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Enforka posted:I traded Benjamin away to move up to a top 3 pick in the first round five days ago. We're a two keeper league. Nobody said anything, as they generally don't for most of the trades that go through. The commissioner even put Benjamin up on the draft board as a keeper for the other guy. Now the guy I am trading him to says the trade should be cancelled because it was never voted on and people did not have the time to see it. We are two days away from the keeper deadline. Yes, it's bullshit. The trade went through, gently caress him.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Yes, it's bullshit. The trade went through, gently caress him. Dandy Kaiser posted:hth qtiyd What if it was the opposite? What if it was in principle and hadn't been executed? Would the original Benjamin owner be able to pound the table and insist the trade was done? It's the same deal.
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You can back out of any trade you want if it isn't processed. If it's in the voting stage, then hope the other owners are 3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Tyrod Taylor is interesting. I know he didn't amount to much in BAL, but he will be the Bills starting QB methinks.
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Spoeank posted:What if it was the opposite? What if it was in principle and hadn't been executed? Would the original Benjamin owner be able to pound the table and insist the trade was done? It's the same deal. No deal is done until it's accepted by both teams on the league page, a handshake deal is exactly that and if a guy gets hurt 5 seconds after you say you're going to do it but you haven't actually physically agreed to a trade, any owner with any sort of decency wouldn't force you to make it anyway.
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Dandy Kaiser posted:No deal is done until it's accepted by both teams on the league page, a handshake deal is exactly that and if a guy gets hurt 5 seconds after you say you're going to do it but you haven't actually physically agreed to a trade, any owner with any sort of decency wouldn't force you to make it anyway. And any owner with decency wouldn't demand it be reversed when it had been processed (he mentioned Benjamin had been moved to the other player's keeper list)
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Spoeank posted:What if it was the opposite? What if it was in principle and hadn't been executed? Would the original Benjamin owner be able to pound the table and insist the trade was done? It's the same deal. As I see it the trade is done when someone other than the parties involved are required to change it. In this case the commissioner made the change to the draft board.
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Spoeank posted:And any owner with decency wouldn't demand it be reversed when it had been processed (he mentioned Benjamin had been moved to the other player's keeper list) There's a difference between making a trade, having it go through, then a guy gets hurt a week later and telling a guy in person/via message that you intend to trade a guy, having him get hurt before a formal offer is made, and then rescinding the offer. vvv e: agreed? Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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It's all bullshit. It's the new Kelvin Benjamin owner's problem. Full stop. End of story. E: ^^^ I thought we were saying the same thing but I wasn't sure Spoeank fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 02:59
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The real lessons here a) don't draft so fuckin' early b) don't have a ridicous keeper deadline
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Enforka posted:I traded Benjamin away to move up to a top 3 pick in the first round five days ago. We're a two keeper league. Nobody said anything, as they generally don't for most of the trades that go through. The commissioner even put Benjamin up on the draft board as a keeper for the other guy. Now the guy I am trading him to says the trade should be cancelled because it was never voted on and people did not have the time to see it. We are two days away from the keeper deadline. It's bullshit Also who did you get in this trade?
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Drafting early actually owns if none of your high picks get injured.
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Metapod posted:It's bullshit
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Enforka posted:I traded Benjamin away to move up to a top 3 pick in the first round five days ago. We're a two keeper league. Nobody said anything, as they generally don't for most of the trades that go through. The commissioner even put Benjamin up on the draft board as a keeper for the other guy. Now the guy I am trading him to says the trade should be cancelled because it was never voted on and people did not have the time to see it. We are two days away from the keeper deadline. This poo poo happens - its part of fantasy football. I traded away Jeremy Hill as part of a big player swap three days before he ran for 154 yards and 2 tds against Jax. Sucks but thats life.
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I traded Ahmad Bradshaw for Rolando McClain last year the day he went off then traded back for him in a bigger deal the few days before he broke his leg 
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Haha that new Benjamin owner was laughing about how he put one over on you just hours before Benjamin got hurt.
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My team:quote:QB: Tannehill RB - DeAngelo Williams RB - Fred Jackson RB - Ronnie Hillman WR - Colston WR - Charles Johnson WR - John Brown WR - Michael Floyd WR - Davante Adams WR - Kenny Stills WR - Stevie Johnson WR - Funchess WR - Perriman TE - Josh Hill TE - Seferarian-Jenkins DEF - Detroit Should I worry about any of those guys? I'd have to drop someone.
