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Roy: Sep 24, 2007

# ? Aug 23, 2015 15:02

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 11:42

suck my woke dick: Oct 10, 2012; I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Roy posted:

People just associate it with poverty. The reason why some people dislike it is the same reason why white people in general don't wear gang colours or addidas tracksuits.

Outside of Russia you mean.

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Roy posted:

owns

# ? Aug 23, 2015 15:02

a pipe smoking dog: Jan 25, 2010; "haha, dogs can't smoke!"

MikeJF posted:

Things like this always seemed confusing to me, just because if they're that expensive (simply due to location), you'd think they could spring for a bit of a refurbish, spruce it up a little.

As it's listed there is a limit on how much you can actually change the building. A lot of listed building in britain crumble and collapse because repairing it without changing the structure somehow is often prohibitively expensive.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 15:58

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

Show of hands: how many people think "brutalist" has to do with "brutal"?

"English architects Peter and Alison Smithson coined the term Brutalist or Brutalism. The label was inspired by the French �b�ton brut� (raw concrete), a phrase used by architectural icon Le Corbusier to describe his favorite building material."

Couldnt you use sealed (with some magic substance) concrete and avoid the water problem? I guess its not "raw" anymore, but whatever.

Soon we'll have "compressed-carbon-filaments-ist" architecture and have a new more pernicious round of asbestos-style lung disease! :toot:

# ? Aug 23, 2015 16:25

Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

they're stupid the brutal explanation makes a lot more sense/sounds cooler

# ? Aug 23, 2015 16:54

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

If brutalism was just raw concrete, then why is it always done on buildings built on a "dominate and terrorise" style?

# ? Aug 23, 2015 16:57

Ambrose Burnside: Aug 30, 2007; pensive

If youre working overwhelmingly in concrete, monolithic designs with simple angular geometries are the easiest and most practical way to do things, is mostly it.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 16:59

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

Gorilla Salad posted:

If brutalism was just raw concrete, then why is it always done on buildings built on a "dominate and terrorise" style?

"Brutalist buildings usually incorporate strong geometric angles and are generally made from pre-cast concrete elements that reveal the texture of the wooden forms used in casting."

# ? Aug 23, 2015 17:05

Ka0: Sep 16, 2002; AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE

Brutalism isn't any worse than any other type of architectural style hth.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 17:33

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

FRINGE posted:

"Brutalist buildings usually incorporate strong geometric angles and are generally made from pre-cast concrete elements that reveal the texture of the wooden forms used in casting."

Then where are all the brutalist birdbaths :colbert:

# ? Aug 23, 2015 17:58

Cacator: Aug 6, 2005; You're quite good at turning me on.

Roy posted:

The eyes aren't windows, 3/5.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 18:10

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

Gorilla Salad posted:

Then where are all the brutalist birdbaths

# ? Aug 23, 2015 18:12

Ambrose Burnside: Aug 30, 2007; pensive

Gorilla Salad posted:

Then where are all the brutalist birdbaths

different style of casting. one involves a permanent detailed two-part mould used for thousands of castings, while the others use wooden moulds built from dimensional lumber and plywood as needed for one specific portion of one specific building. you could deffo make crazy intricate brutalist buildings just like with birdbaths, on the assumption you can make rubber moulds the size of an apartment building or w/e

# ? Aug 23, 2015 18:13

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

Ambrose Burnside posted:

on the assumption you can make rubber moulds the size of an apartment building or w/e

Eventually maybe 3d concrete printing magic will get there as well.

Or Diamond Age will hit and we'll all be living in diamond houses. Naw never mind the weird illuminati debeers family would kill everyone first.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 18:18

Facebook Aunt: Oct 4, 2008; wiggle wiggle

FRINGE posted:

Eventually maybe 3d concrete printing magic will get there as well.

Or Diamond Age will hit and we'll all be living in diamond houses. Naw never mind the weird illuminati debeers family would kill everyone first.

Cubic zirconium houses.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 18:23

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

Angela Christine posted:

Cubic zirconium houses.

Literal wack rear end crystal prisons?

# ? Aug 23, 2015 18:28

Ambrose Burnside: Aug 30, 2007; pensive

FRINGE posted:

Eventually maybe 3d concrete printing magic will get there as well.

