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Killed 2 Omahas, a Phoenix and a South Carolina. Still lost. :pubbies: Edit: Perick posted:Reapplied as Perick for hot seamn action. Welcome aboard thailor!
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Iowa.txt And I dont care. I will abuse this till the end of time because gently caress you HE.
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Aug 21, 2015 23:01
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DurosKlav posted:Iowa.txt This insane. The way battleships are meant to battleship. I want an Iowa.
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Aug 21, 2015 23:05
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Did you not watch Battleship, or at least that clip? That ship was obviously firing HE. HE kills aliens.
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Aug 21, 2015 23:10
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Just lost a battle with a Mogami in my Iowa at 6km and under because dispersion is ridiculous. 4 salvos aimed at the waterline right into his citadels and not a single god drat citadel. They all fly high and just over pen, 11 god drat hits. I wish I could do a video of it or gif at least. I have the replay but I dont know how to do that poo poo. DurosKlav fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 23:12
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Just upload the replay to dropbox or somewhere. It's a lot easier than making a video.
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Tahirovic posted:I feel it's not just the fires, HE base damage is too high compared to AP for cruisers too. HE is guaranteed damage while AP actually needs to penetrate, there should be more skill involved there. There are many battleships that take negligible to zero damage from cruiser AP. If you take out the HE option cruisers are just useless against battleships. I don't think that could possibly make the game more fun, unless you give cruisers enough penetration to citadel hit battleships (which certainly won't happen, and if it did people in this thread would be complaining about dying to citadel hits from overpowered cruiser AP). You probably weren't playing boats at the time, but they already tried a similar configuration in the first few weeks of CBT. It was not worth playing. And incidentally, where you hit the enemy ship does matter even with HE. It's just less of a difference.
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grrarg posted:Just upload the replay to dropbox or somewhere. It's a lot easier than making a video. The replay. https://www.dropbox.com/s/mkn079osbwawen0/20150821_170031_PASB018-Iowa-1944_20_NE_two_brothers.wowsreplay?dl=0 Yes I know I was alone. That was not the reason I died though. I died because I had to spend far more time than I should have on a single ship because of how ridiculous dispersion is. He never would have gotten more than 1 torpedo salvo off if the game had not screwed me to hell and back. Hell I dont think he should have lived long enough for 1 torpedo salvo had I not gotten screwed. DurosKlav fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Aug 22, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 23:58
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that just happened to me in a kongo v kuma, except I at least managed to not die to the laziest torp drop ever as he limped into broadside by ramming his teammate in a loius (because the kuma was a shitlord dumping torps behind him) and making his wrecked hull eat the entire spread. 
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Aug 22, 2015 00:01
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DurosKlav posted:The replay.
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I'm sorry but I completely disagree. My shots were right on the money but dispersion spread them out everywhere but where I was aiming.
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Hey wargaming, how about some x3 or x5 weekend events instead of a x2, which isn't much of a bonus given the regular is x1.5...
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Aug 22, 2015 00:39
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Nerf HE and welcome the glorious ramming meta!
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Hazdoc posted:You're not getting hit by torps, and the DD is contributing absolutely nothing, so as far as anyone is concerned the DD is a nonfactor. Therefore, he is countered simply by your presence. He'd rather be hitting with his torps and actually doing damage. If he doesn't aim his torps at you, you'll likely detect them early and your BBs will be more than capable of getting safe before they arrive. And if a CV or friendly DD lights up the hostile, your laser accurate HE rounds will give that DD a very bad day. There is a reason why I bitch at my team in every game to focus down CAs... because if they're gone, I can make the battleships start to disappear. Hazdoc posted:Ok, since my analogies don't seem to work, how about this? Your comparison breaks down because this game is currently mega flawed. There are plenty of situations where the RSP nature of this game does not work at all. For example, situations where DD's and their torps are not all that scary. I'm not worried about that Kagero if my teams Midway perma parks a fighter on top of them. There is nothing funnier in my IJN BB's than realizing a DD is behind me and then just driving away from him while fighting other ships - he only has 8, maybe 10knts on me and it will be very, very hard for him to ever torp me. Again, tier issues come into play. I do fear facing an Iowa alone in my Ibuki because he can citadel me from literally any angle and I don't have my broken Mogami 155's anymore. I'm not sure the game is really setup in a RSP model right now and I'm not sure forcing it to be more of one is the right call. If anything, I'd rather see more of a WoT model. TDs, heavies and mediums have differences in speed, armor, health, rate of fire, alpha, penetration, etc, but at the end of the day, the % difference tends to be a lot less than in WoWs. cheese fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Aug 22, 2015 |
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I'm surprised at how much better I've gotten with the japanese DDs after playing through the first few US ones. I actually learned how to set up ambushes and to lurk a bit more. And, oddly enough, I have a cruiser that has decent AA and I've only played against an enemy carrier once. Why this couldnt have happened when I didnt have AA I dont know 
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The battleships that are competent enough to be worth screening aren't usually likely to be hit by long range torpedoes. I have no idea how you'd fix that, but torpedoes as largely a dedicated anti lovely player mechanism is kind of dumb.
