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Benito Cereno posted:In case anyone is wondering what the "shocking secret" is: she has a cat head Whew that answers everything.
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Benito Cereno posted:In case anyone is wondering what the "shocking secret" is: she has a cat head So I guess that covers everything except why'd she have a cat head.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:06
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Keeshhound posted:Wait, what? So Luke effectively murders his apprentice so his robo-girlfriend could have a body? Luke is not a very good Jedi. Like, has problems with his emotions not very good Jedi. Like, lashes out in anger, not very good Jedi. You know all those draconian rules the Jedi enforce on themselves about not having emotions, like they're Vulcans with force powers and laser swords? It's because of guys like Luke. But that's all the former EU and it doesn't matter anymore. zoux posted:So I guess that covers everything except why'd she have a cat head. I think it was some kind of Krypto-Gypsy curse. I think she wanted to know more about Superman so she goes riffling through his space underwear drawer and something there gives her a bad case of cat head.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:12
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Keeshhound posted:Wait, what? So Luke effectively murders his apprentice so his robo-girlfriend could have a body? No, the student had already vacated the body or something. I've done my best to forget that poo poo, it's loving weird, but it lingers. And oddly enough, I was explaining this exact scenario to a coworker the other day as an example of horrible EU stuff that I'd read in my misspent youth. The student lady had previously transferred her boyfriend's mind into a robot in an effort to have him live through a fatal disease or something that killed his body but it wasn't really him because SOULS I guess and he kind of wanted to die so he sacrificed himself to do something-or-other (blow up a doomsday ship?) and she went with him but in a way that conveniently left her super hot body untouched and available for the ghost-lady to move into and bang Luke with. Star Wars, everybody!  (from one of the Tag and Bink comics, forget which)
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Aug 17, 2015 21:15
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zoux posted:So I guess that covers everything except why'd she have a cat head. Well: she doesn't actually have a cat head. She just thinks she has a cat head. Early in the story, Lois has a car accident while chasing a scoop. When she comes back to work a few days later, she has that lead box around her head, and everyone assumes that it's because of scars from the car accident. But Superman snoops around her apartment and finds in her diary that she was investigating a woman who claimed to be Circe from Greek myth. Circe tricks Lois into drinking a potion that gives her a cat head. Circe is a surprisingly common motif in Silver Age Superman stories--she gives Superman a lion head not once, but twice, and she's key to the hosed up origin of Comet the Super-Horse. But I digress. Superman eventually figures out that the Circe in this story is a fake (as opposed to the one in some of the other stories, who was real--and sometimes, but sometimes not, Kryptonian) and breaks open the lead box on Lois's head. And she just has a regular human head. While "Circe" was not a real sorceress, she was a real hypnotist, and had hypnotized Lois into thinking she had a cat head. To make Lois feel better, Superman takes her out to dinner. But then to make her feel way worse, he orders her a saucer of milk.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:16
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The Silver age was loving garbage.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:22
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Amazing.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:23
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zoux posted:The Silver age was loving garbage. I think you mean loving amazing.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:23
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zoux posted:The Silver age was loving garbage. You took the wrong lesson from that story, sorry.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:24
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Traxus IV posted:
That's from Tag and Bink: Revenge of the Clone Menace, where they're Jedi apprentices who Anakin spared during Order 66 because they'd previously given him relationship advice that helped him score with Padme. Fun fact: Skippy the Jedi Droid was created by Peter David.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:25
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I mean it's fine to look at and go "haha that sounds ridiculous" but imagine if that's what comics were like today.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:28
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:"In the Star Wars novel Darksaber" Hey, we all do things we regret when we're young and dumb, okay?! 
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Aug 17, 2015 21:30
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Comics today are arguably more ridiculous.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:31
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Benito Cereno posted:Comics today are arguably more ridiculous. I guess if you describe them in totally reductive terms and ignore all context you could make it look that way.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:31
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Lois Lane witnessed a murder, but the murderer saw Lois. Her life was in danger. The best way to protect her life, thought literally Superman, is to set up this elaborate fat ray accident that turns her into a fat person. She is not recognized by the murderer and is only put in danger when she walks in front of a fun house mirror that makes her look thin. The murderer happens to be there at the same time and sees this and almost kills her but Superman has been following her around to protect her.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:34
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zoux posted:I mean it's fine to look at and go "haha that sounds ridiculous" but imagine if that's what comics were like today. People might actually enjoy reading them
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Aug 17, 2015 21:42
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redbackground posted:And probably easier to read what with the printing quality of the day (I could see it looking like RZ half the time.) Those weren't just old comics, they were actually newspaper strips.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:42
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Yes, and apart from some archaic ideas about body image etc, that story is beautifully drawn and hilarious. I do not see what the problem is.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:42
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Benito Cereno posted:Yes, and apart from some archaic ideas about body image etc, that story is beautifully drawn and hilarious. I do not see what the problem is. I mean besides the fact that the whole premise is so everyone can make fat jokes about Lois Lane including Superman (who could've skipped the fat ray part of his plot and just stuck to the "follow Lois around" part).