Or Diamond Age will hit and we'll all be living in diamond houses. Naw never mind the weird illuminati debeers family would kill everyone first.

well i mean you can absolutely do really cool things with concrete as it stands, no printer needed, it's just a lot more effort and requires skilled labour that "pour the concrete into the big wood box" doesn't. A rough analogy is comparing rammed earth construction- which overwhelmingly favours brutalist-style designs for the sole reason that ramming the earth is easiest in simple-straight-sided wooden formwork and can be done relatively quickly with pneumatic tamping:

with cob construction, which uses almost the same exact materials but is built up organically without forms, is inherently labour-intensive and difficult to mechanise or expedite, but which is "hella conducive" to working decoration into designs as they're built:

# ? Aug 23, 2015 18:32

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

ghosthorse posted:

Thought maybe that was the 401 in Ontario. Welcome to North America's widest/the world's busiest highway!

Marvel at its 18 lanes of traffic!

Gaze in wonder at its seemingly nonsensical design!

Get stuck on it for hours after regular 40+ car pile-ups (available between Windsor and London on a 200km stretch of ~~road~~ hell during the 90's)!

See it with only one car after they begrudgingly closed it only because a giant propane factory exploded!

Be caught in its endless road widening and resurfacing!

But seriously, getting stuck on the 401 heading through or into Toronto for like 2 hours is something almost every Ontario driver gets to experience at least once.

The 401 is the purest form of driving in Ontario

# ? Aug 23, 2015 18:33

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

Jerry Cotton posted:

Literal wack rear end crystal prisons?

A Glass House maybe? http://www.amazon.com/Glasshouse-Charles-Stross/dp/0441015085

Ambrose Burnside posted:

How did they get that perfect glassy-mirror effect? Or is it water? At first I thought it was some kind of polished-something.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 19:12

Shumagorath: Jun 6, 2001

netally posted:

Here's the latest monstrosity from London:

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/19/take-a-dip-35-metres-up-in-londons-sky-pool#img-1

OK, it's a cool idea in theory, but having an outdoor pool in the UK is utterly ridiculous. It'll be completely packed about 2 weeks of the year when we actually get summer weather, and abandoned most of the year. The apartment blocks themselves just look ugly, a bit like student accommodation, so you're paying a huge amount just for this novelty pool.

I saw a three-phase development with an outdoor pool in loving OTTAWA. Wish I'd seen it as the first part of the showing so I could have left 20min earlier.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 19:12

Lucy Heartfilia: May 31, 2012

FRINGE posted:

A Glass House maybe? http://www.amazon.com/Glasshouse-Charles-Stross/dp/0441015085

How did they get that perfect glassy-mirror effect? Or is it water? At first I thought it was some kind of polished-something.

It's a pool.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 19:17

Mescal: Jul 23, 2005

Lucy Heartfilia posted:

It's a pool.

A pool? At a dentist's office?

# ? Aug 23, 2015 19:27

The Skeleton King: Jul 16, 2011; Right now undead are at the top of my shit list. Undead are complete fuckers. Those geists are fuckers. Necromancers are fuckers. Necrosavants are big time fuckers. Skeletons aren't too bad except when they bleed everyone in the company. Zombos are at least not too bad.

Brutalism can make some really cool structures. It usually looks great when used to make simple, powerful shapes, and often goes very well when mixed with trees and vegetation. The idea is to create an image of power and simplicity, shapes that look clean and unpretentious. The lovely brutalist buildings are the ones where they cant figure out how to incorporate windows and poo poo into the design and they end up with a gigantic wall with no features, or one of those hideous le corbusier style buildings. The worst way to do brutalism is to make it too repetitive. There needs to be shapes that break up the monotony or else it will look soulless. Its like any style really; there is a right way and a wrong way to do brutalism. Sadly, many people choose the wrong way and end up with some really ugly poo poo.

If there is any form of architecture that should be ridiculed and hated by everyone, it is that horrible blobitecture poo poo that the UK seems to like so much.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 19:35

Lucy Heartfilia: May 31, 2012

challenge for the thread: find a good blob architecture building

i bet there are none

# ? Aug 23, 2015 19:41

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

Lucy Heartfilia posted:

challenge for the thread: find a good blob architecture building

i bet there are none

I didnt know that was the name of a thing until now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blobitecture

This one seems ok-ish?

