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GOD WE GET IT JONES IS OLD wait wrong thread
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Aug 19, 2015 21:46
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I think part of the reason it feels like it's dragging so much is because the update rate has gone way, way down. It's now at least a week between updates, where it used to be multiple updates, so at least the slow stuff moved along at a decent release pace. This is a little too slow, but it feels even slower because of that.
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Aug 19, 2015 23:14
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The other part that baffled me a bit, not because it was bad or anything, was the whole Legato deal. I liked it, but I forget why it happened in the middle of the Noisemaster plot. Could've been way better as an interlude story between arcs but I felt like gigi really really wanted to tell that story and couldn't wait.
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Aug 19, 2015 23:34
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Blackheart posted:The other part that baffled me a bit, not because it was bad or anything, was the whole Legato deal. I liked it, but I forget why it happened in the middle of the Noisemaster plot. Could've been way better as an interlude story between arcs but I felt like gigi really really wanted to tell that story and couldn't wait. Yeah. I'm not sure what the point of what that arc was, or if that was setting up for something else, as much as I liked it.
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Aug 20, 2015 00:40
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Bonster posted:I think part of the reason it feels like it's dragging so much is because the update rate has gone way, way down. It's now at least a week between updates, where it used to be multiple updates, so at least the slow stuff moved along at a decent release pace. This is a little too slow, but it feels even slower because of that. Both plot-heavy and combat-heavy chapters in webcomics slow them the gently caress down, even with a steady update schedule. There's just so many words you can fit on an update unless you're Homestuck, and only so many action sequences unless you're...I guess Homestuck again? It happens, and I still think this is moving at a decent speed regardless.
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Aug 20, 2015 00:58
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Blackheart posted:The other part that baffled me a bit, not because it was bad or anything, was the whole Legato deal. I liked it, but I forget why it happened in the middle of the Noisemaster plot. Could've been way better as an interlude story between arcs but I felt like gigi really really wanted to tell that story and couldn't wait. I'm not sure why it was when it was, but it was just a sidequest at the end of the day. It doesn't need to tie into the main plot, necessarily, but it might in hindsight or something.
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Aug 20, 2015 01:03
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Cucumber Quest is heavily inspired by the two Paper Mario games, where for each chapter, there is a 'side' quest that is completed before the 'main' quest simply because it is on the way.
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Aug 20, 2015 01:17
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Dr. Fetus posted:Yeah. I'm not sure what the point of what that arc was, or if that was setting up for something else, as much as I liked it. It was a metaphor for the comic as the whole - nothing was as it appeared, everyone was just playing roles thrust on them, the "bad guys" in the form of the instruments really weren't all that bad, and ultimately victory was only achieved by throwing away the pretense, breaking from the script, and destroying the false images cast out to an empty audience.
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Aug 20, 2015 01:23
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It also served to totally waste the heroes' time while Noisemaster's weapon charged
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Aug 20, 2015 01:27
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Yeah, the whole point was giving Noisemaster the chance to say, "well, no, I didn't put my WMD on hold while you went off to do other stuff."
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Aug 20, 2015 02:01
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Regy Rusty posted:It also served to totally waste the heroes' time while Noisemaster's weapon charged Rand Brittain posted:Yeah, the whole point was giving Noisemaster the chance to say, "well, no, I didn't put my WMD on hold while you went off to do other stuff."  I completely forgot about that. That's actually pretty clever.
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Aug 20, 2015 02:26
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It was basically a side quest happening in a situation where real time passes, unlike most video games.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:17
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Honestly, the problem with these last few updates is that it's all telling us what we already knew. These, what, seven pages of Rosemaster lecturing Glitchmaster could have been shown much more quickly and powerfully by just fading to black with 'I could have won, I hope you appreciate that', like has been said. Just boom, dying one liner that says 'I knew exactly what I was doing' and done. Instead, now we're spending all this time having Rose spell out what she's already shown us and it's an awful drag. The Legato sidequest worked a lot better than this in spite of not progressing with the 'main story' because it created a parallel with the themes of 'everyone being forced to play their roles in a childish play' and reinforced them - emphasising how Glitchmaster getting ready to blow up the city is the real sidequest, because the rules of the game prevent him from winning no matter and in-setting there's nothing actually at stake.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:40
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You people that are complaining about pacing realize that it's been about 10 pages with less words than a restaurant menu, right?
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Aug 20, 2015 07:21
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I can't wait for Cucumber Quest Kai to come out and take out all this pointless filler.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:23
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Just say that you're bored waiting for the next page.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:45
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I dunno, I've been enjoying this. We get to see Rosemaster's motivation for taking the Crocus and breaking from Glitchmaster's plan, and a little more of what makes her and Glitchmaster tick.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:45
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Paul.Power posted:I dunno, I've been enjoying this. We get to see Rosemaster's motivation for taking the Crocus and breaking from Glitchmaster's plan, and a little more of what makes her and Glitchmaster tick. Yeah, I really dig it personally.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:52
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Bongo Bill posted:Just say that you're bored waiting for the next page. I'm bored waiting for the continuation of this arc. I like Rosemaster as a villain, but this is laying it on a bit thick.
