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Tayter Swift posted:MS-20 Mini, or the Roland System 1m. Or maybe the Dreadbox Erebus. System 1m is pretty good fun, although the patching makes little sense without other boxes.. I'm going to wait for the System 500 modules because the System 100m was a long ago dream, and there's a hard limit to number of modules.
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I was allways against getting a modular because of the cost of even the most basic system. But the Waldorf NW1 announcment pushed me over the edge, I have it and a doepfer 3U case preordered. I'll be using my microbrute as a interface for it, saves a bit of cash/space. Looking up modules is fun until you check the price tag, all the cool stuff is really loving expensive.
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Aug 20, 2015 09:21
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Why would you ever go modular it's only one voice.
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Aug 20, 2015 11:35
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COOL CORN posted:I've played around with VST synths in the past, but after watching "I Dream of Wires" on Netflix, I want a modular synth SO BAD No don't  I'd second suggestions of an MS20mini or Phenol or minibrute, some other semi-modular. Absolute cheapest way without real DIY would be a Boogie Board and a synth voice. The original pittsburgh synth block is probably the most reasonable used. utamaru posted:came across this demo on muff today: https://soundcloud.com/audio-damage-inc/psytrance-bassline-sidechain-pumping-with-kompressor Super cheap? Alesis nanocomp is cleaner than the 3630, with no french house hype$. I'd really suggest a used FMR RNC because you'll end up using it more often on lots more things, they're down to about $100 these days. I use a 1/3 rack tray with those two and an RNLA inside. The dbx 163 was a favorite of mine for drums but they're not cheap as free anymore so I'd feel bad suggesting it. The 166A is nothing special but works and is cheap. W424 posted:I was allways against getting a modular because of the cost of even the most basic system. But the Waldorf NW1 announcment pushed me over the edge, I have it and a doepfer 3U case preordered. I'll be using my microbrute as a interface for it, saves a bit of cash/space. I dunno you could have a really varied system sticking just with Doepfer modules and even his wacky stuff is a bargain compared to some of the hip manufacturers. Too bad he seems to eschew digital modules, that's where the big holes are in his line up. I'm rather excited about the NW1 but it's been pushed back again which makes me worried. lol waldorf.
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Some one needs to make a history of Waldorf video, like Dr. Sparkle doing the history of Atari on Chrontendo. Like, how many times have all the assets changed hands since the early 90s?
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Aug 20, 2015 11:40
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Startyde posted:FMR RNC
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snorch posted:Why would you ever go modular it's only one voice. A modular has as many voices as you have the space and money for.
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Aug 20, 2015 13:07
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There are also virtual modular software solutions if you're just looking for ultimate configurability. It's not tactile, it's not analog, but it does provide you with the ability to architect a synthesizer voice from scratch. You can fiddle with (virtual) wires this way, and if you grab a BCR2000 or the like you can twist knobs, too. Reaktor and Max are each pretty powerful. Then there's Patchblocks which shares the visual modular paradigm, but is less powerful. It's still in Beta though, so it's growing. The editor/emulator is free, so you can always download and play with it. The bonus is that you can export the patch to Patchblocks hardware if you want to get back to the analog domain. Then there's the Nord Modular / G2, but I don't know what that would cost and you'd have to deal with ancient hardware to program it (I think).
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Aug 20, 2015 13:38
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sliderule posted:There are also virtual modular software solutions if you're just looking for ultimate configurability. It's not tactile, it's not analog, but it does provide you with the ability to architect a synthesizer voice from scratch. You can fiddle with (virtual) wires this way, and if you grab a BCR2000 or the like you can twist knobs, too. Patchblocks looks really cool. But... I can see it being a flash in the pan and not really gaining traction. But who knows! I think my short term is to get an MS-20... but I really like the idea of VSTs, and getting something I can use as a MIDI controller as well. I have a lovely old M-Audio O2 that I use as a controller, and that's honestly about as far as my hardware synth knowledge goes. Everything else I know has been software. Can the USB port on the back of the MS-20 turn it into a controller as well? Sorry for the stupid questions 
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Aug 20, 2015 14:11
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COOL CORN posted:Patchblocks looks really cool. But... I can see it being a flash in the pan and not really gaining traction. But who knows! It can and I've used it as one, but it's not a very good controller. It transmits keypresses only -- no velocity, no aftertouch, no wheel motions.