# ? Aug 23, 2015 20:13

Roy: Sep 24, 2007

Lucy Heartfilia posted:

challenge for the thread: find a good blob architecture building

i bet there are none

# ? Aug 23, 2015 20:15

the fart question: Mar 21, 2007; College Slice

Roy posted:

loving horrible in real life

# ? Aug 23, 2015 20:23

SEX BURRITO: Jun 30, 2007; Not much fun

gender illusionist posted:

loving horrible in real life

I liked it more in real life. It's not as big and imposing as the pictures make out.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 20:33

Roy: Sep 24, 2007

gender illusionist posted:

loving horrible in real life

Yeah, Birmingham isn't the greatest.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 21:35

The Skeleton King: Jul 16, 2011; Right now undead are at the top of my shit list. Undead are complete fuckers. Those geists are fuckers. Necromancers are fuckers. Necrosavants are big time fuckers. Skeletons aren't too bad except when they bleed everyone in the company. Zombos are at least not too bad.

Always wanted to walk through an alien marshmallow vomiting a bridge!

# ? Aug 23, 2015 21:44

Sponge Baathist: Jan 30, 2010; by FactsAreUseless

Roy posted:

this robot building sucks robot dick

# ? Aug 23, 2015 22:34

I'm Crap: Aug 15, 2001

The Skeleton King posted:

Brutalism can make some really cool structures. It usually looks great when used to make simple, powerful shapes, and often goes very well when mixed with trees and vegetation. The idea is to create an image of power and simplicity, shapes that look clean and unpretentious. The lovely brutalist buildings are the ones where they cant figure out how to incorporate windows and poo poo into the design and they end up with a gigantic wall with no features, or one of those hideous le corbusier style buildings. The worst way to do brutalism is to make it too repetitive. There needs to be shapes that break up the monotony or else it will look soulless. Its like any style really; there is a right way and a wrong way to do brutalism. Sadly, many people choose the wrong way and end up with some really ugly poo poo.

no, it makes really cool black and white photos on the internet. it makes really unbelievably poo poo buildings in 100% of cases. every single one leaks, every single one is full of mould, every single one has concrete rot, almost all have incompetently designed, maze-like, dingy and human-unfriendly interiors. i'm fairly sure the only people who like them grew up in dreadful clapboard low-rise suburbs and mistakenly regard inept concrete monstrosities as a part of exotic urbanism. either that or they're just meme-spouting parrot cunts like i said. i consider this highly likely as they've all only started vocalising their preference for this one specific demonstrably failed architectural style in the last two years, coincidentally at the same time that everybody else did.

# ? Aug 23, 2015 22:42

Roy: Sep 24, 2007

I'm Crap posted:

it makes really unbelievably poo poo buildings in 100% of cases. every single one leaks, every single one is full of mould, every single one has concrete rot, almost all have incompetently designed, maze-like, dingy and human-unfriendly interiors.

so basically the same as all the classical brick heaps people fawn over like new york bronstones, german mietserkasernen or parisian apartment buildings

# ? Aug 23, 2015 22:45

The Skeleton King: Jul 16, 2011; Right now undead are at the top of my shit list. Undead are complete fuckers. Those geists are fuckers. Necromancers are fuckers. Necrosavants are big time fuckers. Skeletons aren't too bad except when they bleed everyone in the company. Zombos are at least not too bad.

I'm Crap posted:

no, it makes really cool black and white photos on the internet. it makes really unbelievably poo poo buildings in 100% of cases. every single one leaks, every single one is full of mould, every single one has concrete rot, almost all have incompetently designed, maze-like, dingy and human-unfriendly interiors. i'm fairly sure the only people who like them grew up in dreadful clapboard low-rise suburbs and mistakenly regard inept concrete monstrosities as a part of exotic urbanism. either that or they're just meme-spouting parrot cunts like i said. i consider this highly likely as they've all only started vocalising their preference for this one specific demonstrably failed architectural style in the last two years, coincidentally at the same time that everybody else did.

So, what kind of architecture is good?

# ? Aug 24, 2015 00:52