2015 04:53
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Between all the kings quest games there's at least half a game of decent stuff
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Milli posted:Random question, but since whatpumpkin went strictly game development, what happened to all the prints? One of my prints was damaged during a move and want to replace it, but I can't find any on the new welovefine store. They've said that they're still figuring out how to do prints on welovefine. Weloveine also doesn't have the God Tier hoodies yet.
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Plom Bar posted:(they've been going into the game). Well, it's not like the Kickstarter money went into the game.
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man a bunch of those dudes really suck!
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paranoid randroid posted:man a bunch of those dudes really suck! Well, I mean...it IS NeoGAF.
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ryan north got stuck in a hole today, and the internet had to send him commands to get him out. naturally, this has led to:
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Ryan North could never get stuck in any hole, given his unnatural tallness attribute.
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Aug 18, 2015 21:30
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Chompsky is a pro tier dog name. Almost as good as Karl Barx.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Chompsky is a pro tier dog name. Almost as good as Karl Barx. For more Chompsky, see this Lenovo commercial that Ryan North and Chompsky were in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN8O85z2UFM
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IMPORTANT: this hole, was it made for Ryan North?
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Can I have a moment of seriousness and say that after rewatching Terezi: Rememb8r that it is now definitely my favorite flash? There's an incredible sense of impending finality that just reassures me that Homestuck is actually finally ending and everything will be okay.
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pandaK posted:Can I have a moment of seriousness and say that after rewatching Terezi: Rememb8r that it is now definitely my favorite flash? There's an incredible sense of impending finality that just reassures me that Homestuck is actually finally ending and everything will be okay. Agreed. The whole lilypad sequence pulled a lot of character threads in, and then Rememb8r both brought more depth to Terezi and pushed us forward toward the end game. e: My favorite is still GAME OVER because of the number of plot threads it pulled together and then cut, dissolving me into tears. ee: Currently, the only absolutely known people (not counting LE) who remember the GAME OVER timeline are John, Roxy, Terezi, Davepetasprite, and ARquiussprite, right? I don't clearly recall if Rose herself has access to her former memories, or if that was only Rosesprite who did. Dirk was alive but splintered at the end of GAME OVER, but didn't travel into the RetJohn with John and Roxy. There's also pre-scratch Davesprite, if still alive, and any other pre-scratch sprites that haven't already gone megasprite. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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Aug 18, 2015 22:50
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None of that poo poo matters cause it's a flash about a bunch a dead nobodies who aren't important enough to be the real protagonists. It's a nice wrap up on plot lines for versions of characters that ultimately mean nothing or did nothing. So glad we got to see that Dave Corpse and Jade Corpse just look at each other.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:None of that poo poo matters cause it's a flash about a bunch a dead nobodies who aren't important enough to be the real protagonists. Fortunately, Ikimaru, who did the pictures for that section of the Flash, also did a fix-it sketch. http://ikimaru.tumblr.com/image/125221509710
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Agreed. The whole lilypad sequence pulled a lot of character threads in, and then Rememb8r both brought more depth to Terezi and pushed us forward toward the end game. pre-scratch davesprite IS davepetasprite there's also nannasprite, and jasprosesprite. If Rose does know it'd be from her seer of light powers but I dunno.
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Also I don't think we've seen for sure that ARquiusprite came through with the other sprites? Or Erisolsprite, he was also alive for Game Over.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:None of that poo poo matters cause it's a flash about a bunch a dead nobodies who aren't important enough to be the real protagonists. The comic itself acknowledges and explores the idea of people being "relevant", and more than a few characters suggest no version of a person is no more or less meaningful than any other. That whole sequence played on this idea to show how developments from the lost timeline were still important to the people who lived in it and current Terezi absorbing the memories of her past self to fuel important character realizations. C'mon man this is basic stuff here. In terms of raw plot advancement it is not the engine that Cascade, Game Over or Descend were, but in terms of audience catharsis by acknowledging seemingly-abandoned plot threads readers were invested in and providing closure on certain characters and relationships it's obviously going to be a big hit for a lot of people. I loved it even if none of it ever really "matters" to the working out of the plot. We also needed it for: which is 100% canon.
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WeLoveFine is having another T-shirt contest. The user interface is terrible. You have to browse an infinite-scroll list, and rating any individual design causes it to reload. (?!?!?!) Open in new window is in your friend. The art quality varies. But if you don't like at least one of this or this you have no soul and I do not want to know you.