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Aug 17, 2015 21:47
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Aug 17, 2015 21:48
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Or just asked her what the murderer looked like and then left her in protective custody at the local precinct for the five minutes it'd take for him to find the perpetrator.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:49
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I mean how many pages and pages of arguments do we have in this forum about who Superman is or isn't as a character and how he's supposed to be this idealized version of humanity and in the entire Silver Age he was basically a huge rear end in a top hat and everyone is like "YES YES MORE MORE".
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Aug 17, 2015 21:51
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Or just stopped the murder in the first place.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:51
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Silver Age Superman was so powerful that he could only stave off boredom by doing everything as circuitously as possible.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:51
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I love old timey ideas of what fat used to be.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:52
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zoux posted:I mean how many pages and pages of arguments do we have in this forum about who Superman is or isn't as a character and how he's supposed to be this idealized version of humanity and in the entire Silver Age he was basically a huge rear end in a top hat and everyone is like "YES YES MORE MORE". You know, you could probably trace Silver Age Superman back to the old trickster god myths
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Aug 17, 2015 21:55
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VanSandman posted:I love old timey ideas of what fat used to be. Yeah, I mean, she's positively svelte by contemporary standards.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:55
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In the particular Lois is fat story, Superman is carrying her around and acting like he doesn't know who she is, and he's all "Geez lady, the girl I normally carry around weighs like half of what you do" and all acting short of breath and poo poo. Not Cool Man.
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Aug 17, 2015 21:58
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The crucial question for me is whether I'd be willing to pay the equivalent of modern comic book prices for the content of the Silver Age books. In my case, the answer is no, but then again I haven't routinely purchased comics in years for the same reasons.
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Aug 17, 2015 22:16
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Hearing people describe the ridiculousness of silver age stories is always more fun than actually reading them
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Aug 17, 2015 22:17
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zoux posted:I mean how many pages and pages of arguments do we have in this forum about who Superman is or isn't as a character and how he's supposed to be this idealized version of humanity and in the entire Silver Age he was basically a huge rear end in a top hat and everyone is like "YES YES MORE MORE".
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Aug 17, 2015 22:21
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Benito Cereno posted:In case anyone is wondering what the "shocking secret" is: she has a cat head Excuse me, she thinks she has a cat head. That's completely different! Edit: Nuts, I had this thread open waaaaay too long.
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Aug 17, 2015 22:21
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Ghostlight posted:For the same reason that people have arguments over who Batman is while still clamoring for Batman '66 - because people are able to differentiate between a serious story detailing a character with certain qualities and a farcical story using established characters to enhance the farce. I also hate Batman '66 
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Aug 17, 2015 22:21
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zoux posted:In the particular Lois is fat story, Superman is carrying her around and acting like he doesn't know who she is, and he's all "Geez lady, the girl I normally carry around weighs like half of what you do" and all acting short of breath and poo poo. Not Cool Man. Don't forget the reveal that Lois is fat because Superman secretly had her shot with a weird growth ray so she wouldn't be recognised by a mafia hitman. In other words, Superman knew it was Lois all along. Because he forced her to magically become fat without her knowledge or consent. And proceeds to treat her like poo poo because she is fat. Silver Age!
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Aug 17, 2015 22:24
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Benito Cereno posted:the "shocking secret" is: she has a cat head I am very disappointed that nobody made a Schrödinger joke. 
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Aug 17, 2015 22:43
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zoux posted:I also hate Batman '66 What don't you like about it?
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Aug 17, 2015 22:45
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Nyeehg posted:Don't forget the reveal that Lois is fat because Superman secretly had her shot with a weird growth ray so she wouldn't be recognised by a mafia hitman. Kryptonian Pick-Up artistry is fuckin weird man.
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Aug 17, 2015 22:48
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Wheat Loaf posted:What don't you like about it? Oh I despise camp.
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Aug 17, 2015 22:49
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Hakkesshu posted:Hearing people describe the ridiculousness of silver age stories is always more fun than actually reading them Agreed. I would much rather read a synopsis of the madness within and then let my brain fill in the gaps than actually read the story. The only really old comics that are good to read are, as always, Spidey Super Stories.
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My favorite parts are always the covers. They're like Far Side cartoons that also happen to star Superman.
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