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You're welcome, I did have a full write up somewhere on this HDD for when I meant to get around to finishing my big thread on the Infinity forums, but by the time I finally found time to finishing writing it N3 hit and I'm not sure I will go back and finish it at this rate. There's a chap that does Silhouette proxy markers for the Stingray TAGs on the Infinity forums and they're worth a download but with Silhouette Markers now being produced by multiple companies it's worth just using a silhouette marker for him to be honest. I think you've definitely picked the best 3 TAGs in the faction though, subjective as that may be. 
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What are the workhorse type units of vanilla CA? I really loved all the PanO knight guys, but it seems like only a few see play, and only 1-2 in a list. Not complaining, just had this idea the MO faction ran all knights which was wrong.
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Painted model crosspost time:             (Skiavoros, Kornak Gazarot, HMG Sogorat)
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Aug 18, 2015 01:48
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Where's the other elbow spike. 
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Aug 18, 2015 01:58
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I have no idea. I don't know if it even came with it. That thing sat in my case with a fuzzy primer job for months before I got around to doing some light sanding, repriming, and painting it, and I don't remember ever having two spikes.
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Really digging the OSL on the Skiavoros, stabbington, well done on that one mate. Mugaaz posted:What are the workhorse type units of vanilla CA? I really loved all the PanO knight guys, but it seems like only a few see play, and only 1-2 in a list. Not complaining, just had this idea the MO faction ran all knights which was wrong. For CA I've had quite a bit of success with a variety of stuff so far but I have yet to play over 250pts with my CA. So far I've had great success from Unidron Batroids, Ko Dali, Skiavoros and especially the Umbra Legate so far. In fact I think the Umbra Legate is the model I think most highly of after going into it unsure what to make of them.
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CA's toys seem ridiculous coming from Adriana. Plasma Sniper Rifles! Sepsitors! TO Camo Lieutenants with auto-chain of command!? I know what army I'm picking up next.
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Aug 18, 2015 17:13
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Don't blame me because you don't take MSV. Chasseur lyfe 
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Say that to my MSV3 (in both factions) and then see what happens bruh.
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Flipswitch posted:You can sod off and take your infiltrating camo specialists with you. Totally not an emptyquote.
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A LFT to the face? All kidding aside, I wish I could play against CA or something else. My LGS has had a few people pick up starters, but it's pretty much just my Yu Jing buddy, a once-in-a-blue-moon ALEPH player, and me. I'm going around 10-2 with the YJ bud (lost last night's game by victory points) and I think we could both use a change of pace.
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Verr posted:A LFT to the face? One of the great joys of infinity is taking a flamethrower to a super-expensive or elite TO/ODD troop. Even better when a 2W or more model burns straight to dead, especially if your opponent went 'oh, I'll just take the hit and shoot, he'll be fine'. 
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Verr posted:A LFT to the face?
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Hey guys! I've been brainstorming two 200 point lists for my MO in preparation for an ITS-tournament this weekend but I'm having some trouble. I'd be grateful if anyone could take a look and give me some suggestions! There will be four different ITS missions that are more or less new to me (Seize the antennas, Transmission matrix, Lifeblood, Biotechvore), and I didn't realize how spoiled I've been by playing almost exclusively at 300 points.. My ability to slot in stuff not already in either list is sort of limited, I do have another drone, some knights of santiago, a teuton, joan and a father knight, but thats about it. This first list was born as a response to Transmission matrix hating on all my beloved HI, have started to feel it might be good for most missions except for Biotechvore:  Military Orders────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1   10  0  0 BROTHER KONSTANTINOS Specialist (Infiltration) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CCW. (34) FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12) FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10) MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (15) SPEC. SERGEANT Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (27) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (13) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (13) ORDER SERGEANT MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 21) CRUSADER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34)3.5 SWC | 200 Points Open with Army 5 This second list is basically an attempt to do what I usually do: throw a big link of magister knights at people! It usually works pretty well. Figured it might be something for Biotechvore? Military Orders────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1 10 0 5 MAGISTER KNIGHT Panzerfaust, Light Shotgun / Pistol, DA CCW. (24) MAGISTER KNIGHT Panzerfaust, Light Shotgun / Pistol, DA CCW. (24) MAGISTER KNIGHT Panzerfaust, Light Shotgun / Pistol, EXP CCW. (25) MAGISTER KNIGHT Panzerfaust, Light Shotgun / Pistol, EXP CCW. (25) MAGISTER KNIGHT Missile Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 32) SPEC. SERGEANT (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24) FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18) FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (8)4 SWC | 200 Points Open with Army 5 Like I said, I would be really grateful for suggestions/comments! I have put variations of them both through some trials and they've done well enough for themselves, altough mostly against a single regular buddy. At this tournament there will be a ton of people I never play so god knows what they'll be bringing.
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Verr posted:A LFT to the face? I used the Pan O Mechanized Deployment Bot (Who gets an auxilla bot with heavy flame thrower) against my friend. My friend deployed badly and I got the aux bot right up to his Link team and burned them all.
