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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Its definitely hard to really articulate why Fringe was great without major spoilers, but what I can say is it was a show that never held back. It wasn't afraid to dive headfirst into stuff that other shows just hint at or nibble around the edges of.

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SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Season 3 was incredible television, making every other episode set in the alternative reality took balls, complete with alternate intro and little in the way of explanation too.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

SwissCM posted:

Season 3 was incredible television, making every other episode set in the alternative reality took balls, complete with alternate intro and little in the way of explanation too.

So good :allears:

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I also really liked how the flashback episode had a retro version of the theme played on eighties synths.

head58
Apr 1, 2013

The fifth season redeemed itself by weaponizing all the monster-of-the-week episodes from season 1.

Pikehead
Dec 3, 2006

Looking for WMDs, PM if you have A+ grade stuff
Fun Shoe

sticklefifer posted:

When it first came out I gave it a shot for about 3-4 episodes and didn't feel like they were doing anything new. After season 2 ended I saw a late season 2 episode, thought it was awesome, and went back to catch up. Later on in the show's run you really realize how much the show rewards the early watchers by making just about every single plot point early on relevant in the late game, something X-Files didn't really pull off. It's X-Files if its arching narrative was cohesive and got a satisfying payoff. There are weaker points obviously, and some dropped plot threads, but I give them a lot of credit for trying new things constantly and never backing down or returning to status quo.

This is me pretty much. Fringe is X-Files where they're not afraid to go batshit insane, yet actually know how to write an arc and move the plot forward. I watched the first episode and stopped watching and thought it was a cheesy episode of the x-files. It was a cheesy episode of the Xfiles, but I kept hearing good things about it, watched the first season when I had nothing else to watch and then got hooked.

They're different shows - X-Files has a mythos and gravity, and Fringe has a truckload of drugs and an actual plan beyond first season.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Fringe also has an episode with Peter Weller that will make you cry like a baby.

Webbeh
Dec 13, 2003

IF THIS IS A 'LOST' THREAD I'M PROBABLY WHINING ABOUT
STABBEY THE MEANY

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Fringe also has an episode with Peter Weller that will make you cry like a baby.

Fringe had a lot of emotional as gently caress episodes.

I also loved that they were able to blend MOTW and season arcs cohesively. It's something I've seen very rarely.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Webbeh posted:

Fringe had a lot of emotional as gently caress episodes.

I also loved that they were able to blend MOTW and season arcs cohesively. It's something I've seen very rarely.

Yes but

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

by exmarx


:allears:

Keyser_Soze
May 5, 2009

Pillbug
David Duchovny is Hank Moody, mouth rapist.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


It seems like they are having more fun than I've ever heard of any group of people having making a tv show.

Shame Robert Patrick isn't coming back, because I did dig Dogget, but everything else is aces!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
x-cops :captainpop:

lol at some random woman involved in an autopsy taking more care than scully. a problem both xfiles and fringe have is the crew just walking into some insane crime scene and never having face masks etc on

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Did anyone mention that X-Files Files is back from hiatus? :dance: First episode he's back with Rhea Butcher, who is objectively amazing, taking about Sanguinarium, and the newest one is also great. I love this podcast so much.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Pikehead posted:

They're different shows - X-Files has a mythos and gravity, and Fringe has a truckload of drugs and an actual plan beyond first season.

Fringe always gets compared to the X-files because the subjects are kind of superficially similar, but I actually think Supernatural (at least for the first 4-5 seasons) is way, way closer to a modern successor.

Pikehead
Dec 3, 2006

Looking for WMDs, PM if you have A+ grade stuff
Fun Shoe

Paradoxish posted:

Fringe always gets compared to the X-files because the subjects are kind of superficially similar, but I actually think Supernatural (at least for the first 4-5 seasons) is way, way closer to a modern successor.

I never ended up watching Supernatural. I heard good things about it but never found the time, and now I just don't have the time.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Fringe is all the science stuff from X-Files and Supernatural is all the well .. supernatural stuff (and humour) from X-Files.