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Aug 20, 2015 14:31
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If software modular isn't out of the question take a look at Madrona Aalto, u-he bazille and Arturia's Moog Modular V.
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The old MS20 usb controller that sold with the nice version of the Legacy Collection works great and the MS20 VST and knows when you're patching the real cables. Unfortunately it also works with the iPad version and they didn't do another production run. So instead of being $50 they're now going for like half a real mini.
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Aug 20, 2015 15:23
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COOL CORN posted:Patchblocks looks really cool. But... I can see it being a flash in the pan and not really gaining traction. But who knows! Yeah I'm not too confident about its future either, but as mentioned, the editor/emulator is completely free, so it won't cost you anything to play around if you want to scratch an itch. They just released the MIDI block and a new version of the editor, so it's still moving forward. I just got my second MIDI block, so I'll be experimenting with MIDI automation. Unfortunately, I'll have to rewrite the MIDI code in order to do everything I want (filtering / routing / distribution) but at least it's possible -- the emulator / firmware code is completely open. Also, as a crossover to modular, there will soon be a Patchblocks eurorack module. As the outputs are DC coupled, you can use them as CV signals. So you could patch up your own Turing Machine or rectifier or waveshaper or whatever and it can sit right in your rack.
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Aug 20, 2015 15:51
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Startyde posted:The old MS20 usb controller that sold with the nice version of the Legacy Collection works great and the MS20 VST and knows when you're patching the real cables. Unfortunately it also works with the iPad version and they didn't do another production run. So instead of being $50 they're now going for like half a real mini. I'm pretty sure they designed the legacy collection to be controlled by the microkorg as well. I've been using mine as a midi controller for the past two weeks while I've been visiting family in Georgia. Whenever I have one of the legacy collection synths open and I move a knob on the microkorg it's somehow automatically mapped to something in the vst. Also three of my microkorg's keys stopped working :/ I'm starting to think I'm cursed to live with this thing forever.
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Beatstep Pro showed up. It's fun, but it keeps lagging behind my DAW. It's a consistent delay, but it's gonna make using this thing a pain. Scrubbing through forums now to see if I can get any useful info.
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Aug 20, 2015 19:10
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Another modular VST that I would recommend is Bazille from U-He. Sounds great and I've only managed to tap my i7 out by playing a chord on a super complex patch with a ton of effects modulating it.
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Aug 20, 2015 19:11
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Anyone have any experience of Audulus? Was thinking of getting it to learn a bit more about synthesis. It looks much nicer/friendlier than other software modulars I've seen.
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Aug 20, 2015 19:20
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The Windows version crashes Reaper, appears to work fine as a standalone. Can't tell you much more.
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Aug 20, 2015 19:57
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:Beatstep Pro showed up. It's fun, but it keeps lagging behind my DAW. It's a consistent delay, but it's gonna make using this thing a pain. Scrubbing through forums now to see if I can get any useful info. can you use the beatstep as the master clock for your DAW, have it just send instead of receive and then send back? I'm curious because I plan to get one and was kind of hoping for that feature. from laptop -> beatstep -> laptop is a pointless loop.
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Aug 20, 2015 20:29
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:Beatstep Pro showed up. It's fun, but it keeps lagging behind my DAW. It's a consistent delay, but it's gonna make using this thing a pain. Scrubbing through forums now to see if I can get any useful info. Interesting. I haven't observed this with it. How much is it delayed? Which DAW? What's your computer?
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Yeah I've read reports that different DAW's react funky with the Beatstep Pro especially Cubase but there are some usermade videos on YouTube showing the fixes to get it working right.cubicle gangster posted:can you use the beatstep as the master clock for your DAW, have it just send instead of receive and then send back? I'm pretty sure it can be a master for your DAW if not natively, at least with a MIDI-USB cable. I.E. Beatstep Pro out -> MIDI to USB cable -> DAW slaved to that clock input.