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ParsleyTroll posted:Hey guys! I've been brainstorming two 200 point lists for my MO in preparation for an ITS-tournament this weekend but I'm having some trouble. I'd be grateful if anyone could take a look and give me some suggestions! There will be four different ITS missions that are more or less new to me (Seize the antennas, Transmission matrix, Lifeblood, Biotechvore), and I didn't realize how spoiled I've been by playing almost exclusively at 300 points.. I'm no ITS expert, but I believe 3 of those 4 missions require specialists. The 1st list has just about enough; the second absolutely doesn't. Is this a setup where you can choose one of the lists for each mission? If that is the case, I'd rather bring 2 lists with enough specialists (maybe one TO heavy, to gently caress with MSV-less armies) than your current spread, where essentially you must use your first list in 3/4 games. I'd try working from a hospitaller doctor or a father-knight hacker, both good fighting specialists, with an order sgt link and another specialist or two. I feel like 200 is very cramped for a full magister link. Military Orders────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1 10 0 0 FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10) BROTHER KONSTANTINOS Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CCW. (29) ORDER SERGEANT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 19) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (13) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (13) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (13) SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (27) FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) FATHER-KNIGHT Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 50) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)3 SWC | 199 Points Open with Army 5 Not saying that's any better but it's how I'd do a list including specialists. Cheap link team (with the only model that can get into a cheap link as a specialist in MO) is a natural starting point. 2 more good specialists, and some cheap cheerleaders who can form a secondary link if it goes pete tong. Swapping the father-knight for a hospitaller doc, with a remote servant, would allow you to upgrade a fusilier to a specialist.
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Thank you for the quick reply Genghis! Yes it's a format where you choose wich list to play for each scenario. My semi-coherent reasoning behind not taking a single specialist in the second list was a half-formed idea that it would be picked just for Biotechvore where no specialists are needed, but I do see your point about making sure both lists can be used for different missions. I really like your ideas and will keep pondering!
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ParsleyTroll posted:Biotechvore where no specialists are needed Wrong. Biotechvore still has 2 points for classified objectives.
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D'oh! I keep forgetting about those, lucky me I asked here. Many thanks!
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If I'm using the Haqq'islam Bahram box as regular Haqq'islam - Ragik, Lasiq, Muyib, Ghulams and Fiday -- what's the next step? I was thinking of remotes or a tag (although the haqq'islam tag looks like poo poo IMO - so would sub something else in)
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Naffatuns go on pretty much every list I make. Wait on the tag, a resculpt is in the works.
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Got another 250pt game in today ready for our next its event and so far I'm pretty happy with my CA list, it's working pretty well and seems quite flexible so far. Did pretty well tonight on Sieze the Antenna, my buddy didn't really have an answer for me shoving up the table with Total Reaction REM and Unidron support and using hacking support to up their reaction fire. I eventually boxed him in with Ko Dali but the damage had been done at that point and he struggled to get back into the game late on turn two. I got a 200pt game due tomorrow (yay being on leave for two weeks) which I am looking forward to as well, rocking double Umbra in that one to see how that works out for me. Southern Heel posted:If I'm using the Haqq'islam Bahram box as regular Haqq'islam - Ragik, Lasiq, Muyib, Ghulams and Fiday -- what's the next step? I was thinking of remotes or a tag (although the haqq'islam tag looks like poo poo IMO - so would sub something else in) Other considerations: Djanbazan (if any I'd be tempted to get the Hacker sculpt because I think the others may be due a resculpt in the near future, dey is old. The Sniper is a bit of a classic though so if any I'd get that and proxy as appropriate. Haqq Support Pack for filling out your ITS needs. Ghulam SWC Box for filling out Ghulam options, a great buy if you're planning to eventually go sectorials for linkable goodness, but also gives you some good bodies for lower point games where Ghulams aren't a bad use for spending points and SWC on orders. Same goes for the REM box, although the Haqq REMs look old as gently caress now, I hope they get resculpted to be in line with the Kameel chassis. Janissaires HMG is a good looking model to pick up and my buddy loves his and it makes it into a lot of his lists usually, but he really loves the model and he did an amazing paint job on it. I think the Asawira is a good pick up over the Jannie actually, but I'm not super knowledgeable on HaqqIslam outside of Qapu Khalki which is a sect I do own, someone else on the forum would do a better job recommending here than I would.  DO NOT BUY THE MAGGIE, IT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS IN THE COMING MONTHS:
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My group is pretty much done with GW and whatever shitheap they make out of 40K so we're looking at Infinity to get our sci-fi fix. Is my reading correct that the Combined Army is the way to go if I like my combat to be exceedingly brutal, ugly and up close?
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Yes, Yes and errrrr not really? every faction can shove some poo poo in up close, if you like it fast paced and upclose, JSA are probably more to that matter. If you like gunning down humies with torrents of better weaponry than them and making GBS threads on them from a great height with some head trippy rules, then CA is for you. We may have sweeties.
