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Don Lapre posted:The dinky cooler and single 8pin power is gonna limit you though. If you want air cooled fury get a fury If they unlock at all to Fury/Fury X then MSI and ASUS will likely have custom PCB versions for people who want to gamble on a 150$ cheaper Fury/Fury X.
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Aug 21, 2015 20:55
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Don Lapre posted:If you are using Nvidia SLI stay away from Windows 10. its broken. That's kind of what I figured myself. Bumped up from 1468 to 1503 and my score went down  Womp womp. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/8287269
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Aug 21, 2015 20:55
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Don Lapre posted:I wonder if it will be reference only.
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Aug 21, 2015 20:56
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Don Lapre posted:If you are using Nvidia SLI stay away from Windows 10. its broken. Do you mind showing your work on this? I would do it myself, but phone.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:02
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:AMD stops doing that sort of thing about 3-6 months after a card's release. Yield issue where they don't know where the chip is going to end up so they just let em fall where they may? Then once yields are under control they can afford to cut them for the cheaper stuff?
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Aug 21, 2015 21:03
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SlayVus posted:Do you mind showing your work on this? I would do it myself, but phone. A number of games have memory leaks. Battlefield games seem to be the worst offenders. Basically it will eat vram until you get a DX out of memory crash.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:07
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veedubfreak posted:That's kind of what I figured myself. How much does FS1.1 differ from Firestrike. I get 21600 on my 1300mhz titan x's
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Aug 21, 2015 21:08
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veedubfreak posted:Yield issue where they don't know where the chip is going to end up so they just let em fall where they may?
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Aug 21, 2015 21:35
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Don Lapre posted:How much does FS1.1 differ from Firestrike. I get 21600 on my 1300mhz titan x's I think 1.1 is just an update to the test. Managed to hit 21985. Going to test +200/+400  http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/8288024 Welp, looks like 195 is my cap. 200/0 crashes, but 195/400 is clean. Time for a better bios. veedubfreak fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 21:58
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I had this card because my computer had no AGP slot (P2 450mhz with integrated ATI Rage 128 on the mobo iirc). It was poo poo. Well, at least compared to the 3000 version on AGP which ran anything you'd throw at it super smoothly back in the day. I've since wised up on my graphics card buys.
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Aug 21, 2015 22:51
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Marinmo posted:I had this card because my computer had no AGP slot (P2 450mhz with integrated ATI Rage 128 on the mobo iirc). It was poo poo. Well, at least compared to the 3000 version on AGP which ran anything you'd throw at it super smoothly back in the day. I've since wised up on my graphics card buys. dat 16bit color though
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Aug 21, 2015 22:57
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Don Lapre posted:dat 16bit color though 22bit colors were enough to heatshot bitches in Tribes 
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Aug 21, 2015 23:00
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DrDork posted:22bit colors were enough to heatshot bitches in Tribes I remember trying to play vengeance on a 5x00 Nvidia PCI card. That was just slow and horrible. Like it was just one step above bare minimum.
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Aug 21, 2015 23:04
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So if I've upgraded to Windows 10, I guess I should disable SLI until they get some driver or DirectX updates that unfuck things? On the bright side, PhysX gonna scream.
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Aug 21, 2015 23:29
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Subjunctive posted:So if I've upgraded to Windows 10, I guess I should disable SLI until they get some driver or DirectX updates that unfuck things? On the bright side, PhysX gonna scream. Just roll back before you do something stupid like cleaning out old system files to save space. Once you have upgraded you have a key.
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Aug 21, 2015 23:46
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veedubfreak posted:Once you have upgraded you have a key. ProduKey works for getting your win 10 key to wrote it down on a piece of paper. http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html Useful for doing fresh installation from a USB drive.
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Aug 22, 2015 00:08
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ITT: windows 10 support megathread I'm probably going to image all my systems, roll them forward for the free upgrade, and then restore the images until GPU drivers and stuff stabilize.
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Aug 22, 2015 00:09
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veedubfreak posted:Just roll back before you do something stupid like cleaning out old system files to save space. I've got tons of space and a single 980 Ti will still give a decent experience for a month while they figure their poo poo out.
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Aug 22, 2015 00:19
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Paul MaudDib posted:ITT: windows 10 support megathread Is there some free key deadline that people are bothering to upgrade just to downgrade again?
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SlayVus posted:ProduKey works for getting your win 10 key to wrote it down on a piece of paper. Every Windows 10 that was upgraded from windows 7 or 8 has the same product key (for pro, it ends is 36VVT). The upgrade process submits a hardware id to microsoft, that then 'blesses' it for use with windows 10, so you can install as much as you like once you have finished the first upgrade. What constitutes a hardware id MS hasn't said, but likely mainly consists of MB and CPU. DrDork posted:Is there some free key deadline that people are bothering to upgrade just to downgrade again? The free upgrade promotion officially ends July 29th, 2016. MS may choose to extend it, depending on how stabilized windows 10 has gotten.