You can definitely tell that both shows have people that worked on X-Files though.

MacDougall
Apr 21, 2008

Definitely Australian

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Season 1's a little uneven and the last season is whatever, but Walter Bishop is one of the best characters in genre TV. He's a goddamn treasure in every episode.

Do you think they named him Walter because of the ability to refer to his counterpart as Walternate or do you think they just realised it as they were going and were like "loving Jackpot"?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

MacDougall posted:

Do you think they named him Walter because of the ability to refer to his counterpart as Walternate or do you think they just realised it as they were going and were like "loving Jackpot"?

Pacey came up with it during an interview in his single greatest contribution to the show.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

MrBling posted:

Fringe is all the science stuff from X-Files and Supernatural is all the well .. supernatural stuff (and humour) from X-Files.

You can definitely tell that both shows have people that worked on X-Files though.

I guess I just meant that Supernatural nails the tone and feel of the X-files pretty hard. Then again, the thing that always stood out to me about X-files (and is standing out even more now that I'm rewatching it as an adult) is how effortlessly self aware the writing is, even when the show is being "serious."

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Paradoxish posted:

I guess I just meant that Supernatural nails the tone and feel of the X-files pretty hard. Then again, the thing that always stood out to me about X-files (and is standing out even more now that I'm rewatching it as an adult) is how effortlessly self aware the writing is, even when the show is being "serious."

Yeah, Supernatural took it one step further by actively making fun of their ridiculous fans.

As dumb as that show is, it is also a lot of fun.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

MrBling posted:

Yeah, Supernatural took it one step further by actively making fun of their ridiculous fans.

As dumb as that show is, it is also a lot of fun.

I actually think Supernatural was legitimately pretty good early on. Not top tier TV, but decent. The most impressive thing about it now is that it's still watchable and entertaining after ten loving seasons.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Supernatural has been on my list for ages but I've never quite gotten around to watching it. I think it's the length of it that puts me off - sure, The X-Files and SG1 were both pretty long series as well, but I started them after they'd finished and I knew I was working towards a definite ending. I'm pretty sure the producers of Supernatural have said they're fully prepared to keep it going for ten more seasons if they're not cancelled first.

Personally, I sometimes wonder if they're trying make it to 12 so they can beat Smallville for episodes, then wind it up.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Wheat Loaf posted:

Supernatural has been on my list for ages but I've never quite gotten around to watching it. I think it's the length of it that puts me off - sure, The X-Files and SG1 were both pretty long series as well, but I started them after they'd finished and I knew I was working towards a definite ending. I'm pretty sure the producers of Supernatural have said they're fully prepared to keep it going for ten more seasons if they're not cancelled first.

Personally, I sometimes wonder if they're trying make it to 12 so they can beat Smallville for episodes, then wind it up.

They have already reached that and have another season coming.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

Paradoxish posted:

I actually think Supernatural was legitimately pretty good early on. Not top tier TV, but decent.

Yeah, its pretty good. Like decent, you know. Not bad. Look, it could be worse.

Okay, it sucks.

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Irish Joe posted:

Yeah, its pretty good. Like decent, you know. Not bad. Look, it could be worse.

Okay, it sucks.

That's almost exactly my thought processes on it when my wife makes me watch it.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I got to the point where I could only watch an episode of Supernatural if I was drunk and then sober me realised my mistake.

Mostly, that other shows are far better if you're pissed than Supernatural.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

The only thing I know about Supernatural is dog cocks

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Wheat Loaf posted:

Supernatural has been on my list for ages but I've never quite gotten around to watching it. I think it's the length of it that puts me off - sure, The X-Files and SG1 were both pretty long series as well, but I started them after they'd finished and I knew I was working towards a definite ending. I'm pretty sure the producers of Supernatural have said they're fully prepared to keep it going for ten more seasons if they're not cancelled first.

Personally, I sometimes wonder if they're trying make it to 12 so they can beat Smallville for episodes, then wind it up.