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Played around with settings and stuff. I've been using Reaper 4.78, but in Reaper 5 the delay is either non-existent or tiny. I've been jumping between to see if there's a setting in my 4.78 installation that might be the issue. So far it seems like I might just need to upgrade (even though there's nothing in the changelog about this kind of thing). Trying to use BSP as master exacerbates the problem, but I'm not used to this stuff, so. e: I'm on Windows 8.1, all the software is x64. Don't have a ms time for the delay since I'm looking at MIDI events, but it'll be a little less than 1/64th note late at 100BPM. Enough to be noticeable. coolskull fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 22:12
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Sounds like a problem with Reaper 4.78 then? Is Reaper 5 not stable enough to use or something? There is very often some kind of compensation setting either for MIDI clock globally or for individual tracks, designed to be used in this kind of scenario, but I don't know where it might be in Reaper if it exists.
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Aug 20, 2015 23:02
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My license runs out at v4 so I've got to drop another 60 bucks to renew. Hesitant to do that yet if it's not totally necessary. I'll keep poking around.
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Aug 20, 2015 23:23
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Uh, can any of you guys recommend a synth tech or repair shop in Los Angeles that's not Advanced Musical Electronics? Some of the keys on my Virus KC don't seem to be working.
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Speaking of DAW I feel really comfortable with ProTools First, really respectable limitations for a freebie. The drawbacks are that it's ProTools, it feels like it's got serious bloat taking a good time to start up on an SSD, and that it's not Reaper  (PTF download just under 900 megs compressed, Reaper downloadable executable 9.9 megs. What I mainly do is record *in* and if I can replace the plugs PTF has with equal or better freebies in Reaper that'll make Reaper worth the $60 even more.)
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Reaper is so good, I can't even keep up with the sick features they keep adding because they update so fast. Reaplugs are super powerful but I think people are put off by the barebones guis, they could definitely be payware, especially readelay and reafir/reaeq. Anyone tried that free modular environment vst from imageline? Im definitely trying once I organise my samples and do a fresh daw install for reaper 5.0 (so probably several years from now).
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field balm posted:Anyone tried that free modular environment vst from imageline? On the other hand, it seems fairly stable and seems to have no technical problem with any plugin I have. The flexible parameter routing, of course, is neat. You can probably do complicated things linking a couple of the basic piano rolls together to make it arpeggiate crazy poo poo. It's the only host I've found so far that can do proper low latency through wdm with on board sound chips, which would otherwise have been great on this tablet. I didn't have great ambitions for using it as a vst plugin, so I haven't really tested that. I stopped using it because it didn't fit my niche needs and also because I barely have an interest in crazy routing -I can't really wrap my head around a modular environment. I think it's a good product if you can see the creative possibilities and don't rely too much on plugins that don't have their own preset management. The piano rolls are pretty basic in their setup; don't expect too much song building opportunities from them.
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I have assembled most of the kits I bought. Orgone Accumulator: rad. I didn't have any of the problems you did, Mr. Glass. It's a fascinating oscillator. Fun to have wavetables in the modular. Flafular Kik-8: Ok. I don't love that all of the decay is boooooooooooooom, so I'll have to mod it to get some shorter kicks too. Flafular Hihat-8: Brilliant. Sounds perfect, love it. Flafular Snare-8: doesn't snare. it kind of toms instead. the noise circuit isn't working and I need to debug it.
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Live from the Elysian Fields Realtalk floor (or ground) synthin is the best
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Aug 25, 2015 13:14
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Now this is the kind of drum circle I could get into.
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Aug 25, 2015 13:53
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Eurorack is the pathological degenerated end stage of a developed society. It is the tar pit of synthesis: everything is possible, but nothing is interesting. (I will keep telling this to myself so I won't go over 3 rows of 104 hp that I set for myself as limitations)
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Aug 25, 2015 16:55
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I'm the 90db generator just out of shot.
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Aug 25, 2015 17:44
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Aug 25, 2015 17:49
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I like to think that there are no speakers, that those fuckin' dorks are just staring at their blinking lights while saying to themselves, "yeah... oh yeah... that's nice... *twiddles knob*, ahhhh... yeah...".
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Laserjet 4P posted:Eurorack is the pathological degenerated end stage of a developed society. It is the tar pit of synthesis: everything is possible, but nothing is interesting. 
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Logic X 10.2 is out today and it includes an apparently reskinned Alchemy
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Communism now
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