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Is the weekend bonus really x2 for our first win instead of x1.5? Haha holy poo poo Wargaming.James Garfield posted:The battleships that are competent enough to be worth screening aren't usually likely to be hit by long range torpedoes. I have no idea how you'd fix that, but torpedoes as largely a dedicated anti lovely player mechanism is kind of dumb. 
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Aug 22, 2015 01:18
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haha, i really like how good tip for playing DDs is to simply 
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cheese posted:Is the weekend bonus really x2 for our first win instead of x1.5? Haha holy poo poo Wargaming.
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I already do it when I run into warbeasty. He has a 36.75 win % with 89% of his games played in a carrier. Also nearly sub 1000 xp average.
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grrarg posted:The drama and teamkilling will be hilarious. You can already send people into a frothing at the mouth rage by quoting their player stats from the website. I had a few games with this lovely fellow. He also will NEVER shut up in chat. EDIT: DurosKlav posted:I already do it when I run into warbeasty. He has a 36.75 win % with 89% of his games played in a carrier. Also nearly sub 1000 xp average. wdarkk fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Aug 22, 2015 |
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Aug 22, 2015 02:28
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wdarkk posted:I had a few games with this lovely fellow. It's weird. I have roughly the same damage-per-battle but I get noticeably less EXP. Is it because I don't have premium/am still lower Tier?
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cheese posted:Is the weekend bonus really x2 for our first win instead of x1.5? Haha holy poo poo Wargaming. WG are trying their best to condition tanks players to expect less right out the gate but so far for me XP means absolutely nothing even on a standard account whereas I'm constantly credit starved.
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Trying to join SEAMN but it says it is unavailable until August 23  My username ingame is Jerjare if anyone can sign me up.
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So, are the XVM people actually working on a WoWS mod? If not, they should get on it because it could be really useful for targetting/support purposes.
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UV_Catastrophe posted:So, are the XVM people actually working on a WoWS mod? I would love to have minimap overlays that show my AA and secondary range.
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The Life and Death of a DD, by me. Sometimes its the best of times    :Sometimes its the worst of times     All you can do is try, try, try.    So, fake poetry aside, here's the replays the above came from, if anyone wants to see a bit of DD sneak & ambush going on: http://www.mreboy.com/wot/20150821_155259_PASD027-Wickes-1918_13_OC_new_dawn.wowsreplay http://www.mreboy.com/wot/20150821_160910_PASD027-Wickes-1918_17_NA_fault_line.wowsreplay First round, I did my best to sneak around in the mid area islands before going after the Wyoming. As I went after the Kongo, I'm pretty sure he did spot me at some point - my captain was on transfer retrain at the time so 6th Sense wasn't working. Remember folks, straight lines = death. Second round, I head towards C. I figured going down the E-W channel at C was suicide, so I duck around to avoid being spotted. Then the Ishizuchi gets spotted. Great, a fairly optimal target ! The last round finished my Capt retrain, so I do have 6th Sense going - not spotted !. Welp, I apparently was the one that got snuck up on - by the 3 other enemy team BBs and company. Being 3km from a Kongo is a bad thing. So I do a 180 and haul rear end out as best I can, dumping torpedoes left and right as I go. Managed to hit the Kongo twice and got the Ishizuchi for most of his HP before going down. I finished the round with 12 torpedo hits and completed 2 torpedo related dailies in 2 missions (these rounds were sequential) and the pubs went on to win.