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Owners in fantasy football are emulating NFL team owners. When an NFL team owner makes a trade, the contracts are signed, it's done. Dude could break his leg getting off the airplane and it's the receiving team's problem. When a team signs a contract (equivalent to keepers), it's done. The terms of the contract are there; the team can drop him, but any guaranteed money is gone. This is of course why the NFL has an injured reserve. The Panthers may be hosed due to Benjamin missing this season, but at least they'll be able to IR him and not have him hit their salary cap too hard, or take up a spot on the roster. So if your fantasy league has rules, they should be enforced the same way. If your league is set up poorly, then that's something to discuss at a time when there isn't one owner who is clearly going to gain an immediate advantage (or disadvantage) as a direct result of changing a rule; but in the long run, you gotta have these conversations and hash it out and make sure everyone agrees to the rules... and then enforce them. You should have an IR, you should have more than one keeper (because jesus, wasting your one precious keeper slot on a player who gets hurt sucks), you should make it clear that a trade is complete when both parties have entered into it via the software... or it's complete when the software processes it... or whatever. Getting hosed after a trade is, really, no different than getting hosed when your first-round draft pick gets hurt/gets suspended for a year/retires. I don't see too many people asking to have their draft backed out because their first-rounder died. Why should they get a trade reversed? Just because it'd be technically easier? That's irrelevant to whether or not it's fair.
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ZIGfried posted:Haha that new Benjamin owner was laughing about how he put one over on you just hours before Benjamin got hurt.
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Does anyone play in a league with a FA budget / bidding process? A person in my money league keeps bringing it up any chance he gets and as interesting as it sounds, I just can't get behind ANOTHER layer of strategy to whom I want to pick up on the FA wire. (This is also the person from last year who benched all of his players WK 1 to lock up the 1 waiver, grabbed Josh Gordon, then promptly missed the playoffs because he didn't have the point total in a tie breaker for last spot)
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LmaoTheKid posted:
Is he purposely trying to get him hurt? I understand he is forced to play him but it's pretty hosed up. Stand up to the loving owner, not send Griffen to the wolves.
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OxySnake posted:Does anyone play in a league with a FA budget / bidding process? FAAB is the One True Waiver system and I absolutely love it.
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Yea it's really cool. It gives everyone a fair chance at players and brings really interesting strategy questions into play.
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OxySnake posted:(This is also the person from last year who benched all of his players WK 1 to lock up the 1 waiver, grabbed Josh Gordon, then promptly missed the playoffs because he didn't have the point total in a tie breaker for last spot) He sounds cool
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89 posted:My team: You don't need Bradford. Get John Brown or Charles Johnson. Or Stevie Johnson. He's gonna bounce back in a big way.
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89 posted:My team: Depending on how deep your bench is, John Brown, Hillman, and Funchess are worth stashing.
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Drop Bradford for Stevie or Funchess. In my ten man, I'm rostering Bradford as my QB1 and backing him with up Bridgewater, who is also a last round potential keeper. I wouldn't worry about backing up Tannehill.OxySnake posted:(This is also the person from last year who benched all of his players WK 1 to lock up the 1 waiver, grabbed Josh Gordon, then promptly missed the playoffs because he didn't have the point total in a tie breaker for last spot) That...is a very special strategy, ahahaha. Even if Gordon ended up the playoff savior like many of us thought he'd be, that's still loving dumb.
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Man, only thing is...I'm pretty huge on Bradford. I know the whole injury stuff and obviously I'm an Eagles fan. But, just check this out:quote:Chip Kelly has come under constant critiquing this offseason. Nick Foles was regularly a top 3 fantasy QB while healthy under Chip Kelly and would have games that would single handedly win you the entire fantasy matchup. A healthy Bradford could be loving scary in this offense.
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Funchess is gonna be like a WR3 even with Kelvin out why are you all so excited. Do you not remember all the bullshit who makes those catches catches that Kelvin made to boost his value? Funchess is not as good as Kelvin, so those catches aren't made.
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BeerSheets 2015-08-21
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Does anyone know anything about NFL.com keeper rules? I took over for a team this year but my keepers are literal dogshit compared to everyone else. My best player is Alshon. Would it give me an extra pick at the beginning or the end of the draft if I didn't pick a keeper? Or would it just select a player for me...
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Brandon Coleman looks to be setting himself up as the Saint's WR3, so if you've been picking up or targeting Nick Toon, keep an eye on the situation. He is a Marques Colsten or Brandin Cooks injury away from getting a ton of targets from Drew Brees.
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I'm worried that I hear whispers that Bradford has barely taken a step in live drills abd looks like a statue. Paired with the fact he won't be playing any preseason games and I have to wonder if he's as ready as Chip wants people to believe. I guess the same could be said about Murray missing pretty significant practice time and preseason games under the guise "we're just limiting his touches after a heavy workload"
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I am in a league with .25 pts per completion 6 patd and 1 ppr. Does the qb change make a big enough difference to warrant using something other than the 10 team 1 ppr sheet? I have pick 6 and I am thinking of reaching for a qb with my second round pick.
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Felter Chesthard posted:I am in a league with .25 pts per completion 6 patd and 1 ppr. Does the qb change make a big enough difference to warrant using something other than the 10 team 1 ppr sheet? I have pick 6 and I am thinking of reaching for a qb with my second round pick. If there draft luck first round
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Some interesting stats re: Brandon Coleman. Now to figure out how much of my FAAB to throw at him (dynasty). https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news...aign=dlvr.it_fi
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