The actors pretty much want to do it forever, and it's still a ratings juggernaut for CW, so there's no end in sight.

It gets repetitive in the past few years, as they have to keep going back to the brothers drama well for plot and coming up with stakes to raise each season for the arc is getting tougher, but there are still some great moments. It's more like a soap opera now than anything else.

The first few years were very procedural in a good way, laying out the "rules" of the universe in an almost scientific way, and a great mix of MOTW and mytharc episodes. I still enjoy where they just spend an episode hunting a regular ghost. It's become pretty much a show about Heaven, Hell, Demons and Angels but that wasn't at all the focus of the early seasons which were more about ghosts and a larger variety of supernatural monsters.

I never thought of it as being like X-Files before, but now that people mention it, yeah I can totally see it.

corn in the fridge
Jan 15, 2012

by Shine
is fight the future on netflix anywhere?

meatpath
Feb 13, 2003

corn in the fridge posted:

is fight the future on netflix anywhere?

DVD only. You can rent it on Youtube, though.

Pops Mgee
Aug 20, 2009

People all over the world,
Join Hands,
Start the Love Train!

corn in the fridge posted:

is fight the future on netflix anywhere?

It was on prime instant watch last time I checked.

meatpath
Feb 13, 2003

goddamn bee

corn in the fridge
Jan 15, 2012

by Shine
cheers fellas just bought a blueray copy off amazon for like 7 quid 👌👽

meatpath
Feb 13, 2003

Y'all better fund this because I want one so bad.

https://www.threadless.com/designs/believe-47

BlackJosh
Sep 25, 2007

head58 posted:

The fifth season redeemed itself by weaponizing all the monster-of-the-week episodes from season 1.

This was super neat. Agents of SHIELD did something similar with their early first season unrelated MOTW (or I guess more device of the week in a lot of those)

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
Rewatching and back up to season 5. The season 5 plot feels dramatic what with Mulder and Scully losing faith in aliens and all that but it doesn't make much sense at all for them to actually do that. By that point in the series for example they've literally seen Alien Bounty hunters that shape shift.

But now one fake alien and one department of defense guy talking some trash and Mulder loses all faith? It's hard to buy.


e: Also since they're apparently just bringing back dead characters in the new one with the CSM can I lobby for them bringing back X who is a fuckin badass that they killed off way too early?

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Ginette Reno posted:

Rewatching and back up to season 5. The season 5 plot feels dramatic what with Mulder and Scully losing faith in aliens and all that but it doesn't make much sense at all for them to actually do that. By that point in the series for example they've literally seen Alien Bounty hunters that shape shift.

But now one fake alien and one department of defense guy talking some trash and Mulder loses all faith? It's hard to buy.

I'm not quite that far in my rewatch and it's been a long time since I've watched any of this show, but isn't the core of that arc actually that Scully's cancer made Mulder realize that he might be getting people around him killed for something he isn't even 100% sure is the truth? Like, the fake alien was basically just the last straw in the "holy poo poo, what am I doing?" re-evaluation.

Also, there's are several episodes with shapeshifters that aren't aliens, so it's not really unreasonable for either one of them to decide "hey, maybe not aliens after all."

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

Paradoxish posted:

I'm not quite that far in my rewatch and it's been a long time since I've watched any of this show, but isn't the core of that arc actually that Scully's cancer made Mulder realize that he might be getting people around him killed for something he isn't even 100% sure is the truth? Like, the fake alien was basically just the last straw in the "holy poo poo, what am I doing?" re-evaluation.

Also, there's are several episodes with shapeshifters that aren't aliens, so it's not really unreasonable for either one of them to decide "hey, maybe not aliens after all."

No, Mulder got convinced by Kritschgau that the entire Alien plot was intentionally created as a distraction to cover experiments that were really being conducted by the government.

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MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe
I can't remember if it was Season 5 or not, but I distinctly remember Mulder losing his faith at some point when it became potentially clear that all the Alien poo poo he was lapping up as just some Mundane Human poo poo that was being leaked as Alien poo poo.

Efb, and hard

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