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Aug 22, 2015 00:22
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EoRaptor posted:The free upgrade promotion officially ends July 29th, 2016. MS may choose to extend it, depending on how stabilized windows 10 has gotten.
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Aug 22, 2015 01:13
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poo poo, I'm going to wait until the last possible moment to upgrade, if I upgrade at all. I'm not pleased by the way Microsoft is trying to get people to have a login with them and other assorted eyebrow-raising practices. And before you ask, if I could, I would, but I can't, because SolidWorks and my CAM software don't work on Linux, even under WINE.
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Aug 22, 2015 02:11
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EoRaptor posted:What constitutes a hardware id MS hasn't said, but likely mainly consists of MB and CPU.
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Aug 22, 2015 02:37
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Mutation posted:Wait, did he say that their Sandy Bridge software processor is only almost as fast as a Voodoo 3 2000? CPU-side rendering really, really sucks, especially since the code from 1999 is, at best, using SSE1.
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Aug 22, 2015 02:57
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This fun little article came out a few days ago: http://arstechnica.co.uk/gaming/2015/08/directx-12-tested-an-early-win-for-amd-and-disappointment-for-nvidia/1/ DX12 made an AMD Radeon R9 290x perform just as well as an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti. Is this just a limitation with NVIDIA's hardware or are they just doing something like translating DX12 calls into DX11? I guess this finally shows just how terrible AMD's DX11 drivers are.
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Aug 22, 2015 06:39
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Nalin posted:This fun little article came out a few days ago: Mentioned earlier, but yeah. Man, if AMD had anyone worth a drat working on their drivers, Kepler would have been an awful time for Nvidia, while AMD rode Maxwell level success.
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Do we know it's actually drivers, or is it architecture, though? Like, GCN was made for mantle, maybe that's why DX11 performance is poo poo?
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Truga posted:Like, GCN was made for mantle, maybe that's why DX11 performance is poo poo? Do you have any more information on this? I'd love to learn more about how Mantle influenced GCN's design.
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Aug 22, 2015 13:15
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DX12 is also supposed to incorporate Mantle like elements in its design, allowing lower level hardware abstraction
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Yes, that's basically the whole point of DX12, I think!
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Subjunctive posted:Do you have any more information on this? I'd love to learn more about how Mantle influenced GCN's design. E: misunderstood Iirc mantle was influenced by gcn not the other way around
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Truga posted:Do we know it's actually drivers, or is it architecture, though? All that benchmark really shows is what everybody already knew: AMD's DX11 drivers are poo poo and Nvidia puts a lot of effort into optimized app-specific driver paths (especially anything benchmark related). Even on the AMD side, their driver writers can write a DX11 path that beats Mantle if they want to. Explicit APIs like Vulkan and DX12 are good in that they provide a mostly level field between hardware manufacturers since it gives developers direct control over things the driver used to have to manage. The downside is that it's going to be really hard to optimize things to the same extent as a team of Nvidia smarty-man driver programmers.
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EoRaptor posted:Every Windows 10 that was upgraded from windows 7 or 8 has the same product key (for pro, it ends is 36VVT). The upgrade process submits a hardware id to microsoft, that then 'blesses' it for use with windows 10, so you can install as much as you like once you have finished the first upgrade. So how do I keep my copy of Win10 if I'm getting a new MB/CPU/RAM? Do i have to install Win8.1 and upgrade again?
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LooKMaN posted:So how do I keep my copy of Win10 if I'm getting a new MB/CPU/RAM? Do i have to install Win8.1 and upgrade again? Sounds about right.
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LooKMaN posted:So how do I keep my copy of Win10 if I'm getting a new MB/CPU/RAM? Do i have to install Win8.1 and upgrade again? As far as we know yes, no idea what happens a year from now unless they make win10 free forever.
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You can buy copies of windows 10 in shops (or just buy a key online once you install it). Technically, a new motherboard is a new PC as far as MIcrosoft is concerned, so you should be buying a new copy of windows to go with it. The free offer is only to upgrade existing, activated copies of windows 7/8 to get as many people onto windows 10 as possible.
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It really isn't difficult. Within the year they give you to upgrade, UPGRADE an eligible OS to Windows 10. If you swap out components, like you crazy loving people thinking MB/CPU/RAM isn't a new computer, install your OS (7, 8.0, 8.1) and upgrade.
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Dead Goon posted:If you swap out components, like you crazy loving people thinking MB/CPU/RAM isn't a new computer, install your OS (7, 8.0, 8.1) and upgrade.
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Except nearly everyone buys OEM licenses where that statement does not apply. That restriction is why it costs less.
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