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Southern Heel posted:If I'm using the Haqq'islam Bahram box as regular Haqq'islam - Ragik, Lasiq, Muyib, Ghulams and Fiday -- what's the next step? I was thinking of remotes or a tag (although the haqq'islam tag looks like poo poo IMO - so would sub something else in) I would acquire: - Naffatun box - Djanbazan HMG After that you can go a variety of ways, but as Flip mentioned, don't pick up the current Maggie. We don't know when the resculpt is coming, but it's coming (and is so much better that it's not even funny). BlackIronHeart posted:My group is pretty much done with GW and whatever shitheap they make out of 40K so we're looking at Infinity to get our sci-fi fix. Is my reading correct that the Combined Army is the way to go if I like my combat to be exceedingly brutal, ugly and up close? You can do aggression with a variety of factions. Vanilla CA or Morats can get a lot of mileage out of Daturazi and Hungries, but they're far from the only faction with good warband access. Go with aesthetics first and mechanics second, because most factions can skew toward whatever direction you want (the main exception being Ariadna, since their gimmick is lacking access to high tech tools).
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I just had a bit of a weird moment, I was reading the first few dozen pages of this thread and the shotgun Croc Man is nearly two years old at this point?! E: I also hope CB releases the last Unidron Batroid profile soon, so I can have a complete team option, I'm curious what the EI version of a Tinbot looks like, gently caress the crappy tokens. Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Aug 19, 2015 |
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I bought the USAriadna box, a 112, an Engineer with Control Box, and Traktor Muls. Tomorrow, I am playing a 200pt game of Tohaa against Pano. I am looking forward to learning more of the rules!
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okay I made a 150 point list I was going to try for my first proper game of infinity at a club i've found near me in london, is this a good list to learn stuff? I've got a weird selection of models i bought just mainly because I thought they looked good  Haqqislam────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1 7 3 0 SEKBAN Lieutenant AP Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, Stun Pistol, Knife. (22) SEKBAN Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Chain-colt / Pistol, Stun Pistol, Knife. (25) NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (12) NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (12) NAFFATÛN Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (13) NAFFATÛN Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (13) LASIQ Viral Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 26) DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (10) DAYLAMI (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (10) DAYLAMI Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 7)2 SWC | 150 Points Open with Army 5
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I'd throw another specialist in there. Even if you don't get to the point of playing objectives, it's generally a good rule to have at least two of Hackers, Engineers, Forward Observers, Doctors, etc...
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Pretty much. You could pick up the starter or the Ghulam specialist box and have a Ghulam doctor as well. Or run the Janissary from the starter (or the new Janissary box) as a Janissary doctor. Engineers or hackers are also nice, could proxy one of the Ghulams as a hacker.
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The advice above is all really valid so just +1 to those I also had a really weird dream last night but in part of it I was playing Infinity against 5 of the old Vector Operators that were just hopping around like bouncy balls killing my man's and then the dream went weird. Figured I'd share that with the thread because it was odd.
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Thanks guys, I got the Hassassin starter set and a few extra boxes of guys i thought looked cool so I have a weird hodgepodge but some of the starter box pieces seem to be able to fit for a lot of the more basic troops for Haqqislam so tempted to just proxy them. I'll get another Doctor in.
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Haqq Doctors are like the most ridiculous thing ever, it's so cool from a flavour and gameplay POV. I'm trying to find some models that are good as proxies for some Shrouded, I've got the chance of picking up Hasht for £4 tomorrow but I think his model sucks cock. I really love the Caliban sculpt so I'm hoping CA looks more like that in the future. I am tempted to get a pair of Noctifiers and using them as Shrouded, I think their models are bad arse if a bit over-equipped. They're probably the Shas minis that will stand up the resculpt time though, so much of the range looks like dogshit.
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Be a good alien and unfuck your inbox.
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Just flush everything down the drain or something. And speaking of effort, where's the killpost? And the photos from your event? 
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The kill post I have successfully failed to remember to do but the folders are on my cpls desk(still) and I'm on leave at the moment so I should actually have time to work on that. My event pics are still on my phone. Though I have a 12 player tournament tomorrow so I may just do one big rundown of how it went with some pics and faction standings if that sounds cool to people? It may become apparent that I am remarkably forgetful of things I don't classify as important.
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Just finished printing, cutting, and sleeving a classified objective deck. Oddly there was an extra card for Secure HVT - the objective that you can sub in. Does anyone know off the top of their head when you choose whether or not to swap it for one of your drawn objectives?
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It just says In Game. So I'm assuming that means whenever.quote:SECURE HVT Actually that's a bit surprising that the official decks don't have have a single copy of this objective card to be pulled aside before you shuffle them. E: Scrolling through the god drat FAQ for ITS 2015, I keep forgetting that FO is B2 now. God Damnit 
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