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Panfilo posted:Trying to join SEAMN but it says it is unavailable until August 23 Huh? I just added wdarkk just now in fact. Did you just leave a clan? demonR6 fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Aug 22, 2015 |
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Aug 22, 2015 02:52
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wdarkk posted:I had a few games with this lovely fellow. I don't understand some people. That player went all the way up the tiers even though he does better (as in more damage per game) in his Zuiho than his tier 10. Also you don't need to bring up stats to make people angry, half of them will get loving livid if you give them advice in a non-insulting way. I've received angry private messages after game for things like "when you show your broadside it makes your ship vulnerable to citadel hits, try pointing your Phoenix straight at the enemy and wiggling."
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demonR6 posted:Huh? I just added wdarkk just now in fact. Did you just leave a clan? Yeah. The 'Apply' button is greyed out and it says "Clan actions are blocked until 8/23/15" Panfilo fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Aug 22, 2015 |
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James Garfield posted:I don't understand some people. That player went all the way up the tiers even though he does better (as in more damage per game) in his Zuiho than his tier 10. Also, this article claims that there's a way to launch torps individually by holding down the alt key. Really?
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Panfilo posted:Yeah. The 'Apply' button is greyed out and it says "Clan actions are blocked until 8/23/15" Dunno man I just added another player not ten minutes ago. I sent you an invite, see what that does.
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Aug 22, 2015 03:26
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Added.. go forth and prosper young seaman. And don't forget to join the Teamspeak server you loving savages.
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demonR6 posted:Dunno man I just added another player not ten minutes ago. I sent you an invite, see what that does. Ahem. https://na.wargaming.net/support/Knowledgebase/Article/View/219/18/why-cant-i-join-a-clan Wargaming support posted:A few reasons why you may not be able to join a clan.
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cheese posted:If I sit there and do my "role" of countering DD's by twiddling my thumbs and waiting for them to gently caress up and get shot by me, I'm doing nothing. But just because I'm sitting there waiting to counter the DD doesn't mean his torps arnt doing anything. I was screening for an Iowa and an Amagi in my Ibuki earlier, knowing that an enemy Kagero was there. I spotted and dodges his torps, typed in chat and then watched as the Iowa drove into 4 of them. I didn't counter a loving thing. You counter something by stopping it from happening and I'm not really sure screening BB's is all that effective right now. I'm sure you can manage to be aware of incoming torps and shoot your guns at the same time, right? Then you're not "sitting there twiddling your thumbs". Don't act like you can't do anything about destroyers, that's insane. And your teammates being bad doesn't break my analogy in the slightest. Bad players will be bad, and there's nothing you can do about it. That doesn't make you any less effective at dodging DD torpedoes and keeping them honest and away from the BBs. I can't help if your experience with other players means you think you can't do anything about DDs, but my experience as a DD player definitely lets me know that CAs can be effective and defend allies from me. If my torpedoes aren't landing, then I'm contributing nothing, while you can do DPS and screen bombers off your allied ships. You are still a contribution to your team, and the DD is not, meaning you've got a man advantage. You worry about facing an Iowa in your cruiser... which is to be expected. This is my point, and I keep trying to make it. This shouldn't be fixed, because it is supposed to happen (well, the getting killed by the BB part, not the part where the Iowa takes no damage, lol bugs). Try to torpedo him, or get help from allies. If its just you two left, well, sucks to be you. There's a lot harder counters in this game than BB > CA.
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So I played this game like a champ in CBT, grinding my way to Des Moines and when open beta came out, I generally couldn't be bothered. (That and Witcher 3 ate up my video game time.) It seems like my Atlanta was taken back and the doubloons refunded. I'm liking the look of the Atago? Is that worth it?
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MoraleHazard posted:So I played this game like a champ in CBT, grinding my way to Des Moines and when open beta came out, I generally couldn't be bothered. (That and Witcher 3 ate up my video game time.) It seems like my Atlanta was taken back and the doubloons refunded. I'm liking the look of the Atago? Is that worth it? Really I'd make your decision based on what you want to do with your premium. I got the Atago because I figured I'd want to retrain Japanese captains. Also supposedly the Des Moines is awful in some unspecified way that gives it a truly atrocious win ratio.  It's even worse than WARBEASTY. The prevailing theory seems to be that at tier 10 alpha>dpm.
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Ah, the Murmask. Gotta love it.   Well, that and the fact all the cruisers i came across seemed to cherish trying to broadside me.
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wdarkk posted:Also, this article claims that there's a way to launch torps individually by holding down the alt key. Really? Tried it, doesn't work. Guessing that was only in closed beta.
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