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Dolash posted:The comic itself acknowledges and explores the idea of people being "relevant", and more than a few characters suggest no version of a person is no more or less meaningful than any other. That whole sequence played on this idea to show how developments from the lost timeline were still important to the people who lived in it and current Terezi absorbing the memories of her past self to fuel important character realizations. C'mon man this is basic stuff here. That's total bullshit though because then the plot of the comic itself goes on to name versions of characters as relevant or not because they're the ones with which the comic moves forward with. The entirety of the Retcon powers poo poo is Terezi, through John, stacking the right group of idiots in the right ways so that they can actually do anything about anything. It's the same bullshit of having Dave and Rose talk about how nobody really has a destiny or a role or arc or anything like that when the facts of the comic itself shows that without all that the characters we see would not exist at all. The game made them to make themselves and created roles and arcs and powers for the kids to get that would let them be able to influence change against forces they'd otherwise be without. Since it's all predetermined they wouldn't have that poo poo if they didn't fit those roles. And honestly at some point it kind of just feels like the author is floundering in spots here and there. A lot of plot points and arcs and story beats feel dropped for long stretches and then are summarily explained away in short bursts and that makes it seems the writer is just turning into the fact that a lot of poo poo was set up to go one way and then didn't go anywhere. I mean, there's a difference between a twist and just changing the story, which is fine to do but having the characters later just say "Actually we have no arcs, narrative form is dumb" just feels disingenuous at a point.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:That's total bullshit though because then the plot of the comic itself goes on to name versions of characters as relevant or not because they're the ones with which the comic moves forward with. The entirety of the Retcon powers poo poo is Terezi, through John, stacking the right group of idiots in the right ways so that they can actually do anything about anything. I agree with everything you've said, but I think it might be intentional. Also: I think there's a good chance that Lord English is already gone and that he's been replaced with a different big boss that the kids will be completely unprepared to fight and is going to totally wipe them out. This boss will then take over the comic and change it's name to something else. So Homestuck will be over and then the new villain controled comic will start.
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I mean I'm sure the dead ghosts of character feel like they were pretty relevant and meaningful. My favorite ones are all the jades that got crushed by a meteor and the infinite different trolls bec just slayed beacuse John died and the scratch never happened. Man those guys are super meaningful and important! No they're not. They're not important to the comic, or the viewer, or the narrative, or even to themselves. The dream bubbles are nothing but a mish mash of dream and memory where you spend eternity doing nothing but standing around in your own failures and watching other versions of you that got slightly farther but still failed. Hilariously the only ghosts who seemed to have grown as people after they died are Tavros, who's growth is merely a tool for Vriska and Meena to do a thing, and a different Vriska, who lost all ambition and drive and found herself with nobody but another dead ghost who also resigned themselves to not being important or doing things.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I mean I'm sure the dead ghosts of character feel like they were pretty relevant and meaningful. My favorite ones are all the jades that got crushed by a meteor and the infinite different trolls bec just slayed beacuse John died and the scratch never happened. Man those guys are super meaningful and important! i feel like if we're getting to the point of having to explain why it matters that the game over timeline terezi met up with ghost vriska, we should probably all go back to making Equip Arms jokes because higher-level reading comprehension is asking a bit much of us
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Even if it's not important in the grand scheme of things, Homestuck has been a comic where everything keeps getting worse forever with only a vague guarantee everything will turn out okay. Sometimes, little points of brevity and uplifting nothings are needed.
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seriously its just a bittersweet little coda for the game over timeline, with a theme of reconciliation between estranged characters. it happened when it did as part of terezi pulling herself out of the pit of self-doubt shes been in since around the time she got dave killed by jack. its not ""important"" to the larger plot except inasmuch as it has relevance to terezis character.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I mean I'm sure the dead ghosts of character feel like they were pretty relevant and meaningful. My favorite ones are all the jades that got crushed by a meteor and the infinite different trolls bec just slayed beacuse John died and the scratch never happened. Man those guys are super meaningful and important! I'm at a loss as to how to explain that the actual characters shown in the latest Flash were individuals that the comic, the viewer and the narrative did find important and that providing closure on their specific storylines matters both to us as the audience and to Terezi who's struggling with her relationship with Vriska and the pre-Retcon Terezi. This does not happen very often. Suffice it to say that it was not about the infinite dead trolls except maybe to set the sad, lonely tone. You're probably not meant to move on from the Game Over versions of the characters so seamlessly that seeing them again feels pointless, unless you're literally Rose Lalond.
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Dolash posted:Suffice it to say that it was not about the infinite dead trolls except maybe to set the sad, lonely tone. You're probably not meant to move on from the Game Over versions of the characters so seamlessly that seeing them again feels pointless, unless you're literally Rose Lalond. It's just...I understand what I'm the writer and the comic want me to be feeling about a lot of this. I get that. But I don't loving care. There's a Time Wizard, A Dog Girl who controls all of space, A Resurrection Witch, (at the time) two spare kernels, and a boy who literally exists outside of the span of continuity in the comic and can make lasting permanent changes on an unfathomable scale at any point that he wants. At some point we've crossed into a scale where the emotions of a few characters who don't exist anymore really doesn't matter to me. No seriously, John retcons poo poo outside the comic's scope so he's not bound by the laws of Alpha/beta timelines so how the gently caress do that Vriska and Terezi ghosts even exist? Even by the comic rules they should be here anymore. Cause Dream bubbles are for Alpha/beta timeline ghosts and John's actions should have wiped that whole time line away clean. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Aug 19, 2015 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:It's just...I understand what I'm the writer and the comic want me to be feeling about a lot of this. I get that. It's a story. Things that have been included in the story "happened" regardless of the rigor and explication of the causal link between them and other events. The page still exists. You haven't been caused to unread it. It's still part of the story and therefore it still matters to it. Today is a good day to revisit Wizardy Herbert.
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