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Aug 20, 2015 07:54
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I was screeching in joy at Carrot's transformation into Pretty Soldier Sailor Carrot, but this interlude has made it apparent that it didn't matter. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I do, however, enjoy knowing that Rosemaster threw the game purposefully, even if it was already fairly apparent.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:14
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Oneiros posted:You people that are complaining about pacing realize that it's been about 10 pages with less words than a restaurant menu, right? The restaurant menu probably has less ham than this interlude.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:30
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I didn't used to understand why Gigi doesn't come here any more; thanks, thread, for opening my eyes. I don't think I've ever seen anyone bitch so relentlessly about a comic they supposedly like. What happened to just checking out for the boring bits? Put it down, go do something else and come back later. It's a real loving downer reading post after post about how one monologue must mean we're headed for five more years of nothing but artsy monologues because it's not like this a comic that has changed in mood or theme before? The only issue with pacing right now is that it's taking literal months to get through and y'all are a bunch of whiny man babies.
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Aug 20, 2015 08:40
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"For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is Rosemaster? This is Rosemaster speaking. I am the woman who loves her life. I am the woman who does not sacrifice her love or her values. I am the woman who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are perishing-you who dread knowledge -I am the woman who will now tell you.”
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Aug 20, 2015 08:40
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Personally I think this will all read pretty well in the printed volumes. Web comics always drag, but I don't think the author's sense of story telling should be sacrificed to meet a real world deadline of progress. I'm cool with this.
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Aug 20, 2015 15:18
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new page finally, the torturous 15 sentence monologue has come to it's end. ya'll are babies over complaining about a webcomic that takes like 5 seconds per update to read for taking a while to get through a villain's final speech.
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Aug 20, 2015 16:04
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Renaissance Robot posted:I didn't used to understand why Gigi doesn't come here any more; thanks, thread, for opening my eyes. I don't think I've ever seen anyone bitch so relentlessly about a comic they supposedly like. ...Or it could be because people get hyperbollically mad and rush to defend their precious webcomic author over pretty mild criticism.
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Aug 20, 2015 16:18
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Aug 20, 2015 16:42
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Maybe they should call it Queue-cumber Quest... because we're all waiting in line for something to happen!
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Aug 20, 2015 17:01
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Malpais Legate posted:I was screeching in joy at Carrot's transformation into Pretty Soldier Sailor Carrot, but this interlude has made it apparent that it didn't matter. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I don't think that's necessarily true. She was going to let the "heroes" live, but she straight up threw him off a cliff--I think she was genuinely trying to kill him, and only let up because he proved himself. Heck, maybe her version of the drama she was setting up ended with Almond, motivated by the death of her friend, fighting like never before. Either way, that transformation did save his life. (Although according to Gigi's askfm, it seems like the real reason is she hated his armor design and wanted to change it, so who knows.)
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Aug 20, 2015 20:49
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Captain Oblivious posted:The restaurant menu probably has less ham than this interlude. Bacon isn't even in this scene you dolt. And Carrot's transformation, regardless of whether it was needed to defeat Rosemaster, now allows him to be an actual Character Who Does Things; seeing as how he had done absolutely nothing up until now.
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Aug 20, 2015 21:17
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life_source posted:Bacon isn't even in this scene you dolt. Yeah, honestly even if the power up isn't permanent and Rosemaster took a stage dive, Carrot thinks he won, and that self confidence boost in addition to the Power Of Love are going to let him be a full fledged helping member of the party.
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Aug 20, 2015 22:33
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Carrasco posted:I don't think that's necessarily true. She was going to let the "heroes" live, but she straight up threw him off a cliff--I think she was genuinely trying to kill him, and only let up because he proved himself. Heck, maybe her version of the drama she was setting up ended with Almond, motivated by the death of her friend, fighting like never before.
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Aug 20, 2015 23:52
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Plus Almond now gets to secretly think he's awesome.
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Aug 21, 2015 00:08
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Plus, they're going to get a whole bunch of NPCs being strangely helpful now that they have a hunk on the team.
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Aug 21, 2015 00:49
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Neo_Crimson posted:...Or it could be because people get hyperbollically mad and rush to defend their precious webcomic author over pretty mild criticism. Getting exasperated when the quality of the thread drops to "every second poster delivers the exact same I'm not defending the author, I'm rejecting the validity of criticism which amounts to moaning that the rest of the comic must be fated to be boring and sue-ish just because the last dozen pages supposedly have been. WarpedNaba posted:Plus, they're going to get a whole bunch of NPCs being strangely helpful now that they have a hunk on the team. Who wouldn't want to help commander Caboodle? 
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Aug 21, 2015 00:55
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Nobody thinks the comic is ruined forever, some of us just think this last part of this arc has dragged a little long. That's always a risk with a serial narrative, and productions with way more time and money and people working on them have pacing issues too.
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Aug 21, 2015 01:24
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At the very least the art will always be cute to look at so that's always a plus with Cucumber Quest.
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Aug 21, 2015 01:39
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Blackheart posted:At the very least the art will always be cute to look at so that's always a plus with Cucumber Quest. 'Thing at least looks good' is like, the mildest of the mild compliment that could possibly exist. And I say that for all media: comics, videogames, movies 'At least it looks decent' is the barest of compliments you could give something.
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Aug 21, 2015 01:51
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I didn't mean it like that, the thing looks consistently gorgeous and it's enough to look at because of that regardless of how you feel about the story. This can't be said about most comics out there, web or not.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:30
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WarpedNaba posted:Plus, they're going to get a whole bunch of NPCs being strangely helpful now that they have a hunk on the team. And now I can't stop thinking of Zelos' theme. Thanks for that.
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Aug 21, 2015 06:42
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